More News on CM Punk Challenging the Fan on RAW
According to Mike Johnson from PWInsider.com, he asked around about the incident and said that it was not scripted. He also was told from other fans nearby the fan that he did not say anything considered to be over the top. Johnson was also told from those backstage that Punk was in a "grumpy" mood all night long.
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
WWE Talent Being Told to Work Harder in Order to Help the Company during John Cena's Absence.
They are also being told that this is their chance to make a name for themselves. Also, it was reproted that talent was told Cena will probably be out until the Royal Rumble.
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
"Money in the Bank" PPV Buyrate Totals
The show drew 146,000 buys in North America and 46,000 overseas.
SoCal Val the Latest Casualty from TNA
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Oh god how I wanted that guy to rush the ring and to see Punk's reaction. Was I the only one who found Punk's rant against him stupid, considering Punk knew he was challenging a guy who would be swarmed by security if he even thought about jumping over, and yet it was the guy who had no balls apparently?
ReplyDeleteRE: People need to step up while Cena is out.
ReplyDeleteGotta love bosses that say obvious things. My favorite in my line of work is, let's write a good proposal and win it! Well, that is brilliant, why didn't I think of that!?!?
Yeah, I don't worry too much about it.
ReplyDeleteI think that if I were in that position, I'd be thrilled to have Punk interact with me on television.
ReplyDeleteAlright guys. I think we should cure cancer. So get on that Ok?
ReplyDelete"Grumpy"?
ReplyDeleteGrown men cannot be calling other grown men "grumpy."
I think the more important part of it was that they can make a name for themselves. I think Cena is going to take real time off for the first time in forever.
ReplyDeleteCranky is what you call adults.
ReplyDeleteMe too. And I thought it played well to his character. It was so much anti-Cena in the sense that he wasn't giggly and grinning after a loss.
ReplyDeleteEven if security had let the guy in I think 99% of the roster and most of the Divas could have kicked the guy's ass.
ReplyDeleteOr "sore." I like when people still use sore.
ReplyDeletewell yeah, it was stupid, but it got the point across that Punk was in a foul mood and it fired up the crowd.
ReplyDeleteAs someone who recently started doing yoga sore is much more of a physical than emotional description for me now.
ReplyDeleteI watched Raw this week on Youtube so I couldn't really see what the guy looked like, or the expression on his face.
ReplyDeleteGood on you. Yoga is one of those deceptively difficult things in life. I went through a stretch in 2006 where I did it constantly and never felt better.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I was 323 pounds in September of 2009 and got down to 205 in June of 2010 but my weight has been creeping up again. Running was starting to get rough on my knees so I wanted something lower impact. I haven't tried bikram or other hot yoga yet but you never realize how little you work your hips until you do yoga.
ReplyDeleteDamn, congratulations on the weight loss.
ReplyDeleteHe was in average shape, a little doughy. But the WWE roster is in amazing shape, I'm willing to bet that they could beat up 99% of the fans at any given show. If I tried to fight CM Punk I'd wake up to the soothing tone of an EKG machine.
ReplyDeleteYeah, step up and replace John Cena while he's gone so we can break your legs and bury you later once all the "real stars" come back. Fuck you.
ReplyDeleteThank you! I've put about 40 pounds back on but I lost it through reduced calorie intake (I don't think I went over a thousand calories regularly before Valentine's Day) and walking/jogging six days a week for 2.5 miles.
ReplyDeleteThe WWE is not going to throw a guy who's drawing aside for Cena.
ReplyDeleteI SO want to believe you right now.
ReplyDeleteOy vey.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I've been in a grumpy mood all night long.
ReplyDeleteWelp, time to wait on Val to gain about 15 lbs of depression weight and make my move...
ReplyDeleteWe've heard this a million times before. "It's your responsibility to get over," "Take control, "Step up..." And guys do, then what happens?
ReplyDeleteI hope no fat guys boo you.
ReplyDeleteHow come we never got backstage news about what all those fat guys said to Ric Flair that made him snap so much?
ReplyDeleteMy knees are shit, so running doesn't work for me. I started riding a bike, though and that's been working really well for me.
ReplyDeleteYea, wrestlers yelling stuff at you is awesome.
