Scott, say it ain't so! Are you no longer a Rock fan? I ask because of the "people see through what he was doing" comment.
Well I mean I love the Rock as much as the next blogger, but clearly going out and doing three matches, one of which was a job for the guy who is already the biggest star in the business and needs it least, is hardly the humanitarian effort of the century or anything. I know he loves the business and also needs to support his movie career, but really it makes you wonder why he even bothered, ya know? Hell, the "redemption" storyline for Cena even worked better with Punk because Cena had been bitching about how Punk was the guy he couldn't beat all year, and Punk's title reign ending at Wrestlemania with the epic match they had on RAW would have been just as good as what we got, if not better. Plus Rock really had nothing to say from a creative standpoint, just a bunch of funny stories and "Gosh I wanted to be champion again". He's great, but this last run was anything but.
This is like a gift 5 minutes before I get off work...
ReplyDeleteYou and I have a different definition of "funny". But I actually enjoyed the match this year more than last year.
ReplyDeleteThe Rock's "injury" reminds me of that scene in Back To School where the chickenshit heel refuses to take a dive.
ReplyDelete"I have got a really bad cramp!"
"It's probably menstrual."
"Screw you, Mellon!"
The whole Rock "welcome home" storyline has run out of steam for me. If Rocky were to not come back for another seven years, that would be fine. He didn't do anyone but Cena any favors, anyway. You know, the last time Rock put over a midcarder, it was The Hurricane, but Triple H put an end to that real quick. Brock Lesnar doesn't need to give his 2002 win back. That was over 10 years ago, and Rock is not a guy that needs a win. If a guy is going to come out of retirement, or semi-retirement, or whatever the hell Rock was doing, you need to be putting over a guy who needs to be legitimized. I really don't hear anyone complaining about Jericho putting over Fandango now that Fandango has taken off. BEFORE Wrestlemania was a different story.
ReplyDeleteRock will always be the man based off his actual wrestling career and becoming a giant movie star. I'm kinda over his cena feud but the main event last year was reallyrreally good and I thought his three matches this year were 3 stars or better. So even when he "sucks" his bad matches are better than anything huntor has done in a decade
ReplyDeleteSpeaking as a really big fan, Rocky can stay home now. That would be fine.
ReplyDeleteRock was one of the first guys I really enjoyed in Attitude Era. His feud with HHH and the McMahon family was what got me back into wrestling (after "growing out of it" in 93), and I think you can make a case for him being the best all around performers of all time.
ReplyDeleteBut I think what these last few runs have shown is that Rock is still a human performer with weaknesses that were covered up by the Attitude Era's crowd energy, adrenaline junkie pace, and over the top approach. This isn't to take away anything from the Rock, so much as to point out that the Attitude Era was a perfect storm that brought out the best in everyone, and that just bringing Rocky back to sing the hits is not going to cut it.
The only bullets left in WWE's gun are "Moments." Big moments; Wrestlemania moments. Matches end in "respect" hugs and handshakes, or someone "proves" something. But all of these sentiments are as empty as they are big. WWE has forgotten what adrenaline is, and they've forgotten how to cut their performers loose. Dolph hitting the ring to cash in was a pure rush of that old feeling, at least for me. The picture of Daniel Bryan raising his arm with the brothers of destruction didn't even make it on TV, and yet people are using it as their sig or avatar. Fandango won people over by correcting the announcer even when his guts had been kicked in. These are the things that Vince would have capitalized on before, but now they aren't big enough, so he ignores them.
Frankly, I don't think he did Cena any favors, either. He spent pretty much two years straight constantly pointing out his flaws and turning the fans against him even more, and what did Cena get out of it? He got a win, which really only made up for the loss he suffered the prior year. In the past two years, has he ever put Cena over (verbally) the way he's torn him down?
ReplyDeleteThe biggest problem with WWE is that they are planning TOO long term. They had a TWO YEAR, perhaps even as long as THREE YEAR plan for what was happening at the top beginning at Wrestlemania XXVII. Anyone else who accidentally got over during that time (with the notable exception of CM Punk) was doomed to, at best, be shunted to the sidelines or, at worst, be buried for taking attention away from the designated stars.
ReplyDeleteInstead of appreciating the gifts from the wrestling gods, they treat them as vermin to be exterminated.
