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The Only Review of Badd Blood 2003 That You'll Ever Need

Greetings.

I always enjoyed this show, and felt like it was buried amongst the crap that was 2003. So, why not a random review of a great show from your fearless leader, well, fearless assistant to the leader.


Badd Blood - June 2003 - Houston, TX

The announcer literally says this is an Austin and Bischoff Production. Austin said he really dug doing the GM stuff on his DVD, which I wonder whether if that were true of if he was trying to save face knowing he was just ruining his legacy. 

Dudley Boyz vs. Chris Nowinski & Rodney Mack

This was during Rodney's White Boy Challenge, and apparently Nowinski is rolling with him and Teddy as some sort of Uncle Ted or something. Thankfully, he's doing the brunt of the ring work, as he's pretty damn decent, especially at one point where he tears it up with Bubba. A pretty even match that saw the Dudleyz hold the momentum near the end until Nowinski nailed Bubba in the back of the head with this Cody Rhodes-like metal face mask, earning the pin. It's a shame that Chris had to retire so soon, I think he could have been something in this sport. 
Nowinski hits Bubba with his Dr. Doom mask for the pin at 7:13 | ** Nothing worth tracking down, but a perfectly fine opener. 

King and JR talk about the Redneck Triathlon that's going on between Austin and Bischoff later tonight, and that one of the contests will be pie eating. The King says it's gonna be Poontang Pie. Yes. They're gonna perform oral sex on women here on PPV. Terri is hosting the first segment, which is a burping contest. Oh, Terri. I will never be able to see her and not think Alli. Of course, the burps are added in post, and they sure are hilarious. Because it's burping! Chuck Lorre saw this and thought "I could turn this style of sophisticated humor into a TV show!" and thus, we got Big Bang Theory. 

Test vs. Scott Steiner - for Stacy Keibler's Managerial Services

Scott gets a pretty big pop. Man alive the things a fucking catchphrase will earn you. In the story here, Test is a sexist sleezeball and Scott is the better man whom Stacy wants to be with. You know, as wrestling fans, we sure are asked to suspend our disbelief a lot. Regardless, this could very well be Scott's best match while in the WWE. He worked babyface, getting his ass-kicked for a good portion of the match, and the only offense he every really handed out were suplexes and clotheslines, and not once did he win the lotto. Test served up straight power offense maneuvers while he mocked both Scott and Stacy. The finish saw Test take a swing at Scott with a chair, however he missed, it nailed the rope which bounced back into his skull, at which point Steiner hit a reverse Russian Leg Sweep for the pin. A damn fine match that delivered far more than I thought it would. 
Scotty hits a reverse Russian Leg Sweep for the pin at 6:27 | *** You know, it's worth tracking down to see Scott's best WWE match

Next up is the Pie Eating contest. Bischoff has some hot chicks, and I wish they'd just hurry up and get to him having to go down on Mae Young and get it over with. It's incredible how far away they are from things like this now a days. 

We see footage from Judgment Day where Christian won the IC Title Battle Royal. He cheated against final opponent, Booker T, which leads us to...

Christian [C] vs. Booker T - WWE Intercontinental Championship

Heh, King makes a crack about Booker's prison record, and The King says "Yeah, there are some people who could have ended up in jail had certain situations gone a certain way. *ahem*" The momentum is all Booker's in this match, crushing Christian with back-body drops, scissor kicks, and missile drop-kicks. Only few spare moves, one of them being Booker's Bookend, keep this from being a total squash. Christian ends up hitting Booker for the DQ in order to keep his strap. Shitty finish, and seriously more like a Main Event Squash than anything else.
Booker wins via DQ at 7:55 | ** Decent, but it's the first blemish on the show so far

Bischoff and Stone Cold come out for the Pie Eating. Oh my goodness, Stone Cold pulled a ruse and Bischoff has to perform oral sex on Mae Young. I'm gonna shit my pants from laughing so hard. 

La Resistance gets an interview. They do not enjoy America. I'm expecting them to take me on a tour of ghettos so they can point out the crumbling buildings, and lackluster landscapes. 

