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UFC 168

Scott, who ya got: Silva or Weidman? Does Silva come to fight? Does he get knocked out & retire? Does he win & retire? Or does he win and start his next legendary reign? Does Brock show up to talk business with Dana?

The Silva-Weidman deal reminds of the movie The Great White Hype, where this time Silva is finally gonna be that little bit motivated and just come out and TKO his ass in the 2nd because even at half-speed and bored he's still better than everyone in the division by miles.  I'm also really looking forward to Meisha Tate showing off her range of armbar defense that she's been training before Rousey taps her with another armbar in the first.  Should be entertaining to watch. 

It's actually a hell of a show tonight and I'm pumped for it.  No idea what the Brock deal is, unless he's working an angle to fuck with Vince McMahon and get more money.  

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  1. Silvas -160. Easy money.

    Brock still has 1 year left on his contract after WM. I doubt Brock would go through the hassles of litigation to get out of only a 1 year deal, and I'd be surprised if Vince let him out early.

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  2. There's nothing to the Brock thing besides Brock having the time and desire to go see the show. All the speculation that he wants back in and whatever is all horseshit created by bored and suggestible internet people.

    Has he requested to meet with Dana personally? No.
    Had anyone hinted that Brock might leave the WWE before this weekend started? No.

    When Dana White says he has no idea if Brock wants back in, he says that because he has no idea because they haven't talked about it at all.

    Brock himself said that he left the UFC because the diverticulitis made it impossible to move as quickly and explosively as he had to in order to stay competitive with the heavyweights. Brock doesn't have the best history of decision making, but I doubt he thinks he'd be in a better position to make an impact in the UFC now, a year or two later and with a body that would have to adjust back out of performance mode and into competition mode again. And for what? The good possibility of having Cain Velasquez turn his liver and kidneys into pudding?

    He's an MMA fan making BANK to do a pro wrestling match every few months where he puts someone over, which is fine because Brock doesn't give a shit about his "character" or pro wrestling as a whole.

    That's the story.

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  3. Ugh, even Scott doesn't "get it".

    This "motivated Silva" BS is getting out of hand. He fought his last fight the way he fights every fight. The difference is that he wasn't fighting Thales Leites or Damian Maia. Weidman, in turn, knocked his block off.

    Silva can do 1 of 2 things:


    A) Be taken down at will and lose a decision.
    B) Clown and hope that Weidman makes a mistake, but probably get KO'd.


    Chris is a NIGHTMARE match-up for Anderson and will prove it again tonight.

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  4. That's the thing. That KO wasn't Weidman landing a lucky shot after getting styled on for 4.5 rounds. Weidman was controlling that fight pretty much from the first actual physical engagement. Could a motivated and focused Silva take the belt back? Sure. He's an amazing fighter.

    Could Silva be focused and motivated in the rematch? Maybe, but you'd think that he would have become motivated and focused after none of his Michael Jackson as an MMA Fighter moves we're keeping. Weidman from taking him down at will. Instead, he continued on with his Soul Train-Jitsu and swallowed his jawbone.

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  5. Exactly. But that's what these "Motivated Silva" people don't understand. They truly believe Weidman got a lucky punch and has no chance this time around.

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  6. The Brock news is interesting to me as a fan of MMA and wrestling. Brock lost in MMA to his own body more than anything. His losses to a roided to the gills Overeem and Cain on the upswing of his run aren't bad losses and both had more to do with his health than the opposition; not being able to take down Overeem showed all you needed to know about his career at that point.

    If he's healthy there's not a lot in the UFC HW division that should scare him. Bigfoot is gone for a year for PEDs. Cain is probably gone for awhile on injuries. Cormier is moving to LHW (and his size/game wouldn't worry Brock anyways). We're looking at the Browne/Barnett winner, Werdum, Stipe Miocic (and obviously JDS even though he can't be pushed as a contender anymore for obvious reasons) as the "class" of the division.

    If Brock came back he wouldn't just be doing fights against other washed up guys like Big Nog, Frank Mir, Roy Nelson just to sell tickets and PPVs, he could come back today off the street and be a top 10 UFC HW just by default. He would easily beat the 3 guys I mentioned and would have a shot at moving back into serious competition. Again, if he's healthy.

    As to why this is being brought up, it's not really a mystery. If Weidman wins tonight in mysterious fashion Dana could be faced with a big problem. He's lost his #1 PPV attraction for "awhile" already and could lose his #2 tonight. Jon Jones is a good hand and the rematch with Gustaffson (if they get there) is going to sell 800k but the cupboard is starting to look bare as far as proven PPV draws. Even if Brock came back as a "special attraction" just to fight Nog/Mir/Nelson/Gonzaga and whoever else they drag out of mothballs, that might start to look real good to Dana. Dana would like nothing more than for Brock to come back, smash a couple of washed up guys, make some fast money and then solve his JDS problem before Cain comes back.

    I suspect nothing will come of it but it's very interesting that the rumors have been going around given what's going on currently with the business of the UFC.

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  7. I honestly don't know where all this Brock back to the UFC talk came from. Someone asked Dana if he was coming to the show tonight and he said he didn't know. Next thing I know, I'm reading a story about how Dana is keeping Brock's return under wraps. WTF? Brock ain't going anywhere, he signed a 3 year deal last year.