ReplyDeleteI just read an article that said Cena rehab time will be shorter than normal. I guess the doctors ̶o̶n̶ ̶K̶r̶y̶p̶t̶o̶n̶ at the hospital know what they are doing.
ReplyDelete"You, Strawberry, hit a home run!"
ReplyDeleteNice. I'd recommend yoga, if you do it right it's great.
ReplyDeleteWell, in CM Punk's case they stay a part of the permanent main event class and Daniel Bryan is the focal point of the promotion. If business is up with someone other than Cena they're not going to push Cena instead. It doesn't make business sense.
ReplyDeletePilates too. I go to classes with my wife. More intense workout than yoga and the chicks are generally hotter.
ReplyDeleteI'm one of two or three guys in my class. I love yoga because my uncoordinated lumpy ass isn't judged or even paid attention to. It's AWESOME. It's like the opposite of crossfit.
ReplyDeleteYeah and in Zack Ryders case, well.....
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/YUXjoInekU4
Also, I know this is corny but people need to be active fans. I've bought a CM Punk shirt, I'm going to buy a Daniel Bryan one. I've written a couple of emails to the WWE saying I bought a live event ticket to see Daniel Bryan and that I bought Wrestlemania to watch Punk wrestle Taker. It probably doesn't make a difference but it takes a few seconds and it doesn't hurt.
ReplyDeleteoffer her some biscuit~
ReplyDeleteif ya know what I mean
Thankfully, the fan knew better than to take Punk up on his offer, because that dude would have been on the wrong end of an ass-whupping otherwise. I understand what Punk was going for, but his rant went a little further than the typical "shut your mouth, fat boy" that Flair used to do to people, and he may have put some people at risk. Look at what happened to Orton on their tour of, what was it, South Africa?
ReplyDeleteIt did make for a pretty awesome moment on Raw, though...
Zack Ryder was always going to be a midcarder. I'm not a huge Ryder fan.
ReplyDelete'Grown men cannot be calling other grown men "grumpy."'
ReplyDeletesomeone sounds grumpy
it's still real to punk, dammit
ReplyDeleteWell now I am grumpy.
ReplyDeleteThanks a lot.
'It probably doesn't make a difference but it takes a few seconds and it doesn't hurt.'
ReplyDeletewhat if you have paper cuts on the tips of your fingers?
hurts like hell
You don't have voice recognition software? What're you? Amish?
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/JLwrsuqbmxg
ReplyDeleteCranky is what you call a baby with diaper rash.
ReplyDeleteIf I had to work the next day after getting my ass kicked by [Paul Heyman voice]BROCK LESNAR[/Paul Heyman voice] I wouldn't be giggle and grinning either.
ReplyDeleteI like to use ornery.
ReplyDeleteWrestlers used to mix it up with the live audience all the time. Who cares.
ReplyDeleteJudging by that pic I saw Val Venis put on MORE than 15 pounds..
ReplyDelete..oh you meant SoCalVal??
I don't know about the putting anyone at risk you mentioned. What happened to Orton happened before this promo, so what led to that? Sometimes, you can't explain dumb peoples behavior.
ReplyDeleteAnd you can't predict dumb people's behavior when they get antagonized, s'all I'm saying.
ReplyDeleteHis point was that the guy was booing cause he knew he never had to answer for it. So Punk calling him out and daring him to get in the ring is the same thing, since he knows security would never let the guy through.
ReplyDeleteSo you cut out a cool thing that happens at live wrestling shows because some people are dumb?
ReplyDeleteThe terrorists have won.
..so does Yosemite Sam.
ReplyDeleteAttention everybody... um... oh..... WORK HARDER! Bye.
ReplyDeleteHis dick. You mean his dick.
ReplyDeleteThe Homer Simpson school of management.
ReplyDeleteNow you're starting to get it!
ReplyDeleteLet's be honest here, and I'm coming around to it now later than most:
ReplyDeleteRyder COULD have stayed over despite all the burial type shit they gave him. He wrestled a LONGER match than Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania 28, and yet here's Bryan now as the focal point of the company, compared to Ryder who's lucky to job on Superstars.