La Resistance vs. RVD & Kane [C] - World Tag Team Championship

The funny thing is, any person who has done 10 seconds of research would see how much better of a place France is than America. RVD gets a bit of offense in the beginning, soon after Kane enters the fray and just destroys both of them until RVD misses a summersault flip and nails Kane. This leads to a double chokeslam on RVD for the pin and the titles. From what I've read during this era, these guys were terrible, and the only reason they kept getting a push was because Sylvain was the son of Patterson's golfing buddy. Nepotism in wrestling? I am displeased to hear of this. RVD and Kane sure had some odd, but well worth it chemistry. 
RVD eats a double chokeslam for the pin at 5:49 | **  Far from a classic, but helped the PPV going with another decent match that had some worthwhile action.

Goldberg vs. Jericho

I've never liked Greenberg, and it made me sick that Jericho had to job to him in 2003. This one starts off with Goldberg tearing into Jericho, taking him down with constant throws and power slams. Chris finally turns the tide when Goldberg looks to spear him on the outside, but Chris side-steps, which sends Bill crashing through the barrier in pretty incredible fashion. Chris is immediately on him, working the shoulder. Goldberg eventually mounts a comeback, only to stop short due to his shoulder. The crowd is about 60% Y2J and 40% Goldberg. People really did not give a shit about Bill this time around. Naturally, Goldberg wins this one, but Jericho carried him to one of his all-time best matches. He actually had to tell a story this time around that wasn't the same ol' shit he did in WCW. 
Goldberg hits the Jackhammer for the pin at 10:55 | ***1/2  worth looking up, as it's one of Goldberg's all time bests. It gives this PPV another solid notch. 


We get a recap of the Shawn vs. Ric feud. It started when Shawn told Ric that he couldn't lay down for Triple H on Raw. So, at first it was babyface vs. babyface, until Flair turned heel and claimed that Michaels was nothing but a Flair wannabe. Really, it’s best this way. 

Ric Flair vs. Shawn Michaels

They start off with some mat wrestling, and each time they're pulled apart they antagonize one another with slaps and pushes. Eventually while Shawn's back is turned, Ric gets the chop-block, then goes to work on his knee before putting on the figure 4. Shawn eventually turns the tide and slaps on a figure 4 of his own. Then, out of nowhere, Shawn goes outside to pull out a table for no reason. He places Flair on top of it just as Randy Orton runs from the crowd, only to eat a superkick. Shawn, not to be stopped, does a splash from the top rope, turning in mid-air and driving Ric through it. Pretty spectacular, although not enough to get the pin. Soon, the ref is down from an inadvertent low-blow, Ric is down from Sweet Chin Music, and Randy is back up in time to smash Shawn's head with a steel chair, giving Flair the win. This is one of those matches that's never spoken of, and something I consider an underrated gem. It's another great match Flair had during his final run. 
Shawn eats a chair and the pin at 14:18 | ***3/4  A hell of a match that's worth hunting down, and helps to put this PPV in a special class. 

Finally the stupid Redneck Triatholon ends with Stone Cold beating up Bischoff and throwing him in a pig-pen. Yes, this is much better than just being retired. 

We get footage of what happened between Nash and Triple H. They had a match at Judgment Day where Triple H got himself disqualified by smashing Hebner with a sledge hammer. This being, none of the refs want to take the job of Hell in a Cell, thus bringing out Mick Foley. 

Kevin Nash vs. Triple H [C] w/ special guest ref Mick Foley - World Heavyweight Championship - Hell in a Cell

Triple H opens up the match with a few punches, but that's about all he gets before Nash controls the match with back-drops on the outside, elbows, big boots to the face, and steel chairs to the back. Triple H finally gets some momentum right after he dodges a set of stairs that Nash threw at him. He soon bashes Kevin in the head with a hammer, which doesn't kill him. Making that the second most hard-to-believe moment of the night, the first being that Scott Steiner isn't a creepy jerk who lists 'date rape' under his hobbies. Hunter soon finds the mascot of the HIAC, the barbwire 2x4. Nash wrangles it from him, leveling Triple H twice with it, busting him open the first time around. He then sets it on the turnbuckle and drops him on it with snake eyes, pretty original spot. Great near fall when Hunter is catapulted into the 2x4 on the turnbuckle, and then jack-knifed. Hunter soon levels Nash with a sledge-hammer shot and Pedigree for the win. Perhaps it's because I'm so thirsty for something that's not the current sanitized product, but I was absolutely in love with this match. I thought they tore the house down with weapons, plenty of blood, and some brutal spots. These type of matches are sorely missed in wrestling today, and are desperate for a comeback. 
Triple H hits the Pedigree and pins Nash at 21:01 | ****1/4  A fantastic main event that capped off a great PPV. Definitely search for the match, as it's a Top 5 for Kevin Nash, and one of the few great ones from Triple H during this era. 

