Hey Scott, there's news out today of the WWE releasing a three disc DVD, two disc blu-ray, set about the Ultimate Warrior, with the Warrior possibly being interviewed and involved in the set. The set comes out in April 2014. This news, along with the thawing of relations between Warrior and Vince McMahon, make it seem like there's a good possibility that Warrior goes in the HOF in 2014. This got me thinking, with all the Authority stuff and Triple H self-aggrandizement that is happening, wouldn't it be great if the Warrior ran out and attacked Triple H at Wrestlemania 30 during whatever match HHH is in, followed by the Warrior no-selling the pedigree, just like at Wrestlemania 12, then beating the hell out of HHH, causing HHH to be pinned by whoever his opponent is? I think that would be a great cap to the "HHH is the greatest ever" angle, and an excellent little easter egg for long time fans. What do you think?
After careful consideration, I'm gonna have to go with "No."
Warrior managing Ryback or GTFO.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what Jericho said about Warrior at the end of the Self-Destruction DVD. Can he have a great match with everyone? Of course not, but when in their with the big dogs, he was very capable of having good matches. Heck, he had the best match on the card at three straight Wrestlemanias (5 vs. Rude, 6 vs. Hogan, 7 vs. Savage). Plus he's easily one of the most memorable characters from that era. I think he deserves the Hall of Fame. Why not right?
ReplyDeleteOh, I totally agree he should be the Hall of Fame, no question about it. Squashing HHH at Wrestlemania? Not so much.
ReplyDeleteTotally agreed. People love to shit on warrior, but he had some of the most memorable matches of that era. Definitely more great matches on the big stage than Roberts, DiBiase, Beefcake, Piper and others. Keep in mind I'm saying on a big stage and not just in general.
ReplyDeleteI'd get a kick out of Triple H no-selling Warrior's press/splash combo.
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ReplyDeleteMy first thought was that he's maybe borderline HOF, and I might lean towards "no", even as a fan of his work.
ReplyDeleteBut then I remembered Koko B. Ware.
Fuck it. Put him in.
Warrior talking to WWE/taking part in their product release?
ReplyDeleteHuh. Apparently, Hellwig needs the money.
I'm kind of confused by the man. He's clearly smart, even if he might be....shall we say, outside of mainstream thought? But, he also has no love for THE BUSINESS, and looked at it as only a paycheck. From that standpoint, I guess he would be involved.
But after all the crap he's said on his own site about VMK, the WWE, and wrestling in general, I am still a little surprised that he's going back to the well, so to speak. But I suppose if Bret went back, anything is possible.
However, I have utterly no desire to see him wrestle ever again.
I choose GTFO.
ReplyDeleteHHH never did get that win back.
ReplyDeleteI like the guy well enough but the only way I'm watching a 3-disc Warrior set is if it's WM 5, 6 and 7 in their entirety.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Warrior ever wrestled enough to warrant a 3-disk set.
ReplyDeleteI mean, what do you put on it?
Hercules vs. Warrior
Warrior vs. Honky Tonk Man -- SS 88
Warrior vs. Honky Tonk Man rematch
Warrior vs. Rude
Warrior vs, Rude SS 89
Warrior vs. Hogan
Warrior vs. Rude SNME
Warrior vs. Rude SS 90
Warrior vs. Savage wm7
Warrior vs Savage SS 92
Warrior vs. Hogan HH 98
6 hours of insane Warrior promos
You are forgetting the classic confrontations with Andre, and his feud with 'Taker. 5 star affairs on an every night basis.
ReplyDeleteBut seriously...if we get all of the Jake/Warrior vignettes, I might have to buy.
Savage/Warrior cage match from 1990, throw an LOD/Warrior vs Demos house show match on there, the 1990 Survivor Series match, Warrior/Slaughter from Rumble, Warrior/Andre, Warrior/DiBiase SNME, Taker/Warrior house show match. I'm sure there are a bunch of other rare stuff they could use too.
ReplyDeleteGotta have the Papa Shango/voodoo/black vomit angle. I remember watching that and being terrified while my dad just shook his head in a 'what the hell is this shit and what does it have to do with wrestling' kind of way.
