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QOTD - August 13th, 2013

Greetings.

Today's question comes from the elite team of the BoD MoD. We were in the BoDMoD upscale lounge the otherday, sipping champagne, and wearing our silk robes with the MoD monogram on them, when Flair4DaGold propositioned this question:

I'm going to steal this question from "That Metal Show", but I think it will drum up some good conversation.

What was the first album/cd that you bought with your own money?

I bought Twisted Sister's "Still Hungry" at K-Mart with lawn mowing money in 1984.  I mean, who wasn't into them around that time?  Plus, for a 9 year old, that cover was pretty rad.

My first CD was Public Enemy's "Fear of a Black Planet" around '91 when i finally decided to go all in on CDs. 

What about you?

First CD that I actually bought, I remember it like it was yesterday. Bone Thugs N Harmony - Est. 1999 Eternal. I'd been literally begging my mom for 2 months to get it. It had that Parental Advisory sticker on it, so she was weary. I had to tell her that the sticker wasn't just for swear words, it was because of things like violence, and drugs. I told her I was a smart kid, I wasn't going to be influenced by something like that. It was a total crock.

The day I got it...man, what a feeling. I was 12 at the time, and like you, a lawn mower. So I had $15 saved at all times for when she said yes. At that point when I got CD's, I just skipped to the hits, you know? But when I got Est. 1999, I sat in my room with my headphones on and listened to it from beginning to end 3 times. Still one of my all time favorite albums.

That Metal Show is a damn good show. If I had the money & resources, I'd love to do a wrestling show in that style, and just throw it up on youtube.

How say you?

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Comments

  1. I'm pretty sure the first CD I ever bought with my own money was Denis Leary's "No Cure For Cancer." I had already owned a copy on cassette, but wanted to have it for my new discman, too. I still quote his routine from that album to this day.


    In terms of actual music? It was probably Springsteen's greatest hits.

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  2. Def Leppard- Adrenalize

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  3. At age 11, I bought "Vulgar Display of Power" by Pantera.

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  4. The first tape I was ever given was a mix tape of 80s hair metal from my cousin. I didn't know that he had made it for me though, so the other half of the mix tape was hits from the Phantom of the Opera.
    The first tape I bought was the soundtrack to Pump up the Volume. I think I may have also bought the soundtrack to the second TMNT movie on the same day, but I can't be sure.
    The first CD I bought was. I feel like it was a Rush C.D. Permanent Waves I think, but I'm unsure. I was playing a lot of Magic the Gathering at the time so it would fit in well with the culture.
    The first CD I bought of a genre that I discovered on my own was Symbols by KMFDM. That set off my goth/industrial phase which lasted through my mid twenties. That sort of eased in 60s and 70s psychedelic music and riot grrrl groups.
    The first concert I ever went to was They Might Be Giants and Frank Black.

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  5. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    1st cd i ever bought was metal church's 'the human factor.' i was late to the cd game. album came out in 91 or 92 but i still didnt have a cd player yet of my own. but my folks had one downstairs so i was like "f it, ima just get it'


    hard to remember what cassette i actually bought on my own at 1st, though the 1st cassette i remember wanting/getting was ratt's 'out of the cellar'

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  6. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    ya know the annoying red hat sign guy who's always at wwe events?


    yeah, ive seen him on that metal show in the audience

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  7. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    You know, in 9th grade there were a group of guys who LOVED Pantera, as all Pantera fans do. I'd never heard a single note of them. I just knew they played metal. Well, my friend and I ordered an ECW PPV, and when RVD came out to Walk, I for some reason knew it was Pantera. I asked a friend the next day and yup.

    They're an interesting group with absolute die-hard fans. I was at a party once where someone had created a CFH [Cowboys From Hell] circular logo out of iron, and people were taking their turns branding each other with it after heating it up with a blow torch.

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  8. Metallica Black Album

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  9. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    I would have laid you to waste with my Zombie Deck. That shit was untouchable.

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  10. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    There was a mom & pop CD store that would sell albums to people of any age. They had a massive mark-up, but it was worth it so I could get 2Pac's All Eyez On Me.