"Step up while Cena's gone".
ReplyDeleteThey say that as if these guys control the way they are booked. Sometimes these companies sound like bigger marks than the marks
Strawberry: You're pinch-hitting for me?
ReplyDeleteBurns: Yes, you see you're a left-hander and so is the pitcher. If I send up a right-handed batter it's called playing the percentages. It's what smart managers do to win ballgames.
Strawberry: But I hit nine home runs today.
Burns: You should be very proud of yourself. Sit down.
Sometimes they get pushed to the moon, like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk. Stop whining.
ReplyDeleteno brah.
ReplyDeletejust am-ish
pure 100% am
They can still step up in terms of doing the best with what they've been given.
ReplyDeleteI watched that Joker's Wild One Night Only ppv... Your time is now!
ReplyDeleteAnd if they are given shit, are they supposed to serve up a shit sandwich with all the fixin's?
ReplyDeleteWell John Cena was given shit at the start of his career, he made the most of it. On the other hand someone like Curtis Axel is given airtime with Heyman/Cena/Punk and does nothing memorable whatsoever. Make the most of what you're given and maybe they'll think you're worth involving in stuff that isn't shit.
ReplyDeleteEdit: see LAD's response below. Better than I could have written.
ReplyDeleteLOL...
ReplyDeleteThat's because Bryan is one of the best wrestlers on the planet and Ryder completely sucks.
ReplyDeleteBTW, am I the only one that thinks of Ryder from San Andreas anytime I see his name? Shermhead asshole...
you dont know what i mean
ReplyDeletemaybe biscuit whips up a great batch of pillsbury grands
after he whips out his biscuit
wait, why are we talkin' 'bout biscuit's biscuit?
cause it must be done, thats why
Jack Lemmon and Walter Mathau would beg to differ.
ReplyDeleteDaniel Bryan lost in 18 seconds at Wrestlemania, got stuck in a goofy love square with Punk, Kane, and AJ, took anger management classes with Kane, became wacky tag team partners with him, etc. etc. etc.
ReplyDeleteApparently Val was making over $100,000 a year. Yeah this company is on the right track...
ReplyDeleteUnreal. And did nothing for a decade. And wasn't even attractive.
ReplyDeleteEven Lanny Poffo is shaking his head.
Hell, Dusty got over hugely dressed in polka dots, designed just to make him look foolish.
ReplyDeleteAnd that lame Ringmaster guy... whatever happened to him?
CM Punk was jobbed to Triple H only two months after his push started. Keep in mind this was after a year of straight PPV losses. Then he got his Title back, but was never in the main even, because John Laurenitis and embracing the hate was more important. For awhile it felt like he had the Intercontinental Belt. CM Punk managed to keep himself over in spite of all that, not because he "was pushed to the moon."
ReplyDeleteWrestlers shout stuff at me all the time.
ReplyDelete"Leave me alone when I'm eating."
"Get out of my garden."
As much as Ryder has a legit gripe at how he was used during/after the whole US Title chase fiasco, the fact he got himself so over in the first place is probably the only reason he's still got a job.
ReplyDeleteLet's face it, he's made no waves for well over a year now, but he's still there, picking up a paycheque and wrestling live events. Better to be a Ryder, Tatsu or Camacho than selling t-shirts and 10x8s out of your trunk.
If all you're being given is a gimmick where you follow one of the Total Divas girls around and clean up her dog's shit off the ground with the occasional squash on Superstars losing to Kofi Kingston in three minutes, you COMMIT to cleaning up that shit, be the best and most convincing shit-cleaner you can be and you make Kofi look like a god for three minutes.
ReplyDeleteIt actually DOESN'T matter if you're given shit. You take that shit and you bust your ass and do everything you possibly can to turn that shit into cold lemonade on a hot summer day.
If you're not going to do that, quit the company and go back to the indies or find a new line of work. Half-assing it because you feel you deserve better or that creative are morons who don't deserve your best efforts is just going to result in awful matches that drag down anyone associated with/wrestling you.
Eat your shit sandwich with a smile or leave the restaurant. Grumpily munching on it and complaining to anyone in earshot isn't do anyone any favors.