I think this last run just burned Rock out. Too much on his plate, plus dealing with Vince and his bullshit. Doesn't make up for the mediocre promo/ring work, though. But there was no point to the rematch other than giving Cena his win back and everybody saw through it.
ReplyDeleteWell said and the Ziggler thing is a good example of one of the few times they pay something off well.
ReplyDeleteIn an attempt to maintain supreme control over their product on paper and ignoring what happens in the actual arenas, they've stripped all the real energy from it. They have all these opportunities right in front of them for the taking, but they choose whatever thing would be the most conventional. The energy of the crowd used to rub off on the wrestlers and enhanced the product, now it's totally at odds with it.
A millionaire that should be a billionaire indeed.
I think the long term planning would work fine if they actually had a clue what the crowd wanted or if the organization was capable of manipulating the audiences emotions. Nowadays nothing comes off well, because they either have no idea or don't care what their audiences want. Plus the wrestlers themselves are so handcuffed as far as getting off the script (at least when camera are rolling).
ReplyDeleteHis ringwork was terrible, he seemed gas after 5 mins in each match (injury aside at wm)
ReplyDeleteMy question is why did they pay it off on Raw instead of at Wrestlemania? The same chants for that Ziggler fella were the night before.
ReplyDeleteI think I sound like a broken record, I am for sure the minority here but I want to see the part timers on Raw wrestling and at least pretending to be part of the roster. Rock should of had at least 1 title defense on Raw even it was a squashing of Antonio Cesaro or Damien Sandow. Likewise for Lesnar, we need to be reminded of their spots and what to pop for. The pay to see this guy approach doesn't work anymore, it's not 1988. I would be far more invested as a fan if I got to appreciate these guys work more often. I also suspect this is why everyone blew a gasket for Ziggler. Everyone saw him work his ass off and bump like a damn pinball for Sheamus and whoever else they were putting over him. As long as the product still vaguely resembles a wrestling show then what happens between the ropes still matters. Rock never came back to be a wrestler, he came back to be a movie star that was wrestling and this was too transparent to even the most basic mark.
ReplyDeleteThis Hurricane thing keeps coming up; Rock put him over, HHH then totally killed him.
ReplyDeleteBy that point, I wasn't watching much - but really - was The Hurricane ever going to amount to a great deal?
From what I saw of him, he was a perfectly adequate (lower) midcarder.
Or was I missing something? Genuinely, I'm intrigued.
He was never going to be a huge star, but I think he could've been a consistent title contender and lived a good 5 years off the rub from Rock.
ReplyDeleteAgreed that Cena vs. Punk at WM to end Punk's reign would have been absolutely legendary. But is blame really best directed toward The Rock?
ReplyDeleteSure, in retrospect, he should have put Cena over at WM28 and left it at that. But he's not the booker. Besides, WM28 was well-received and I'm sure it was electrifying for Rock to be back in front of fans — he's an entertainer at heart and you don't the same level of audience interaction with movies. Add in Vince undoubtably going ape-shit about the financial success of WM28 and rolling out the red carpet for Rock to do 29 ... of course he was going to come back. He's a nice guy!
Look, if there's one thing that WWE (if not pro wrestling itself) knows how to do, it's keeping a hot program going well past the expiration date. The blame should not be on The Rock. He's not the in-ring performer that he once was, but he did his job — literally and figuratively. The finger should be pointed at WWE management for running Cena/Rock II in the first place. Hell, keeping Cena & Rock away from the title and headlining with Punk/Taker in a streak-vs-title match or Punk/Lesnar for the title would have taken some of the weight off Rock's shoulders and avoided this situation.
As it is, The Rock was always a part-time guy who came in to work a special attraction program that ran it's course a year ago but Vince got greedy and built the whole promotion around him. It was stupid and it shows how desperate WWE management are for stars like The Rock — seemingly oblivious to the fact that it's their refusal to listen to what fans want that's given them a stable of guys they don't believe are hot enough to headline Mania without a star from 10+ years ago coming back as a personal favor. You can't count on favors!
Worst case scenario: Vince takes this personally and becomes even more obstinant that letting crowds create new stars like The Rock & Austin puts too much power in the hands of the talent and he doubles down on 50/50 booking and cutting the legs out from under anyone who gets serious heat.