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  11. The first CD I remember buying with my money was Smashing Pumpkins' "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness."
    I was a weird kid when it came to music; didn't really get into music at all until I was, like, 12. I liked some terrible rap- Vanilla Ice, Hammer; I actually saw Hammer in concert when I was 8- when I was 6-8 years old, but I really have no recollection of legitimately, seriously listening to music until maybe 6th grade. Then the floodgates opened.

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  12. You could recite Bill Hicks' material then, too.

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  13. Black Sabbath - Paranoid.

    Last year I got an original vinyl of it. It sounds unbelievable.

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  14. DoggyStyle in the 6th grade. 12.99 for the tape.

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  15. I guess I'm a rarity in that I have never purchased any sort of audio CD or tape ever. I don't even own an iPod.

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  16. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Man, I love that record. Ain't No Fun is one of the best rap songs of all time.

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  17. Yeah, I was 12 or 13 when I first heard "No Cure For Cancer," and I hadn't discovered Hicks yet. I've since corrected that.

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  18. The first tapes I got with allowance were Huey Lewis & The News "Sports", Public Enemy "Fear of a Black Planet" and Guns N' Roses "Appetite for Destruction". I think the first tapes I ever bought with money I actually worked for and earned were Nirvana "Nevermind", Pearl Jam "Ten", Green Day "Dookie" and Ugly Kid Joe "America's Least Wanted". I did one of those BMG things and got 8 tapes but can't remember what the others were for the life of me but those 4 stick out.

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  19. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    It was the same way for me. Neither of my parents were into pop-culture much. They honestly didn't own any tapes, CDs, or records. They didn't buy movies. So everything I'm into I discovered on my own. That's why I didn't see films like the Indiana Jones original trilogy, or Star Wars until my early 20's.

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  20. Funny. My first cassette tape was also "Stay Hungry" by Twisted Sister". My first CD was "Long Cold Winter" by Cinderella in 1988. Of course, now I visit record stores (they do still exist, and they are AWESOME) and pick up cheap used CD's all the time. I just picked up "Disintegration" by The Cure and 'Full Moon Fever" by Tom Petty; stuff I missed out on the first time around. Fuck digital, says I.

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  21. I would always find some obscure rule like banding or flanking and exploit the hell out of it.
    I don't believe I ever lost a game with my flanking deck.

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  22. Hard to pin down, but I want to say it was Pearl Jam's Vitalogy, which would've made me twelve years old. My cool uncle had given me Ten for the prior Christmas, and I loved it. So when I saw Vitalogy I had to have it. Still love the album, and the cool 20's medical booklet it came in.

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  23. That was one of the first albums I bought where after listening to it, I just sort of sat dumbfounded. I didn't understand any of it. I am happy to report that even with twenty more years of wisdom and experience, I still don't get what Vetter was trying to accomplish.

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  24. For real music, it was Sublime. I was in 7th grade.
    Several years before that I had saved up and bought both Animaniacs albums (which I still have!)

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  25. Man do I miss the BMG thing.

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  26. We thank you for your honesty.

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  27. In the early 90's I was a CD snob.. being a DJ I only bought vinyl or cassettes and I hated CD's for some ungodly reason. I used to get free CD's from artists and record companies and just tossed them in the corner to collect dust. The first CD I ever bought was a Spooky Sound Effects album that I needed for a Halloween party I was DJ'ing in 1994. I bit the bullet and bought a CD deck console player from Radio Shack. Now years later, I have thousands of CD's in boxes and I've sold even more in mixtape CD's over the years.. go figure.

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  28. ..and for your bravery. it can't be easy coming out of the closet online like that. It gets better..

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  29. OK, I'll play along with this one.


    First cassettes bought: Billy Joel's "An Innocent Man" and Phil Collins' "Face Value", back around 84. First cassette bought with my own money once I realized that in fact I was a fan of hard rock and not just what my parents exposed me to: The Cult's "Sonic Temple". I've since bought that one multiple times on CD. First actual CD I got was Alice Cooper's "Trash", when my parents got me a standalone CD player in 1989 as a gift and they thought that "Trash" was something I'd be into. They were right. First CD I bought on my own after that: Def Leppard's "Hysteria", because FUCK YEAH.

