http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Director_Michael_Bay_Says_The_Rock_Needs_to_Grow_Up_and_Stop_Wrestling.html
He has a point. Rock needs to decide which he wants to do- wrestle, or act. Pick one, and stick with it.
I hope he just stays of WWE TV for good and goes back to doing crappy-but-profitable movies. I'm beyond sick to death of his tired, worn-out late-90's/early-2000's mad-libs promos and mediocre in-ring work when we could be seeing younger talent being pushed instead of a part-time novelty act.
Hogan never learned to just bow out gracefully and apparently The Rock can't either. Just go the fuck away, Dwayne and take your tired schtick with you.
Hey now, let's not say something we can't take back. Rock's return was disappointing, but a disappointing Rock is still better than 90% of the roster. That being said, if he's tearing muscles off his bones, he shouldn't be wrestling anymore, and he certainly shouldn't be wrestling Brock Lesnar. So I agree, he should go enjoy his movie career and move on.
Not sure I agree with the tone of the comment, but I do agree with the spirit of it. While they haven't got *all* of the mileage out of him that they probably could, they've got the best of it for sure.
ReplyDeleteAnything else is just going to be icing at best or disappointing at worst, so if it might jeopardize his day job, he should probably just focus on movies until the point when that career peters out -- he can always come back to wrestling then.
You know I could say something about the irony of Michael Bay telling someone to grow up, but rather I'm just going to point out the fun coincidence of Michael Bay directing a movie starring a guy whose name is shared with the only good movie Michael Bay has done.
ReplyDeleteWhen Michael Bay makes a watchable movie I might just take him seriously.
ReplyDeleteThis may be the most overblown thing I've seen today. I'm no Michael Bay fan but when I first read that quote, I assumed he was joking, and was shocked to see wrestling site after wrestling site taking it very seriously.
ReplyDeleteBoy, I do love that movie though. Bay is awful but at least he got one movie right.
ReplyDeleteSo we're taking criticism from Michael Bay seriously now?
ReplyDeleteTrue story, when the first Transformers movie came out, the movie reviewer at the newspaper where I used to work outside of Chicago wrote a brutal review of the movie. Bay apparently saw the review and had his feelings hurt, as he not only called the newspaper to complain to the reviewer (who was a freelancer and did not work in the office) but he also wrote a letter to the editor. The letter explained how our reviewer obviously did not understand the artistic merit of the film and, most importantly, that his opinion didn't matter, because Bay's close friend Stephen Spielberg loved it, so there!
Yeah, I hate most of his work....but I fucking love The Rock.
ReplyDelete"Pershonally I think yawr a focking idiot."
I really, really hate the tone of that email. What a stereotypically whiny smark. OH MAN HE CALLED HIM DWAYNE!
ReplyDeleteGotta agree with the writer. I don't mind Rock dropping by for a wacky promo here and there (like Foley has been reduced to) but there's no need for him to clog up main events, especially if he's only going to wrestle other part-timers like Brock. Stick to the movies, Rock.
ReplyDeleteI saw GI Joe over the weekend, and if anything the Rock should quit movies and go back to wrestling full time. What a fucking godawful chore of a movie to sit through.
ReplyDeleteHey hey, he apologized for Armageddon.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the way Bay said was very tongue in cheek, and not at all bashing the Rock.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I'm glad the Rock came back, we got some entertaining promos out of it, and it was good of him to come back to give back to the business that made him. He let Punk pin him in the middle of the ring, he "passed the torch" to Cena (which unfortunately nobody with a penis over the age of 10 wanted to see), and got to interact with some other superstars.
But the thing is, he can't do both, he can't be jacked to all hell the way he is for movies and then try to wrestle in a ring. Doing one is going to screw up the other.
Bad Boys, The Rock, Transformers 1
ReplyDeleteI didn't think it was so bad. The ninja stuff was fun. Definitely better than the debacle that was the first movie.
ReplyDeleteAh, dislike Bay even more than I did before!
ReplyDeleteIt was fun to see the Rock come back, but nostalgia acts eventually run its course. See Hogan, Hulk 2002
ReplyDeleteHim huffing and puffing like Scott Steiner isn't really my cup of tea either.
ReplyDeleteThis.
ReplyDeleteShit like this email is why they rightfully don't care what we think.
You're hitting .333.
ReplyDeleteMichael Bay needs to grow up and stop ruining TMNT.
ReplyDeleteWell he only asked for 1
ReplyDeleteMichael Bay doesn't try to make Academy movies. But people seem to like watching them.
ReplyDeleteyou didnt like the first transformers?
ReplyDeleteNobody liked the first Transformers??!!
ReplyDeleteIts only one of two movies I have actually paid to see in theaters TWICE.
and the only movie i paid to see twice in the same day.
But then again, Im such a fan of Transformers i couldnt believe a live-action movie was being made of my childhood favorite cartoon of all time.
and Optimus Prime is a role model.
Yes a make believe character is a role model.
i do not care.
oh yea.
ReplyDeletefuck rock.
never should have come back... that run was worthless.