Showcase Showdown: Easy to see from the numbers that this is a solid PPV that belongs in an elite class among the best B shows. The only major point deductions came from the God-awful Stone Cold and Bischoff skits, but thankfully they were kept to somewhat of a minimum. For those that just want the hits, make sure to track down Flair/Shawn and HHH/Nash. Hell, while you're at it why not check out Goldberg/Jericho, simply to give some love towards Y2J's busting ass in order to make something happen with Goldeneye.


As always, much love to my editor, Steven Ferrari. He and I met when I was with a group of friends and we were trying to open up a summer camp. He was known as "Crazy" Steven, and warned us all that we were doomed. I listened, they didn't. 

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Comments

  1. ****1/4 seems high for the HiTC match, IMO

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  2. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 3, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    I think a lot of people will share your opinion. But for me, I just dug the hell out of it. All I want in a Hell in a Cell match is two guys beating the hell out of each other. I want weapons, blood, and no down-time spots. This match delivered that. Plus, exploding apple crate! C'mon!

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  3. I actually ordered this back in 2003, I also enjoyed this PPV. I was sold after the Triple H - Flair Raw match.

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  4. I've never seen it, but I thought I remember it being universally praised.

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  5. It shouldn't make you sick that Jericho jobbed to Goldberg. Going back to their "feud" in 1998, Jericho wanted Goldberg to squash him- he just wanted to give people a reason to care, and want to see Goldberg destroy him in the greatest squash match ever.

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  6. Down time is fine. Just depends on how it's booked. But I get what you mean. I happen to be one of the people that share Scott's opinion that HHH/Taker at WM28 was a ***** match, but they obviously had very protective booking and I get why there's split opinions on that one.

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  7. Don't get me wrong, it was a good match. However, I would personally shave a star off your rating.
    The PPV as a whole was a very good "B" show, especially considering how bad the WWE was in 2003.

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  8. Down time is fine, especially in a long match when you sell injuries and fatigue. It goes along great with the story.

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  9. Interesting piece on the HIAC match, as spoken by Nash

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJrnLCM41Nc

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  10. You left out the best part of the show. Scott Steiner tripping

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  11. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 3, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    The 1998 feud I understand. Jericho jobbing then made perfect sense.

    But in 2003? Jericho had already been the first Undisputed Champion, had a ton of fantastic matches, and worked his ass off for a business he loved. Goldberg meanwhile just hung out at home, being a putz. They put Goldberg with Jericho because they knew Chris could get a great match out of just about anyone, and what's his reward for being that great? Jobbing to a hack like Bill.

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  12. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    I agree if it goes with the story. Take Triple H vs Shawn from their HIAC, I dig that match a lot and there's tons of downtime. I was more referring to downtime in matches that are 15 minutes or less. Or matches with guys that you know are doing it because they can't really hack it in the ring, IE people like Nash. So, when I see him go out and truly bust his ass, I appreciate it.

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  13. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Wow. You signed up just to call me a dick. Honestly, I take that sort of devotion as a compliment.

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  14. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Dammit. I have no idea how I missed that.

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  15. Good review once again but you could cut the star rating in half for the main event and its still gonna be too high

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  16. ****1/4 is a Caliber special.


    It's not an awful match, but it's sad the absurd lengths (a hammer!) they had to go to to make the match decent, especially with Foley having to do a blade job and take stupid bumps because HHH and Nash had no heat.

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  17. I wouldn't say Big Bang Theory's comedic strength is from its crude humour, though yes, it has done its fair share of juvenile jokes.

    But most of its humour is derived from the characters and their social interactions that bring out their lack of skills. It's more character driven than just dick jokes like Two and a Half Men

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  18. It's still suffering from the same thing a lot of other shows have experienced in the past: letting the breakout character take over. It might as well be called The Sheldon Show.

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  19. But Sheldon was always the star of the show. It was always about Sheldon and Leonard navigating life with Penny trying to show them the way.

    If it became the Raj or Howard show, I'd agree, but it's always been The Sheldon Show.

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  20. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 3, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    You know, you're very right. I give out ****1/4 more than just about any rating. And yeah, watching the promo vid for the match, it's sad how much more of a reaction Mick gets than HHH & Nash combined

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  21. How is Goldberg being a putz? He was under contract to Time Warner and was simply living off a contract.