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  30. The first album I ever bought was a cassette tape of The Chronic. I bought it with some birthday money at a now defunct chain record store in my town, whose name I can't remember. I actuallyhad to buy the album twice, because my parents took it away from me. I used to walk our dog and listen to my walkman and my parents just randomly decided to see what I was listening to and immediately confiscated the tape. (Keep in mind I was in 5th grade and this was 1992 so my parents had barely even heard of rap much less were prepared for the lyrics.) After they took it I immediately replaced it with the CD. I was so young I had no idea that the big green leaf on the CD was a pot leaf. I still remember being in the 5th and 6th grades and quoting lines from the "20 dollar sack pyramid" with my friends, and I don't even think we knew what it meant. Made me a rap fan for life though, and I still like that album even though I find parts of it are a bit dated.

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  31. Soundgarden - Superunknown when I was 11...still one of my favorite albums.

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  32. Def Leppard - Adrenalize.
    I got my first CD deck and a couple of CD's as gifts, but that was the first that I paid for. I had a bunch of cassettes but I don't think that I ever bought one before that. They were all gifts, or trades, or copies.

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  33. I remember being a little kid, getting a music store gift certificate, and going into the store and being like, oh wow I dont get music, and buying a set of Bruce Lee movies instead. I didn't give a fuck for music until one of my buddies played an nwa tape for me

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  34. I think that it holds up reasonably well compared to some other early gangta stuff.

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  35. True Canadian here, first Tape I bought was Corey Hart's "Boy in the Box" and first CD was Lee Aaron's "Some Girls Do". Only a true Canuck can appreciate that! Besides Lee Aaron was one hot babe in the late 80s/early 90s!!!

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  36. So odd because BMG and Columbia House came up in coversation with a coworker this morning.
    I always forgot to return the stupid cards, which is why I own a Sonny and Cher CD to this day.

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  37. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    no no no


    vlad is awesome


    this is that dude in the blue short sleeve button up shirt with the backwards red cap who always has signs and is always yelling at the heels. he always has ringside and wwe even did a piece on him on confidential or excess

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  38. I don't own an iPod either, but do you just not listen to music?

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  39. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    i knew a dude in high school who had no business owning paranoid but even he had it. thats when we realized that everyone is given a copy of it at birth no matter what

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  40. I was pretty much the same. My parents were old school folk fans, with my Dad veering into 1950's rock, but not much newer than that. Current pop culture was mostly alien to me as a kid.
    We rarely watched movies either, which is something that I've inherited. I can easily go a couple of years or longer without watching a movie.

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  41. Yeah not the greatest business model in world history...
    1. Sell little kids 8 CDs for a penny
    2.?????????????
    3.Profit!

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  42. There was an article on I think Mental Floss not too long ago on how their business plan operated.

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  43. Gotcha. I've seen Vlad wear that stupid red hat a bunch of times so I got confused. As far as super fans go I put Vlad at #1. That dude was the man, it sucks not seeing him in the crowd

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  44. http://mentalfloss.com/article/28036/its-steal-how-columbia-house-made-money-giving-away-music
    If you're interested.

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  45. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    I remember being so excited when I finally got a Royal Assassin card. I thought that was the coolest card in history. Shivan Dragon or Kraken be dammed!

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  46. What do you think of "13"?

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  47. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Yeah, I remember signing up for that, getting my free shit, and they kept saying I had to buy CD's at their regular club price. Well, I didn't. And that was that. I'll have to read that article.

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  48. My Uncle-in-Law came out of the closet online, inadvertently, just 2 days ago.

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  49. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    I use to work at a recording studio here in Washington, Robert Lang Studios. At the time it was the second biggest recording studio in the state. Well, all sorts of bands had come through; Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Something Corporate, Queensryche, Dave Matthews. One day the owner, Bob Lang, was telling me about how he got a call from a producer friend of his in the early 90's, and he wanted to book some time for a band. Well, Bob couldn't. He had a friend whom he owed a favor for, and that guy's son was gonna come in to record his country album for the time that this producer wanted. So, he had to pass.