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  8. Brock called Dana and asked to meet with him during the show this weekend. Sounds like he has an itch that only Dana can scratch.

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  9. Weidman AND Tate win tonight. Book it.

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  10. Weidman is not some punk, Scott. He's an incredible talent - even if he loses tonight, he will probably be at the top of the mountain again. The 'lucky punch' thing is ridiculous - the flicker jab that set up the finishing blow was awesome. This guy is amazing, win, lose, or draw.

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  11. Weidman, yes.

    Tate, no. However, we all win if she wears tight spandex.

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  12. I never said it was a lucky punch, but watching the countdown shows really hammers home how much Silva was in control of the second round before the KO ended it. I'd be glad to see Weidman retain and be a new dominant champion, but I think Silva is about to wake up and end him tonight.

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  13. Poor Weidman. The guy is unbeaten, is clearly an A+ fighter and he cleanly knocked out the greatest of all time....yet still nobody gives him credit since it was a "lucky punch" and Silva was clowning more than usual.

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if Anderson wins, of course, but I suspect this could resemble the Penn/Edgar fights. Frankie wins the first and everyone just assumes it's a fluke....under Edgar beats BJ completely soundly in the rematch.

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  14. Yeah people keep forgetting Cat Zingano kicked Tate's ass all over the place in the last fight and she only got this fight due to injury

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  15. I like Tate, but no doubt. She's leaving with her arm in a take home bag.

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  16. I know there's nothing to the story, but it'd still be a shame to see Brock go back to UFC, since a Batista/Brock battle is still a dream match for me.

    Having said that, I wouldn't blame him one bit. I would have walked after the whole HHH feud.

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  17. So you would have walked out of the best wrestling contract ever just because the feud that you *WON* 2 matches to 1 wasn't dominated by you quite enough. Call me crazy, but I don't think Brock is *THAT* much of a mark...

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  18. Could Brock get a match in UFC against someone and win in a way that it mutually beneficial to WWE and UFC? Brock beats up some mid-level guy or no-name guy, and wwe can talk up how Brock is still dominating the Octagon, while Dana counts all his money from a big drawing fight without sacrificing anyone important?

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  19. I'm intrigued by this idea and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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  20. Could the egos align? In theory it seems like a win win win for Vince, Dana, and Brock, but we've all seen Vince be vindictive and tank things just due to ego.

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  21. Unless Brock is going to fight Frank Mir everytime he should never go back. Ever since he got his ass kicked by Shane Carwin and survived to win he's been afraid to take a punch.

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  22. If Brock holds up Vince for money to work mania he becomes my all time favorite guy

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  23. Re: Brock
    Its seems like a fake sports rumor story of the week type deal but if he fought a ufc match with the wwe as one of his corporate sponsorships that could be kind of interesting and get vkm a little of that mainstream attention he always seems so desperate for.

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  24. That's how Japanese MMA did business with crossovers between current pro wrestling stars and MMA fighters. Then again many of those fights were fixed. The ones that weren't usually were hilarious mismatches like Alberto Del Rio getting his head kicked off by Cro Cop.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq0-Ia6n15o

    I don't think either the UFC or WWE would be interested in this kind of arrangement at the present though. UFC can't have the stigma of possible fixed fights surrounding them right now even for Brock and while WWE doesn't have a lot of promotional muscle invested in Brock, that's just not how Vince does business. Both sides deal in promotional exclusives; if Dana wasn't willing to bend the rules for Fedor at the tail end of his prime he's not doing it for Brock.

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  25. Like all UFC rumors that come from Ariel Helwani, it's deliberately planted by Dana and the UFC promotional arm. I don't doubt that there's interest on Brock's side, even if it's tepid and I don't doubt that the UFC would be interested in getting a proven PPV draw to work some dead dates in 2014 for them. It's fun to think about, but it's just another Helwani story.

    There are just too many reasons why it can't and won't work and WWE/Vince's interest aren't even in the top 3.

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  26. Lol. Hed complete the Holy trinity: warrior, jarrett, Brock.

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  27. Silva was getting in his head in the second, but landed nothing.

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  28. Would Brock's contract allow him to do both? I mean there is certainly enough time between his WWE matches to train for a UFC fight...

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  29. I think the real shame is that Brock has almost the same record in the fake WWE since coming back that he did in the real UFC (3-2 WWE, 4-3 UFC). I just have no interest in Brock the Pro Wrestler, and would rather see him pulling Frank Mir.

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  30. Tate actually won the first two rounds against Zingano, and Cat caught Miesha with at least one illegal knee en route to victory. We can argue about that rule and if Tate purposely put her hand down to make them illegal, but she dominated the fight until that point.

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  31. The dude in the great white hype had no motivation and put in no effort in his training and then still just killed the guy (which was so funny) but otherwise I totally agree with Scott

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  32. Wow. That clip is awesome. Never seen it before.

    You make some good points on the cross promotional stuff. There would be alot of money and a ton of interest in a Brock cross promotional deal but the semantics of it would just be to tough to pull off.

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  33. Over under on the Rousey fight is on my 1.5 rounds. Would probably still take the under.

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