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Samoa Joe vs Necro Butcher

Scott, have you ever seen/rated this match?


Basically ten minutes of Joe wiping the floor with Butcher, inventing such moves as the Forehead Powerslam and the Fuck You You're Going Over, and other stuff that would make Brock Lesnar cringe. Also a guest commentator who went on to a have decent little career in WWE.

This could honestly range from five stars to negative five stars depending on the reviewer, so would be interesting to get your take.

Never seen the match, no.  Aside from powerslamming the dude on his FOREHEAD, there wasn't much to it for my liking.  Necro Butcher is the guy with one of the biggest disconnects between most awesome wrestling name and worst look I've ever seen.  You hear the guy's name and you're picturing something like Bane or 1992 Vader and you get this dude out of Duck Dynasty instead.  It's really weird.


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  1. Necro Butcher is HORRIBLE. Hated that match when it first happened, still hate it.

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  2. Necro Butcher looked exactly how I pictured him before I saw him: an evil hillbilly. But I was really into horror at the time so my mindset was more evil redneck than supervillain anyway, so that led my expectation.

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  3. Joe is a svelte 290 here.

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  4. Commentary made that match for me

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  5. That "match" F'n sucked.

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  6. I'm really curious what logic would lead a reviewer to give this anything close to five stars, or anything above DUD, really. We all have different preferences, I know, but anyone who'd rate this favorably care to shed some light?

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  7. Still love this match but the commentary is just horrible. I don't remember hating the announcing so much when I first watched it (probably because I was super duper smarky back then) but wow does it sound awful too. Even Punk sounds bad.

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  8. This style of wrestling can occasionally be fun to watch in person (provided you can see anything when the guys are wandering around the floor), but watching it removed from the live element has always been brutal for me.

    The one compliment I can give Necro Butcher is that he's slightly better than New Jack, but that's about it.

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  9. Only Scott Keith and his fans would hate this match

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  10. Necro is a super nice guy, but yeah...while I kinda admire the beatings he's willing to take in the name of entertaining people, it's also kinda (extremely) stupid.

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  11. I just googled the match and it was just rows and rows of blog posts about how awesome it was.

    I'm not sure I get it

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  12. The craziest thing is that I haven't absolutely hated Necro's work the few times I've seen him have to reign it in against other guys who doesn't necessarily do the crazy garbage brawling. He's made really innovative uses of weapons, combining them with (gasp!) actual wrestling moves... he just chooses to punch people while wandering the stands and break lightbulbs instead.

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  13. There is no art in that match.

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  14. I remember seeing Necro Butcher in "The Wrestler" and being like, OH! This is the kind of wrestling I hate a lot! if I wanted to watch people brutally maim each other for money, I'd check out MMA!

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  15. Years ago I saw Necro Butcher vs Bryan Danielson live at an FIP show. Wasn't half bad, was actually pretty good if I remember right but you could tell Bryan was doing most of the work in the match.

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  16. When I first saw the one guy in the Wyatt Family, I honestly thought WWE signed Necro Butcher.

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  17. You lost me at Necro Butcher. There is no way I would dirty my sophisticated palette by wilfully watching White New Jack in a match.

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  18. Or, people that prefer wrestling to...whatever the fuck you call that.

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  19. I'm not too proud to say I like death match wrestling. It's dangerous and stupid as shit, but i'm also a monster, so I have a great laugh. Necro is one of my faves, Joe is one of my faves. Put em together? I'm there.

    I like New Jack too. Mother fucker pisses more charisma than most modern workers.

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  20. The only thing that kills me is these guys do this shit in front of CZW fans who are so snobbish and deadened to this stuff that they barely react. The only way they ever gain respect for a guy is when they take some legit dangerous insane bump or when they bleed enough to risk death. I'm honestly ok with death match shit if its done well and worth the reaction, but these fans just make it so not worth the risk. The whole thing makes no sense.

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  21. Is Necro still around? He'd make a good Wyatt.

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  22. I've seen some good death matches, but most are trash. The best ones are the ones that spend most of the match NOT using the gimmicks and building the drama.

