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The SmarK RAW Rant–08.05.13

The SmarK RAW Rant – 08.05.13

Live from Green Bay, WI

Your hosts are Michael Cole, JBL & Jerry Lawler

Stephanie McMahon joins us to start, introducing a video package of Daniel Bryan’s corporate makeover. So Daniel is out in his new corporate suit, looking like Damien Sandow. Bryan posits that the company really wants another John Cena, but Cena is an entertainer and he’s a wrestler. Emphatically so. So he’ll dress up for them for now, but only until he makes Cena tap out. So this brings Vince out, mocking the suit and deriding his worthiness as champion. But hey, everything with Vince will be fine…as long as he shaves off the beard. And there’s a chair ready and everything. Wade Barrett gets chosen for the honors of the clipping (due to his own immaculately groomed facial hair and barbering lineage), but Bryan suckers him in and then shaves off half of Barrett’s beard instead. So that’s a no on the shaving.

Rob Van Dam v. Alberto Del Rio

Rob gets the monkey flip out of the corner and standing moonsault for two to start. The Miz is on commentary for some reason, in case anyone cares. They fight to the floor and we take a break. Back with RVD hitting a missile dropkick and spinkick for two. Moonsault hits knee, but Ricardo puts the bucket in the corner and ADR gets sent into it and pinned at 6:35. I’m still surprised they didn’t run with this as the Summerslam match. Match was fine, although most of it took place during the break. ** Poor Ricardo gets abused and left for dead for his transgressions, which would appear to be the end of their relationship.

Cody Rhodes is out to return Sandow’s rightful briefcase after another lengthy video package, and they brawl to a dead crowd. This Cody face turn is dying fast.

Ryback v. Mark Henry

Henry overpowers him, but Ryback slugs away and then bails when Henry fights back. And he walks out at 1:41. They sure do love that finish, don’t they? DUD

Meanwhile, The Bellas get all catty with Nattie.

John Cena is out to offer his rebuttal to Daniel Bryan, because gosh-darnit he just loves WWE so much. He gives an impassioned promo, to which the crowd gives him a “boring” chant. This brings out Randy Orton to remind us that he has the briefcase, and then the Shield attacks for some reason, and Daniel Bryan saves, and we have a six-man main event.

Brodus Clay & Tensai v. The Wyatt Family

Tensai smacks Luke Harper around, but gets double-teamed and splashed by Rowan for the pin at 1:18. After Bray Wyatt accidentally cues Sportsnet into going to commercial early with his blackout gimmick, Kane pops up to inform us that the ring will be on fire at Summerslam or something. Gotta say, we’ve seen “Kane goes soft and then has to find his inner monster again” as a storyline something like a dozen times already now.

Kaitlyn v. Layla

So Layla turned heel for some reason on Smackdown. She survives a spear and comes back with a DDT for two, but Kaitlyn fights back with the backbreaker and a Pounce. Gutbuster sets up the spear, but AJ skips out, and Kaitlyn gets distracted so that Layla can finish with the high kick at 3:00. So this feud apparently must continue. ½*

Christian v. Heath Slater

Christian quickly gets cornered by 3MB, allowing Slater to take over. Christian comes back with the sunset flip for two, and finishes with a spear at 3:15. This was fine. **

CM Punk v. Curtis Axel

Axel attacks on the floor, but Punk works on the leg and clotheslines him to the floor. Punk follows with a dive and we take a break. Back with Axel getting two off a clothesline and dropping an elbow for two. Axel works a headlock and gets another clothesline for two, but Punk comes back with a crossbody. They brawl outside as Axel takes over again and the boring chant starts, but Punk finally makes the comeback for real. He goes up and gets crotched, and Axel gets a neckbreaker for two. And then Punk goes after Heyman for a random DQ at 11:18. ** Brock Lesnar comes out to protect his manager, but this time Punk is ready for him. They have a GREAT heated brawl and Punk escapes the F5, but goes after Heyman again and a second one puts him down. Heyman directs Brock to “hurt him”, so he does. Now there’s someone who can take direction. This finally woke up the crowd.

