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Monday Nitro - July 27, 1998

Monday Nitro #147
Date: July 27, 1998
Location: Alamodome, San Antonio, Texas
Attendance: 19,109
Commentators: Larry Zbyszko, Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay, Bobby Heenan

Reviewed by Tommy Hall

We're getting closer to Road Wild and nothing has been announced as of yet. It's clear that Jay Leno is going to be involved in some way, even if the fans don't seem that thrilled by the idea. Unfortunately that means we're probably going to see another NWO talk show because wasting ten minutes of their only major TV show of the week on a segment to set up a match with a talk show host is fine in WCW. It may have made money at Road Wild, but it's making for some very dull television. Let's get to it.

We open with a recap of Hall and Nash fighting last week which led to a Wolfpack vs. Black and White brawl, which led to Sting and Nash losing the tag titles to Hall/Giant. There's also a clip of Bret beating DDP for the vacant US Title.

We get a voiceover (sounds like Scott Hudson) recapping last week, which is pretty much what we got in the first video.

Nitro Girls in white cowboy hats. I could get used to this.

Tony promises us something that will be among the biggest moments in the history of our sport: Goldberg is going to talk.

Here's the Black and White minus Hogan, Bret and Bischoff, probably with a lot to say. The announcers are already talking about Jay Leno non-stop. Hall thinks Nitro being in San Antonio is just too sweet, much like the new tag team champions. He's going to be sick if he has to keep hearing about Nash being upset, so how about we have a big NWO vs. NWO match at Road Wild?

Brian Adams tells the fans to shut up and recognize how awesome the Black and White really is. He tells us about being in Japan and hearing about Goldberg's fluke win over Hollywood Hogan. Adams got on a plane and begged Hogan to let him prove that Goldberg is a fluke. Therefore, Adams is getting a title shot tonight which hopefully lasts about 18 seconds.

We get clips from Bischoff's talk show last week.

Back from a break with the Flock in the ring and Raven talking about how things were supposed to be different than it was in high school. He's still despised and attacked by people like Saturn and Kanyon though. You know, part of society's norms. This brings out Saturn who is sick of hearing Raven cry. If Raven wants to cry, stand up so Saturn can give him something to be upset over. Kanyon runs out to get a piece of Saturn but gets suplexed down. Saturn picks Raven up for the Death Valley Driver but gets caught in a Flatliner from Kanyon. It's not clear if Kanyon meant to save Raven or not.

Barbarian vs. Jim Duggan

Duggan chants USA a lot before clotheslining Barbarian out to the floor. Back in and a double ax handle drops Barbarian again but he gets a boot up to stop a jogging Duggan. Jim comes back with right hands in the corner to little effect but he has to deal with Jimmy Hart. Barbarian kicks Hart by mistake, allowing Duggan to grab a rollup for the fast pin.

Post match Hugh Morrus jumps Duggan but Meng comes in to beat up Morrus. Duggan gets the board to clean house and offers Meng a handshake, getting a Tongan Death Grip in return.

Bischoff's house band is warming up.

There's another horrible looking car in front of a star parking spot outside.

It's time for NWO Night Cap and the keyboard player now has NWO glasses. Eric shakes hands with his fans ala Leno as we're already two minutes into this. Joke topics tonight include Japanese Viagara, Monica Lewinsky, Jay Leno's chin, bikers, Steve Urkel being NWO Black and White, the chin again, Leno not being funny, and growing sheep bladders in a lab.

Oh and now we get a COMEDY SEGMENT. It's Headlines, which is showing various accidental puns in newspapers. The fans are booing this out of the building. Remember, they paid for a ticket to sit through this segment. Even Liz in a dress isn't enough to save this but it keeps going anyway.

Now we get our special guest: Hollywood Hogan. Hollywood talks about how Bischoff is dominating late night and gives a birthday shout out to Nitro Nick. Bischoff shows us a clip from the real Tonight Show with band leader Kevin Eubanks talking about Bischoff making fun of Leno in a badly scripted conversation. We get a clip in the clip of the original Night Cap, which are the same clips we saw earlier tonight.