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  23. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    That's not fair, New Jack is a complete and total scumbag, Necro Butcher is a decent guy.

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  24. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    I can do deathmatch wrestling in small doses, I gotta admit that most of the CZW Cage of Death matches are pretty cool.


    BTW, I'd give the match in the video about *1/2.

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  25. That's Punk?!!! He sounds so unrecognizable.

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  26. HO LEEEEEE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

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  27. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Yeah, he recently got hurt at a IWA-MS show and was doing a Kickstarter or something to raise money to pay for his surgery. Just the tattoo alone makes me think he has no chance in hell of getting hired by WWE, though.

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  28. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    That commentary was fucking awful. If you're going to suck at least be entertaining, like the PWG guys.

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  29. Bad death matches are like...the worst of bad wrestling. Bad WWE style is just boring, and bad lucha is just silly, but bad death matches....ugh.

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  30. New Jack might be the shittiest person in wrestling.

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  31. The cage of death where Jack Evans nearly smashes apart like a watermelon was one of the craziest things i've ever seen.

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  32. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    And to hold that title... fuck, man, that's like an accomplishment. You gotta put a lot of work in to be the shittiest person in wrestling.

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  33. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    I find bad death matches highly entertaining just for comedic value.

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  34. MaffewOfBotchamaniaAugust 24, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    I love this match and thought it was a great clash of styles.
    THE MAN WHO GIVES PAIN VS. THE MAN WHO CAN TAKE IT.

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  35. I dunno, I can't really laugh at something legitimately dangerous.

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  36. Well, he's not putting any work into his wrestling matches.

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  37. Stranger in the AlpsAugust 24, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    I saw Necro Butcher in the wrestler, and remember hearing about him. I have never seen a minute of CZW in all my experiences watching wrestling. I just can't get into this style. The same holds true to original ECW. I have gone back and watched some old ECW stuff in the recent past, and get bored rather quickly with the whole spot-setup-spot-spot-setup-spot. Plus, the mutants are retards, in the sense of the term that they are not mentally challenged, but simply retarded.

    But to be fair, current WWE style is getting a little stale, with everybody having 4 to 5 moves of doom and hitting them usually at the same time frame of the match. But hey, when the territories are long dead, what are you gonna do? Complain?

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  38. I did not care for this match. I probably would have eaten this up like 15 years ago. Not today, though.

    Cared even less for the commentary.

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  39. I thought the first 5 minutes or so was a fun brawl. I started enjoying it less when they started bouncing Necro's head off the cement.

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  40. One of my favorite announcing moments ever was Excalibur and Chuck Taylor (I think) getting a huge kick out of the way the two members of Unbreakable Fucking Steen Machines not in the match kept standing on the same side of the ring. To the point that they even caught the wrestlers attention and made them do it once they tried to stop.

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  41. "This could honestly range from five stars to negative five stars..."
    Isn't that true for any match?

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  42. A tattoo can be overcome. When John Tenta started out in sumo, he always wore a big bandage on his arm to cover up that tiger tattoo he had.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b7/Tenta-as-Sumotori.gif/200px-Tenta-as-Sumotori.gif

    Then many years later in WCW, he went as far as to get it changed from a tiger to a shark!

    http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/liljo0526/8e88e597.jpg

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  43. New Jack should be in the WWE Hall of Fame just for being that big an asshole.

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  44. WCW either made him do that or paid him to do that (probably the latter, considering how stupid WCW was with money. Just ask Nailz.)

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  45. Perhaps. But for this match, you can find actual documented opinions ranging from best to worst match ever.


    Personally, I can't see how somebody that raved over Brock vs Cena could not like this match...they both have the same feeling of watching a snuff movie to me.

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  46. I'm not much of a Necro fan either, but you gotta admit that 'Choose Death' is a fucking great slogan for a wrestler.

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  47. You and me both, my man.

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  48. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Is he even a trained wrestler? I wanna say he's not.