    Why should he take a buyout for less money like DDP and Booker T, especially given how it worked for DDP? That's just dumb business.


    You would really pay all that money and spend all that time on Goldberg and job him right out to Chris Jericho? Come on, that's just stupid and you know that. You're just biased toward Jericho, which is fine.

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  22. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 3, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Big Bang Theory has no comedic strength. I've watched about 15 episodes, and I can honestly say I didn't even crack a smile. I'm not making that up to cement my point, I just truly believe it's the worst sit-com I've ever seen.

    I mean, their piss-poor writing is so easy, and their fans so stupid, that I wrote a ridiculously obvious portion of a fake-script that included notes from Chuck Lorre, and fans of the show thought it was legit. One went as far to call their contact at CBS to confirm. Yikes.

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  23. Eh, it's funny in the same way any sort of homogenized subject matter for the masses would be. It's not 'good' in the typical sense, but I mean it's inoffensive, means well, and certainly has hit a chord with a certain segment of Americans, so I think the show overall deserves at least a little credit for that, even though it's not my particular cup of tea.

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  24. I think I need to write something on how sometimes 3 and a half star movies are ultimately more entertaining than 4 star ones (if we use the Ebert scale).

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  25. People crap on BBT and I think a lot of is that it's the current sitcom of the moment, plus, oh horrors, it has a laugh track.



    Caliber you honestly think BBT is worse than Hank, Partners, The Michael Richards Show, Work It, Teen Angel, Over The Top, You Wish, Til Death, Anger Management, Two and a Half Men, Meego, every NBC Must See comedy that aired at 8:30 or 9:30, The New Normal, Family Tools, Animal Practice, Whitney, Up All Night, Save Me, etc?

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  26. Foley claims he didn't even know about the match until someone told him in Penn Station and he decided to come back.


    He was plugging his novel at the time.

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  27. Also, how are Big Bang Theory fans stupid besides your dumb story about a fake script? You're the one who spells sitcom with a hyphen, when the common spelling is sitcom.


    The writing isn't sophisticated, but it derives its laughs from the socializing issues the characters have and from how much of a dick Sheldon is. Without fail, Big Bang Theory can produce me laughing hysterically once or twice a show.


    You also have a show that smartly expanded its universe midway through, adding the two women characters and toning down Howard to allow the show to run longer without burning itself out. BBT really doesn't get enough credit for the additions of Melissa Rauch and Mayim Bialik and how they have immensely improved the show, and given the show more to play with.


    The Dungeons and Dragons episode from last season that ended up with Sheldon and Amy in his bedroom discussing intimacy was excellent, and really one of the better scenes they've done. I also enjoyed the Raj-Kate Miccuci relationship, and how they've finally gotten rid of Raj's mutism, which will only better the show going forward.

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  28. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 3, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    we've been on good terms lately, Neal, and I'd like it to stay that way.

    I don't mean to say "all" their fans are stupid, just a good majority. I know some down right brilliant people who fantastic taste who dig the show. So, we'll just have to agree to disagree forever and a day on this one.

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  29. It's in my contract that if you insult Big Bang Theory (and I guess How I Met), it's on.

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  30. That's fair. I just saw fans are stupid and thought: Wait a tick, I love Big Bang Theory...so is he saying....oh shit.

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  31. I think Jericho was probably far less upset about jobbing than you're upset about him jobbing.
    Unrelated, but the other thing I didn't (and never, when people say this) is that Austin was ruining his legacy as GM. I fully believe he was having a blast doing that goofy shit, and I don't in any way think he was ruining his legacy. It's not like, by doing that, he undoes any of the phenomenal matches and storylines he had. It doesn't undo the years of unrivaled- before or since- crowd pops and being the biggest draw in the history of wrestling.
    Same with athletes, actors or anyone else. The horrible movies Al Pacino has done for the last 10-15 years doesn't retroactively undo Heat, Godfather II, etc. The two years with the Wizards doesn't undo MJ's Chicago years. (In fact, I've always believed the exact opposite with that example: that a 40-year old dude was still capable of averaging 20+ ppg and going toe to toe with a young Kobe, T-Mac, etc. and not get embarrassed enhanced his legacy, to me. But I digress.)

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  32. I don't think Austin ruined his legacy with the GM/sheriff stuff, because no one remembers it, because it did suck.