    That band? Soundgarden. The album they were gonna record? Superunknown.

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  50. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    I actually prefer Chronic 2001. Don't get it twisted, I love The Chronic, but 2001 is such a monster with the hits.

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  51. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Man, the day I got a CD player was one of those landmark kinda days. It was for Christmas, and my parents had made a scavenger hunt deal out of it. I just about lost my mind.

    No more rewinding. No more having to search. I could put things on repeat. I could set up an alarm clock so I woke up to 1st Of Tha Month every morning. Glorious.

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  52. Track down "Sound City". Awesome documentary about the famed LA studio, directed by Dave Grohl.

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  53. I used to own High 'n Dry, Pyronamia and Hysteria all on vinyl. My parents bought me the first two and i bought Hysteria. Back in those days, without the advent of the internet, waiting for the follow up to Pyromania was excruciating. Then, you find out that the drummer only had one arm now? Mind blown....

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  54. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    I use to know a DJ who only used CD decks, which I always thought was suppose to be a bit of sacrilege amongst the DJ community. However, the things he could do were absolutely amazing when it came to mixing and playing music.

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  55. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    I was Mr. Nothing But Rap until I was 16. However, even during my era of being extremely close-minded, I absolutely loved Better Man. Fucking masterpiece.

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  56. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Why isn't Vlad part of the IWC?

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  57. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    we're not cool enough to hang with him


    /shoot

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  58. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    you know it's sad but truuuueee....

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  59. I came of age when people still bought cassette tapes, and I bought some of those before buying any CD.

    But first CD? Probably Dark Side of the Moon. I have no idea what the first cassette I bought was.

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  60. First CD I ever bought was AC/DC Live At Donington, at a Wal-Mart right after seeing an SMW show in Kentucky. Somebody( Cornette, maybe?) had used "Back In Black" as their entrance music, so I wanted to get the CD.(Of course, years later, I got the actual Back In Black CD, but hey, I was 7; what did I know?)

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  61. Full Moon Fever may be Petty's best; it's funny that songs people associate with the Heartbreakers(I Won't Back Down, Free Fallin', Runnin' Down A Dream) are actually from Fever.

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  62. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    my sis and i got pyromania when it came out on vinyl. of course we had thriller, and she also had crue's shout at the devil.


    love those early days of mtv!!!


    i remember when rick allen lost his arm, too.

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  63. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    13's pretty good. i love the planet caravan feel of 'zeitgeist'



    though i wish people would quit whinin' about bill ward not being there. dude is more miss than hit these days in terms of bein' able to get the job done cause of his health. no its no ideal he's not there but theres really nothing that can be done


    that said, when i saw the original group at ozzfest in 05, they were spot on. even ozzy, who a year later solo was pretty bad

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  64. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    there was a mom n pop store near me that had a few remaining copies of body count (with cop killer) when it got pulled. i went with my sis there and when i went to buy it they wouldnt sell it cause i was still too young. so i asked if they could sell it to my sister and they did, who proceeded to hand it right to me.


    loopholes

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  65. It's uncanny how much Ozzy still sounds the same. I did some comparisons with my other original Sabbath stuff and yeah, he still has it.

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  66. It gets better does it? Speaking from personal experience I see!

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  67. I had all of those as well. Pretty sure anyone growing up during the MTV heyday of the 80s, owned lots of the same stuff.


    I mean, who didn't have Styx's Mr. Roboto? Anyone?

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  68. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 13, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Rage, "Battle of Los Angeles". Fuck yeah.

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  69. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Do you still have it? I bet it's worth a bit of money

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  70. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    i hated how at least on cassettes some of them would mess with the cover art

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  71. The summer between 3rd & 4th grade (1985), I purchased the self-titled album from The Power Station (Andy & John Taylor from Duran Duran, Robert Palmer, & Tony Thompson from Chic [and a failed Led Zeppelin reunion]). $6.99 US from a Zody's (very similar to the Canadian chain Zeller's). Pretty sure my next purchase was Genesis' "Invisible Touch".

    Yes, I am old.