I still maintain that Ryder was victimized by a storyline written by writers who honestly and truly thought they were helping him. I truly believe that somewhere along the line, they lost the exact location of the line between sympathetic and just pathetic.
ReplyDeleteNot to defend TNA (fuck TNA), but the fact that they're cutting her loose is a step in the right direction.
ReplyDeleteThat's because he always has. I think this time is different. WM is way off on the horizon and Orton has the belt and a feud. Cena doesn't NEED to be there.
ReplyDeleteI think Cena really intended to take time off after the Lesnar match at ER, but was convinced by the company to stick around after the fact. It explains the arm injury he's had for a while, the way he was selling the arm (as a "result" of the kimura[s] in the match) and the post match promo that sounded like a legit goodbye.
I believe that most people would have trouble whooping any wrestler's ass just because:
ReplyDelete1. As a wrestler, you need to be able to ignore some pretty serious pain as a normal reaction
2. in CM Punk's case, he does train MMA. Bodyslams and samoan drops aren't helpful in real life combat, but keylocks and knees to the fucking head are.
Obviously, any fan could score a lucky flash KO on a wrestler just as anyone could on anyone else, but that's nothing to bank on.
Did he make the most of it? I thought the narrative was that he was a jobber who was on the road to future endeavors until he came up with the freestyle gimmick.
ReplyDeleteShe did a lot of behind the scenes stuff.
ReplyDeleteHi, HHH!.
ReplyDeleteAlmost beating Kurt Angle in your first match is now considered shit?
ReplyDeleteYeah, she was a producer. Not like TNA was well produced, but it's not like she was just some hot chick they paid.
ReplyDelete*in-the-behind stuff
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to use the term shit sandwich because it brought Spinal Tap to mind because of the kayfabe review of their album Shark Sandwich
ReplyDeleteSorry about that post. Like I said in another reply, I just wanted to use the term shit sandwich as a callout to Spinal Tap
ReplyDeleteI picture a sitcom between you two. You're the straight-laced guy, and he's the wacky neighbour.
ReplyDeleteMah time is up, your time is now-now
ReplyDeleteHaha, but this how the industry works and (to an extent, as is the nature of business evolving) has always worked.
ReplyDeleteThat's awesome lol
ReplyDeleteLol...for some reason now I'm picturing Mark Henry as Big Smoke
ReplyDeleteHey he may have been Wildcat Willie ya know
ReplyDeleteGood on you and Phillippe. I watched that episode the other night when a Ken Griffey Jr. retirement/fellatio ceremony before they played the Brewers got too nauseating. A true classic.
ReplyDeleteTime to unhinder Jinder. Bring the turban o' money back.
ReplyDeleteyeah, the only time for gigglin' and grinnin' is for when "OMG I THINK SHE LIKES ME~'
ReplyDelete'you're not my regular gyno!'
ReplyDelete'He was in average shape'
ReplyDeleteaverage height, average weight, average carpentry skillz
Yo Parallex, you're up.
ReplyDeleteWhich is more embarrassing publicity for TNA: The neverending cuts or the public face of the company, Hulk Hogan recently losing an arm-wrestling match to a crack smoking mayor?
ReplyDeleteBut was he wearing Tom Landry' s hat?
ReplyDeleteOh man, I so want to Zach's knock-off MOO MOO MOO, YOU THINK IT t-shirts.
ReplyDeleteIf you have access to a gym with a pool, water aerobics and/or swimming. You still get a great work out but the water removes the pressure on your joints.
ReplyDeleteHis booking wasn't nearly as bad as you make it sound. Jobbing to HHH was the stupidest (political) booking decision ever, but he was really protected in that match. And taking a backseat to bigger stars/matches despite being the champion is hardly a career-killer. It happened to Benoit, Triple H and others.
ReplyDeleteAs for his PPV losing streak, yeah that sucked, but he was facing guys like 'Taker, Mysterio and Orton in high-profile matches. Let's not forget that prior to that he was a four-time world champion despite only being in the company for a few years.
Saying that Punk was "pushed to the moon" is mostly inaccurate (although I think his recent WWE Championship run was the most protected a non-monster heel has been since Reign of Terror HHH), but the WWE's been pretty good to him over the years. The same's true for Bryan, actually.