Leno makes fun of Hogan's beard and says he's seen better wrestling on Jerry Springer. Jay makes jokes about Hogan's age and need for Viagara before we go back to an annoyed Hogan and Bischoff. Hogan says Leno's lawyer should plead insanity for Leno because Jay has gone way over the line. He gives Leno one more chance to back off or Hogan is going to come to the Tonight Show and shut him up. Bischoff promises to show what happened when Karl Malone stepped into Hogan's world. We're FINALLY done after nearly seventeen minutes spent on this segment. I'd love to see the quarter hour ratings for this show.

More Nitro Girls with Fyre stripping off a suit in a solo routine.

Nitro Party video.

Time for more talking with Gene bringing out a limping DDP for a chat. Gene says Page put the title on the line last week even though he was injured. Page says it was Hogan that attacked him last week because he's scum. Hogan shouldn't hunt what he can't kill, because Page's mission is to now eliminate Hollywood from the wrestling world. Hogan can keep running, but one day he'll feel the BANG.

Nice recap of Malenko vs. Jericho, setting up tonight's last chance match for Malenko.

Tony hypes up the Goldberg interview again but the Black and White has something to say. Dusty Rhodes is back and heads over to the announcers' table with Hall and Norton. Hall says if Nash doesn't want a fight, how about sending Sting out to face him later? Dusty goes on a rant against Larry for talking too much trash about the NWO. Therefore, Larry is under a gag order tonight, meaning Dusty gives Tony an actual gag.

Scott Norton vs. Jim Neidhart

Norton no sells some forearms and powerbombs Neidhart for the pin in 15 seconds. I'd assume Norton will be Goldberg's supper one day soon. Neidhart is already walking to the back before Norton is out of the ring. That's some pretty poor selling.

Video on Goldberg.

The interview is hyped up again.

We go to the back for the back for Goldberg's walk to the ring but he doesn't come out. Doug Dillinger comes in and sees NWO graffiti all over the walls and the room ransacked. Goldberg is nowhere in sight.

Hour #2 begins at about 9:15.

Here's Bret Hart for even more talking. He talks about how wrestling has become full of pimps and thieves and somewhere he doesn't want to be, until now. Bret doesn't want to hear about Page's injuries because Page got in the ring last week. There's one more person that he needs to address from last week and that's Sting. Bret has a lot of respect for Sting and especially likes his taste in moves. There's one thing that is least Sting down the wrong road and that's all these people out there. Bret is Sting's friend and will show him the right way.

Crusierweight Title: Dean Malenko vs. Chris Jericho

Jericho is defending and this is Dean's last chance at the title. Jericho dropkicks Dean out to the floor to start and sends him into the barricade to take an early advantage. Back in and Chris tries a top rope dropkick but dives into a dropkick from Malenko. Dean goes up again for a sunset flip but Jericho rolls through into the Liontamer. Malenko is quickly into the ropes and rolls out to the floor for a breather. Jericho hits a nice dive to take him out and we go to a break.

Back with Jericho kicking Malenko into the ropes but Dean takes over with a leg lariat. Malenko ducks a victory roll attempt and German suplexes Chris down for two. Jericho comes right back with a reverse suplex and the Lionsault to Dean's back for two. The fans are into this match. A release double underhook powerbomb sets up the Cloverleaf but Jericho is too close to the ropes.

Malenko gets crotched on the top but he counters Jericho's superplex into a DDT off the top for three but the referee waves it off because Jericho had the rope. Chris rolls to the floor and pulls out a foreign object but Dean stomps him down in the corner before Jericho can swing. The referee gets poked in the eyes and Dean takes the knucks away. He knocks Jericho out as the referee clears his eyes out, drawing the DQ.

Rating: C+. Really fast paced match here though the ending is kind of puzzling. Why would you have Malenko get beaten/screwed out of the title every single time, only to have him lose the final match? Jericho has dominated the feud as far as being the better character, but shouldn't Malenko have gotten to keep the title at least once?

Gene swears that we'll get the Goldberg interview soon. Apparently Goldberg is fine and in the locker room.

The Nitro Girls are in the crowd.

Long video on Road Wild, focusing on country singer Travis Tritt performing. Again with the celebrities.

Steve McMichael vs. Curt Hennig

McMichael throws Hennig around to start but Curt snaps McMichael's throat across the top rope. Mongo comes back with a powerslam but a Rude distraction lets Hennig hit the PerfectPlex for the win. Another 90 second match.

