Shawn Michaels Update
According to his sources, Mike Johnson reports that there is an offer for Shawn to wrestle at WrestleMania 30. The belief is that if he does wrestle, it will be against Daniel Bryan and not against CM Punk.
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
Top Match For WrestleMania Being Discussed
As of right now, the plan for CM Punk at WrestleMania is to wrestle HHH
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
Kayfabe Commentaries Announces Release Date for Next Installment of Their Timeline Series
1993 WCW as told by Vader will be released on February 4th
http://kayfabecommentaries.com/
WWE Releases Developmental Talent
Kevin Nikels, who wrestled in NXT as Knuckles Madsen, was released. He had been with the company for little over a year.
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
According to his sources, Mike Johnson reports that there is an offer for Shawn to wrestle at WrestleMania 30. The belief is that if he does wrestle, it will be against Daniel Bryan and not against CM Punk.
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
Top Match For WrestleMania Being Discussed
As of right now, the plan for CM Punk at WrestleMania is to wrestle HHH
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
Kayfabe Commentaries Announces Release Date for Next Installment of Their Timeline Series
1993 WCW as told by Vader will be released on February 4th
http://kayfabecommentaries.com/
WWE Releases Developmental Talent
Kevin Nikels, who wrestled in NXT as Knuckles Madsen, was released. He had been with the company for little over a year.
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
I dunno, I'd almost rather see Evil DX vs. Bryan/Punk in a five-star tag match because I trust HBK can carry the action on his end and I don't think HHH can go 25 minutes with Punk in a singles match at a good pace.
ReplyDeleteSad that I would actually trust HBK to do proper business these days more than HHH.
The first 2 make me feel that I nailed my Wrestlemania card of
ReplyDeletePunk/HHH
HBK/Bryan
Taker/Lesnar
Cena/Orton
Agreed.
ReplyDeleteSo it's fair to say the "Career Threatening" Match gimmick is dead, right?
ReplyDeleteNot dead, it just goes away for a while and then comes back.
ReplyDeleteFair point
ReplyDeleteOdds hhh goes over punk? If he was gonna job why not put Bryan over to pay off the fucking angle. It would be a shame to waste either punk or Bryan in a shitty hhh match but he runs the company so...
ReplyDeleteSee, I really don't feel like coming back for one more match taints the retirement stipulation. It's not like Savage coming back 6 months after mania 7 and returning to a fulltime schedule. HBK really did retire, we'll never see him as a regular member of the roster again. It's just one match.
ReplyDeleteI hope we get Taker vs Cena alongside Punk-HHH and Bryan-HBK. Orton can face Sheamus or something. Taker vs Brock does nothing for me personally
ReplyDeleteAny chance they do the right thing for the live crowd and put hbk/Bryan on last
ReplyDeleteI have absolutely zero interest in seeing Punk/HHH. They will probably be able to tell a good story but I would be happy never seeing HHH in the ring ever again.
ReplyDeleteGod, I mean logic dictates that HHH and HBK put Punk and Bryan over clean as a sheet, preferably both tapping out... but who knows. I mean, are BOTH members of DX gonna job to the indie geeks on the same night? Probably HHH goes over at Mania and then he jobs to Punk the next month on a show that a tenth of the Mania viewers end up seeing.
ReplyDeleteThey're more like a "Career inconveniencing" matches now.
ReplyDeleteUgh, so I guess we're getting Lesnar/Taker instead of Punk/Lesnar and Cena/Taker? Fuck that. I absolutely couldn't give any less shits about seeing Taker/Lesnar.
ReplyDeleteI think it depends where it is on the card and who else is winning. If it ends up being Orton/Cena for the title, Taker/Brock, and Bryan/Michaels, you have to assume Taker's not jobbing, Bryan has to get a win over a retired guy, and Cena wins because Cena.
ReplyDeleteThat leaves Punk as the one face who kinda has to job, right? Can all the heels lose?
Of course, we could wind up with Punk/Michaels and Bryan/HHH,
I also have no shits to give about Lesnar/Taker. Maybe if I eat some taco bell I can muster up a few.
ReplyDeleteAfter doing their best to not mention the Undisputed title on TV, WWE now has a feature on it on the .com:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wwe.com/classics/wwe-undisputed-champions
The Trips/Punk match from "Night of Champions, 2011" was friggin' AWFUL, and not just because Trips won - it really was just a horribly-executed match, they just did not mesh at all.
