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ROH Border Wars 2013


Live from Toronto. Hosted by Kevin Kelly and Nigel McGuiness.


ACH & TaDarius Thomas vs. Caprice Coleman & Cedric Alexander: This has the potential to be a complete trainwreck. Thomas and Coleman start, they dance around for a bit before fighting over a headlock, then a cradle reversal sequence. Both guys tag out and ACH & Alexander do a back-and-forth involving some armdrags. Thomas back in now with an elbowdrop that only gets a 1 count. He gets a vertical suplex for 2, Alexander fights back with forearms but ACH comes in on a blind tag with a neckbreaker. He hooks a bodyscissors and tags in Thomas, who lands a dropkick for 2. Alexander is back up with a dropkick of his own, Thomas bails to the floor and Coleman gets tagged in, he tries a dive to the outside but ACH cuts him off. ACH backflips to the floor and Alexander takes him out with a dive, back in the ring Thomas goes after Coleman with his usual stuff. He tries one of the capoeira kicks, Coleman catches the leg and Alexander dropkicks him in the back of the head. C+C hit a snap suplex/slingshot senton combo, then a suplex/twisting bodypress combo for 2. Alexander in now and they slug it out before Alexander gets a snapmare and a kick to the back of the head. C+C hit the spinebuster/leg lariat for 2, Coleman hits a scoop slam and a legdrop for 2. Thomas enziguries both guys and finally makes the hot tag and ACH sends Coleman to the floor, but Alexander nails him from behind. ACH sends him to the outside as well, Thomas hits the Space Flying Tiger Drop on Coleman and ACH gets Air Jordan on Alexander. Back in ACH gets a pumphandle suplex, Coleman makes the save. Thomas gets dumped and Coleman hits the triple Northern Lights on ACH for 2. Everyone throws kicks before ACH lands some sort of rope-assisted Crusher for 2. Overtime finishes ACH shortly thereafter at 11:00. Everything landed clean, and that’s all I ask from these guys. **1/2, good opener but not something I’d go out my way to watch again.

Mike Bennett (w/Maria Kanellis) vs. Roderick Strong: This was supposed to be a triple threat with Mike Mondo, but he got injured again last week. Brutal Bob is absent from Bennett’s corner thanks to problems getting across the border, according to the commentators. Maybe he should start managing Sabu or Jeff Hardy… Maria is practically naked, so I expect the camera to focus more on her than the wrestlers. A couple lockups go nowhere before Strong hits a chop and Bennett bails to the outside. He heads back in as Kelly describes him as a “5 tool guy”. I don’t see how his baseball abilities are relevant  here. Bennett hits a shoulderblock, Strong lands a wheel kick and stomps away in the corner, Maria hops up on the apron but nothing comes out of it. Strong gets a backslide for 2 and hooks the Stronghold, Bennett easily gets to the ropes. Strong gets dumped, but he immediately pulls Bennett out with him and chops away on the floor before getting dropped back-first on the edge of the ring. Strong eats the barricade a few times before Bennett tosses him back in for a 1 count. Shoulderblock for 2, then Bennett hits a scoop slam (and does the CM Punk GTS taunt for some reason) and a legdrop for 2. He runs into a boot on a blind charge but no-sells and sends Strong back down with a clothesline. Maria joins the commentators for a moment as a forearm battle breaks out, Strong wins that and he puts Bennett on the top rope and eventually hits a (nearly blown) superplex for 2. He throws a knee but ends up running into a spinebuster. Bennett charges in but Strong jumps over him and lands a jumping knee in the corner, a backbreaker gets 2. He tries a fireman’s carry but Bennett grabs the top rope to block. He gets it again and tries for the double-knee gutbuster but Bennett reverses it into a cradle for 2. Spear gets 2, he tries for the TKO but Strong gets free and hooks the Stronghold again, Bennett taps but the ref is distracted by Maria. Bennett hits a superkick and the Box Office Smash, but Strong kicks out. And now here’s Cheeseburger out to jam his tongue down Maria’s throat, Bennett gives chase but runs into the Sick Kick from Strong and that ends his night at 11:36. **, decent enough, but I can’t be bothered to give a shit about either of these guys. For some reason we get a replay of Cheeseburger making out with Maria, though at this point I’d think that’s the highlight of his career.

Clips of Kevin Steen getting booted out of S.C.U.M. are shown.