We look at another clip from the Tonight Show with Leno bringing out a Hollywood Hogan impersonator who is too old to move.

Cue the Black and White to talk even more. Bischoff promises to fire whoever showed that Leno clip. Hogan says he'll give Page a huge beating to make up for all the bad things he's been saying lately. He's also ready to ride Page real hard all night long. There's a sex tape joke in there somewhere. Hogan accepts the challenge for a match with Page tonight.

Before that though, here's the ENTIRE main event from Bash at the Beach. The match plus intros eats up nearly half an hour, including a few commercial breaks. I'm just going to copy and paste this from the Bash at the Beach review.

Diamond Dallas Page/Karl Malone vs. Dennis Rodman/Hollywood Hogan

Page and Malone have matching attire, which look like they jumped into a vat of hot glue with their jeans on. They come out to some hip hop song that keeps saying “feel the bang.” Malone looks like he’s been carved out of granite while Rodman is in a t-shirt and jeans. The basketball players get us going but first Hogan has to take off Rodman’s glasses. Rodman runs to the ropes to hide and the fans are all over him. That works so well that they do it a second time. A test of strength doesn’t happen as we hit two minutes into the match.

Rodman grabs a headlock but bails to the floor when Malone charges at him. Off to Hogan for a posedown with Hollywood getting frustrated. Malone hooks a kind of standing chinlock (imagine a left arm Rock Bottom but he clasps his hands together and squeezes) before slamming Hogan down. We’re five minutes in now and it’s off to Page. DDP gets Rodman and shoves him down off a lockup. A shoulder puts Rodman down again as the stalling continues. They spit at each other and Rodman armdrags him down. Somehow we’re seven minutes into this match.

They hit the ropes a bit and collide to send both guys down. Back to the headlock by Rodman but Page reverses into one of his own. The fans are clearly getting restless. Rodman leapfrogs Page twice and they collide again to give us more laying down. Malone comes in and kicks at Rodman, sending him over to Hogan for the tag. Karl hooks a top wristlock and shoves Hogan to the mat. Hogan complains of a hair pull and Rodman gets in a cheap shot to get to the whole tag match idea for the first time.

Hogan chokes a lot and slams Malone down before raking the boot over Malone’s eyes. Rodman comes in with some elbow drops before it’s back to Hogan for a chinlock. Here’s Rodman again for some double teaming and a belly to back suplex from Hogan. Hollywood misses an elbow though and it’s hot tag to Page. DDP comes in with a top rope clothesline to Hogan but a cheap shot from Rodman lets the NWO take over again. Hogan chokes away in the corner with his boot followed by a running clothesline.

Rodman comes in for a double big boot and more choking before it’s back to Hogan for right hands in the corner. Page hits a quick elbow but Rodman breaks up the tag attempt and puts on a front facelock. Malone plays cheerleader on the apron and we get the unseen and phantom tag tropes to space the match out even more. The big boot puts Page down but he avoids the legdrop and it’s hot tag off to Malone.

Clotheslines all around put the NWO down and they both get slams. There’s a double noggin knocker followed by Hogan’s head going into the buckle. A big boot drops Hogan and it’s off to Page for a running Diamond Cutter (Hogan landed on his hands, making the move look horrible). Malone Diamond Cuts Rodman but Disciple sneaks in with a Stunner to Page, giving Hogan the pin and a face pop for some reason.

Rating: F. This was about what you knew it was going to be, though it could have been FAR worse. Malone was clearly taking this seriously which is more than you can say for most celebrities in matches. Rodman looked like your usual celebrity wrestler: decent at the one or two really basic moves he used but pretty worthless otherwise. I’ve read before that this was originally booked to go nearly an hour, which makes me shiver in fear. I guess Hogan needed this win as a thank you for the mainstream attention he brought in?

Malone gives Disciple and the referee Diamond Cutters (good ones too) and the NWO celebrates like this is a big deal.

More Leno footage, this time with a Hogan midget.

Hour #3 begins, again about 15 minutes late.

Now it's time for the Goldberg interview after stringing the TV audience along for an extra hour. Goldberg has been watching what Hogan has been trying to do around here. What they did tonight crossed a line, so he's going to make Brian Adams an example. This was about 45 seconds long.