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying that a rematch couldn't produce a great match, but I'm certainly not looking forward to it after seeing that last one. I look forward to the "authority vs. anti-authority" story-line, as both guys play their roles masterfully and I'd be totally into it for what it "means" in terms of Punk being made (in a sense), but I'm not looking forward to the actual match.
Punk/Lesnar has been off the cards for a while. It was part of the Punk/Heyman feud and that feud is over.
ReplyDeleteThat's two of the biggest stars on the active roster in a tag match, along with the two biggest semi-retired names. I can't see them all in one match. I think they almost have to be in singles matches to make Mania appear more stacked.
ReplyDeleteThat would be a fun match, though. Backlash?
Agreed. Taker/Brock was average-at-best ten years ago, and the ending is 100% predictable. I'd much rather see Taker/Cena, with Orton further down the card.
ReplyDeleteSince it won't be for a title and will probably be the 2nd or 3rd from the top matchup, the chance is slim to none.
ReplyDeleteSame. Can't wait for Heyman's first promo about how "Brock is gonna beat Taker at mania, just like how he came THISCLOSE to beating HHH at Mania last year!" If they wanted Taker/Lesnar to mean something, they should have either gotten Lesnar back early to face Taker at Mania 28, or had Lesnar go over Cena (Extreme Rules '12) and HHH (Summerslam '12) and then face Taker last year at mania 29.
ReplyDeleteLesnar's been killed off as a threat, and his character is just so motivationless that a match against Taker now sounds incredibly boring.
I was listening to Keller amd he said he had a source that said HHH thought going from Taker and Brock WM matches to a Bryan WM match is beneath him.
ReplyDeleteHow many different WrestleMania main event scenarios do you think the WWE will run through this year??
ReplyDeleteJust do Evil DX vs Punk/Bryan and let them go for like an hour.
Brian, I'm very interested in that 1993 WCW Vader shoot if you'd like to review it.
ReplyDeleteCena vs taker was never even in consideration. Scotts the best but I have no idea where he got that from.
ReplyDeleteEven without the title(s) being on the line, THAT would be a fantastic way to "make" Punk and Bryan, and a fantastic way to send the fans home happy.
ReplyDeleteThe match is gonna be crazy though
ReplyDeleteThe 1-1s are better if they put Bryan/Punk over
ReplyDeleteHere's a thought, Hunter: Sit your Cro-Magnon ass up in a box seat with your manly, delusional wife and let others get their shine.
ReplyDeleteWell I'm sure everything has been "in consideration" since based on the booking they obviously have blown this card up about 50 times in the last few months. And I'd assume that since Cena/Taker is the biggest money match they have left, they pretty much check in on whether this is the year to pull the trigger.
ReplyDeleteAnd that aside, I'm just saying I'd have much rather seen that this year, especially since it's the first time in 3 years that Cena's not tied down witha Rock match.
Hbk vs db would make most sense from both storyline and general awesomeness perspective .
ReplyDeleteThe more time goes on, the less I'm feeling the rumored usage of Punk and Bryan at WrestleMania. Punk didn't have good chemistry with either Jericho or Rock, and I don't remember his first match with Triple H being anything special either. If Punk beats Triple H, that's fine, but if McMahon backs him as his avatar to get the rumored McMahon v. Triple H angle, how fucking stupid would that be?
ReplyDeleteAnd if you put Bryan over Michaels, what exactly does that do for Bryan? Sure, the win would be nice, but we're all banking on HBK coming back at the same level he was at when he left four years ago. We're discounting the fact that he's pushing fifty, and no one can be superman forever inside the ring. But let that go for a second; what does it do for Bryan specifically? He beats a retired legend? How does that help him get revenge on the Authority for dicking him around? And where does he go from there: you have Roman Reigns ready for the rocket push after 'Mania, plus Cena and Sheamus will be back and clogging up the top of the card.
Punk and Bryan, as sad as it is to say, could very well be on the outside looking in after WrestleMania, because the WWE does business how THEY want to and we're going to like it. It's a shame too, because no one else on the roster gets the kind of positive reactions that Punk and Bryan do.
Will it tho? I like Big man matches but can Taker bump around for Brock or will it be another HHH/Brock styled match? I want them to go full out over the top blood and violence if they do it
ReplyDeleteThat would be a fantastic motivation, actually - in kayfabe, Trips is "above" fighting a non-superstar like Bryan, until he's eventually goaded into it just to prove how right he is.
ReplyDelete"I don't have to prove how much better I am than Bryan, but just to shut everyone up and show that I'm right, I'll give him the match."