First one is ok, second one is legit one of the worst movies ever made, 3rd is worth watching once just for the Chicago sequence.
ReplyDeleteMichael Bay's a cunt.
ReplyDeleteRock was fine in his comeback. The punk feud was great and at least both matches hit 3 stars. I thought last year with cena was great. This year with cena the build was so bad its almost bizaare and the match was half good. I dont get how that's "fuck rock"
ReplyDeleteBad Boys.
ReplyDeleteits fuck rock to me, cuz it perpetuated creative stagnation.
ReplyDeleteback to status quo.
nothing changes, rock comes back AFTER 8....LONG....YEARS... to do nothing but hold the title hostage and get outclassed on the mic and in the ring by punk... but still went over!!!
twice.
and the end-game was cena...for the title.
Punk/cena: the final blowoff is starin in the face, but you run rock/cena twice in a revolution and you get shit returns.
meanwhile punk gets the consolation prize of being fed to taker. its a slap in the face for literally carrying the company since 2011.
it told him and me... when it comes to he big show, you're not a star.
I liked the giant robots.
ReplyDeleteEverything else...eh...
I guess it's time to remake The Rock with the Rock
ReplyDeleteYeah, he doesn't make quality deep films like Crash and Gladiator.
ReplyDelete"but a disappointing Rock is still better than 90% of the roster"
ReplyDeleteI disagree completely. Punk, Bryan, Cesaro (potentially), Ziggler, Sheamus (in terms of match quality), Rhodes, Sandow, JBL, fuck even AJ is better than the current Rock.
Listen, I think the Rock was pretty enjoyable in his heyday. He was one of the guys that got me into wrestling. But goddamn does he stick out, not in a good, "This is the MAN!" way, but in a "Jesus, I used to think this shit was funny?" way.
Watching him call people monkey crap was honestly somewhat embarrassing. I felt bad for him, I felt bad for the people he wrestled, and I felt bad for the fans watching him.
It's buyer's remorse. Rock vs. Cena 1 was fine. The build wasn't great, but the match and excitement was good. No problems there. Rock vs. Cena 2 sucked, build and match. I was bored by Rock back in 2001-2002. His match with Hogan was great, but his spiel was very tired. His heel turn into Hollywood Rock was fucking AWESOME though. His brief comebacks vs. Evolution was good.
ReplyDeleteBut as we have now learned, Rock shouldn't come back for extended stays. He should come back once in a while, cut some promos, put somebody over (via mic, not match).
Personally, I would prefer he doesn't become a crazied roid money and can move without tearing muscles in the case he comes back to do a match or two (preferably tag matches).
The first time that I saw it I thought that it was one of the most fun movies that I'd seen in a while, but I watched it on DVD later on and it didn't hold up as well.
ReplyDelete2 Problems with The Rock . . .
ReplyDelete1. He was out of practice as a wrestler. He should have been wrestling shorter matches on Raw to get his timing back and get used to taking bumps. Not wrestling for 10 months and jumping into 25 minute attempted classics is a bad idea.
2, He's roided or more likely HGH'd to the gills. Much like Triple H's quad injury, the tendons don't grow with the muscles and tears can happen fairly easily. I'm confident most Blog of Doom members could take an AA and not rip their abdominal muscles off the bone. For example - NFL player Bob Sanders (from my hometown) should have been a legend but kept tearing his muscles cause he was juiced to the max. The 1 year he stayed healthy the Colts won the Super Bowl and he was defensive player of year. Vince McMahon has abused juice for years, he spontaneously tears both quads at Rumble 05', same with Triple H's bizarre quad tears. Who the fuck tears their quad? Rock is damn near at Scott Steiner levels of muscle. I'm all for wrestlers looking huge and being in shape but God Damn.
bonus 3rd issue: Rock is a natural heel, he was the perfect foil for Steve Austin. Deep down fans really enjoy rooting against him albeit in a completely loving way. The babyface deal worked in 12' but flopped huge in 13'.
Hope he doesn't come back, I enjoy seeing his success outside the ring.
The Island is my favorite. The Rock & Bad Boys are fun, too.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed the first one because the child that's still in me saw cars transform into robots. It's a fun ride, but 20 minutes too long. And Starscream didn't argue with Megatron enough.
ReplyDeleteI want to give this thousands of likes.
ReplyDeleteI normally agree with Scott's snowflake assessments, but those Rock matches bored the hell out of me and I wouldn't give any of them > two stars, myself.
ReplyDeleteEasily my least favorite movie of all time, by a wide margin. And normally I could brush it off with that "eh its for kids" argument that Chandildo is so famous for, but it seems to mainly be popular with grown nerds and meatheads. Fuck that movie so hard.
ReplyDeleteI'm not normally a Bay fan but I actually want to see Pain & Gain, it looks like fluff but my kinda fluff. Certainly good for a Redbox night at least. And as much as I hate most of his films, I gotta give the guy credit for having a movie ghost-written by Quentin Tarantino. Oddly enough, my buddy just gave me a few movies to watch in his collection and one of them was The Island, so its a Bay kinda week I guess.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah and Rock needs to bow out gracefully. Keep him in the HBK role of coming around once a year to put some people over in promos if you want but no more wrestling.
oh my...