Here's Arn Anderson for what could be a good interview for a change. Gene talks about Anderson's talk with McMichael and Malenko on Thunder a few weeks back and wants to know why he was so hard on them. Anderson says the three of them tried very hard to make it personal with him and it almost worked. Tonight he was going to gauge the mood to see if the Horsemen had one more run. Then he saw Dean lose to a man that he's better than and Mongo have a match with the man that brought down the Horsemen in the first place, only to get beaten too. That's enough for him, so now he's telling them to drop it.

Sting vs. Scott Hall

Sting starts while the ring is still full of smoke from the entrances, taking Hall down with a bulldog. Scott is sent out to the floor for a breather before coming back in with a toothpick to the face. Some right hands set up the fallaway slam for two but Sting shrugs them off and hits three straight Stinger Splashes. There's the Death Drop to set up the Scorpion but here's Bret Hart to distract Sting. He doesn't fight back as Sting beats on him but Hennig and Vincent come in for the DQ. Too short to rate again but this was angle instead of wrestling.

Luger and Nash come out for the save as Bret still hasn't gotten physical at all. Nash loads up the Jackknife on Hall but gets hit low. Bret tries to help Sting up but gets kicked low as well. Bret bails to the floor to escape the Scorpion. Hart never attacked Sting at all.

We look at Buff Bagwell suckering Rick Steiner in, only to turn heel again, wasting some of the most natural sympathy WCW ever had at its fingertips.

Scott Steiner shoves Buff down the ramp in a wheelchair and freaks out because Bagwell is hurt. Buff gets to his feet and dances, annoying Gene even more. Bagwell talks about how serious his neck injury was and Scott praises him for the great acting jobs over the last few weeks. Steiner promises to beat up Rick at Road Wild until JJ comes out to yell at Bagwell. Steiner gets a piece too, with promises of a match against Rick. Scott doesn't seem too scared.

WCW World Title: Brian Adams vs. Goldberg

Vincent distracts Goldberg to start, allowing Adams to hit a top rope shoulder block and a suplex for two. Goldberg hits a belly to belly suplex, three spears (Adams, Vincent, Adams) and the Jackhammer makes it 121-0.

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Hollywood Hogan

This could have headlined a PPV. We get a music miscue as Hogan's music starts before Buffer does his intro in both English and Spanish. Hogan jumps him at the entrances as Tenay talks about Page hosting a charity event for school kids in Atlanta. Nothing wrong with that. Page comes back with right hands and some choking in the corner as we're just waiting on the run ins.

Hogan suplexes Page and pounds away with right hands to the head. A clothesline gets two on Page but misses an elbow drop. Page tries to clothesline Hogan to the floor but Hollywood is all like “that's WAY too big a spot for me brother.” They fight to the floor and Page has to fight off Disciple. Back in and Hogan hits the corner clothesline, setting up the big boot. Page gets up anyway and grabs the Diamond Cutter, drawing in the NWO for the DQ. Too short to rate (shocking!) but Page was trying.

All of the NWO comes out for a big brawl. Goldberg comes to the ring and beats up the Black and White, only to walk into a chokeslam from Giant to end the show.

Overall Rating: D-. And that's being generous. This show was three hours and had seven new matches. Of those seven, ONE was long enough to rate, clocking in at less than six minutes. They spent about 45 minutes (approximately the amount of show time in an hour of programming) on a talk show segment and re-airing a match from PPV. I feel sorry for the San Antonio crowd tonight as they got ripped off tonight.

On top of being really short, how many of these matches meant anything at all? You had two worthless matches, then a good cruiserweight match, a match to advance the Horsemen angle, a match to set up a post match brawl, Goldberg being Goldberg, and a match to set up the post match brawl. Even Raw is better at using its time than that.

Finally there's the Leno stuff. I understand the idea behind bringing in celebrities, but let's think about this for a minute. Last month the celebrities were one of the best linebackers of all time, one of the craziest athletes ever and an NBA player at the peak of his career. This month it's a 48 year old comedian most famous for having a large chin. It wasn't unreasonable to think that Malone could be passable in the ring due to his athletic abilities.