Fandango v. Kofi Kingston

New long tights for Kofi tonight. Fandango quickly takes over and gets two off a short clothesline, and a butt-butt gets two. Kneedrop misses and Kofi comes back with the boomdrop, prompting Fandango to bail. He gets a rollup for two and goes up, but misses and Kofi gets a bodypress for two. Trouble in Paradise finishes at 3:42. Nice little match. **1/4

The Usos v. The Real Americans

One of the Usos gets trapped in the American corner and double-teamed in impressive fashion, but comes back with an enzuigiri and makes the hot tag to Jey. He hits Cesaro with Cheeks of Fire and superkicks him for two, but Swagger gets a cheapshot and the Neutralizer finishes at 4:50. Crowd wasn’t much into it, but they’re not into much tonight. **

Dolph Ziggler v. Big E Langston

We’ll see how they get themselves out of this one. Langston quickly overpowers Dolph and knocks him out of the ring, and back in for two. Big E misses a charge and Ziggler comes back with a neckbreaker for two. Big E gets a backbreaker for two, but the Warrior splash misses and Dolph hits a fameasser for two. And now Kaitlyn joins us for the brawl with AJ, which allows Big E to finish at 4:12. Man, poor Dolph. *1/2 And what’s with the ref letting the chicks fight in the ring with no DQ when Punk got DQ’d for just touching Heyman earlier?

The Shield v. Daniel Bryan, John Cena & Randy Orton

This doesn’t even START until the three-hour mark of the show! The faces work Rollins over and then Bryan comes in as the corporate face-in-peril, but comes back with the Yes-Lock on Ambrose before the other Shield members come in for the DQ at 5:20. Nothing to this. *1/2 Orton lays out both Cena and Bryan with RKOs and threatens to cash in, but the Shield returns to prevent it and we get another brawl to end things.

The Pulse

Kind of a boring show with ridiculously bad finishes all over the place, as usual. It feels like they’ve got everything set for Summerslam and just don’t know what to do with the last couple of weeks beforehand. Punk-Lesnar was GREAT and well worth tracking down, though.

Comments

  1. I'm predicting it now - next week, somebody gets DQed for throwing their opponent over the top rope.

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  2. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Statler: "I can't wait for Summerslam! CM Punk is gonna put Brock Lesnar to sleep!"


    Waldorf: "Brock should consider himself so lucky!"


    Statler: "Oh yeah? How so?"


    Waldorf: "Well, when CM Punk puts someone to sleep, they're out for three seconds. When RAW puts us to sleep, we're out for three hours!"


    DOHOHOHOHO!

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  3. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Speaking of SS, I got my ticket today! Anyone else on the BoD besides jobber going out to Staples Center?

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  4. I don't think that was ever a standard rule in WWF.... Maybe in the WWWF?

    Maybe if Jacques Roguea comes out of retirement to referee a "Provience of Quebec" rules match.

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  5. Bill Watts would be proud! & he really needs something to be proud of cause Erik didn't turn out so well.

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  6. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    “Kane goes soft and then has to find his inner monster again”


    IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

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  7. They really have lost all sense of direction and purpose with the Shield, haven't they? There is absolutely no rhyme or reason behind their attacks anymore.

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  8. I think you glossed over the Del Rio beatdown of Ricardo. It seemed pretty brutal (or at least as brutal as they can be). His bump out of the ring was vicious, and the stairs to the head was a great spot.

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  9. It's like the writing team started playing Extreme Warfare Revenge and instead of put together a show, they clicked on auto booker.

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  10. I agree, there were some more vicious than usual bumps tonight, Ricardo's (which for a minute actually had me legitimately wondering if he was injured), and CM Punk taking that belly to belly suplex on the floor. And maybe it's just me, but I was pretty amused by Kane's promo and who doesn't love an inferno match? lol.

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  11. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 5, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    I wished they used SVR 06's GM Mode auto-booker; that way we could have Hell in a Cell, an Iron Man match, and a Tables match on the same night!

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  12. I did always like his "Rules were meant to be broken" mantra for those things he didn't allow in Pro Wrestling. You can't jump off the top rope, so when someone did it, it was a big deal, etc.

    It's sort of what makes the Punk v. Heyman program and Cena vs. Punk so awesome, they're doing things other guys aren't being allowed to do, thus making it feel dangerous and dynamic.

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  13. There hasn't really been any since after Heyman stopped paying them off.


    Sure there was no rhyme or reason to tonight's attack but they DESPERATELY needed a shot in the arm. It's better than what they've been doing.

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  14. I might be. Looking pretty likely actually.

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  15. That's why they have the US & Tag Titles.

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  16. I remember a Nitro many moons ago where that happened and Hugh Morris tried to jump off the Hell in a Cell.

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  17. Threadjack: CM Punk's GrammarSlam is here and it is glorious!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13FV1GaA20I&feature=share&list=PLl4T6p7km9dba5JgQ-otWzT-ozeecDbW8

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  18. That has to be the most heat Del Rio's drawn in a long time. Those boos were pretty legit.

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  19. Yeah, these days they seem to come out, just because. At least in the early days, they could rationalize their attacks by saying that they're guns for hire. I have no idea why they abandoned that line of reasoning.