ReplyDeleteMan that scene when they pull up and you see Optimus transform for the first time.
I lost my shit.
Like I couldnt stop smiling for like the rest of the movie.
Fuck the people. I wanted to see ROBOTS!
And Megan Fox bend over cars... that didnt hurt.
Are you being sarcastic? Crash and Gladiator are your measure of deep films?
ReplyDeleteI thought the first movie was decent, but short of unequivocally good. It had its moments (the Transformers landing on Earth), but it's too long, the action too frantic at times to where I felt like I was watching it in a blender, and anything involving Megan Fox or the parents put me to sleep. But it's miles above the sequels, who squelched the strengths of the first and amplified everything wrong.
ReplyDeleteDon't like in the least. The first is meh, and the second is a piece of shit. Any movie that makes Will Smith one of the most unlikable cocksuckers ever on film has its own circle of cinematic hell.
ReplyDeleteNo, you only gave him one.
ReplyDeleteI think the 90% number was just pulled out of thin air.
ReplyDeleteFor some reason, that's the immediate go-to percentage when comparing today's roster to the roster of yesteryear, or the best of the roster to the worst.
"Daniel Bryan, on his worst day, is still better than 90% of the roster!"
It's just easier to say than "Daniel Bryan is better than approximately 75-80% of the roster."
Actually, come to think of it, Bryan probably is better between the ropes than 90% of the people they have.
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ReplyDeleteMy point. Is that the Oscar's aren't a measure of quality in film.
So saying that he doesn't make Academy films is a useless comment.
Daniel Bryan>The Rock.
ReplyDeleteIn pretty much every way.
My point is the Rock is not anywhere near to better than 90% of the roster. Maybe 60%.
yeah, it's funny how "looking huge" and "being in shape" rarely actually go together, no matter how much some people like to believe. Rock LOOKS in shape, but his weakened tendons actually mean that he's NOT, and is in terrible condition. I still laugh about when Faarooq claimed that he was in "the best shape of my life" because he'd worked out and gotten more ripped. He wrestled about a week and a half before another injury basically crippled him. If doing basic in-ring shit can cripple you, then YOU ARE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that should be brought up more on TV- pointing out that less-ripped guys are often less prone to muscle tears and have better cardio, too. I mean, John Cena has been injured a lot over the years too, hasn't he?
"Yes, I am being sarcastic" would've sufficed.
ReplyDeleteI take nothing for granted when it comes to movie taste on the BOD. There aren't too many Bergman or Kurosawa threads in these parts.
", and anything involving Megan Fox or the parents put me to sleep."
ReplyDeleteGhey?
The first half was cheesy Nickelodeon humor with Shia LeBeouf, one of the most irritating actors alive, and the second half was metal crashing against metal for an hour. Maybe its just because I was too young to give a shit about Transformers as a kid but I couldn't tell one of those fucking things from another.
ReplyDeletepretty sure it was three
ReplyDeleteBay tries to make "entertaining" movies.
ReplyDeleteThey aren't entertaining.
Bam, he fails at making movies.
Well the world at large seems to be pretty happy with paying money to see his pictures.
ReplyDeleteWe watch RAW every week even if we know we're going to suck. $$$ is no indicator of quality, esp. since moviegoers tend to have a "Show me" attitude by going to most "event" movies regardless if it's "good" or "bad". Even if they're dissatisfied, their money is, as Hogan!HBK would say, IN BAY'S FRONT POCKET, BROTHER. Pearl Harbor made a shitton of money, but it's not exactly fondly remembered by most.
ReplyDeleteSame philosophy as a Divas match: I don't care if they're hot, if they're not entertaining, I don't give a shit.
ReplyDeleteThe world is not paying money to see his pictures because they're directed by Michael Bay. They're going to see them because they're starring Will Smith in his prime, or giant transforming robots. The Island bombed, and I expect Pain & Gain to do the same; as those were largely sold as "directed by Michael Bay". The Transformers and Bad Boys movies made bank in spite of, not because of, Bay.
ReplyDeleteI'm really looking forward to Pain & Gain. It looks like an interesting story, Wahlberg always delivers, and it involves body-building. I'm sold.
ReplyDeleteNot really. John has only had 2 real injuries. One was a pec tear, and the other was neck. I believe John to actually be in shape. I believe him when he says he's natural, he's just an absolute perfect example of a mesomorph. You ever see his hands? His fingers are like rolls of quarters, it's ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteI know it's hip to hate Bay, but I've got no real beef.
ReplyDeleteHe's behind Platinum Dunes, and they gave me the Texas Chainsaw remake and prequel, both were fantastic. It also gave me Friday The 13th 2009, and that's one of the best entries in the series. I love that movie.
Funny to think though, if 14 years ago you said "In 2013, M. Night Shyamalan is gonna be a bigger joke than Michael Bay" people would think you crazy. Of course, they also thought you crazy for putting some money on the Cubbies!
And horses like oats.
ReplyDeletePopularity has nothing to do with quality.
It was way, way better than I thought it would be...
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