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  72. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    they made a point this time to have him do vocals he could reproduce live

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  73. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    this thread made me think of something that a lot of you youngin's dont know about:


    CD LONGBOXES

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  74. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    we did it!

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  75. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    yep yep, though with the advent of ebay etc its not as hard to find

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  76. I don't think I ever saw one on a new CD after 1993. I distinctly remember Nirvana's "In Utero" not being packaged in one.

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  77. "13" is great, and I didn't miss Bill Ward, because Brad Wilk owned it on that album. No good reason he shouldn't be drumming for an actively recording/touring band.

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  78. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    its funny that you mention vulgar and below steveob mentions leppard, cause i had a cassette a friend made that had each album on opposite sides of the tape


    peeps might think that its all hair metal vs thrash vs whatever, but honestly at least back when you gave it all a chance. vulgar is as much a part of my teen years as is adrenalize

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  79. Yeah, I enjoyed it quite a bit. Luckily, I got to see the reformed Black Sabbath in 1999, so I can die happy.

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  80. Ice Cube - The Predator. I actually listened to it again for the first time in a few years last week, still holds up.

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  81. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    sounds about right. i used to keep some of the long boxes (or the long paper inserts for the labels that shipped in plastic) and 92 seems to be the cutoff

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  82. My first album was the soundtrack to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Not cool, I know.

    My first gig has better cred though. Went to see a brilliant British rap group called The Brotherhood (who sadly never hit the big time). They were playing support for Afrika Bambaater.

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  83. Also, BMG intentionally avoided printing the UPC code on most of their CDs, so there wasn't much of a point in gaming their system to have a bunch of discs you could take to a shop to sell "back" as used.

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  84. I recall "Back In Black" being Candido's theme for years.

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  85. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    sometimes when buying used cds, if i saw the "distributed by' in place of a upc, it would give me a moments pause since sometimes the clubs censored the albums

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  86. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    no gimmicks needed

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  87. I still kick myself for not making the drive to CO to see the "Heaven & Hell" show in '09.

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  88. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    saw 'em in 07 right after the comp +3 new came out. amazing show

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  89. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    i went to see down (incl phil & rex of pantera) back in 08 and it was easily the rowdiest crowd ive ever seen, over and above tried and true speed metal bands like slayer and exodus, who are known for having intense pits

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  90. Definitely '92 or '93.
    Those were cool though.

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  91. Yup, it was Candido.

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  92. Green Day's DOOKIE

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  93. Don't remember which of the tons of cassettes I bought first were... but the first CD's I bought with my first pay check from my first real job were "Fantastic Voyage" from Coolio and "Jar of Flies" from Alice in Chains. I'm diverse.

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  94. My best friend was a pretty heavy influence on my musical tastes. He ,and a bunch of my other friends from Catholic school, turned me onto the Pumpkins. Remember, this was '95-'96 and they were the biggest thing in rock. Still my favorite band ever. His sister, who always had a bit of a racial identity issue, and her boyfriend got us into rap. I went from thinking Hammer was good to being well-versed in all things Death Row within a year.
    I cared about sports too much as a kid to give a shit about music or pop culture until I was 12, 13 years old.

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  95. I remember how expensive that album was. Right around $30 on CD.

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  96. Didn't anyone else scam Columbia House and the other companies where you receive like 20 CDs or tapes for free and then you are supposed to "purchase" one new one a month for 2 years? I built up my collection that way back in 96-97, lol. A law teacher told us in High School that anyone under 18 couldn't enter a legal agreement such as that so all I had to do was write a letter to the companies stating that (and I never returned the CDs/tapes). Hooray for loopholes. Anyway, I got Greenday, Offspring, Collective Soul, Nirvana, Seven Mary 3, Pantera, Metallica, Alice and Chains, and Soundgarden (a grunge dream team) through this.

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  97. "DoggyStyle in the 6th Grade" sounds like the name of a very illegal porn

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  98. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    I loved It Takes A Thief when I was a kid. I was in 6th grade when Gangsta's Paradise came out, and man, to this day I've never seen one song so popular.

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  99. I knew a girl in high school that made a mix tape of nothing but that song on both sides.
    It was a little much.