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  20. I hope they used the Scotsman recap instead.

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  21. We've heard before how most of WWE's audience doesn't care about wrestling as much as sports entertainment but this show proved that's wrong. Daniel Bryan got one of the loudest pops on the show for proclaiming "I AM A WRESTLER!" I think a lot of people underrate that people actually DO like wrestling and it just isn't "us" who loves to see great wrestling. Plenty of WWE fans are the same.

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  22. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 6, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    As someone with a newly minted degree in English Ed, I can fap to this all day.

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  23. Well, to be fair, Vince seems to forget that second "W" on a weekly basis, so you can hardly blame him for that constant slip.

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  24. I understand that most people are lax on their grammar on the internet, but god damn, at least act like you learned something in grade school.

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  25. I think in Vince's head he believe's he is WE.... World Entertainment.

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  26. That literally made my head explode. Did it do the same for you'res?

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  27. Well Green Bay is a smart town.

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  28. I guess they're all smart towns now.


    Thanks CM Punk for teaching me which form of they're to use!

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  29. There's just not enough time in the show for that kind of character development.

    Hopefully they will move to four hours soon so they can give these stories the attention they deserve.

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  30. I was actually pretty excited when Kane said he'd face Wyatt at Summerslam because it ensures that we aren't going to get aimless beatdowns forever and also that odds are Wyatt wins. Obviously Kane hasn't been kicking ass in singles matches on PPV lately but I thought he and Bray could have a psychical and quick match but an inferno match usually isn't all that good and is very limiting. But hey, Bray gets a big gimmick match in his first PPV so that's cool.

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  31. They're there with their friends!

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  32. Say something stupid, Fuj!

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  33. I can't believe this exists. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen.

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  34. Zanadude is a genius!

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  35. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 6, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    so, i might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure the outfits the funkadactyls were wearing were the ones that naomi feared would show all her cookies

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  36. I enjoyed most of tonight's show.

    I thought Bryan & Cena's promos were great and would have been perfect if Vince, Orton etc. were left out.

    One thing I didnt realize, because i'm usually focused on what is over with me - was how CRAZY over Kaitlyn is now with little girls and children.

    I work in a youth center where a ton of the kids are into wrestling, and all the girls absolutely LOVE her - im thinking that WWE might really have something here with her chasing the heel champion.

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  37. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    yeah, when i saw the stairs spot, i was thinkin' 'um, did he just get wellness'd again or something?'

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  38. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 6, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    'IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN'

    *looks around*


    heh heh heh, mule

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  39. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 6, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    you do realize that youre obligated to wear either a statler or waldorf mask, right?

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  40. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 6, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    or regal and a duchess of queensbury match

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3fLoF-Jus0

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  41. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    F that, I'm gonna bring the actual puppets! And I'll be sitting in the upper concourse, just like how those two would want it.

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  42. Please don't ask me how I feel...

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  43. Here's a scenario after tonight: SummerSlam, Bryan beats Cena.

    Out comes Orton to cash-in. Ding, the bell rings, match is on. Cena interferes, either giving Orton the DQ win (so no title) or DB the win. This segues into Orton-Cena and, after tonight, DB's challenger is Barrett.

    Much like with Macho Man's title runs in WWF and WCW, the Hogan (Cena) feid overshadows the champion's feud.

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  44. Isn't it crazy how just hearing the word wrestler(or wrestling) on WWE tv is enough to make me rejoice?

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  45. HOW ARE THE MATCHES SO SHORT ON A THREE HOUR SHOW!?!?!?

    Oh and also, I hope you rot in Hell, Kain Carter.

    If you know what I'm talking about, holla at me.

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  46. That was a nasty bump Ricardo took to the floor. I was wondering if they let Del Rio stiff Ricardo as extra punishment for the wellness violation, since Ricardo's screw-up likely hurt Del Rio's heat/momentum at a time when they were really trying to push him as champion.

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  47. How many times has Ambrose defended the US title? Once?

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  48. Has there ever been a MITB winner who didn't get a chance to cash in the title shot? I feel like they're heading for a Rhodes-Sandow match with the contract on the line -- even though Sandow would be dumb to agree to that stipulation when he doesn't have to -- and as often as Sandow loses, it'd make sense if he lost again.
    If they do have Sandow keep the briefcase, I'm almost certain he'll lose his title challenge. Del Rio is probably going over Christian at SummerSlam, but I'd bet RVD beats Del Rio for the title after that, then Sandow will try to cash in on RVD and lose.

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  49. Because it's not like they have an extra hour on Wednesday, an extra hour on Thursday, an extra two hours on Friday and an extra hour on the weekend for character development.