    Beating Debra is probably his big black mark. (and hers too!)

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  33. I tried with Big Bang Theory one time, because some people whose taste in TV otherwise matches mine find it hilarious.
    Not enough pot in the world to get me to laugh at it. But I at least get why it's popular. Maybe I've just become too much of a TV snob, but I just cannot do shows with a laugh track these days. Can't do it. Can't stand being told when to laugh, mostly because it's so obvious how formulaic they're written.
    That doesn't necessarily make older shows with laugh tracks unfunny retroactively; Cheers, Seinfeld, even Friends every now and then are still funny. But current shows with laugh tracks? Can't do it.

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  34. But laugh tracks are the same for every show. What makes Seinfeld or Friends different than Big Bang Theory? If anything, Seinfeld had a very omnipresent laugh track.


    Should sitcoms just never shoot in front of a studio audience? You lose a lot with that.


    A multi-camera in front of a studio audience is simply a way of filming, and it's a method that works great. More shows should be trying it rather than trying to be "hip" and go single cam.

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  35. You are a dick. But you're our dick.

    In all seriousness, I barely remember that show so I won't comment on your ratings.

    I will say your writing has massively improved since a year ago. Good stuff.

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  36. Isn't Stephen Hawking a fan of BBT? That kinda kills you're BBT fans are stupid argument. It's not one of my favorite shows and I don't watch it religiously. But if I'm bored and nothing else is on I'll pop the show on. It has it's moments, doesn't blow me away but entertains me enough. Now Two and a Half Men, that's where your Lorre hate should be directed at.

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  37. Hawking being a fan doesn't necessarily mean the rest of the audience isn't dumb. There's a subset of communications and cultural studies which argues that intellectuals can appreciate dumb entertainment due to their high culture background, which allows them to recognize and appreciate the appeal to a specific formula, and whether or not that appeal is working, but the true audience for that type of entertainment generally only likes that kind of entertainment because it never raises itself above that base level. So, in essence, they like dumb entertainment because they're dumb, or they're less cultured if you want to be more culturally sensitive.

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  38. The show has consultants to make sure all the science and math dialogue is accurate and it's gotten some praise for that.

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  39. i ordered this show with some friends and all three of us considered this to be a trainwreck. The Redneck Triathlon was tedious and embarassing, not to mention a waste of PPV time. HBK/Flair and Goldberg/Jericho were fine, ***-ish matches. The HIAC had lots of bells and whistles to hide the fact that Triple H was in a career slump and that Kevin Nash had no business headlining a major show in 2003, and Foley was dragged back in to salvage a main event that was lacking interest. When the highlight of the night was us laughing at Scott Steiner's superman flop, you know the PPV was a bust.

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  40. Isn't BBT filmed in front of an audience anyway?. It's pretty obvious that it is since it uses the 3 wall set design for all the rooms in the show. Where did this whole laugh track accusation come from?

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  41. Miserable fucking show. Iv given it so many chances as people I know love it, but it is so unfunny.


    "Heh, look at that girl by the bar, her breasts got have anti-gravity values than Neptune" *cue fake audience laugh*


    fuck off.

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  42. MaffewOfBotchamaniaAugust 3, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    I don't agree with Nash here...but fuck, he's still entertaining.

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  43. MaffewOfBotchamaniaAugust 3, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Non-Steiner highlight of the PPV: Goldberg vs. Tigger
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/q71/400720_612173552127035_867551353_n.jpg

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  44. MaffewOfBotchamaniaAugust 3, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Highlight of the PPV (that didn't involve Steiner): Goldberg vs. Tigger

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  45. The show is shot in front of a studio audience

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  46. The show is shot in front of a studio audience, but often studios will sweeten the audio.


    A lot of the laughs are genuine based on reports of people who attended tapings.

    But oh no, laugh tracks!

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  47. My main problem with BBT is the 80s portrayal of nerds. I mean..with the sheer amount of legitimately dorky people out there you think that they could make characters that weren't total stereotypes.

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  48. That's the problem. He's one of the worst characters in the history of television.


    Take Niles Crane, strip everything likable about him away, add a complete assholish personality, and you've got Sheldon.

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  49. It didn't ruin his legacy, but goddamn was I tired of seeing segments end with beer bashes after about the second time. Fun fact: I'm almost positive that of all the segments I've watched of Austin from 1997 - late 1999, there was at most three beer bashes.