I Quit: Rhett Titus (w/ Steve Corino) vs. BJ Whitmer: Speaking of people I don’t give a shit about… Corino runs his mouth about, well, everyone before Whitmer runs out and attacks. Corino distracts Whitmer but it doesn’t do any good and Titus gets dumped to the floor as McGuiness leaves the commentary table and heads to the back. Whitmer lands a dive to the outside and plays to the crowd while McGuiness is back with 2 refs and they toss Corino, with a “Get the fuck out” chant from the crowd. Back in the ring Whitmer fires off chops in the corner, he goes for a top rope rana but Titus drops him on the top turnbuckle. He stomps away and chokes Whitmer with his foot, the ref asks him if he wants to quit and he declines. Now Whitmer gets dumped, Titus hits a neckbreaker on the floor and chokes Whitmer out, then kicks his head into the ringpost. Back in we hit the chinlock, Titus also adds some fish hooking, which is guess is pretty creative. He stops to play to the crowd before kitting a kick to the face, then starts biting his forehead. Another chinlock now, this time with a bridge. Whitmer finally makes the comeback, but gets sent into the middle turnbuckle and Titus grabs some zip-ties from ringside. He tries to tie Whitmer to the ropes, but Whitmer fights back. Titus ends up getting tied to the ropes, Whitmer fires off some shitty looking punches but Titus won’t quit. So he grabs a chair, but now Corino is back out to try and take one for the team, Titus tells the ref that he quits before Corino gets his skull cracked open at 11:32. This was just a bad idea from the start. *, total mess with a fucking stupid ending, and hopefully this will be the last time these two are in the ring together. Jimmy Jacobs and Cliff Compton are out to jump Whitmer, Jay Lethal and Michael Elgin make the save and that takes us right into:

Jimmy Jacobs and Cliff Compton vs. Jay Lethal and Michael Elgin: If S.C.U.M. wins then Corino becomes the commentator and a S.C.U.M. member gets a world title shot. If Lethal/Elgin win S.C.U.M. has to leave ROH for good, which gives away the outcome right there. Brawling to start, Titus is still tied to the ropes so Lethal superkicks him just for the hell of it. One of the ring crew guys finally cuts him free (though Corino remains at ringside) as the guys that are actually in the match take the brawl to the outside, Compton ends up going over the guardrail and into the crowd thanks to a kick from Elgin. They make it back in the ring, Jacobs takes over on Lethal but that doesn’t last long and Elgin tags in. He goes straight for the delayed vertical suplex and holds him up for nearly a full minute with the crowd counting along. It gets 2 and a “That was awesome!” chant, Jay is back in and they do some double-team stuff (with someone near the ring mic yelling “Fuck!”), Jacobs goes to the eyes and tags in Compton. Lethal hits the handspring elbow and now Elgin is back in with the delayed suplex on Compton, Jacobs tries to break it up but Lethal cuts him off and hooks a delayed vertical of his own. That spot always impressed me just because I couldn’t imagine being strong enough to do that. Elgin gets 2 off a standing senton, Lethal comes in but gets nailed with a jumping knee, Jay comes right back and sends Compton into an Elgin slingshot shoulderblock. Jacobs gets sent to the floor and Lethal does the dive through the ropes, blowing out his knee in the process. Elgin hits Compton with the Black Hole Slam in the ring for 2 before going to check on Lethal. A couple refs also come out to attend to him as Corino wants him counted out, and he has a point, I’m pretty sure Lethal is the legal man. Now McGuiness gets involved as well, Elgin gets back in the ring and just destroys the heels, including a cool spot where he catches Jacobs trying a spear and powerbombs him into Compton. A double fallaway slam gets 2 on Compton, he tries to bucklebomb Jacobs but Compton nails him from behind and sends him into the ringpost. Jacobs tags in and the heels beat on Elgin in their corner before Jacobs hits a jumping DDT and does the always hilarious “pretend to be a dog pissing on your opponent” taunt. He grabs a sleeper but gets crushed in the corner, Compton charges in but runs into a boot, Jacobs goes for the sleeper again but Elgin German suplexes Compton while Jacobs is still hanging on his back. Now THAT was awesome. Triple KO, and here’s Kevin Steen out from the crowd, McGuiness gives the OK for him to replace Lethal. Elgin makes the hot tag and Steen is a house of fire, tossing around the heels like ragdolls, then hits both of them with the cannonball. The ass-whoopin continues on the floor with both heels just getting launched into the barricade, then Steen powerbombs Jacobs on the edge of the ring. Elgin hits him with the bucklebomb, but Compton clips Elgin’s knee when he tries the spinning powerbomb. Steen tosses Jacobs over the top for yet another nice bump and powerbombs Compton, but Jacobs sneaks back in to roll him up while he’s going for the package piledriver to finish at 20:06. ****, not the most technically proficient match for sure, but this was a wild brawl with crazy bumping from the heel side and nuclear heat, not to mention the insane power moves from Elgin. The clean finish certainly helps too. I don’t see anything else tonight being able to touch this one.