I'm just thinking 1) hbk 2) gotta put a face over last (hhh ain't jobbing or having a great match so let's hope they have the common decency to not put it in last 3) it would make sense based on booking to give d bry his big moment closing mania (probably the best argument for why they won't)
ReplyDeleteKayfabe, yes. But does he really mean that?
ReplyDeleteI feel your entire sentence doesn't compute with Hunter, like it to be talking to him in klingon. It would be like when I'm talking to my dog, he'd just sit there with that smirk on his face hearing "blah blah blah blah blah blah."
ReplyDeleteHhh:no punk I'll go over at mania. Then when I job at the April ppv the fans will be that much happier... that I won the only match that matters! Wait did I say that last part out loud
ReplyDeleteYeah Shawn was gone for 4 years. I don't get how someone can act like that stop didn't get paid off?
ReplyDeleteAssuming that Cena/Orton is still feuding over the title, that will be last. Regardless, the WWE title match, whatever it winds up being, will almost certainly be last.
ReplyDeleteThis makes me a sad panda for all the wrong reasons.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'm assuming it'll be more like the HHH/Brock matches, which were uniformly all awful IMHO. And like the HHH/Taker Mania matches, which were all chairshot-lay on ground for 10 minutes-- talk to opponent and cry a little- chairshot, which at least had the crowd because everyone was into the Taker/HHH characters. (And everyone thought HHH could go over.)
ReplyDeleteLesnar/Taker will have all the slow, plodding aspects of the aforementioned matches, without any blood or true Lesnar/Cena-esque brutality, and no emotion because there's zero doubt in the finish.
"But you'll get to beat the New Age Outlaws on Raw in the Mania buildup! After Nash lays you out with a jacknife, of course. Gotta keep Nash strong for the HOF induction."
ReplyDeleteMan, this year's Mania is going to be epic. Taker/Brock, Punk/HHH, Bryan/HBK, Cena/Orton? maybe for WWE title, Hogan possibly in a tag match, that alone will be worth the money.
ReplyDeleteLulz
ReplyDeleteOr a radio with bad reception
ReplyDeleteMcMahon said: "Hunter, we want you to put Daniel Bryan over and set him up to win the title on RAW the next day."
HHH's mind: "Hunter, we want you to .... ... ... over and ...set ... up...win..... title on....RAW the...next day."
HHH: "OK Vince."
Beating HBK will do wonders for Bryan's career. It's obvious that WWE sees Bryan and Punk as main eventers now and the fact that Hunter and Michaels are willing to work with them at Mania shows just that.
ReplyDeleteWaiiiiiit, so where does this leave Cena? I assumed for the past 3 months we were getting Cena/Taker or perhaps Cena/HHH to kill the authority shit.
ReplyDeleteRock vs Brock/cena/taker/hhh/punk/who ever I'd the biggest money match left. Anything not involving Mr miavia is a cut below. Personally I want a heel punk vs face cena 35 minute mania blow off
ReplyDeleteIt's funny, I think two of this year's matches—Punk/HHH and Lesnar/Taker— would have been killer at Mania 28. In a perfect world, Summer of Punk pays off with HHH turning full heel and putting over anti-authority Punk at Mania. Annnnd WWE gets Brock to come back a few months early as a surprise challenger to Taker, at a time when Brock would be at his hottest and most feared. (In his first match, before he jobbed out to anyone and had 3 bad matches with HHH.)
ReplyDeleteI hear voices in my head/they talk to me (I don't know the other words?
ReplyDeleteIf they REALLY did the build and matches right, they could really make Bryan and Punk look like stars if they went HHH/Punk and Bryan/HBK
ReplyDeleteDude, what possible stipulation could they add to make Cena/Orton Part 178 at all interesting? They honestly need to be piloting fighter jets against eachother with Orton attempting to drop a nuke over the city for anyone to care.
ReplyDeleteHbk is the best guy. Marks and smarks both agree. Working with him at mania would be the biggest match of his career. I know he's been gone but he's at worst got the rub of a post 87 Andre
ReplyDeleteSure Hogan, why not. You already have two part-time wrestlers and one guy coming out of retirement. God forbid they actually build up any active wrestlers.
ReplyDeleteWell dude IS from the 90's.
ReplyDeleteUgh ugh ugh. I have 0 idea what match you put on last if you're going cena/orton, punk/hhh, bryan/hbk and lesbar/taker. Guess Taker
ReplyDeleteA tag match would do better to cover for DX's flaws of age and rust, though.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't worry about that. HBK isn't going to work some schedule to make sure HHH gets over.