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  50. So a week after they do the right thing with Ryback and (apparently) start to build him back up as a dangerous bully -- plus giving Cena a battle -- they have him acting like a coward again by being scared of Henry?

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  51. It's still an upgrade over being scared of The Miz.

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  52. Considering their illogical obsession with DQs, I'm wondering why they haven't revived that retarded rule by now.

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  53. Daniel Bryan,America's favorite Washingtonian, looking dapper in the suit. Vince is right the pants are a little on the short side and the brown shoes blue suit is questionable. But, in Bryan's defense most people in Aberdeen are lumberjacks.So its amazing he even learned how to use silverware let alone to tie a tie.Take that Aberdeen, come as you are indeed. The beard is here, I dig that.
    Its good to see Ricardo back and it would be really good to see Alberto win a goddamn match.
    I just watched Wrestlemania last week and dont remember anything from that Ryback/Henry match. I remember even less about this one.
    Cena with a money promo of his own, his elbow does look like a football. That match is gonna be off the charts.
    I used to not like Kaitlin, or I guess now K8lyn, but seeing that she's a fellow unicorn enthusiast I'm starting to warm up to her
    Punk vs Axel was ok, but were the cheeseheads really chanting this is awesome?Let's not get carried away.Here comes the pain.Punk vs Lesnar is going to be dynamite. Heyman showing some chutzpah challenging Punk for next week.
    The Usos vs Cesaro & Swagger was as good as you could ask for out of a 5 minute tag match on Raw.
    You know, I wasn't planning on watching Total Divas but since Life & style says "It's a knockout" that makes it must see tv in my book, said nobody ever. A sneak peek of Summer camp and that kids is why we dvr and fast forward. Brooke Mangum,if that is in fact her real name, is quite the fox.
    I had my hopes up for the 6 man main event and the match didnt live up to its potential awesomeness but I did enjoy the teasing of the cash in and the Shield beatdown at the end.

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  54. And none of it was ever mentioned on Thunder.

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  55. I hate the commercial's thing and the short matches too. Maybe it's their way of trying to make PPV's seem more appealing by saying "You want long matches where you see the whole thing? Buy the PPV suckah"

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  56. That's probably it. But still, if the main event is Cena/Bryan/Orton vs. The Shield, technically there's nothing at stake. The storyline is between the three guys on the same side and you could have one of them screw their own team in a loss in a 15-20 minute match.

    If the biggest draw of the show is in one match, give them the largest segment!

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  57. Totally agree. It's so frustrating that they can open with a 20 minute interview segment uninterrupted but once they starts wrestling they can't go 5 minutes without a commercial.

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  58. what color belt did he have on?


    The belt and the shoes are supposed to match.

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  59. Me. Got some shit seats, but I'm going.

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  60. Why did the Horsemen beat people up? Cause they're the motherfucking Horsemen, that's why. Same logic applies to the Shield.

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  61. The coward/destiny thing killed ADR's heel run. When he first showed up and was killing Mysterio and breaking arms left and right he was pretty over. He's got good execution and good moves, plus he's naturally smug enough to add the extra umph to the beatdowns.


    Speaking of which...y'think they're going to bring up the "Christian was out for 8 months cause of ADR" thing?

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  62. In the history of our sport?

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  63. She's also tapped out clean to AJ like 4 times.

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  64. Most people are trained to watch wrestling on Monday nights.

    They should just combine it all into one eight hour show.

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  65. He's getting back with AJ?

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  66. I don't know if Macho Man is a good comparison, however if Bryan wins the belt he will be treated to a Bret Hart / CM Punk style title reign. Cena will still be the real champion.

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  67. Scott not commenting on Brock's post beat down promo is a rather glaring omission from this rant.

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  68. He was distracted by Paul Heyman's hideous body.

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  69. Dude, I didn't even mention CM Punk, who I respect greatly as a wrestler, and people were comparing him to Wolverine for Christ sake. Let it go dude.

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  70. Yeah - but im just saying that I didnt realize how popular she is with kids until now. Layla as a babyface was not going to work, too natural as a heel, but Kaitlyn seems really likeable and fitting in the main babyface role of the womens division. Too bad the focus in the women is on the reality show. That backstage segment with the Bellas and Eva Marie made porn acting look oscar worthy.

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  71. The color of money.

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  72. Usually it's the manager's client that gets DQed IIRC.

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  73. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 6, 2013 at 5:39 AM

    I'm confused here. What?

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  74. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 6, 2013 at 5:41 AM

    Tony Schiavone posts here? Awesome.

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  75. Even then, the Horsemen still had a logical reason for their target.