Intermission, clips of El Generico/Taiji Ishimori and Paul London/Michael Shane matches are shown. Man, those old ROH commentators were terrible…

QT Marshall and RD Evans join us for a cheap heat promo, insulting the Canadian anthem and getting Toronto confused with Montreal. They also complain about reDRagon not defending the tag titles at this show (something I was wondering about myself, though I can’t say that I’m disappointed in not seeing Bobby Fish) before the lights go out and Tomaso Ciampa makes his return, getting a better entrance than anyone that’s actually wrestling on this card. Marshall attacks, Ciampa kicks his ass but Evans gets him out of harm’s way before any real damage is done. Hopefully this feud is over quick and they can move Ciampa on to someone worthwhile.

Eddie Edwards vs. Taiji Ishimori: I know absolutely nothing about Ishimori, though as the clips during the intermission show he’s worked for ROH in the past, and according to the commentators these guys have ran into each other before in NOAH. He’s also the GHC junior champ, though that title is obviously not on the line here. Both guys play to the crowd before locking up and doing some rather acrobatic chain wrestling. Edwards gets dumped on a headscissors and Ishimori tries the Tiger Pass (619, basically) but misses. More chain wrestling, Edwards ends up on the floor again thanks to a headscissors and Ishimori hits him with a gorgeous moonsault from the top rope. Back in the ring Ishimori grabs a chinlock, but he’s Japanese so it actually looks painful. He gets backdropped to the apron on a blind charge and a jumping enziguri sends him to the floor, Edwards follows with the ROH staple, the dive through the ropes. I swear that everyone in the company does that spot except for Steen and Elgin, and if they could fit between the ropes I’m sure they’d be doing it too. Anyway, Edwards rolls Ishimori back in for a 2 count, then hits a nasty Shining Wizard. Snap suplex for 2, a chop battle breaks out and Edwards wins that easily, but he runs into a boot on a blind charge. Ishimori goes up top but gets nailed with an enziguri and Edwards hits the Chinchecker for 2, then turns it into the Achilles lock, Ishimori makes it to the ropes. Now a forearm battle, this works out better for Ishimori and he hits a nice handspring kick, then a painful looking double-stomp for 2. He comes off the top with a move I can’t even really describe for 2, then tries the handspring kick again but Edwards catches him and drops him on his face. Edwards throws about 20 chops in the corner, a knee to the face and a brainbuster gets 2.9. He tries a German but Ishimori lands on his feet only to run into a Tombstone attempt, Ishimori reverses it into one of his own but he drops Edwards face-first into his knees rather than piledriving him. He blasts him with a kick to the face for 2, he tries a top rope rana but can’t land it and they do a cradle reversal sequence. Ishimori lands a beautiful reverse rana and Edwards actually has the nerve to no-sell it (there’s some moves that should never be no-sold, and that’s one of them) and a clothesline with the 360 sell by Ishimori gives us the double KO. Another forearm battle goes Ishimori’s way so Edwards goes back to the chopping, but Ishimori hits a great superkick and a brutal kick to the face for another near fall. He tries the 450 (his finisher) but takes too long and gets nothing but knees. He goes up top again, but Edwards catches him and hits the super rana. Nasty powerbomb and a Ligerbomb by Edwards for 2, Die Hard Driver (a Northern Lights bomb variation) finishes it at 15:44. Hey, let’s put on a good match just for the sake of putting on a good match, what a concept… ***1/2, I can’t in good conscience go any higher when neither guy would sell anything for more than 5 seconds. I will say that Ishimori looked GREAT here, and if WWE ever gets serious about bringing back the cruiserweight division he should be one of the first people they call.