Best case scenario: This is a wakeup call that the product needs a rebirth and WWE management realizes Monday's RAW represents a clear path to revitalization: letting the fans organic reactions drive the direction of the company and its storylines.
I'm really hoping for the latter. It's hard to believe that the same Vince McMahon who saw the writing on the wall and outright announced the beginning of the Attitude era would find himself stuck clinging to its remains while seemingly forgetting all its lessons ... but then again everyone always says this business is cyclical.
Hell, even interacting with the midcarders would have gone a long way. Rock's mic work before his sabbatical with guys like Christian and Hurricane was not only priceless, but it really did elevate them. Aside from when Rock and Cena beat up the Corre and when the Rock and Punk had that one post wedding promo with Daniel Bryan, I can't think of a single time Rock interacted with someone other than a main event talent. How great would it be to see Rock trading barbs with Dolph Ziggler? Or Daniel Bryan? Or Santino? Or Cody? Or a handful of others.
ReplyDeleteRock should really just stay away for a while now. I'm not sure the fans would be too kind of he was back in 2 weeks, but I could be wrong. He's had some good moments the past year, like RAW 1000, and the initial promo with Punk where both guys were GOLD. Anything else...meh. Not to take anything away from what he was and had done back in the late 90's and early 00's.
ReplyDeleteHelms drew a decent paycheque for a long time on a fair to middlin' level of talent IMO.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't have stood out as well at Wrestlemania.
ReplyDeleteAlso, if they did that, then they wouldn't have had the time to run that fourth Rock/Cena promo video during the show.
Yuck, that's some shite average match quality
ReplyDeleteIf that Cena vs. Punk match happened at Wrestlemanka we
ReplyDeleteHurricane sold a pretty good amount of merchandise to kids, so he would've always had a spot in the card.
ReplyDeleteAccording to all reports I've read he was not that the HOF ceremony.
ReplyDeleteAnd there's Orton, who clearly doesn't give a shit.
ReplyDeletethe people?
ReplyDeleteI don't think Rock was the problem, it was how WWE decided to use him. How many wrestlers did he really interact with from Wrestlemania 27-Wrestlemania 29? Four: Miz, R-Truth, CM Punk, John Cena.
ReplyDeleteMiz and Truth were treated as complete afterthoughts by WWE despite being in direct competition with Rock on a major PPV. They could've been replaced by ANYONE -- Punk, Iron Sheik, Maria Menousousousous -- and it makes zero difference. They were real-live props, nothing more.
Punk got to work a 2-month program with Rock, but only because Rock had to get the belt and needed something to do before Mania. Punk was only there to transition the belt to Cena via Rock, which is a shame because he had such a great title reign and its ending just wasn't done very well story-wise.
Then we have Cena. The one guy on the roster who didn't need any kind of rub and who wouldn't benefit one bit from going one-on-one with Rock on the mic.
Contrast that with Jericho, who interacts with lots more guys and is treated like an actual member of the roster. Rock was treated like a special attraction who was involved in feuds that essentially existed in their own bubble.
Russo and ferrera wrote a lot of his cool stuff in 98 thru 99. People forget that.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing that they've lost control of is wrestlers actually doing things. Like what did the Rock and Cena do to each other? They said mean things. Not only did they just say stuff, they said stuff when it was their respective turn. They debated.
ReplyDeleteLike, why do we lead off each broadcast with someone talking? At least when HHH lead off with an interview, it was to gloat about something, or to yell at his troops, or but a bounty on someone's head.
John Cena leads off each show because he's Jay Leno and that's his monologue time.
I'm not saying we should return to Stone Cold running HHH's ambulance with a Mac truck, but when was the last time where it felt like someone really had to get revenge?
Didn't you hear? He's the more mature Randy Orton now. He has a family.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree, though I have a bigger problem with them closing most shows with people talking.
ReplyDeleteEverything they try to do sucks now. Even the good things, like the Summer of Punk, like Rocky coming back, ended on a sour note by going all to shit. It's not a complaint, or an indictment, or a call to arms or anything like that...it's just the culmination of Vince's onsetting dementia + all the bad decisions and deluded operations he's forced things to go towards. Underwhelming, bittersweet, & a letdown. It'll evolve into something else someday, but lord knows when.