    Immediate rival
    Friend of rival
    Insulted them recently
    Sending a message to rival
    Training session
    Only girls at the hotel were Rock and Roll Express groupies
    Warm beer/poor liquor at the bar

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  76. Caliber_Winfield_The_3rdAugust 6, 2013 at 5:43 AM

    I have to admit, that "only girls" line made me laugh, because I thought of the Horsemen getting together and saying "Dammit! Only chicks last night were RnR groupies! I'm so pissed about this I say we go beat up Ronnie Garvin!"

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  77. It literally could be. It's possible that it actually is the greatest thing he's ever seen.

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  78. Again, a Divas porn movie needs to happen. (HLA theme preferred, but I wouldn't be THAT picky)

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  79. No it doesn't.


    There is no logic to the Shield any longer.

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  80. Anderson (Back when he was Kennedy) lost his MITB to Edge.

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  81. But wouldn't they go beat up the RnR if they were pissed at only RnR groupies being at the bar?


    Otherwise it wouldn't be logical.

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  82. 6 and 7 can lead to 4.


    Horsemen beat the shit out of Rocky King to let the R&R's know they're next.

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  83. You are aware of the real "reason" behind that line... maybe?

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  84. You right.


    My bad Cal. I was going more linear.

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  85. Who doesn't terrified of Henry?

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  86. Thunder has a thing for body builder physices, there was an incident where he comented on how Punk wasn't in excellent shape and Zanadude has done that thing where he locks on to a target and mercilessly assaults them with his barbed wit. It'll blow over when Zana finds a new target.


    No offense Zanadude, you're one of my favorite commenters for entertainment purposes, I enjoy the games--and your rise from troll to a top poster is astounding.

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  87. Don't you mean that Green Bay is a *mic drops from ceiling* SMAAAAAAAARRRRRRTTTTTTTT TOOOOOOWWWWWWNNNNN...Smart Town!

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  88. I'm disappointed that you skipped over the Brock/Paul promo in the back where Brock told Paul to say something stupid...

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  89. I enjoy that Vince had a tie with a baby blue knot, but felt comfortable criticizing ANYONE else on their wardrobe.

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  90. I'm debating if this needs it's own thread--It's literaly The most important work of art in history. What's you're opinion, should I wait a while than post it, but it's better then Raw was, so maybe I should just post it ASAP. Perhaps I should E-mail it to Scott so he can post it when he's threw watching them

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  91. I hope there's a should of episode.

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  92. Is that how it works?

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  93. thats what ive been told, and i dont look up suit rules.


    I always get my guy at Men's wearhouse to fit me.

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  94. I just don't go to anything where a suit is mandatory.


    Funerals, weddings, work... all negative occasions.

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  95. YankeesHoganTripleHFanAugust 6, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    One advantage to the 3 hour raw. Cause of a change in work schedule I don't get home until 8:30 or so and I have Raw recording on the DVR. With the 3 hour show there is enough filler that I can get caught up quick.


    Why does the Shield dislike Daniel Bryan exactly? Isn't he the type of wrestling they would be fighting for?

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  96. I was watching the Kane promo thinking that he and Undertaker are the last of the real "gimmicks" in WWE, but then I was wondering ... do Fandango, Bray Wyatt and Sheamus count as gimmicks or just characters?
    The biggest tell-tale sign of a gimmick is when the character has a "real job" that isn't "pro wrestler." Doink was a clown who wrestled; Big Boss Man was a cop who wrestled; Undertaker was a mortician who wrestled. Or it's somebody with an unrealistic back story, like Kane being burned in a fire and locked in a closet for 20 years, or Undertaker being something between a zombie and a human, or anybody who was from "Parts Unknown." The last sign is anybody whose name isn't like a real name: Ultimate Warrior, Mr. Perfect, Brooklyn Brawler, etc.
    Almost every WWE character today is a "real" person with a "real" name whose job is "pro wrestler": John Cena, Alberto Del Rio, Curtis Axel, Daniel Bryan, Randy Orton, etc.
    Sheamus doesn't have a "real" name, but is he a gimmick or just character with a nickname? Fandango is somewhat billed as a dancer who wrestles, but maybe he's just billed as a wrestler who likes to dance. Same with Bray Wyatt: Cult leader who wrestles, or wrestler who leads a cult?
    I would say those three are characters rather than gimmicks, and that Kane and Taker are the last two gimmicks standing, but I wonder what everybody else thinks.

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  97. Sheamus has a real name (Sheamus O'Shaunessy).