ROH TV Title: Mark Briscoe vs. Matt Taven (C) (w/ Truth Martini, Scarlett Bordeaux, and some other chick): Taven is wearing the belt like Johnny Nitro used to. Crowd is solidly behind Mark, obviously. Back-and-forth technical stuff to start (headlock, wristlock, etc…), with the camera focusing more on the girls than the match. Mark hits a wheel kick and Taven bails. Fuck, this is going to be just like the match with Adam Cole, isn’t it? Taven burns some time fixing his headband before getting back in the ring. Taven misses an enziguri and Mark pounds away, crowd chants “Fuck him up”. Mark gets a belly-to-belly and Taven bails again, Mark dropkicks him through the ropes and follows him out and sends Taven to the barricade. He suplexes Taven from the floor to the apron, then hops back in and dropkicks Taven to the floor again when he tries to get back in the ring. Another suplex on the apron, then a scoop slam on the floor. Does Mark realize that he needs to win this in the ring? He goes up top, but Bordeaux distracts the ref and Martini knocks him off. Taven gets Divorce Court for 2 and goes to the arm, then hits a spinning boot for 2. Mark flips out of a suplex and goes to his usual terrible striking, but gets distracted by Martini and nailed with a spinkick. Vertical suplex and a twisting springboard senton gets 2 for Taven. Mark comes back with more redneck kung-fu and a suplex into the corner for 2, but the froggy elbow hits the knees. Taven hits a neckbreaker for 2 and goes up top but takes too long, Iconoclasm by Mark is blocked but he still manages to hit a powerbomb for 2. Taven tries a springboard something but botches it (with the required “You fucked up!” chant) and eats a spinebuster, Mark stalls while they figure out what to do. He gets a DVD, Martini tries to take his head off with the Book of Truth but misses, and the 2 girls distract the ref (and Mark) by making out. If I saw Scarlett Bordeaux making out with another chick 3 feet away from me I’d forget about the match too. Taven rolls Mark up while holding the shorts to finish at 13:45. *, these guys never had a chance thanks to the booking, and as long as Taven is paired with Martini his matches will continue to suck. Does ROH realize that Taven can actually work and doesn’t need the circus at ringside to cover up his deficiencies?

Davey Richards vs. Paul London: This was originally supposed to be Richards vs. Naomichi Marufuji, but Marufuji injured his knee in Japan and London (who shakes hands with or hugs everyone at ringside) will take his place. He’s in good shape, and clearly really happy to be here, though he’ll regret it later on. They fight over a wristlock as the fans get into the dueling chants. They then get into a crowd-killing submission reversal sequence. Now some stalling, and at this point I’m thinking that the S.C.U.M. match should have gone on here, especially with the 2 Canadians in that match. A cris-cross ends with a London rollup for 2, both guys do armdrag-related stuff before stalling some more (though I will say that Davey’s facial expression here is hilarious). London tries for the third handshake of the match, Richards declines so London dropkicks him and he bails. Yeah, that’s just what this match needs. Back in London gets backdropped to the apron and slingshots back in with a shitty headscissors, then gets tossed to the floor, landing on a photographer at ringside (she’s OK). Richards hits the kick from the apron, back in he throws kicks in between standing around. Another cris-cross ends with Richards landing on his face (looked like a botch, but I can’t be sure), then running into an atomic drop. A headscissors sends Richards to the apron, London tries to springboard out but eats an enziguri and Richards fucks off some more. Now an Indian deathlock that gets turned into a 2 count, and Davey plays to the crowd some more. London lands on feet after a backdrop and hits a wheelkick and Richards bails AGAIN, London follows him out with a somersault dive to at least try and bring this above DUD (SPOILER ALERT: It didn’t work). Back in London gets a slingshot cradle for 2 and a standing shooting star press, Richards runs into a boot on a blind charge and London gets a double stomp for 2. Richards runs into another boot but no-sells it and hits a kick to the face and a German for 2. Forearm battle ends with London getting a superkick and a dragon suplex for 2, Richards comes back with a kick that sends London rolling to the apron, and Richards tombstones him on the floor. Fans chant “This is awesome!” They must be drunk (after all, it is Toronto), because this match is fucking awful. London makes it back in at 19, Richards hits a baseball slide and goes upstairs, but he fucks up the double-stomp and lands right on London’s face, giving him a concussion. Crowd chants “You killed Paul” as Richards puts London on the top rope (after another minute or so of standing around, though at least here it’s warranted) but ends up taking a sunset flip powerbomb, London (barely) gets to the top rope but the SSP hits the knees and Richards wins it with a cradle at 18:00, about 12:00 of which was just standing around, or at least it felt that way. Boring and sloppy, this was just a terrible match, and it’s not like these two are green rookies or anything. DUD, bordering on negative stars, and Davey should be fucking ashamed of himself. He gives props to London after the match, if he really had any respect for him he should have actually put in some effort here.