ReplyDeleteRic Flair as Thornton Mellon.
ReplyDeleteI think that was the Swedish wrestling supercard that was run the same day.
ReplyDelete"There will be an additional turnbuckle installed for Flair's dive...The Flair Flip."
ReplyDeleteThe thing about Randy Orton is that....
ReplyDelete(...uh, what's my line?)
ReplyDeleteKeep this in mind: Vince doesn't have a WCW to force him out of his bad habits. He'll run the well dry before he changes anything, unless TNA becomes something they seem to be completely unready for at present.
ReplyDeleteNope. Wouldn't even watch it On Demand/Netflix/etc...
ReplyDeleteThat ended up working out a HELL of a lot better by "saving" it for Raw.
ReplyDelete1) You hit the nail on the head.
ReplyDelete2) By contrasting Rock with Jericho, all I can think of now is a Rock/Fandango feud.
Fwiw he also interacted with dbry
ReplyDelete"John Cena leads off each show because he's Jay Leno and that's his monologue time."
ReplyDeleteFantastic.
I think he meant well. I don't think he got involved with WWE to wrestle at all. It was reported he wasn't going to, and then slightly before 27 it was reported he was willing to do more than initially planned. I think he would've just shook Cena's hand after he beat the Miz and been on his way but being around wrestling again gave him the itch. The mistake, I think, was trying to drag this all out for two years. He just didn't have the time to be there as much as he needed to be, and likely didn't have the free time to focus solely on wrestling and come up with anything creative, leading to him leaning on the current creative team, which makes everything shitty. WWE's shitty, Cena's shitty, everything they do turns shitty, it makes sense they'd make Rock shitty to....I think he just bit off more than he could chew, wasn't able to knock it out of the park as he would have if this was his full time gig, and it sounds like the new shitty WWE environment pissed him off backstage somehow.
ReplyDeleteBut it was what, one throwaway promo that was never mentioned again? Didn't really find it worth mentioning.
ReplyDeleteStupid! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid awesome reply!
ReplyDeleteThey wrote a lot of stuff, but you also had a lot of power in the hands of the road agents. Despite his grabby nature, Pat Patterson booked the flow of a lot of the matches and helped guys with their promos. So even when the stories were insane or juvenile, the storytelling was better.,
ReplyDeleteNo way. No way no way no way. Hurricane was mediocre at best promo wise, and physique wise he looked like a small child. Spike Dudley in a Batman costume isn't a consistent title contender no matter who jobs to him.
ReplyDeleteI don't get this "Rock put over Hurricane" thing. He beats the crap out of Hurricane for 10 minutes, then gets pinned by a rollup when he's distracted. I don't think Helms winning on a massive fluke is "putting over".
ReplyDeleteAccording to Foley, Rock was coming up his own stuff, even "winging it" a lot of the time, especially The "This is Your Life" segment. I really wonder how much the last 12 years of memorizing lines from a scripts has hurt him in a live setting?
ReplyDeleteI agree. I can't stand that there are now creative teams with up to 14 people AND writer assistants putting together shows! You really lose a distinct voice or vision with that many damn people. Reminds me of poochie
ReplyDeleteYou are right though. Whatever you think of Russo or Ferrera, they tapped into something at the time. I think it got out of control, especially when Russo went to WCW, but they definitely hit a spark.
ReplyDeleteMost of you know that I've never really been a Rock fan, but I have to admit that as much as I've talked a lot of shit about how he "no longer has it", I do respect him a lot. He's one of the biggest stars ever, is a hell of an ambassador in terms of being charming and well-spoken, seems like a genuinely great guy, and obviously works his ass off in terms of being one of those guys that survives on twenty minutes of sleep per day.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I had no problem with him coming back - I mean, it's the friggin' ROCK, come on! He's back! He's gonna fight Cena! The execution, though, by both Rock and Vince, was awful. There was SOOO much potential to do something great, and while it undoubtedly started hot, it went absolutely nowhere and actually hurt others in the process.