    When he came back in 2000, there must have been at least 40 in the month of November alone.

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  50. That's where I just disagree. I find Sheldon to be hilarious and I love watching him confront new social situations every week.


    The sexual harassment episode was great

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  51. I can't see how anyone in a creative line of work can have the balls large enough to complain about something that makes millions of people laugh being unfunny, and then turn around and fail spectacularly at trying to be funny. I'm also willing to bet that the stars of this show have egos smaller than "The Cab" or "Your Main Man" or "Your Fearless Leader" has.

    Fucking hell, man... Internet egos.

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  52. Exactly. I love Jericho about a billion times more than Goldberg, but it would make no sense to put Jericho over in 03. Seriously, where would Goldberg go from there? Is he supposed to be a serious threat to HHH if he jobs to the dude who HHH destroyed time after time?

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  53. God damn that HHH/Flair match from Raw was the tits. Seriously, as much as people like to jerk off about how great the HBK/Flair cryfest was at Mania, I put HHH/Flair on Raw above that match any day.

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  54. Enjoyed reading this as an interesting contrast to Scott's rant on the show, Caliber being the optimist, and Scott writing like he was in physical pain watching it

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  55. He's not an asshole. He's crazy. Not the same thing.

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  56. You should stick to posting other people's questions.

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  57. Scott Steiner's best WWE match was Steiner Bros. Vs. Hart Bros.

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  58. Melissa Rauch is my favorite character on the show. Perfect casting choice

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  59. It's edited out of the DVD.

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  60. Okay, this moment has been an ongoing joke with my friends and I since this DVD was released.

    Goldberg yelled SOMETHING at this kid, and it was probably something really goddamn aggressive. This kid was giving him shit, and Bill looked legitimately pissed. However, they dubbed over what he was saying with a guy who had a Goldberg-esque voice, saying "GETCHA HANDS OFF MEH!!"

    It's one of those magical DVD moments where you'll do the 5-10 second repeat on something and roll around on the lounge room rug like a retard.

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  61. I seem to remember him saying "Don't touch me" so I really don't get why they felt the need to dub over that.

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  62. Scott really needs to redo that match. He was in such an anti-WWE/HHH place around this time and I can't believe he only gave that match 2 and a half stars.

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  63. He probably said fuck and shit a lot.

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  64. You know, I was gonna make a joke taking all the credit for that, but every time I get a new review from CW, the writing is better and needs less work.

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  65. 15 episodes? I've barely made it through two or three. No interest in watching more. I didn't find it funny at all.

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  66. I may disagree with you on BBT, Real Deal (yes, I'm trying to get that over as a nickname for you), but I'm right there with you on How I Met Your Mother. Although, I haven't seen the latest season. I heard it wasn't that hot.

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  67. Same difference in the context of the show. He treats everyone, including his dumb ass girlfriend, like shit.

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  68. Well screw you too!


    How I Met definitely overstayed its welcome and you really have to suspend disbelief with the story, but it has its moments and it can deliver an emotional jolt like no other.


    Barney's bachelor party ruled.

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  69. He doesn't do intentionally. He does it because he doesn't understand. That's the difference.

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  70. Amy isn't a dumbass, she's just socially awkward and incredibly. She longs for any male human contact but because she is the way is, no guy will go near her, except for Sheldon, so she takes what she can gets while hoping she can change him.

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  71. This show was a trainwreck at the time it aired in 2003 (I watched it on PPV at a relative's house and I'm STILL glad I didn't order it) and it's still a trainwreck today. I wouldn't revisit it if you paid me. And Ernest, I agree with everything you said.

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  72. It WAS funny, but the show's just becoming old hat IMO. I definitely enjoyed the show for the first 3.5 seasons or so, but it's just getting lame now. None of the characters have evolved very much, outside of Howard, and I can't stand Bernadette, so his "evolution" is just creating more problems.

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  73. Fair enough. I just disagree

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  74. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 4:40 AM

    You getting smart with me? You think I have more integrity than to go running to Scott and tell him that you're being mean? Well, you're wrong, buddy boy.

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  75. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 4:44 AM

    I know you never answer this question, but what's it gonna take to get you on Team Caliber? I've won'em all over. Maffew, Mike Mears, JohnPetuka. They all swore against The Caliber Man. But now? Now? Well, I'm pretty sure they'd break for me if I were crossing the street. Even myxcneal or however you spell it is throwing up the CW.