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  100. Ozzy Osbourne's "No More Tears", Metallica's "And Justice For All", and Rush's "Moving Pictures" were all my firsts, purchased at the same time.

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  101. "PLAY FROM YOUR FUCKING HEART!" Yeah, it sucks that there's an entire generation who doesn't know about Bill Hicks.

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  102. I soooo did this....many times. Aerosmith...Billy Idol...White Lion...Poison in the 80s'. Then in the 90's Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Collective Soul, the Reality Bites soundtrack. Note: I never really complied with the contract, and they never sent it for collection. Now, you can't get CD's from anyone anywhere in this manner. But the DVD club still exists...

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  103. Cassette-wise, I'm not sure exactly what I bought vs. what I got for bday or xmas, but it was probably either Offspring's Smash, Green Day's Dookie, or Rancid's Let's Go. Although before that I definitely was given Kriss Kross' Totally Krossed Out and Billy Ray Cyrus' album with Achy Breaky Heart.

    When it came to CD's, I remember being given that one Kiss live album from 96, No Doubt's Tragic Kingdom, and Nada Surf's High/Low (the one with "Popular" of course). Then soon after I definitely went out and bought that Nirvana live album From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah with my own money. I still have that one too, it sounds really good and had one of those bitchin live versions of "Teen Spirit" where they played it at double time. Plus "Spank-Thru" and "Aneurysm", two of my favorite Nirvava rarities. "Blew" sound awesome there too. I might have bought that at the same time as the criminally-underrated Tiny Music album by STP.

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  104. I compiled at least 50% of my Rush collection using this method.

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  105. Gonna go out on a limb and guess you're a white suburbanite who has never been on welfare.

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  106. "I definitely was given Kriss Kross' Totally Krossed Out and Billy Ray Cyrus' album with Achy Breaky Heart."


    Gag gifts, or passive-aggressive hate?

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  107. You'd probably find it buried under Charlie Reneke's pill stash.

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  108. I hate it, honestly.

    They rip off their own riffs. It's entirely too derivative of the first three albums. The riffs aren't that good. There's no soul in it. I still don't get why it's called "13".

    However, I did see them live this year. They sound FANTASTIC.

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  109. I was 7, so no accounting for taste. Although it helped me learn at a very young age that novelty wears off quick. For Achy Breaky anyway, i'd still bump to some Kriss Kross (RIP Mack Daddy).

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  110. "I still don't get why it's called '13'."

    Their 13th studio album*.


    (* - Revisionist history thanks to the Osbourne/Iommi settlement over the name "Black Sabbath". They only count the Sabbath albums with Ozzy or Dio as vocalists, but throw in the Ian Gillan "Born Again" LP as well.)

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  111. Being a Black Sabbath and Ozzy fan since being a young lad, I would've pretty much loved anything they put out after so many years. The way I see it is, if this album would've come out in the 70s, and you didn't know any better; it would be considered to be in line with their other releases. Sure, there's derivate riffs and I wish they could've worked it out with Bill Ward, but it's still a Sabbath album with Ozzy at the vocals. That's enough for me.

    And yeah, they've always been exceptional live.

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  112. 1995 Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx or Mobb Deep - The Infamous. They were one and two but don't remember which one I bought first.

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  113. Cuban Linx is still my favorite album in all of music to this day

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  114. K Ci & Jo Jo album

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  115. Yeaaa I'm a 2001 guy myself

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  116. That makes sense from a stylistic perspective. After Gillan, Sabbath with Hughes (what a dud that one was) and Martin was basically Tony Iommi's solo career.

    But seriously, it's their 19th (or 20th if you include Heaven & Hell's TDYK).

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  117. It's in my top five. Kind of strange that the first two I ever bought get played to this day. Well not the original cd's, but you know what I mean.

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  118. I basically told myself that I didn't care how bad the new album would be (I didn't think it would be *bad*, after all The Devil You Know was great) and I didn't care if Ward wasn't playing, as long as it meant I could get to see them perform before they died. After all, I missed out on ever seeing Dio (let alone Pantera, Type O etc.) and the original line-up hadn't performed in Australia since about 1973(!).