Let's say the first two WMs play out exactly the same; I think we can all agree that the build between WM27 and WM28 could have been better, but there's no way to say that doing Rock/Cena at 28 was the wrong decision. But what happened after that? Cena continued to be the center of the show, Rock (as Vince's proxy) made their only true breakout star look terrible, and we got a rematch that nobody wanted.
What if, instead of that, they held off on Rock/Punk until last Sunday. Then, let's say that Punk actually won. You know what you've done? You've said that Punk > Cena. Not that that's necessarily true, but at least you've made an ATTEMPT at elevating somebody else to their level. Meanwhile, you have Cena take on Taker. Why? Because with Cena looking to reclaim his mojo, and Taker on the nice round 20-0, it would give the impression that Taker's streak might actually end this year. But, no, why do THAT, when you can build a rematch between a guy that showed he can't go more than five minutes and the guy that half the audience dislikes instead.
Lol. I meant Russo and ferrera thought of the storylines and the outside the box scenarios like the this is your life segment. I have no doubt rock winged a lot of it, but he was given the idea and bullets beforehand. If I see another lame "rock concert" on raw in my lifetime, I will kill myself. Think about it. The fans were more creative this week than the creative team has been in a decade.
ReplyDeleteYeah, gotta agree - Shane Helms sucked, and basically hit some popularity on a goofy one-note gimmick.
ReplyDeleteYeah the wcw time was unfortunate. But they made something special with storylines and characters with the 2 years they had in WWF. No 5 star matches but it was still entertaining, week to week storytelling and with effort. Midcarders even had a chance to shine.
ReplyDeleteThey found stuff for Viscera and Mideon to do. Viscera and Mideon.
ReplyDeleteHaha awesome. Yes. And don't forget Bob holly became entertaining as the aloof "big shot" Hardcore Holly.
ReplyDeleteI think back then, The Rock was The Rock, like how they say guys should be their character and feel their character. He could dedicate all his time to thinking of things to say and get so involved in his character he could turn it on and be it, to the point where he can react to thinks as The Rock because he is The Rock......but now he's so busy, playing so many characters, he has to become all of those characters and can't just be The Rock all the time. The Rock is more a character Dwayne Johnson plays now.
ReplyDeletePat Paterson. He'll book you a great match and he'll blow you. What else can you ask for?
ReplyDelete"North Korea is in the news, have you heard this? They smell like poop...."
ReplyDeleteIf you want to let people know that Dolph Ziggler is a big deal, end Wrestlemania with him standing tall over The Rock and John Cena. As it is, it's Swagger's victory with a bigger pop.
ReplyDeleteI just don't know how I feel about The Rock either. This injury he got makes you wonder why we cheer guys who just take drugs to get their look. The legacy stars, part-timers, whatever you want to call them are obviously gassed-up. They aren't held accountable to the wellness policy, according to Meltzer. They get pushed above all these guys who don't take PEDs, like Punk, Bryan, hell even Kane. Something is wrong with this. What WAS the point of the Rock's return? Make a lot of money, I guess.
ReplyDeleteSomeone else mentioned this and I agree: Don't look at Rock through the lens of a wrestler. View Rock as a celebrity. His matches are akin to a celebrity wrestling. He's a celebrity, not a wrestler. He's Lawrence Taylor.
ReplyDeleteNaked Mideon. This really happened.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Bryan is pretty over. Cena's hatred is getting more passionate by the year. If they decided to go with face Bryan vs heel Cena next year, they could build towards it and make it work. The problem is that they decide that the thing you don't like this year is the thing they're going to give you next year. There's no Shawn taking the ball from Diesel or Batista taking it from Orton, it's Cena's and if you try to take it, fuck you!
ReplyDeleteI did from backstage promos with him where Hurricane got him with some zingers. That, combined with the fluke roll up put him over - not in a "this is a good wrestler" way, but in a "this is an entertaining character" type of way. I don't think Hurricane should have gone over Hunter, ever, but there was no reason to put Hunter over Hurricane.
ReplyDeleteThe Rock Concert. So, so lame. 20x worse than a Flair for the Gold, a John Cena Rap Battle or any "main-event contract signing".
ReplyDeleteTwice! I thought he was a bad ass because of that Vertibreaker.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if you can do any more favors for Cena. He's been winning and shoved down our throat since 2005 - there's no big match or moment that's going to happen when the people that hate him suddenly love him because he's been "made" now. He beat The Rock. Okay, all that did was turn off the people who already hated Cena.