    But he's a Celtic Warrior, so perhaps he is a character as well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwDmObQODh4

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  98. Okay, first off: Worst. Crowd. Ever. AJ and Kaitlyn could have stripped naked in the ring and started feeling each other up and that crowd wouldn't have made a damn sound.

    For the love of god, knock it the hell off with the walkout finish. Henry v. Ryback was a spectacular waste of time.

    So what do they do with Ricardo now? Pair him up with Christian? That has some good comedy potential like the old days of Christian and Tomko.

    Punk/Lesnar has a chance to be incredible, and the brawl was awesome, but I'm wondering how long they plan to stretch this out for Heyman to finally get what's coming to him. And Brock: "Paul - say something stupid." Awesome.

    And they pretty much blew off the Ziggler/Big E issue on free TV over a period of a few weeks. Now what?

    Finally, I was disappointed to see the Usos job - they were really getting built up as something special, and jobbing them to a worthless sack of crap like Swagger is just stupid. Yes, Cesaro got the pin, but all this means is that we get to endure another four months of this "Real Americans" BS gimmick.

    At least Summerslam is shaping up to be a really good show.

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  99. Yeah, when White Thunder starts no-selling, I'm finished.

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  100. There's only one way for Daniel Bryan to prove that he has the Ruthless Aggression© necessary to be WWE Champion.


    He's gotta fuck Nikki.

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  101. That's why I requested clarification. I would literally be amazed and saddened if that was literally the greatest thing he's ever seen.

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  102. This is literally the most over gimmick in the history of the BoD.

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  103. I don't know... faux-Gorilla/Bobby has to be right up there. Along with Jef's semi-random GIFs

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  104. Was it only certain feeds where the crowd was ridiculously obviously sweetened? Chanting "This is Awesome" during that run of the mill Punk/Axel match, popping for everything, chanting for goddamn Kofi during his match, and meanwhile every crowd shot show them sitting on their hands? Very noticeable last night.

    As much as this show was a little unfocused, I like the way tag teams, managers, and stables are back in. Even if its not always the greatest show its just easier to watch because it feels like wrestling that I grew up on.

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  105. *sniff*


    Thanks everybody.


    I'M FEELING THE LOVE!!!

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  106. Hey - I LIKE goddamn Kofi. He's entertaining as hell and puts on a good show. Fandango is just awful, but that was a pretty good little match.


    But you're absolutely right re: "this is awesome" during Punk/Axel. And Axel is just worthless - they should have had Brock beat the shit out of him during that interview segment to really enforce what an out-of-control monster he is.

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  107. Both at the same time or GTFO.

    Daniel Bryan: "Big tits... little tits... big tits... little tits..."

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  108. I choose to sell the positives, like A-Rod.

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  109. They should really re-run that main event. Give it a half hour and those six guys could probably have a great TV match.

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  110. Maybe I'm insane for genuinely buying into total divas, but i find the (relatively) level headed, flatter chested Brie Bella to be far far superior to Nikki in everyway.

    You kind of wonder if their whole relationship is a shoot or if the bellas are just living their gimmick, I just find it neat that their differences are emphasized by the extremely different men in their lives.

    It's almost very rocky/apollo of them.

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  111. Then Macho Man (first reign at least) is the perfect comparison.

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  112. "So what do they do with Ricardo now? Pair him up with Christian? That has some good comedy potential like the old days of Christian and Tomko." Actually I think this could be a great idea. At Summer Slam Christian could introduce Ricardo - and then he turns against Christian and it was just a trick. ;)

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  113. Must've been, because the crowd absolutely SUCKED for the portions of the show that I bothered watching. Worst crowd I can remember in ages.

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  114. Does anyone else think that Kane was hinting at an Inferno Match vs Bray Wyatt? I don't exactly want that, but nobody else can make heads or tails out of the Ring of Fire thing

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  115. The fact that this was one of the worst crowds in some time is of absolutely no shock. Green Bay's always been a lukewarm city at best, and this was the same city that Vince actually came to the ring and chewed out for being so passive during a Raw episode in 2011. I'm amazed they even *got* another Raw after that; more amazing will be if they ever get another.

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  116. On the other side... if a commercial is during a match, they can wrestle, because nothing special will happen, but what if you would interrupt an interview segment - should they just wait for the commercial or should they go on and we get replays after the break?


    I think short matches are OK, because it IS all about the PPV.

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  117. I agree with your take that given who each of their boyfriends are, I think that tells the story that they are VERY different (even though Bryan living at his parents' house in Aberdeen, WA is exaggerated... he lives in San Diego).

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  118. Seems like it might just be a new name for the Inferno Match.

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  119. I think it was a challenge for a match where they had to listen to Johnny Cash until one of them became sane.