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  49. I like violent wrestling as much as the next guy, but I had to stop the video around 8 minutes in. Not my cup of tea,

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  50. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    I was referring to what the tattoo was about, not the tat itself. Sure, they brought RVD back, but... And I say this as a huge pothead (the "Amsterdam" part of my name ain't because I'm Dutch, I'm Irish), but why the fuck would you tattoo a marijuana leaf on your arm? Might as well just have a constant warrant out for you.

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  51. I get the feeling that at this point more people are going to CZW shows for the botchamania aspects of it than for the actual wrestling. Though to be fair, I've never seen a full CZW show, only occasional matches here or there and (JEEEEZUS) botchamania clips.

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  52. I fucking love this match.

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  53. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryAugust 24, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    I can if people are intentionally doing it. I mean, I wouldn't laugh at an racing driver getting killed (RIP Dale Earnhardt, Dan Wheldon, Ayrton Senna, etc...), but some idiots willing to kill themselves for what, $50? Yeah, I'm going to laugh. You gotta understand though, I think of CZW/IWA-MS as more like Jackass than actual wrestling. It's like how I never miss Tuesday Night Fights on Deadspin, stupid people getting hurt doing stupid shit amuses me for some reason.

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  54. I also didn't like Jackass, so maybe that's that.

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  55. Wiki says he's trained by Ray Candy. He died a year after New Jack started wrestling...maybe it was a shame-related suicide.

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  56. Hell, the way WCW was throwing money around, John Tenta changing his tattoo probably got Lanny Poffo a 10% raise.

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  57. Holy shit CM Punk is tremendous on commentary.

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  58. I second that, nice change up after all the WWE PG.

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  59. The violence is the art.

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  60. Luckily, this blog has more followers than people who've actually seen a Necro Butcher match.

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  61. Was The Genius under......you know what, not even gonna finish the question. It's WCW. He was probably making $150K a year and never got in a WCW ring.

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  62. Savage got him signed to WCW in 1995. According to Poffo, Savage wanted to give him the Gorgeous George gimmick - he even bleached his hair. But WCW never called or returned his phone calls.

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  63. The botched exploder at 7:49 is still one of the sickest things I have ever seen in wrestling.


    I remember this match when it happened and it was a pretty big deal at the time. They had a re-match, but clearly couldn't match the insanity of the first

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  64. Man u get 150k to do nothing?
    Where the fuck do I sign?


    Allegedly hbk got 15k a week during his time off.

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  65. Also the head butts that busted Necro open hardway (I don't think that he ever bladed in this match), and Necro's FU on Joe that saw him slam his leg hard into that metal ramp.

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  66. True. New Jack is an awful human being.

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  67. Probably not. Cornette pretty much ran with "Hey, this guy will get heat. Because he's black, and we run all of our shows in gyms filled with extras from Deliverance."

    Then Paul E. took it to a new level.

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  68. He said Ray Candy just showed him how to flatback and run the ropes, he never learned any actual wrestling. I can think of exactly once that I saw him do a real move (a piledriver no less!)

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  69. Raven and Cactus vs. Dreamer and Funk, November 2 Remember 1995. Epitome of garbage match, but your mileage may vary depending on your preference for that type of thing.

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  70. Correct. His brief stint as commenter on Raw was the only time in recent memory that I've watched the show in its entirety.

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  71. Honestly, CZW today isn't CZW ten years ago. It isn't Wifebeater getting shredded with a weed whacker anymore, it's more in line with stuff like CHIKARA but with the death match stuff as more of a side attraction as opposed to the only thing there. I mean, most of the East Coast indy guys like Adam Cole, ACH, and so on got their first real chances in CZW before moving onto ROH.

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  72. I'm honestly amazed that shirt didn't become a bigger thing even in like the metal or hardcore scenes.

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  73. What's Zandig doing now?

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  74. I have no clue. I loosely follow the company. But he doesn't own it, it's owned by own of their workers DJ Hyde.

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  75. There's no art in legitimately beating the shit out of a guy who's letting you do it. It's not art, it's what you could find in any backyard promotion in 2000.

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  76. I can see above dud. I can stretch it to a *** match at most. (I'd give it **) Anything above that is asinine.

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