ReplyDeleteYou could probably throw in some Blade Runners stuff from Mid-South/UWF and Dingo Warrior from World Class.
ReplyDelete3 Discs is still a lot
Even if you leave Koko B. Ware out of it, he's clearly an obvious hall of famer, as much as I dislike him personally and as a wrestler. He was one of the biggest and most over stars of his time. By any measurement he should be in the HOF.
ReplyDeleteWarrior returns for the Rumble, dumps 4 guys, shakes the ropes, does a dance, gets a minute to catch his breath... 3... 2... 1... *BUZZ!*
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WHEN IT COMES CRASHING DOWN IT HURTS INSIDE!
Book it.
His Hall of Fame speech will not be pretty.
ReplyDeleteIt might depend on your standard for a HOFer. If being as big and over as he was, even if it was brief, is enough - fine. It's my understanding that he never really drew as WWF champ, and his sporadic comebacks haven't been all that great. He had the run as IC champ, the pin on Hogan at WM VI, and some great matches against Savage.
ReplyDeleteTo me, that doesn't clearly say HOF. If it does to you, or if I'm missing something, that's fine.
lol. Same here. It was so retarded, but so effective if you were a little kid.
ReplyDeleteWow, that's pretty crazy to think of. The best match on three straight WMs
ReplyDeleteThose are my choices?
ReplyDelete*gets the fuck out*
This e-mail is Baketastic
ReplyDeleteI've been watching wrestling forever, and I would mark out like a little kid for this.
ReplyDeleteWe all would, and that's what we need more of. Let's play off the greatest moments of our pseudo-sport's history and create more memories featuring our heroes.
ReplyDeleteHogan then gets to induct Warrior into the Hall of Fame... hands him the ring or watch or whatever they get now, recreate the most amazing bro-hug ever from WM6, and let Warrior do his thing on stage.
It's insanely easy to do this in the Rumble every year.
But instead, they mock AJ on TV because she had the nerve to pass out of dehydration during a grueling travel schedule filled with physical contact.
Fuck you all, that would be the greatest night in the history of our sport.
ReplyDeleteOver/under on homophobic slurs and destrucity references?
ReplyDeleteSo let's put the run time at the minimum 6 hours for a 3 disc DVD.
ReplyDeleteTake out the matches that he's already had on the Self Destruction DVD, so that's the Hogan title match, IC victory over Honky & Rude in a steel cage.
Could you come up with enough good warrior matches to fill this DVD?
To be fair, the only way this works is if Warrior and Hogan stumble around for two minutes taking care to protect Hogan's back before Roman Reigns comes out and clotheslines both guys over the top.
ReplyDeletePretty sure he would blow up on the way to the ring.
ReplyDeleteNo.
ReplyDeleteWell...not the only way.
ReplyDeleteI would accept a number of other guys sending them out. Punk, Bryan, Wyatts...hell, I'd be ok with El Torito doing it.
I'm trying really hard to believe that that the thing with Vickie was already in place; that it wasn't a rib.
ReplyDeleteIt's actually quite difficult.
Sorry, it's gotta be a monster or a heel. Whoever does the elimination is going to get BOOED. Give the rub to someone you're building. Reigns is the best choice because he's both a monster and a heel.
ReplyDeleteSorry; was letting my dislike for Hogan get in the way. Let Cena do it and let that be his heel turn.
ReplyDeleteWait...wrong thread.
The matches don't need to be good. That wasn't the point of what he did.
ReplyDeleteYou throw the Blade Runners intro in Memphis, plus a match, to show the connection to Sting.
You throw in a Dingo Warrior match from WCCW, maybe with someone like Chris Adams since he could go.
Rude vs. Warrior from Summerslam '89 to show his I-C Title phase
You include a match with Andre, because Andre the fucking Giant. Never underestimate freak show appeal.
Survivor Series 1990: Hogan, Warrior, Tito vs. Dibiase, Martel, Warlord, and P&G
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Warrior & LOD vs. Demolition from SNME
Savage vs Warrior from Summerslam '92
Plus you have to include the Hogan match, because what's the point in not? They recycle stuff all the time. The Hogan match has historical value in promoting Warrior.