    But this... I don't know, it sounds as though they're channeling a tribute band who's trying to channel their old selves. I think artistically, the members had no interest in writing new music together as Sabbath, but there was too much money involved to turn it down and Rick Rubin wanted to get that particular sound from the first three albums out of them, however inorganically.

    Basically, you can't recreate what you did as a drunk and stoned 22-year-old when you're north of 60.


    I think once the '90s hit, Type O Negative and Alice In Chains were their strongest spiritual successors. The new AIC even sounds like a Sabbath album from another dimension, and TON's 'World Coming Down' is a Sabbath album on steroids.

    It's amazing how influential Sabbath was/is: except for Motorhead (and thereby Venom), metal loses 97% of its inspiration. They're to heavy rock as the Beatles are to pop.

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  119. Now those are albums you can set your watch to.

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  120. Were they the things that were shaped like DVD jewel cases, were hard to open and were hard to store?

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  121. You know who else reminds me of old Sabbath? At least in spirit and riffs? Wolfmother.

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  122. People have told me that, but I don't see it. I hear more Zeppelin from them.

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  123. The first time you listen to 'Tremor Christ' you're like "...huh?"

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  124. BTW here in Australia, Leary's 'Asshole' was GIGANTIC and is still big today. He's a guy who'll be beloved forever.

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  125. Yeah, there's plenty of Zepp in them as well, no doubt.

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  126. I hate how people trash Ozzy. It's like, "he always sounded weird and was never a great singer in the first place."

    He sings great on Sabotage, though.

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  127. Cassette - Cypress Hill Black Sunday


    CD - Eagles Hotel California

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  128. That's bollocks. He's not fucking Pavarotti, he's a heavy metal singer and he's got the perfect mix of sinister and is always on key. What more do people want?



    Personally, I think Blizzard of Oz and Diary of a Madman, are masterpieces.

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  129. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    they were the cardboard packaging that most cds were sold in till about 92 or 93. about 2 or 2 and half times the height of a jewel case and the same width (which means sometimes they were really crammed in there). often the cover art was either cropped or somehow changed to fit the new longer dimension. the actual jewel case booklet etc were no different than today's



    some companies instead used sealed plastic shells, like any given thing that you'd find on shelves somewhere. the longboxes you could open like a box of cereal on the end (the cds were packaged at the bottom) but the plastic shells had to be cut. they either had a single one sided piece of paper running the length of the shell (about the same length as a long box) that had the cover art; you could just flip the package over to look at the back of the jewel case that was in a little pocket, or they had the actual booklet in its own bubble outside of the one for the jewel case


    plenty of images of 'cd longbox' of the traditional cardboard ones, might have to dig to see images of the plastic ones

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  130. He's fucking great. His autobiography is a good read, too. After a while, every three pages is "...and that's when I decided to quit drinking."

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  131. No, longboxes were a packaging gimmick designed to both use old LP racks and discourage shoplifting. People figured out eventually that the extra paper used was a waste, and that CDs locked in reusable plastic frames with sensors that would trigger the door alarm were better.

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  132. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    wiki says the official phase out date was april fools day 93 *shrug*

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  133. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    then we entered the era of those damn sticky seals (not the ones over the top with the name and artist) that never fully came off

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  134. I popped that in for the first time in a long while just like a week ago. Still holds up.

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  135. I was never shy about replacing CD cases, especially when they were wrong or defaced from adhesives. I recall buying a coup of Toadies "Rubberneck", only to find that they had used a black tray to cover up the picture of the band. I'd often buy 2CD cases for double-releases to save room on my shelf (I bought a lot of double albums that weren't compressed to one disc for whatever reason).

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  136. "Seventh Star" actually was recorded as an Iommi solo album, as evidenced by the mixing & master tapes. It was only record company pressure that forced it to be sold as a Sabbath LP.

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  137. Really? When I was 7, I wanted every album from The Police & Duran Duran.

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  138. My 14-year-old is well too aware of New Kids On The Block, Debbie Gibson, & Tiffany, thanks to Bill Hicks.

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  139. Yep.

    Glenn Hughes redeemed himself with his and Tony's Fused album.

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