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  120. Yeah I thought that was off considering we just saw his apartment in the first episode...oh well. I actually genuinely think his place in Aberdeen (and Aberdeen itself) looks beautiful.

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  121. This is a guaranteed 30+ up votes every single time!

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  122. Yes, where the hell do they sell ties that the knot is a different color than the rest? Not that I want one, but I'd never seen one before last night.

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  123. I thought Bryan and Cena's promos were both good, but I can't stand when Cena slips into that freestyle rap accent (not sure what to call it that wouldn't be offensive). Vince kicking the barber cape or whatever it was and flinging it into the crowd as Bryan's music was playing was amusing as well.


    There seems to be very little synergy coming out of Total Divas... besides a feud between the Bellas and Natalya, they haven't followed up on anything with Cena/Bryan and the Bellas, Fandango after this past week, or the Uso that's with Naomi.

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  124. The crowd was dead because the Packers lost Bryan Bulaga for the season earlier in the day?


    I'll take "Absurd Wrestling Theories" for $600, Alex.

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  125. Punk/Lesnar will be the male equivalent of Aja Kong vs GAEA Trainee Girl.

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  126. Outside of the shit that apparently covers every square inch of grass.

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  127. I hate Inferno Matches. They're so boring.

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  128. Yeah, aside from Punk/Lesnar stuff this show was boring.


    Kofi is back and he has new tights, yawn.


    Cody's face turn is probably dying because he is upset for a stupid reason. They were in a competitive match, every man for himself, he looks like a whiner, loser.

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  129. I wish they'd go with Orton as special referee for Cena/Bryan at SummerSlam. Then Orton could just knock out Cena, cash in Money in the Bank and count his own pinfall as referee.

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  130. He had a similar one a few weeks ago, as well.

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  131. Why was cena trying to talk black during his promo? That's fucking embarrassing

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  132. He has been doing that schtick since 03...

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  133. I thought he dropped that voice years ago when he stoped rapping. That was hard to watch yo!

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  134. In fact it wasn't much different than seeing bieber in that hat on the sidelines of that heat game

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  135. He and ambrose were worst enemies in the indys?

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  136. I love you'r posts.

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  137. That...is not a bad idea. And Summerslam main event has a history of special ref main events (HBK in 97, Ventura in 990

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  138. Has anyone seen or plugged this, yet? CM Punk: Fighting the Good Fight for Grammar.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_175066661&feature=iv&list=PLl4T6p7km9dba5JgQ-otWzT-ozeecDbW8&src_vid=8HpC4R-JKZ8&v=13FV1GaA20I

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  139. Agreed - the directionless beat-downs have already killed a lot of their initial interest, glad that this is (seemingly) a sign that the random beat-downs won't last much longer.



    A crazy redneck cult is a GREAT gimmick, but not if there's no real rhyme or reason to the attacks. Beating up low-card guys doesn't serve any real purpose.

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  140. Wearhouse is solid. Great prices. Good selection.


    And they always have a promotion going on. I'll probably get a free tie just for mentioning them like this.

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  141. Geez, I thought my audio was cutting out.

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  142. Cody could definitely be a good face, but I think most of the audience agrees with you - he wants revenge for (and is bullying someone over) losing fairly and squarely in an every-man-for-himself match. Lame.

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  143. Yep, mentioned earlier. It's on the first set of oldest replies in this post.

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  144. Scream09_HartKillerAugust 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    That's what makes this company, and this country great. It doesn't matter if you hate John Cena's attempted hip hop talk, it's your right to voice your opinion because you're passionate.

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  145. "Axel, say something stupid"


    (Axel opens mouth, Brock beats him to pulp, picks up IC belt, sneers, drops it on the Axel-lump.)

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  146. Ah, okay. Sorry about that.

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  147. He also responded by stealing Sandow's case and refusing to return it. The thief is the bad guy!

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  148. I personally think that when tries to talk gameshow host, it is more embarrassing.

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  149. I sold suits for a bit in college, and Vince was way off base deriding D-Bry for brown shoes with a blue suit. Brown with blue has been de rigeur for years. Black shoes with blue looks like an IBM employee from the 60s.

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  150. Llol. That is some funny shit, well done sir.

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  151. John Cena, hero to millions, is totally above wrestling in gyms and armories like every wrestler to ever work before 2000ish. In fact, if you don't wrestle for WWE he feels you should retire. Thankfully, he doesn't care if the fans like him. What a charmer.

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  152. Your_Favourite_AssholeAugust 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    dbrys jacket was too small tho

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  153. It seems they've given up on the whole "cause" thing with the Shield. They're basically just some guys at this point

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  154. Yeah, that was one hell of a heel promo. What a douche (his character is),

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  155. The crowd was chanting "this is awesome" during Punk-Axel, for what it's worth.