What else could the Leno match be but bad comedy? It's bad comedy setting up bad comedy. Yeah it appeals to the middle aged audience that loved the Tonight Show, but how many of them are going to pay $30 to watch Leno do physical comedy? On top of that, we haven't even had the match announced yet and next week is the go home show for Road Wild. Not only is it a bad idea, but it's being poorly marketed. Just a horrible show all around, leading up to a bad match on PPV.

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  1. I'll say it, I thought the whole Leno / Hogan thing was cool!

    I was 12, but it was cool!

  2. I was 10 at the time and according to my dad I watched the Tonight Show on Friday nights but I have no memory of this. I know I didn't care about the match because a buddy of mine got the PPV and I remember not being interested about it at all when he told me it the next day.

  3. ".......La Li Lu Le Lo?!?!"

  4. So in one show the tag team champions lost a tag match against two singles wrestlers who have tagged together for a matter of days, whilst the Intercontinental Champion won a tag match with someone he has been teaming with for a short period against a team who have been together a few months now and could claim to be strong contenders to the tag team champions.

    The logic of this company gives me a headache sometimes.

    I mean, of course this means next week we'll have to even things up with Cesaro going over Henry and The Rhodes getting a win back over Mysterishow.

  5. If there is going to be an authority figure just let Vince do it. At least his promos are actually entertaining.

  6. I agree with the 4 star rating. Everyone in the live thread was going WAY too high. Great match in any event however. I'm torn on Orton carrying around the 2 physical belts. Part of me hates to see Ric Flair's belt gone from television forever. The other part of me knows that if it sticks around it will eventually be split again for whatever reason.

  7. Definitely not the worst idea I've heard

  8. It also cut out the single best Superkick in Diva history.

  9. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!December 18, 2013 at 5:59 AM

    Dolph Ziggler: ".......The Patriots!?"

  10. He still would not get booed.

    I don't think he can go all out with the groping and making out in this PG enviroment (which is NOT a bad thing), and just trying to promo heel won't be very successful, IMO.

    Cody can do a WAY better heel at this stage, let him shine. And keep everyone else the hell OUT of the angle.

  11. That line is fine. Not sure why it upsets you so much.

  12. You forgot the dancing.

  13. I think it worked as a one-time thing, but I don't like the setup of the team since Big E has to be the one selling and he's probably not the guy you want doing that (not from a work perspective, from a "they expect big things of him" perspective).

    I could live with them getting a squash in every Superstars, though. And, yeah, that match has to have had the most sheer strength for four guys involved since some Furnas / Williams-involved tag match back in the 90s.

  14. What a brave rebel!

  15. To further that, the fluke was because Reigns got hurt, which makes sense since he's going to be the star.

  16. It was Scott that mentioned it, not someone.

  17. Hidden highlights, not sure if Hulu kept them in:

    Orton and his belts:

    Coming out during the opening promo through the superstars, he paused with Bryan to his right (camera left), and Cena to his left (camera right). On his right shoulder, facing Bryan: The WWE Title. On his left shoulder, facing Cena: The WHC Title.

    And at the end, with Bryan and Cena down side by side, Orton held the WWE title "over" Bryan, and the WHC title over Cena.

    If they can start getting stuff like that right more often, there's promise.

  18. And if you need a good template: Bret-Owen, ten years ago. It's past the statute of angle theft by now.

  19. Yeah, that can be read as Bryan accidentally landing a kick on Orton's jewels... whoops?

  20. The only reason for that was that both Dustin and Cody were lobbying HEAVILY for a WM match against each other last year, and everyone assumes they want the same thing this year.

    But this run is probably lucrative enough that they could just keep it going through there, where I assume they'll put over the Wyatts for the titles.

  21. The odd thing about that, of course, is that each guy was more associated with the opposite belt until, really, the past five months.

    (I know Cena held the WHC a couple of times before, but the WWE title was always more "his" due to the spinner heritage.)

  22. This is what WCW was putting up against a molten hot Steve Austin, Leno and a Bischoff talk show. Reading these old Nitro recaps, I am always amazed that WCW lasted as long as it did.

  23. Only problem with your whole post:

    Henry faces Sandow next Monday.

  24. Bret/Owen was 20 years ago. I agree, it'd make a perfect template as long as we get Cody kicking goldust's leg out from under his leg.