ReplyDeleteLol that's so awful.
ReplyDeleteAh, Russo And ferrara didn't do that. That was created by gerwitz in late 2000
ReplyDeleteJust close your eyes and imagine it's Kelly Kelly.
ReplyDeleteHow do you like me now?!
ReplyDeleteI dunno, ok I guess? I'd like you better if you stiffed some newbie and got all self righteous about it.
"Arms too short to box with God" just killed the Rock character for me. I LOVED him during the attitude era but that promo just exemplified how far Punk has passed his tired act. And then Cena/Punk with the freaking hurricanrana and piledriver...so much good stuff that Rock and Cena just didn't tap into.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Also, his prime was over 10 years ago. Even if he wasn't out of the ring full time since 2002 and hadn't wrestled since 2004, it's possible at this point he'd be slowing down in the ring anyway. I think you have to keep in mind wrestling isn't his primary career anymore - it's a treat for us, it's fun for him, but you just can't expect him to be burning himself out taking on this insane schedule and provide 5 star matches while he does.
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine reading that out of context? I'm thinking of the 19 year olds on 411 just being like "wait...whaaaa?" And we're not even mentioning the fucking Godwin part...
ReplyDeleteI don't watch regularly, but they don't seem to have top guys randomly interact with lower card guys anymore, do they? If Cena's backstage talking about his troubles, he's talking to Sheamus or someone like that. It could be because not a lot of guys have unique characters anymore. The Attitude Era had characters and it was fun to see them have interactions. Or later, it was fun to see a big star like The Rock interact with a guy who dimensionally thought he could be as big as star like Christian. Or goody Edge and Christian trying to pal up with Triple H, or even Goldust trying to make friends with Goldberg. There's really nothing entertaining you could do with Rock and Kofi backstage because Kofi has no character. There's a very clear pecking order where the top guys don't associate with lower guys, much like WCW had. And when Dolph does mingle with Cena, it's Hogan/Kidman.
ReplyDeleteHis .379 BABIP had more to do with his average than PEDs.
ReplyDeleteHe's not Shawn though and he hasn't been full time like Shawn was.
ReplyDeleteHey now he defended it twice!
ReplyDeleteSaber-metrics make my head hurt....
ReplyDeletetoo bad he didnt put on a performance in 2013 as good as LT did in 1995
ReplyDeleteAt least he claims to have injured himself worse than LT did.
ReplyDeleteHe isn't a guy who just stepped into the ring for the first time a few years ago either.
ReplyDeleteI liked Rock's match with Cena at 28. I thought it was great. His Punk series and the Cena match left a bad taste though.
ReplyDeleteBut we can't look at him like The Rock of old anymore. He's coming back for one off performances, not in any grand design to make a full time return. He's Dwayne Johnson portraying The Rock in WrestleMania 29: The Movie.
ReplyDeleteI don't look at him like the Rock of old anymore. But I also don't look at him like some celebrity novice.
ReplyDeleteThere have been a few genuine sparks, mostly connected to Daniel Bryan and CM Punk.
ReplyDeleteBut not much on the main event scene.
Yeah but LT was "Set up like a muthafucka"
ReplyDeleteExactly. 2012 Cena match was very good. None of the 2013 matches were.
ReplyDeleteThis. Hurricane was never gonna be a huge star, but he got a big rub just from being AROUND The Rock, much less getting a lucky win. HHH squashing him was just mean and selfish on HHH's part, designed to gobble up whatever rub Hurricane had. Rock knew that, and that's why he refused to job to Booker T before WrestleMania.
ReplyDeletethis gimmick aint got no legs.
ReplyDeleteI thought about Personal Executive Consultant to the Fuj. I would look dapper in the jacket with my name in rhinestones.
ReplyDeleteand thats why
ReplyDeleteFandango will bomb
The Shield will bomb
Dolph Ziggler: World Champ will bomb... again....
Big E Langston is just terrible.
Ryback will bomb harder.
what the fuck is a BABIP?
ReplyDeleteseriously.
Like Im not the biggest follower of baseball anymore, but i know the following
HR
RBI
BA
OBP
SB
BB
and i struggled with the last 3.