Wow, 120 pounds over 9 months? That's pro.
ReplyDeleteBut you have to pronounce it "on'ry".
ReplyDeleteGoddamn, So Cal Val is a cutie.
ReplyDelete"but it's not like she was just some hot chick they paid."
ReplyDeleteYou're right, that's like 80 percent of the reason why they hired her and to their surprise she just happened to know how to produce shit.
Well yes, if you put it like that Dr. Jerk.
ReplyDeleteP.S. You're a jerk.
Being attractive is a good gig if you can get it.
ReplyDelete100K a year to produce TNA. I could produce TNA better than those guys, and I have one semester of TV production from a JC.
Mark Henry would be perfect for Big Smoke if they did a San Andreas movie, which is something they totally need to do. Even though I'm not Mexican, I nominate myself to play Caesar. You act she's your woman...
ReplyDeleteI could do a better job just on the fact that I've been watching wrestling for nearly 20 years. Though as an ROH fan,,, hey, look over there! (walks away)
ReplyDeleteThat's probably my favorite episode. "Here you go, sorry it's not in packets. You need cream, too?" "Um, no."
ReplyDeleteYou've been money lately. Fucking hilarious.
ReplyDeletebutterface but id still hit it
ReplyDeleteZack Ryder?
ReplyDeletehis whining is warranted
And that's perfectly fine.
ReplyDeleteThey need a midcard with characters you are emotionally invested in.
Not lovable losers, who just lose... ALL THE TIME.
Remember at Elimination Chamber when people went ape shit over Santino almost going the distance?
He is a midcarder and perfectly fine with that, but thats because people are emotionally invested into him and his character.
Not everybody is a main event talent or top guy.
But by cutting his off at the knees like that made absolutely no sense and was obviously a fuckjob because he used unconventional means to get over in the first place.
Then followed suit by putting more WWE produced vids on youtube.
What does Ryder get for him being a visionary?
Plenty of Job opportunities.
i like the term "butt-hurt"
ReplyDeleteShe's not the most gorgeous girl ever, but she's easily a 7, a strong 6 going by the face alone.
ReplyDeleteEasily.
ReplyDeleteIm just saying I thought she was the truth, until I went to MegaCon one year. I walked up to the booth and it was
Traci Brooks
SoCal Val
Gail Kim
Christy Hemme
This is pretty much my exact thoughts when I saw them up close and personal.
Traci Brooks- Damn her face isn't as tough as I see on tv, and HOLY SHIT those tits are fucking HUGE!
SoCal Val- That's it? This is what I was drooling over?! Meh.
Gail Kim- I dont like Asian chicks, but holy fuck can she get it.
Christy Hemme- I wanna rape her.
Hemme is insanely hot. You can hardly blame Aries for dry humping her face.
ReplyDeleteYou know who's held up really good? Lita. She's no kid either, and YOU KNOW she'll do anything in bed. I remember when she got the implants and went full slut with Edge, I would be out of my mind whenever she was on TV.
I think they are missing the boat on not giving Heath Slater a Honky Tonk Man like run where he's constantly weaseling his way out of matches and fans just want to see someone kick his ass.
ReplyDeleteYou actually think that was a shoot??? Lol omg its work because it was on tv
ReplyDeleteI was fucking with you. I agree that the business works likes this.
ReplyDeleteA solid b+
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't just bigger stars he took a back seat to. He took a back seat to Cena vs Kane in their terrible feud. He took a backseat to the terrible John Laurenitis and Big Show matches. I absolutely agree that Rock vs Cena and Cena vs Lesnar deserved the main event. However, there were times were it felt like John vs vs the villian of the month was like the NWO in late 90s WCW main events. The real main event happened before hand. This was true especially during the Punk -Bryan feud. They never got to close out a PPV once despite always stealing the show.
ReplyDeleteWell what Punk to do? Tell the phantom fat boy what he's gonna do to his woman?
ReplyDeleteSo if Mike Sanders fought him, he'd get his ass kicked?
ReplyDeleteYou can't print that!
ReplyDeleteCmon, he totally put that guy over
ReplyDelete