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  156. The Cena character is basically as likeable as Justin Bieber.

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  157. It was totally piped

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  158. If the match ends with Jimmy Hart and Raymond coming out for a live cut of All-American Boys, I'm in.

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  159. My feel on this is that they don't really care if a crowd is dead. They like hot crowds and know where they will get them, but they really only care about the box office, the merch sales, and ratings.

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  160. Fandango walking out of a match is fine. Ryback walking out of a match is stupid.

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  161. Let's not give them ideas. Three hours is bad enough.

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  162. Blue suit with brown shoes is correct.

    http://www.effortlessgent.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/brownOrBlack_EG_visualGuide.png

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  163. Jive-gameshow host trumps all, of course.

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  164. Short Star/Jobber matches: Fine by me.


    Short Star/Star matches... Bleh. If they can't be 10 min+, DON'T BOOK THEM.


    Tag matches: Unless it's champs/high contenders vs. lowest jobbers, 10+ minutes required.


    (This MAY be modified for certain angles/interference, but should be kept to a minimum.)

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  165. Given that Kane is 1-3 in Inferno Matches, maybe he should go with your idea instead.

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  166. You're right!

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  167. Yeah that was a weird promo.

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  168. The greatest possible culmination of the Bryan/McMahon angle would be Bryan choking McMahon with his own necktie. This show was made by the way Bryan headbutted Barrett. The way he suckered him in ("Can I just keep this spot here") and then nailed him, that was a Jason Statham/Liam Neeson level of badassery.

    Also, I don't want to hear another word about Cody shaving his mustache. It looks cool. Anyone who can't cheer for a guy with a 'stache isn't worth having as a fan. Take that hair off his upper lip and he's going to look incredibly bland, like the clean shaven John Oates. Screw you to all the fans who sat on their hands for that angle; I felt like I was watching Magnum TA go after Tully Blanchard, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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  169. Ha!

    I certainly didn't hear a "boring" chant during the match though.

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  170. Ventura in 88

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  171. Don't be sorry. Any mention/reminder of it is a good thing.

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  172. Lighting someone on fire isn't very PG. I'm guessing it's a hot wing eating contest.

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  173. Wait, you're saying if I wear black shows with dark blue pants, I look like an idiot?

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  174. I think he was trying to express how much respect he had for the WWE, its fans and the championship.

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  175. Also, him and Sandow were both running around in their pretty suits. Aside from Flair, when has a babyface worn a suit?

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  176. Total Divas is its own little fake reality. It's 100% scripted, but it was also taped four months ago so none of what thy do should be expected to cross-over to what's happeneing on screen today. I think the fans that type of reality show appeals to knows/expects that its pretaped, and it doesn't play like a WWE property to begin with. It's a fake reality show.

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  177. The opening 20-minute segment was basically an informercial for "The Beard is Here!" t-shirts.

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  178. The giant condom Kane will role onto his arm to do that finish isn't very PG-13 either.

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  179. Kane WON in an Inferno match? I only remember him ever being in 2... both losses against The Undertaker (at Unforgiven '98 and then on Raw about a year later).


    What were the other ones?

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  180. They said they were going to live there when they're done with WWE. They probably keep the apartment in San Diego and use that as their home base during the year because it's easier to get flights out of there to whereever the TV/shows are that week instead of Bumblefuck, Washington.

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  181. Ricardo could just as easily apologize for his transgressions on Smackdown Friday and be back in Del Rio's corner.

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  182. He's so scared of Henry, just mentioning him in a sentence ruins his grammar.

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  183. I said that in the live thread. I guess Sandra(?) gave in and fixed it.


    Let's google Naomi's cookies and see what we get.

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  184. I really want to tell you how much I hate this idea and how it's a Russoriffic pile of garbage.

    But it really isn't, especially if they did it in the middle of the match. I've been waiting since the concepts creation for someone to cash in their shot DURING another title defense.



    I'm not sure how it would work beyond being a triple threat, unless it was a triple threat where the challengers could only pick up a fall on the champ and not each other.

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  185. That was his punishment for getting wellness'd in the first place.


    BE A STAR!

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  186. Heh, you got me, then!

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  187. I don't think so, he's just a mid-card guy to me no matter what they do. They have him murder Ricardo like that, but it's still going to be the guy fourth from the top at best. Same thing as a face. They poured all that effort into getting him a legit heel to fight, anti-American Jack Swagger and he was still just fourth from the top.


    No matter how badly they want him at the top, he's just a mid-card guy.

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