ReplyDeleteSeriously why the fuck did hhh have to ruin lesnars comeback. How much better would we all be if anyone else except Kane got that feud
ReplyDeleteWould love Punk/Cena at Mania, but unless its against Austin in Texas there's no way Punk is ever a heel at Mania, ESPECIALLY against John boy. I was there last year, and Punk was pretty much God in that crowd. Fuck, half the crowd was doing Let's Go Punk against the goddamn Undertaker.
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry you asked because I fear the answer is Vince in one corner, Stephanie in the other.
ReplyDeleteLesnar's fine. You can re-build him as an unstoppable killing machine with almost no effort.
ReplyDeleteThose matches really kiled so much of Brock's heat. Even after teh Cena loss, at LEAST the feeling was "Well, Brock's matches are gonna be nuts!" Then HHH has three plodding, heatless matches with the guy and basically turns him into just another upper card heel. And he beats him at fucking MANIA. Insane how much that series brought lesnar down the ladder.
ReplyDeletewinner wins everything.
ReplyDeleteIf hbk wrestles, you gotta 100% go with bryan/hbk. A fucking hbk/Punk feud would be fucking the shit tho
ReplyDeleteif Cena putting over Bryan has shown anything it is that the days of someone being "made" by one match are long gone (best example is the rise of Batista: does anyone really think that if instead of him beating Triple H three times on ppv he just got one win at WrestleMania he would have still been as over as he was after their program?).
ReplyDeleteMaybe. Put I'm pretty sure HBK wouldn't come back unless he could still bring the goods. The rub of having 2 singles matches and putting over the right guys has so much more magnitude in 1-1s.
ReplyDeleteWell we know any non-WM participation from HBK isn't happening. I could see them all in one match. Especially with the Evil DX packaging. And with introductions and otherwise it could carry 45-50 minutes so time isn't an issue.
ReplyDeleteHHH just can't work good singles matches anymore. He needs his in-ring involvement heavily protected.
he might even throw in a win on Raw.
ReplyDelete'Man, this year's Mania is going to be epic...Cena/Orton? maybe for WWE title'
ReplyDeleteepic? I do not think It means what you think it means”
What about Cena/Hogan vs Vince/Orton? ( Getting rid off that stupid Vince v HH avatar nonsense, and having Cena drop the title to Brock mayabe at elimiation chamber?)
ReplyDeleteWhy does everything think Hogan is going to be wrestling at WM? You realize he is beyond crippled right now and can't work a match or drop the leg right? Forget Hogan.
ReplyDeleteIf Punk is going after HHH and they're trying to get HBK to go up against D-Bry at WM30, considering that the Royal Rumble title match is Orton-Cena-Bryan, who wins the Royal Rumble for the title shot?
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling that a lot of these rumors are pre-unification match plans, because it doesn't leave for a "Main Event" title challenger, unless Brock is going to face Orton, but I don't see that as a huge money main event.
In order to do that, you have to actually have him kill someone.
ReplyDeleteoutside of The Rock, obviously.
ReplyDeletebut if you only count in "regular" worker (instead of Hollywood megastars), Cena vs. Undertaker is the biggest match they haven't done.
(and, as mentioned before, the WWE could really screw with all the predictions if the make this a submission/"I quit"-match - which is of course highly unlikely for the same reason that it would be great)
Is this what Wrestlemania is shaping up to be?
ReplyDeleteMain Event Taker vs Lesnar
Cena with Hogan in either some match or promo... If its a 1 on 1 match, its the main event. If its anything else, its not.
Punk vs HHH
Bryan vs HBK
Orton vs returning Royal Rumble winner Sheamus for WWF title (Don't laugh, all the other big names are taken. So someone has to fill this role.)
Cody vs Goldy
Shield 3 way
This appears to be the direction WWE is going in. That's actually a pretty decent card with something for everyone.
Wait a second, so it doesnt mean "something that will bore me since ive already seen it 20 times and theres nothing new or exciting they can do with it"?
ReplyDeleteAs bizarre as it sounds, I think Sheamus, in a surprise return, is most likely. Everyone else already seems to have a feud for Wrestlemania.
ReplyDeleteHe shows up for a nostalgia pop.
ReplyDeleteSheamus wins the Rumble but loses his shot at Elimination Chamber? A title match doesn't make sense...
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, who else can fill the role? I can't think of any, because WWE seems to have feuds for everyone else at wrestlemania already set. That is, unless Hogan isn't a part of WM and they want to do Orton - Cena for the title again.