  25. Glad to see Langston and Henry finally working together.

  26. My math, it is the shits this morning.

  27. Bah of course how could I forget the Santa vs Santa match.

    OK then it's Swagger that goes over Langston via a handful of tights. Wait what was I thinking Langston is IC champ of course he'll be doing the jobbing.

  28. A feud between Bret and Owen 10 years ago would've been downright creepy...even for the Hart family.

  29. I hope they don't turn any of them. Cody gets good face reactions for the first time, why ruin that?

  30. am I the only one constantly think about this
    when reading that name?

  31. But it's not a spinner anymore, now let's just be happy that it looks like a big ring.

  32. I see what you did there.

  33. You just didn't want to admit that you were old enough for that to have been 10 years ago...

  34. They could get Dusty involved in this. Have Cody turn heel on Dustin, have Cody say that he always felt that he was the better son, Dusty gets involved and is ring side at WM torn between his 2 sons fighting. At the end of the match have Cody win, but then he keeps attacking Goldust to the point where Dusty comes in to stop it. Dusty will help Dustin up only to kick his son between the legs, and leave the ring with Cody, that is how the story should start.

  35. Daniel Bryan is Snake; we WANT to see him, but unfortunately we get stuck with Raiden (Cena?)

  36. Don't count on it, they usually only include stuff as late as late November on the Best of S&R dvd's.

  37. Just read the spoilers for Xmas raw. It could be the first episode where hulu just cuts out the entire show.

  38. I HATE spoilers, for the record.

  39. I can totally understand not wanting to wait the extra three months, since releasing a "Best of 2013" when you're already three months into 2014 would seem like "old news", but they REALLY should include the November and December matches as "bonus matches" on the following year's release.

    There's no reason that Bryan-Kane-Ryback/Shield from last year's "TLC" shouldn't be on DVD, as it was a fantastic match AND is historically significant (in that was Shield's debut match). It really should have been a bonus on this year's edition.

  40. *Eric Bischoff voice*

    One Santa beats the other one

  41. I thought Bryan and Orton had a great match at noc too.

  42. While I can kind of see what you're saying, it's not like he was BADLY hurt; if he had, say, fallen off the top rope and slammed his head on the concrete (kayfabe, of course), and had to be taken to the back, then I could suspend disbelief enough to see Punk winning two-on-one against the two smaller guys.

    Reigns' injury was relatively minor, though, so it was like 2.8-on-1. I still think "The Shield" should have won with those odds.

  43. Absolutely 100% agree that reversing the 50/50 booking for the Punk/Shield feud would have been a much smarter move.

  44. It did not upset me or make me mad; Quite the opposite, I found it unintentionally funny and besides, we got plenty of good wrestling and Shawn Michaels cutting his usual strong promo so if you can find a reason to be mad at anything past the opening promo, more power to you but even with that, I found humor in it because it was so reminiscent of those sad, pathetic promos TNA had in 2010 when Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair were having these verbal jousts with each other and trying to convince people they were still relevant and failing more miserably than a Justin Bieber overseas tour in the process.

  45. Two things:

    1) What's wrong the "Good Santa vs. Bad Santa" idea? It's a goofy little mid-card thing, I really don't see the harm. Then again, I felt the same way about Titus puking after getting Gigantically Swung by Cesaro, so what do I know? I think stuff like that SHOULD be in the mid-card, where it's NOT supposed to be taken seriously.

    2) Last night's Orton/Bryan match ending on a low-blow after, like, twenty-something minutes? Nothing wrong with that.

    Screwy endings on free TV are fine. It's only a problem when they do endings like that on $50+ PPVs. And even then, if the screwy ending of a PPV is creative, logical, and well-executed, then it's okay. "Battleground" ending with Show's interference or "Survivor Series" ending with a musical distraction, now THOSE are bad, whereas Foley never actually saying "I Quit" against Rock was brilliant.

  46. 1: Nothing's wrong with it. I know anything I'm saying is in jesting.
    2: And few have complained about that.

  47. Dick Slater wasn't on the stage either.

  48. Why not just go with "The Office"? They've already blatantly ripped off True Blood, Twilight and the DC Universe so why not go all the way with this theft?