Cole/Briscoe hype package is shown.

ROH World Title: Adam Cole vs. Jay Briscoe (C): I already said everything I have to say about Jay’s recent ignorant remarks about homosexuals in the Wrestlemania 26 thread a couple days ago, so I won’t bother getting into it here. Same old chain wrestling to start, Cole takes a shoulderblock and bails to the outside. Back in for more chain wrestling, and the crowd is dead. Jay pounds away in the corner, a couple headbutts and a back elbow get a 2 count. He goes back to the stomping in the corner but gets backdropped to the apron on a blind charge and Cole hits a jumping enziguri to send him to the floor. Cole follows with the dive through the ropes (of course), he tosses Jay back in and hits a crossbody from the top for 2. He gets a snapmare and throws knees to Jay’s back, a running seated dropkick gets 2. He grabs a headlock, Jay gets free and hits a full nelson slam. Scoop slam and a running legdrop get 2 for Jay, snap suplex gets 2 and we hit the chinlock. Cole makes it to the ropes. Jay runs into a boot and Cole hits a missile dropkick to the knee, then hooks the ringpost figure 4. It’s been a while since I’ve seen that… Cole starts working the knee, Jay gets to the ropes and they slug it out as the commentators foreshadow a heel turn by Cole. Jay does the Road Dogg punches, Cole goes back to the knee but gets dropped into the middle turnbuckle. Boot to the face and a rolling elbow get 2 for Jay. He puts his head down and eats a kick, Cole hits a fireman’s carry into a backbreaker for 2, crowd still doesn’t care. Cole tries for the figure 4, Jay blocks it and tries something off the top but dives right into a superkick. Cole tries coming off the ropes but Jay is right there with a shoulderblock and the falcon arrow gets 2. He tries for the Jay Driller (Tiger Driver 91) but the knee can’t take it and Cole hits a vertical suplex into a neckbreaker for 2. Jay bails to the apron, Cole follows but takes a DVD, and both guys are out on the floor. Jay is up first and he tosses Cole back in, a Yazuka kick and a neckbreaker gets 2. Jay Driller attempt #2 is reversed to the figure 4, Jay makes the ropes. Jay goes upstairs, Cole follows with a German from the top. Superkick, superkick to the back of the head, Cole gets the Florida Key but Jay kicks out. Back to the figure 4, Jay makes the ropes, Cole tries it again but Jay kicks him off and the ref gets bumped. And here’s Corino to toss Cole a S.C.U.M. shirt, McGuiness crotches Corino on the top rope and hits him with the Tower of London while Cole considers the offer. Jay Driller on the distracted Cole and Briscoe retains at 19:59, a decision that ROH officials surely regretted a few days later. **1/2, this would have been fine for a TV match, as a PPV main not so much. Almost no heat either, though I’d blame that more on the length of the show and the 2 shitty matches preceding this than the performance of Cole and Briscoe. They shake hands after the match, Cole teases turning on Jay but doesn’t go through with it.

Final thoughts: The S.C.U.M. match was great, Edwards/Ishimori was really good (albeit meaningless), the rest was either totally forgettable or complete crap, and the crowd was shot by the time the main event rolled around. They could have easily cut out at least a half hour out of this show (starting with Richards/London), and it would have been better for it.

Check out S.C.U.M. vs. Elgin/Lethal/Steen and Edwards vs. Ishimori if you can find them, but they weren’t enough to save this show. Not recommended.

Comments

  1. What was the issue with Briscoe? Injury issue, or the whole twitter "scandal" thing? Or is there something else I'm missing?

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  2. Letting London attempt a ssp after getting knocked out was uncalled for. It was 100% obvious he was out of it. I'm sure he said he wanted to continue but he doesn't get to make that call.

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  3. That was ridiculous, they should have had Davey just pin him after the blown spot, or the ref should have just called it right there.

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  4. What do you mean?