    So, how about it? I know you're overweight. I could get you into shape if you wanted. caliberw@hotmail.com. It'll be between me and you.

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  76. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 4:46 AM

    You know, in my first draft I talked about this, but I figured no one would have a clue has to what I was referring to and thought "Goldberg fighting with a kid dressed as Tigger" wasn't that interesting.

    I should have known better.

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  77. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 4:52 AM

    Oh hog wash. The reason I've turned so many people is because of your editing. Take a look at this thread, not a bad word to be said other than stuff related to BBT. Before you came along? Wouldn't happen. You'll take me to the top! Then I'll be come as filthy rich as an internet wrestling critic can get, and I'll forget about all the little people who helped me along the way. Then you can release one of those sweet tell all books about how I use to hire you to "edit" the dead hooker in my room and such.

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  78. It would at least be an improvement over the Leonard Maltin scale.
    Leonard actually gave an awful Charles Band movie called "Laserblast" a 2 and a half star rating, the same rating he also gave to "Unforgiven", a movie that is universally considered one of Clint Eastwood's all-time best.
    There's a great part at the end of the Mystery Science Theater 3000 version of "Laserblast" where Mike and the gang point out several other movies that Leonard Maltin also gave a 2 and a half star rating to and "Unforgiven" and "Alien" were both mentioned, so Leonard has some very odd tastes, especially compared to Roger Ebert who usually called a spade a spade and did a great job pointing out why a good movie was good and why a bad movie sucked.

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  79. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 5:14 AM

    First off, that argument is pathetic. It's like saying world leaders couldn't speak against Hitler because millions followed. Or a 5 star chef not being able to say McDonalds serves terrible food because billions were served. Obviously The Cohen Brothers couldn't say that the writers & directors of Date Movie/Epic Movie/Disaster Movie are terrible because millions like it.

    A large majority of people liking something is often a bad sign. Not always. But it certainly doesn't keep something from being infallible.


    What? You're a preacher who has a problem with Westboro Baptist?! You can't do that! There's hundreds of thousands of people who agree that fags are dooming the nation!

    An ego? The guy who called himself the assistant to the fearless leader? You must have seen Idiocracy and thought what a wonderful world it would be. How's watering your lawn with Gatorade going?

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  80. Love the Very Bad Things reference about the dead hooker. That movie never gets enough praise.

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  81. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 5:16 AM

    I meant to say most fans.

    Honestly, I wrote a fake script, but made sure it was spot on to the crap writing of that show, which took me 5 minutes by the way. Then I added in "notes" from Chuck Lorre which were so insanely over the top that no one could think it was real.

    The fans of the show on imdb not only thought it was real, but people came after me about leaking scripts. I'm not kidding.

    You think that would happen with fans of Seinfeld? Or Curb? Fuck no.

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  82. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 5:26 AM

    Nash always makes me laugh. I love the look on his face when he says "or a PPV of all steel cage matches!"

    Nash wants back? Fuck him!
    No! Book him! Then fuck him!

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  83. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 5:28 AM

    I'm very biased, he's my all time favorite.

    I don't think Jericho should have won, not at all. I just don't think he should have been in the match. I think the guy had earned himself the right to not be in that situation. There were a thousand other guys they could have put there.

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  84. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 5:34 AM

    Thanks, Chris. I appreciate that. I believe this was during a time, for Scott, when he was watching weekly, and well, I don't really blame him for being so bummed out.

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  85. If he hasn't fired me for showing up to wrk drunk all the time, I'm pretty sure Old Man Keith will just sweep this under the rug like usual.

    Plus I've been stealing pens, and I always drink the last cup of coffee at BoD headquarters and never make more.

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  86. This PPV actually got a surprisingly good buyrate (385k), so saying it was a "bust" or that the main event was lacking interest is wrong, unless you're specifically talking about smark opinions and your personal enjoyment of the show. FWIW, I thought this was a pretty bad show too.

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  87. HHH never destroyed Jericho.

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  88. That dead hooker was bitch to get rid of, too. Next time try to not eviscerate them, k?

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  89. Also why a bad movie was enjoyable, which is the key. Something can be fun but not good, and something can be good and not fun.

    see also: Weed, Working out.

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  90. you havent won em all over.

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  91. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Yeah, cultstatus isn't on board yet. But I think he's just being stubborn.