ReplyDeleteIf he can't really wrestler then they may do something like Hogan and Cena vs the wyatt family. Cena does 90 percent of the work, and then tags in Hogan who does a few punches, pumps up the crowd, and a leg drop but no bumps.
ReplyDeleteOrton trying to drop GHB in the Nikki Bellas water bottle.
ReplyDeleteWhich is fine, I just dont' want him in a ring.
ReplyDeleteHe had a good match with Sting @ BFG a couple years ago. He can still get the crowd going. I'd like to see Cena/Hogan vs. Orton/Corporate Kane at Mania. Having Punk beat Orton for the title at the Chamber PPV and have Triple H put himself as the challenger for the title because "it's best for business",. Smell the heat...
ReplyDeleteI was born in the 80's though. I'd love to see Hogan wrestle a match. Crowd would go bonkers. Why not have Hogan put over a young guy? Have Fandango or someone beat him.
ReplyDeleteThe match at BFG that had multiple run ins, no actual wrestling, and two old men gigging themselves to add heat to a match because they are incapable of doing it by wrestling? THAT match was good? Hardly.
ReplyDeleteThreadjack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UUiNa6vEeI
ReplyDeleteThis guy just keeps getting better and better. Gets caught smoking crack. Admits to smoking crack but claims he was blackout drunk when he did it. Refuses to step down. What next? Dances his ass off to bad reggae DURING A COUNCIL SESSION!! He has officially passed Marion "Bitch set me up" Berry as my favorite crack smoking mayor of all time.
Biggest pop in TNA history. Wasn't any worse than some WCW Hogan vs. Sting matches in terms of match quality. It was kept pretty short, too.
ReplyDeleteBiggest pop in TNA history is equivalent to being the biggest turd in a pile of shit. Still doesn't mean Hogan has any business in a ring.
ReplyDeleteI hope they add Dusty as special ref to the Rhodes' match. I've never seen him do it, but with his charisma and ability to work a crowd I bet he's be great.
ReplyDeleteMy only worry about a DX vs. Bryan/Punk match would be that HHH would somehow find a way to avoid showing ass and taking the fall. And after all of this Authority nonsense, Hunter really needs to pay this off by getting his.
ReplyDeleteI'm a happily married man, I've got enough to eat at home...
ReplyDeleteSome people don't get it...
ReplyDeleteHogan is PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF EVEN DOING THE FUCKING LEG DROP ANYMORE, unless he's had some sort of miracle recovery since his last surgeries.
Oh yeah. Can't believe I forgot his incredibly crude cunnilingus remark. Good call.
ReplyDeleteDDP Yoga?
ReplyDeleteRumors are hes been training like hell. If thats correct, he should be able to do a few punches and a legdrop.
ReplyDeleteShort of said effort involving Lesnar beating HHH into a final and ultimate retirement, nobody's gonna give a fuck now.
ReplyDeleteThat's what I'm saying, though. I'm wondering if Orton-Cena-Bryan isn't as set in stone for the Rumble as we think, allowing either Cena or Bryan to win the match for the main event shot.
ReplyDeleteWrestlemania! Home of the immortals! Probably because 75% of our matches involve part time or retired wrestlers!
ReplyDeleteBryan - HBk seems set in stone at this point, and I don't think they would make that for title. If Cena wins, who would be his opponent? It could be Lesnar, but that leaves Taker without an opponent. I don't think they would do Taker vs Cena or Lesnar for the Title, because Taker basically works one match a year, and he aint giving up his streak yet. Therefore, unless they want to do Cena - Orton again for the title, I just don't see any other possibility than the WWF title except for a midcard match between Orton and Sheamus, with something else being the main event. Thats been pretty common in recent years. I didn't get there by believing this is the best match. I got there by process of elimination.
ReplyDeleteFor the love of god, if Sheamus ends that title run, they might as well put the belt on Trips, then.
ReplyDeleteFine let HBK take the fall, it means nothing to him. If HHH-Punk go in a singles match there is less chance he will take the fall.
ReplyDeleteI don't want it simply because HHH's snark-filled promos in the buildup are going to be INSUFFERABLE.
ReplyDeleteI don't care what anyone says. I'd mark out like a seven year old if Hogan made a surprise entrance at the Rumble.
ReplyDeleteI absolutley loved this comment. Just the balls to say that in the middle of all this. I actually like this guy. I do hope he gets help though so we don't hear about him ODing.