  49. I liked the finish off Orton vs Bryan for a TV match. I also gave the match 4 stars and felt the finish was good (especially if they follow up with the three way)

  50. The good vs bad Santa thing is fine...for other people. I'll be skipping this one outright though.

  51. Raw? How come they don't just cook it or sumpin?

    Triple h? Tss tss he's three quarters of horse tss tss

  52. RF Video was able to shoot and then release a Chris Hero shoot interview just three weeks after he had been fired and WWE releases PPVs less than three weeks after they took place, pretty sure it wouldn't take three months to release a "Best Of" set that also covers the best stuff from November and December, it could be released by the third week of January at the very earliest and no one would consider that late at all.

  53. Did that have a bad rap? I thought Cena/Punk NOC '12 was a great match with a perfectly acceptable pro wrestling ending— at least it was a double pin between the two competitors, not something screwed up by an all-powerful GM or special ref or something. And it's not like fans were chomping at the bit to see Cena win the title that night anyway.

  54. Santa Claus is a proven draw.

  55. He's no Miz, that's for sure!

  56. No that match was excellent

  57. Eh, I hate the idea of turning either of them. I mean, the hardest thing in pro wrestling (especially in modern WWE) is to get the fans legitimately behind a babyface, and both Goldie and Cody are really over as faces right now. Why turn Cody just so he can become another heatless ADR-esque (or, last year's Cody Rhodes-esque) heel? People love them as brothers, I say the smart money is letting them dominate the tag division for another year— trade the belts back and forth with the Wyatts, maybe defend in a crazy TLC match at Mania— really build the Rhodes Bros. up as a "best team of this era" status. Without a WHC, the Rhodes tag team could become the defacto 2nd most important champions on the roster.

    THEN, after a year, they could use Goldust to build even more face heat for Rhodes. Have a top heel— say Ambrose, or Bray Wyatt— murderize Goldust, practically end his career. Then Cody beats the guy to get revenge.

    Maybe after that, Goldust comes back for one final match against his brother, but its face vs face. It can be heated, and Goldust can bring up the "daddy loved you more" stuff, but in the end Cody goes over and they hug and Dusty raises both their hands.

    And BAM, Cody is a megaface, which again is way more valuable than another heel because practically nobody gets over as a face anymore.

    Just my opinion.

  58. You brought it up specifically in its own post. It clearly bothered you for some reason. Maybe you don't understand what it meant?

  59. Why couldn't they have done that finish for Bryan/Orton during their Night of Champions match and just have Orton as champion during Battleground and Hell in a Cell?

  60. Poll: which is worse, this year's Good Santa vs. Bad Santa, or John Cena going after just-turned-face-but-not-tonight Alberto Del Rio for accidentally running over Santa with one of his cars last year?

  61. Balls Mahoney would like to talk to you...

  62. Have Goldberg reprise his role as evil murdering Santa and do a run in.

  63. Malone hooks a kind of standing chinlock (imagine a left arm Rock Bottom but he clasps his hands together and squeezes)

    Uh, what?

  64. The smark is strong with this one.

  65. You know, that would have been an even better finish. Orton knows the kick series so well, that when the next kick to the chest comes, he jumps up a little bit so Bryan ends up taking it TO THE NUTSACK. Orton wins by DQ, and never has to fight Bryan again.

  66. Because they gave Abeyance a chance to run with the ball for a little bit.

    Don't begrudge the WWE trying to create new stars.

  67. Cena/Dell Rio was almost certainly a better match, with the bonus of a rather clever use of Christmas presents, so I'd say this year's is worse.

  68. Scrote Season! Suicide Scrote!

  69. I was thinking more of the set-up.

  70. I don't know how else to describe it.

  71. But when you perform a rock bottom, your arm is across his chest, not his chin.

  72. That's why I said it was kind of one. It's the closest hold I could think of.

  73. I'm totally with you on that. No need to turn either of them. I'm just coming from the premise of: IF one of them ends up turning in the near future, it should be Cody, not Goldust. I would much prefer keeping them together for a long run

  74. This. Especially because everyone in the world knows Vince McMahon is the actual boss anyway.

  75. Nice to see them retread the main event feud from Wrestlemania 24..... No, no it's not


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