I think them getting tossed would be something the crowd would kind of have to be "in on." I think they'd all know that these guys aren't going to take an over the top rope bump to the floor. They'd almost have to be placed on the apron and then pushed off.
ReplyDeleteBut really, it's all about the entrance.
The Jake/Warrior Vignettes are on the Pick your Poison DVD. Which is worth picking up anyway as the documentary portion is excellent.
ReplyDeleteI actually came back around on the guy. Loved him as a kid, hated him in the late '90s/early '00s, now he's back to being in my Top 5 All-Time. I don't care if his matches weren't always good. The guy had PRESENCE. And fuck anyone who says he can't cut a promo. Warrior screaming about murdering Hogan and his fans will always be entertaining.
ReplyDeleteI'm assuming you meant Mid-South, not Memphis.
ReplyDeleteYeah, typing fast and not paying attention -- that's what I meant.
ReplyDeleteLOL Fuck me, I can be supremely stupid. I own that; not sure I've watched said vids though. Now I'll have to check.
ReplyDeleteNo interest in this DVD set. I can't imagine the filler that needs to be on there. Plus I already own his three best matches, 1 with Hogan, 2 with Savage. And I'm pretty sure I have one of the Rude matches on the cage set and the other one on the IC set.
ReplyDeleteI know, and I know a lot of guys would mark out for it. I'm among those who wouldn't. I don't want to see Warrior wrestle again, I'm actively opposed to Hogan, as he is now, on my TV.
ReplyDeleteJust out of curiosity... anyone you would mark out for on a Rumble return?
ReplyDeleteSure. I'd probably lose my fucking mind if Jake showed up, and I didn't know it was coming...and assuming I didn't immediately wonder if it meant that he'd fall of the wagon.
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't be a return, but it would be huge if Sting came out. I'm not a Sting mark, but it would be an incredible moment.
Seeing Road Dogg a year or two ago was great...I loved the fact that he kept reaching to tag...well, no one.
Old as he is, George Steele would get cheers from me.
Loved seeing Mick, and would again...but I would worry about his getting hurt. Maybe DDP Yoga will work its scary magic on him.
HBK would be great.
Really dug seeing the Godfather again.
There's probably more; that's just kind of off the top of my head at the end of my workday.
You have to remember he did a ton of house show stuff at the big four that was taped. Most of it has been shown on COD already which would be great to add to this set. Some of them are cool tags like teaming up with Strike Force, LOD and British Bulldogs. Also a ton of Coliseum Video stuff. It could easily be a 6 disc set. Throw in World Class and a few MSW matches and it could be 7.
ReplyDeleteImagine how that SummerSlam '89 match is going to sound without Ventura. It loses some of its luster.
ReplyDeleteExactly what I thought
ReplyDeleteSee, I agree with most of those. LOVE Jake. The only reason I don't say him this year is because I REALLY want the Warrior return. Of course, Sting would be awesome but I feel that's something you announce beforehand so you can build to it. I'd love a 3 month program with the New Age Outlaws again. Meh on the George Steele. No to Mick (came back too many times). And finally, no to Shawn. He went out the best way possible... leave the memories alone, Shawn.
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ReplyDeleteThe difference between HHH and Hogan is that if Hogan was in HHH's shoes, he'd give Warrior anything he wanted just so he could return the job.
ReplyDeleteThis is a great idea in theory, the problem is though that however much Warrior's feelings towards Vince/WWE may have thawed, I'm pretty sure he still loathes Hogan & wouldn't be willing to work with him in any capacity. I think the feeling is mutual too (that epic bro hug you mentioned at WM6 was actually Hogan stealing Warrior's heat, which he later laughed about in his book). Also, neither of them could actually win the thing if they appeared in it, although god knows the hulkster would be lobbying for it, and Hogan in particular isn't physically capable of bumping over the top at this point. If Warrior is then I'd be perfectly happy to see him make a cameo by himself though.
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