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  5. Maybe I misunderstood the "a decision that ROH officials surely regretted a few days later" in reference to the end of the Briscoe/Cole match. Why are they regretting it?

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  6. This show took place about a 40 minute public transit ride from me and I bailed on watching... thinking that I made the right choice. I feel justified in my decision.

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  7. Oh, that. Yeah, I was referring to the Twitter thing. It's one thing to have some random guy on your roster do something like that, it's a whole other thing when he's your top guy.

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  8. I'm curious as to how bad Richards/London really could've been considering the participants, because I think you have a bias against Davey that I don't agree with. Just from the move descriptions it sounds like it had to be above Dud level. I'm biased toward Davey (in ring) and definitely toward London, so maybe I'm being generous, and I won't really be able to check it out to counter, but I'm curious to know what everyone else thinks.

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  9. I didn't think it was a DUD at all. I'd go about ***. London didn't look bad but wasn't in shape to go more than ten minutes. He was winded an that was the reason it was slower-paced.

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  10. I've actually backed off on my Davey hate lately, in fact I've thorughly enjoyed his work when he tags with Edwards. I guess I didn't express how much satlling he did, or just how fucking BORING that match was. He came across like he didn't even want to be there. Put it this way: the main went about the same amount of time and felt like 10 minutes, this felt like an hour. I will say that I don't blame London at all for it being shitty, he tried his best but there's not much you can do when you spend most of the match on you back.

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  11. Takes two to tango.

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  12. Match was pretty decent. ***ish. London was horrible trying to keep up with the stud hottie Davey Richads.

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  13. Fuck, at least it'd get the double stomp over.


    DAVEY RICHARDS' STOMPS KILL YOU DEAD!!!!

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  14. You could've presented it as more boring. Cause from the list of moves described it sounds pretty exciting.

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  15. Well, London's lack of cardio is to be expected.


    Hey hey hey hey...............smoke weed everyday.

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  16. Sounds like you need more Ryback vs. Kane.

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  17. Oh yeah and CM Punk telling a fan to kill himself is right? You are such a hypocrite horrible writer.

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  18. I honestly don't understand why you continue to review ROH when you seem to dislike it so much. I'm not saying you're not allowed to have an opinion, but why spend time on something you clearly dislike?

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  19. Cheetos aren't exactly filled with good carbs either.

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  20. It could be that London had a concussion.

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  21. This company sucks. Their two biggest stars are pieces of garbage who threaten people regarding their lifestyle choices (Briscoe) and stop wrestling in the middle of a match to use homosexual slurs against fans (Steen).

    Stay classy, ROH.

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  22. To be fair, the same could be said about Scott reviewing Raw. But I guess people here like to read it so he continues to torture himself for our pleasure.
    But really, Raw's biggest problem is the 3 hour length and overall inconsistency plus the SAME MATCHES OVER AND OVER AGAIN for the past few months now. At least the wrestilng quality still ranges from passable to very good.

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  23. That's odd from Steen. In the past he's been known to kiss and lick guys in the audience who say that kind of shit at him.

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  24. I would assume it's like a band that you really used to like, but haven't liked their new stuff. You are a fan of them and know they are capable of better. You get occasional glimpses of what made you really dig it in the first place, and you just keep hoping they can get things back on track and start clicking with you again.

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  25. It wasn't very good. DUD is a little low, but it wasn't much beyond ** to me. But, to be fair, I don't like Davey very much at all, so he is always fighting an uphill battle with me.

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  26. Not really sure what you mean. Of course when an athlete gets hurt they want to keep going, but someone has to step in. Davey, the ref, Nigel, someone from the back... There is no way he should have been allowed to try a spot like that. No one watching would have complained if they stopped the match then. It's not even like it was a title match and the wrong guy would have won. It was a nothing match and the guy who was injured was losing any way. You've got to put someone's health over finishing the last 3 minutes of a wrestling match in that situation.

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  27. That really did come out of nowhere.


    "Man, I really hate asparagus."


    "NAZI!!!!"

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  28. Mr. Engel doesn't know the difference between shoots and works.


    Steen is old school. Him calling people faggots and telling them he fucked their mother is just an attempt to get heel heat.

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  29. I had this relationship with Weezer for a very long time. Raditude finally put my faith out of its misery though.

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  30. So he's not homophobic, he's just unoriginal.