Get me some juice bitch... make me some juice.
ReplyDeleteGimme a philly blunt son!
And a Banana cognac Beyotch!
But I WANT to like you.
ReplyDelete"I'm an annoying cunt. You hear about this? Hear about this?"
ReplyDelete*Black guy laughs off-camera*
Better yet, Kevin Kelly.
ReplyDeleteBatting average on balls in play. It eliminates HRs from a player's batting average. It's more useful to look at a pitcher bapip than a hitters. But a .379 babip is incredibly rare and flukey.
ReplyDeleteEspecially when Rock's retort was about "going one on one with the great one," another one of his catchphrases from the 90's.
ReplyDeletelolwat.
ReplyDeletesee, thats why i dont watch baseball.
Its made up shit like that.
It helps that everything Punk said was 100% accurate. Rock really is a "tired, lame ass schtick" at this point.
ReplyDeleteHow is it more made up than any other stat?
ReplyDelete"I'm not saying we should return to Stone Cold running HHH's ambulance
ReplyDeletewith a Mac truck, but when was the last time where it felt like someone
really had to get revenge?"
Heck, I'll say it. "we should totally return to vehicular homicide attempts." As silly as it was, it at least showed genuine hatred.
The last such instance was Zack Ryder interacting with Cena and Kane and I'm not sure he's been heard from since.
ReplyDeleteKatie got some big-ass tittayes
ReplyDeleteKelly Kelly is the diva you chose out of all of the available optins? dafuq?
ReplyDeleteRock is a great wrestler, and I've always been a fan, but here's my question: even if Brock wasn't happening, Rock couldn't have gone out there, admitted his injury, said goodbye to the fans, and taken the triple powerbomb from the Shield? It would've tied in to the Undertaker attack later(Shield are going after people who were unjustly featured at Wrestlemania, or whatever their reasoning was), and it would've effectively written out The Rock, whether or not he decided to come back.
ReplyDeleteHe had a segment with Rhodes Scholars on Smackdown... that is barely even canon though so point agreed with.
ReplyDeleteBully Ray blasted Jeff Hardy in the face with a hammer on Impact.
ReplyDeleteIt was fantastic, especially the short moment of "Does he have a hammer? He's not going to HIT me with it, is he?" that Hardy had.
At a certain point, wrestlers just look like idiots for going after people when they've just lost a match. Heels need to cross lines so that the faces have somewhere to go.
I don't even remember it... when did that happen? He did have a segment with Rhodes Scholars on Smackdown... though that barely even counts.
ReplyDeleteOr mention it when he was on Leno, or come to the fucking HoF ceremony... I don't know that I blame him for this, but it just illustrates what a bad decision his whole run over the last 2+ years has been.
ReplyDeleteThis guy gets it. :: Writes The Fuj a royalty check ::
ReplyDeleteLike Home Runs or Run batted In?
ReplyDeleteShit that matters.
Idk man, i cant say that i follow baseball, but is it really necessary to know the batting average on balls in play? as opposed to the overall batting average.
Over like Grover.
ReplyDeletePiper had notebooks full of lines and promos, according to John Carpenter.
ReplyDeleteI actually wrote Scott a novel size email, that didn't make air asking basically the same thing. Does this 1, 2 year planning really work?
ReplyDeleteI guess it works for the bottom line but it seems to handicap them to do other things and push someone who is hot because the end game is set in stone.
But for all the slake wcw gets they at least got the titles on The Hollywood Blondes for a little bit even if they knew it wasn't going to last. Its better than what wwe does now, jobbing anyone out who dares to get over on their own.
Not if you are a casual fan. But if you want to why a player's average is so and so, bapip can tell you.
ReplyDeleteWrong Belt. No way in hell anyone buys Ziggler on that level after losing to Hell No earlier.
ReplyDeleteZiggler still needs to be built up... the belt has to be the start here. Not much faith in WWE getting it more than half-right, but they've started it right at least.
OOOOH. Okay from that perspective I agree. (Finally...I've never really understood it till it was explained this way).
ReplyDeleteYou gotta keep it real. I couldn't reconcile Miss Elizabeth's face with the kind of action Patterson would be providing.
ReplyDeleteKelly Kelly makes it legit.