ReplyDeleteYou're Canadian, right? Do you live in Toronto? I hear that outside of his rocking out he's actually a good mayor.
ReplyDelete75%?
ReplyDeleteI was thinking, depending on how much HBK wants to do, have the single matches at Mania then at Backlash have the DX vs Punk/Bryan match.
ReplyDeleteVintage Dougie building momentum!
ReplyDeleteThat's. ..not what i have been hearing as a Canadian.
ReplyDeleteHell, a lot of people believe Ford ordered the hit on one of the informants that brought the scandel to light.
Well for the most part Shawn is retired, also I've never held any stock in "loser leaves WWE/career/town" as they never stick. At least with Shawn he is retired from active wrestling and hasn't had a match in four years. And we may get Bryan/HBK, are we really going to complain?
ReplyDeleteAlmost no effort pretty much sums up how Lesnar has been booked since his return.
ReplyDeleteLesnar isn't special anymore. They killed that off with the Cena loss and the boring HHH matches. He's basically Mark Henry without the promo skills.
Thanks for proving my point.
ReplyDeleteDid Knuckles Madsen ever even appear on TV? I'm a regular viewer of NXT but I don't recall him ever appearing on the show.
ReplyDeleteGreat...so now we get to see Daniel Bryan lose to HBK and Triple H beat CM Punk...all on the same show! EPIC!
ReplyDeleteI heard the thing about him ordering the hit too. I haven't been to Toronto in quite a while (my exile from Canada due to legal issues just ended, but I still have to get a passport before I can go back up there), so all I know about the Ford situation is what I've read on Deadspin.
ReplyDeleteMost of Hogan's WCW work sucked the dick off a goat.
ReplyDeleteI'm probably the only guy that would want HBK to win that match. And that's not a knock on Bryan, I'm just a gigantic Shawn mark.
ReplyDeleteTriple H has no star power though. He's only as big as the people he wrestled.
ReplyDeleteI'd be more fine with that because at least HBK would make Bryan look good in the loss...Triple H is going to effectively squash Punk...he'll give Punk some offense, but you know the Pedigree and 30 sec. wait before pin is going to end it easily...
ReplyDeleteCome on now, they have faced off 40 times at least.
ReplyDeleteThe WWE really are clueless idiots... they had the perfect opportunity to really make this build to wrestlemania awesome but have already squandered that awesome moment in seattle...
ReplyDeleteIt's really easy.... Cena wins the TLC match with the authority siding with Cena even though Cena wants nothing to do with them.
Cena then wants to give Bryan a title shot at the rumble but the authority won't allow it because Bryan "has had his shot", so then to try causing a rift they award Punk the shot at rumble. Telling Bryan he is more than welcome to enter the rumble.
At the rumble Punk is about to win when Lesnar returns with Heyman, costing Punk the match, and in the process Punk is stretched out....
Bryan enters the rumble early, with the announcers hinting that there could be some foul play by the authority. Then wins....
The next night HHH explains that he was responsible for Lesnar's return, in order to protect the face of the company .... prompting Cena to come out and stand up against the authority. HHH tells Cena that it's what's best for business. Cena stands his ground and tries getting HHH in the ring.
Cena , goating HHH, puts the belt on the line at elimination chamber. HHH accepts.
Bryan is forced to put up his title shot in a chamber match....
At the Chamber, HHH beats Cena with a sledgehammer and steals the win. Bryan wins the chamber.
Punk returns at raw the next night and takes out Lesnar who was there with the authority as their killer henchman . Punk then says he'll do whatever it takes to get Lesnar in the ring...offering a retirement match, which Heyman accepts.
Cena endorses Bryan, and then says that he has only one thing he can do....beat the streak....
Making Wrestlemania 30 have the triple main event of....
WWE Title Match - HHH vs Bryan
Retirement Match - Punk vs Lesnar
Undertaker vs John Cena
it's not hat fucking hard....
Oh, most definitely. And especially in what would likely be Shawn's last match? He'll practically kill himself to make Bryan look good.
ReplyDeleteWhatever happened to that whole Triple H vs. Vince for control of the company match? Did they just randomly drop that like how Big Show's "concussion" suddenly made him forget that Triple H exists?
ReplyDeleteIf so, that's got to be the biggest waste of TV time since TNA spent nearly a year building up a match that never even took place.
Didn't people assume the same thing about non-WM participation from The Rock?
ReplyDeleteWell you know he'd win - not because of is ego, but because he's physically incapable of doing an over the top rope bump safely anymore.