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  31. YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

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  32. He got the concussion in the last two minutes of the match, not the first ten.

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  33. I was referring to it all not being Davey's fault. The ref, Nigel, people in the back, etc. could have stopped the bout.

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  34. idk ... the SSP by London made me laugh. ROH is such an unprofessional company.

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  35. I've read the recap of the opener a few times, and it just hit me why it was good. Iesha and Shaniqua didn't try Total Elimination. See how that works, guys? You can't do a move well, you don't do it, good things happen.

    Cheesburger has an actual name, can we start using it? The guy who dubbed him that got cut loose. (Haas)

    Titus/Blowjob was a bad idea from the start, making it I quit didn't help things. I see where they were going with the finish (trying to paint SCUM up as a hiveminded cult) but they didn't get there. Although Rhett getting his ass kicked during the start of the tag match while zipped to the ropes was pretty funny.

    The ROH v. SCUM tag match worked on a lot of levels. Made everyone look good, Steen now has this "Is he REALLY out of SCUM?" vibe, Corino's back on commentary......OK, that last one is debateable. Plus, they have a way to tease a little dissention in the ranks: Corino wants Hardy to get the title shot, but it was Jacobs that made the winning pin, on the former champ no less, so shouldn't HE get the shot?



    Did the Wolves need separate matches? Especially with Richards/London turning ugly thanks to an errant stomp. (It wasn't a bad match up to that point, but yeah, no way should the ref have let Paul try the SSP. Even if he did want to finish the match. That's a "take charge" moment right there, and the ref blew it.)


    THE DOMINANT MALE RETURNS! (Hopefully with a new finisher, no way Project Ciampa can be good for his knees.)


    I get why Taven's with Martini (he's not a good promo) but can we limit the mob that goes to ringside with him? Simon Diamond called, something about a cease and desist order.


    And then, the main. I said it about Cole before, I'll say it again: He's good, but he's not ready for prime time just yet. As for Jay, if he were WWE champ and he had pulled that shit on Twitter, he'dve lost the title at a house show and been sent home (or at least to sensitivity training) Just saying.

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  36. It's wrestling. You have to make peace with what it is.

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  37. I said Cheetos, not Red Hot Cheetos, that's a super food.

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  38. Not really, Adam was WAY under on Richards and London.
    BJ vs Rhett was AWESOME live, the whole crowd shit all over and it was so Much fun
    Edwards and ishimori did a *little* more selling the he gave them credit for
    Main was bad. He was right about that

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  39. To be fair, I wouldn't be happy if someone started talking shit about Bryan Danielson's dog either.

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  40. ACH/Thomas v. Coleman & Alexander- 3.0 Solid opener, ACH is really over everywhere he goes. Is it too early to give him a TV title feud with Taven? I don't think so.
    Bennett v. Strong- 2.25 Meh, not much of anything here, neither guy is doing anything worthwhile right now. Bennett looked... weird.
    Titus v. Whitmer- 1.5 Bleh. Titus needs a tag partner, tag teaming hides his weaknesses.
    Jacobs/Compton v. Lethal/Elgin (& Steen)- 3.25 Good stuff, I kinda wish they kept Titus tied up in the ropes throughout the match. Elgin's great. He should have Big E Langston's role in the WWE.
    Edwards v. Ishimori- 3.75 Liked this a lot, didn't think there was too much no selling. Just a good, solid match. Loved Ishimori's gear.
    Mark Briscoe v. Taven- 2.75 Decent match until the ending which was a bit silly. Taven should've just gone over clean here. Mark Briscoe can carry a singles match, how 'bout that.
    Richards v. London- 3.0 I thought this was fine. Definitely should've stopped the match after Richards stomped on London's face. Richards was weirdly pandering to the crowd throughout the match.

    Cole v. Mark Briscoe- 3.25 Match never really got going. I like that their giving Cole's character some shades of gray. I don't want him joining SCUM but he needs some attitude or something.


    Yeah, kind of a meh PPV. ROH could really do with 6 PPVs per year. And they should find something worthwhile to do with Edwards, Richards, & Strong.

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  41. Words wouldn't be enough.

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  42. Regardless of what you think of the Briscoe's as people, I think they're really good pro wrestlers in almost every aspect of the game.

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  43. I agree on project Ciampa. Its fun to look at, but its gotta be painful for both guys. And his repeated knee strikes to the head is both more vicious and unique. And safer.

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