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  92. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Alright. I could put some muscle on your frame. Get you up to 200lb.

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  93. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    I knew that was you.

    Yeah, Old Man Keith didn't care when I came to him and told him about Fuj sexually harassing me, so I don't think he cares about much.

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  94. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    I promise nothing!

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  95. Goldberg v. Jericho is a natural feud though, since you had the issues in WCW, plus a lot of people found out about the Jericho v. Goldberg backstage fight.


    You have two people who the audience feels genuinely don't like each other, which is great.

    You also want to build up Goldberg for HHH, so Jericho is kind of the next best heel. Who else were you going to use on the RAW side for him to kill time with?

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  96. Wow, 2 1/2 stars is way too low. I haven't watched it in years, but I remember it being fantastic. Flair also had one of his best later years promos in the hour before the match, backstage in the locker room with HHH. I still remember Flair coming off the top rope and nailing HHH with an axe handle and JR marking out because he never gets to the top rope without getting thrown off.

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  97. Curb Your Enthusiasm is improvised, so no.


    And given Seinfeld's massive audience, yes, you'd probably hoodwink people. But this is a really dumb argument to make about BBT fans being stupid.

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  98. You brought up Hitler. You lose the argument. Sorry Caliber. :-(

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  99. Did you get some definition yet, cuz last time you were just a mass of bulk with no cuts

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  100. You wanted it.


    stop playing.

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  101. God, I would have been so confused...

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  102. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 4, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Yeah, actually. I cut my carbs down a bit, and dropped about 8-10lbs of fat. It really made a difference in my uppertorso. Like, you can see the top of my abs, and it really made a difference in the chest/trap/shoulder area.

    Sooner or later I'll get enough definition so we can do our Rocky 3 beach run.

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  103. Except he'd still be better than Sheldon, due to writing and that Hyde Pierce is a stronger actor than Parsons.

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  104. He's not crazy. His mother had him tested...


    (Off to hang myself now)

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  105. How many of those series were inexplicably the #1 sitcom on television, and garnered a ridiculous syndication deal wherein they are played in three-hour blocks on TBS??


    To be fair, the first season of Up All Night was mildly fun, thanks to the over-the-top talents of Maya Rudolph.

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  106. Hey, taste, as always, is subjective.

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  107. HIMYM has overstayed, but you're absolutely right--that show knows how to hit emotionally. The handful of storylines dealing with infertility hit home for me personally, and no other current sitcom would bother to go there. It's amusing and inoffensive, and the show's kept talented actors in a nice paycheck for going on nine years. I'm okay with that. But it should be the minimum bar that a sitcom should aspire to.

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  108. I had Two and a Half Men on there. A lot of those NBC shows got into syndication.


    I find Maya Rudolph to be a black hole of comedy so I hated her and her increased role. It's crazy how such a simple sitcom with a simple premise could have such a troubled production history

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  109. On Maya: vastly disagree, but I can easily see how you'd arrive at that point.

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  110. I HATED her on SNL. She'd always do some skit late in the show and it would just be death. Ugh.


    I liked the original concept of Up All Night that didn't involve her being a talk show host. But Bridesmaids.

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  111. Yeah guess you couldn't do that with True Blood either since that show is so batshit insane it's hard to see where it's going at times. One slight TB tidpick, if Bill is all powerful Vamp God why doesn't he just go to the camp, go crazy and start fucking shit up. Rescue everybody and blow up the tainted TB? I can see why he needs Warlow but for now, just rescue everybody. It looks like Eric is going to do all that anyway with just some fairypire blood. But Eric always kicks ass better than Bill. Btw, good review, I'll check out the PPV soon.

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  112. AverageJoeEverymanAugust 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    your first paragraph and second apply to me and not only BBT but also Scrubs. Whenever my wife puts it on I figure I did something wrong and am being punished.

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  113. There is a lot of weight lifting talke between the 2 of you . . .

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  114. This PPV was lacking interest, which is the entire reason why Foley was dusted off for the event. I swear, advertising heading into this event seemed to be doing everything in it's power to remind us that Foley was involved, and make us forget that Kevin Nash was. Also, my use of the word "bust" was indeed about my personal enjoyment, not a statement about the financial success/failure of the event.
    Most sources on the net think this show did 285,000 buys, which is less than you think, but still a respectable number (WWE would probably jump for joy if a non-big 3 event did that number today).

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