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree that one-on-one matches are usually a better way to "make" someone, I think that, in this case, being able to overcome the combined forces of Trips AND Shawn (with their years of experience and heel double-teaming) puts the tag-match over the top.
ReplyDeletePlus, it's probably the best way to actually deliver a 5* match; Trips has had far more bad matches than good ones over the last few years, and Shawn - despite being arguably the best "in-ring story-teller" in history - is going to have at least a BIT of rust and a BIT of slow-down.
I dunno, even Rock has lost a lot of his luster. Most of the audience wanted to see Punk beat him.
ReplyDeleteWhy does everyone think that Hogan is coming back? For the same reason people think Goldberg is coming in to face Ryback, or the same reason people thought Austin would be coming back for a match against Punk.
ReplyDeleteApparently people think wrestling booking works like Tinkerbell - if they wish hard enough for something to be true it eventually will be.
I think the bigger mystery is why people want a broken down 60-year old who can barely move and already has had multiple Wrestlemania 'moments' to come back in the first place.
I think people are too hard on the Brock/Trips series. They weren't great, but I'd say they were all around 3* (if only in in-ring work, definitely not in heat).
ReplyDeleteThey are going to do at least 150k less buys without the rock. He's the last draw left in wrestling (maybe Austin too but maybe not)
ReplyDeleteI also think there's a difference between (in kayfabe) a retired guy just deciding to return, and a retired guy being goaded into returning.
ReplyDeleteIn story-line, Shawn can say that he really doesn't want to come back, but if Bryan keeps kneeing him in the face, it'd be more like Shawn was FORCED to come out of retirement, instead of just changing his mind.
"Biggest pop in TNA history".
ReplyDeleteWHOAH!
"Wasn't any worse than some WCW Hogan vs. Sting matches in terms of match quality."
That's a pretty low bar. The only way a match could get worse than the WCW Hogan vs. Sting matches would require Great Khali to be involved. Actually, come to think of it didn't Cena carry Khali to something better than those Hogan/Sting stinkers?
1) I'd love to see Hogan wrestle a match.
ReplyDeleteResponse: HE CAN'T WRESTLE ANYMORE!
And did you really type the phrase "have Hogan put over a young guy" with a straight face?
It's like the Iron Shiek in the gimmick battle royal! Maybe Shiek will come back and break Hogan's hip, claiming Verne Gagne paid him to do it, simply by touching Hogan.
ReplyDeleteThis may be a bit of a surpise to you, but when you're 60 years old and have a history of back injuries, going the gym doesn't miraculously make you 20 years younger and restore a damaged spine...
ReplyDeleteAm I the only one that thinks a retired heel coming back is kind of weird? Foley coming back to get some payback on the heels that wrong him is one thing, but are people really thinking "oh man, I want Shawn to come out of retirement so Bryan can kick his ass"?
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt Hogan couldn't pull off one legdrop, if it comes with a 6 or 7 figure paycheck. He will make it work.
ReplyDeleteShawn Michaels, Triple H, Taker, Lesnar.
ReplyDeleteThat's four guys in four of the supposed main event matches.
If you think Hogan is going to agree to a relatively small paycheck (for him) for one night and then quietly go away, you don't really know Hogan very well.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you think Vince would pay 6 or 7 figures to have a guy do two moves at Wrestlemania (which doesn't need Hogan to help the buyrate) then you don't really know Vince very well.
Two of those are in the same match.
ReplyDeleteYes Vince would pay up, because Hogan on the card would mean at least that amount of increase in the buyrate. Keep in mind Wrestlemania Costs $60 and WWE probably sees at least $35, if not more, of that. That adds up quickly, and thats why Vince would offer big bucks.
ReplyDeleteWhich is why Vince signed Hogan to a deal when Hogan left TNA!
ReplyDeleteOh wait....
Its not a deal, its a one match thing.
ReplyDeletePardon the idiotic comment, but what was that match?
ReplyDeleteLike I said, if you think Hogan will be satisfied with one small payday and then quietly go away, you don't understand Hogan.
ReplyDeleteHe's done it before, as I already mentioned.
ReplyDeleteRumor were they wanted the main event to be a wrestler representing Vince vs HHH for co trol of the wwe
ReplyDeleteThere have been multiple rumors of offers from multiple sources. There was also Cenas interview with TMZ, which seemed in character talking about him being too old, but still deserving to be at Wrestlemania. There is definitely a good chance of him being there. There is far more proof of it than Austin or Goldberg, but true, WWE and Hogan may not come to an agreement.
ReplyDeleteI think he meant the TNA match? Cuz I don't know what that match was. Aj fought bully ray. What match did TNA hype and not deliver?
ReplyDeleteJericho
ReplyDeleteHulk Hogan vs. Bully Ray which is clearly what they were setting up until Hogan changed his mind.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, that was a rumor that Keith thought for sure was going to happen but its apparent that they have done nothing at all to foreshadow a Vince vs HHH feud
ReplyDeleteI don't you get it. It wouldn't matter for Hogan to not do the leg drop. He hasn't been doing that for a long while and it didn't stop him from wrestling Sting at Bound for Glory the same HE HAD MULTIPLE BACK SURGERIES.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah good call
ReplyDeleteLove it.
ReplyDeleteIt was actually a good match
ReplyDeleteNot on the list. There has never been a wrestlemania where 75% of the matches have a retired wrestler and this year won't be any different.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they aren't
ReplyDeleteIt's called a figure of speech
ReplyDeleteYou don't know that.
ReplyDeleteCould be 100% of the main events though (I agree there can only be one main event but the wwe promotes 4 or so)
ReplyDeleteIt's called a lie. They have plenty of problems without making stuff up.
ReplyDeleteYou don't know that they're even on the card.
ReplyDeleteTotally on board with that
ReplyDeleteYea, but you're going into a rumor within a rumor. That makes no sense what so ever. There's speculation that HBK, HHH, Taker, and Lesnar might work Mania. You're fantasy booking.
ReplyDeleteNo, it's called a figure of speech. I'm sure the OP made an exaggeration and wasn't giving out factual information.
ReplyDeleteVader 1993 timeline is the only news here I give a damn about.
ReplyDeleteLove Shawn, but for once I wanted to see someone actually stay retired
Probably would be something like Triple H bringing in HBK as a hired gun to finish off Bryan.
ReplyDeleteShawn Michaels vs. Daniel Bryan.
ReplyDeleteMarks everywhere just jizzed in their pants.
This argument would hold more water if there were people on the current roster actually worth watching.
ReplyDeleteBut where's hornswaggle? Or great kahli dancing? And Stephanie, shouldn't she be demeaning someone for no reason? You will never get hired with creative ideas like you described.
ReplyDeleteTechnically 23% from last Mania's card. But if you put in the top 3 matches, 83% of the spots were filled up by part timers.
ReplyDeleteGive me a break. If Andre The Fucking Giant could bump his way out of the Royal Rumble in the shape he was in, then they could have found some way to get Shiek out of there if they needed to.
ReplyDeleteI thought for sure you meant Hogan vs. Jarrett which was setup by Jarrett hitting Hogan over the head with a guitar during a post match press conference in Japan. It was supposed to headline the first Bound For Glory and all that. What was that, 2003? Good grief, I'm getting old.
ReplyDeleteHe has more star power than his buddy Shawn (one of the lowest drawing main eventers in WWF/E history).
ReplyDeleteNo you aren't.
ReplyDeleteHe's commenting on the rumored matchups. It's all speculation at this point.
ReplyDeleteIt's a self fulfilling setup. If you treat the majority of the roster like losers due to the 50/50 booking, rollup victories and meaningless feuds then it shouldn't be a surprise when nine of them have big match shine. which gives you more reasons to treat them all like losers.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the Shield?
ReplyDeleteRock never said anything of the sort though. He always said that he'd be willing to come back for a program. Though that was when he was putting out movies like The Tooth Fairy. He started the epic years long program with Cena in November 2010 with that whole Miz thing...I think. I've blocked a lot of that out.
ReplyDeleteBut, then Fast Five came out in April 2011 and it's been all go for Dwayne since then. I don't think anyone was expecting Fast and the Furious to come back as a money making franchise. Not to mention the rest of his films.
I would keep the slow burn toward their break up going somehow , since I feel its too soon for them to break up. you could have Ambrose defend the belt against Ziggler or some challenger. Then have Reigns and Rollins challenge for the tag belts... have Ambrose botch interference in the tag match costing those two the belts, then have Ambrose retain when Reigns and Rollins are successful in their interference bid...
ReplyDeleteThink like when HHH lost the IC belt to Kane , and Austin retained the WWF title at Judgements Day 2001... There was that natural tension that they were obviously building toward a huge blow up between them...
I think that if you have Reigns continue to grin and bare it when it comes to Ambrose's antics it'll pay off huge when he finally stands up to him....