Instead of a Daniel Bryan home game in Seattle, will be at the Izod
Center in Jersey, home of last year's Smarkapalooza Raw following
WrestleMania.
http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/96-wwe/35304-location-of-extreme-rules-2014
So they are possibly going in front of the same crowd that gave
Ziggler one of the all-time pops, shit on Sheamus/Randy Orton, and
amused themselves by singing Fandango's theme song with rematches of
Orton/Batista and Cena/Wyatt? Sign me up.
Personally I'd be happier with WWE getting their head out of their ass and pushing the people we want to watch rather than another shitty PPV ruined by angry fans hijacking the show.
Not me, with me not being a big fan of the current product there's nothing I like more than a crowd shitting on their ideas. Sounds good to me
ReplyDeleteI love it more when it's a cena or orton match.
ReplyDeleteExtreme Rules after Mania never made sense to me. It should be a PPV that ends feuds with a bunch of gimmick matches but it comes after a PPV that should too.
ReplyDeleteBook stuff from Jan. to Mania. In April start clean and build to Extreme Rules in June. Start fresh again in July with MITB and blow it off at SummerSlam. Book from Sept. to Dec do the same with TLC. Repeat.
And speaking of PPVs, they need to bring back In Your House as a network special and call it In Your Ipad.
ReplyDeleteI'll quote myself from a recent post, as it is applicable here:
ReplyDelete"Look at how we're discussing a MAIN EVENT of Wrestlemania. What the
fuck are they thinking when their proposed World Title match has to be
discussed in terms of how best to hide it to avoid mass audience revolt?
There's not listening to the fans and then there's THIS. It makes no
fucking sense! Orton's heat has died due to The Authority angle and the
fans are already shitting on Batista to the point he has to cut
in-commercial promos praising the home-towns sports teams. How can they
possibly think a Batista/Orton match is the way to go at 'Mania at this
point?
It is literally the Skinner quote: "No Seymour, it's the children who
are wrong." Except instead of a comedically naive school principal,
it's people who run a multi-million dollar business. I just don't get
it."
If they actually go through with the Batista/Orton match as a World Title match, that will be the most damning indictment of their unwillingness to listen to fans that I've ever seen. It makes no sense from a fiscal standpoint and it's CLEAR the fans don't want it. Now they don't even have the "Extreme Rules is in Bryan's home-town so it will mean more for him to win the belt there," excuse.
Look, I'm as sick as anybody of the constant "PUSH BRYAN" talk but the reason everyone's perservering with it is because it is the only thing that makes sense and yet it seems they STILL won't do it. They're insane.
Phoning It In
ReplyDeleteThat would take forward planning and initiative, so it ain't gonna happen. It would be the ideal way to book, though, I agree. Kinda like four seperate (but combined) 3-month seasons of television.
ReplyDeleteThe Royal Tumblr?
ReplyDeleteStreamSlam?
ReplyDeleteKing of the Bing?
ReplyDeleteI know it is unrealistic to expect them to book Mania to Mania like back in the day, but I don't think it would be hard for them to do what I suggested above if they wanted to.
ReplyDeleteHuluboree?
ReplyDeleteIn YouTube House?
ReplyDeleteIn Your Tout?
ReplyDeleteThat sound gross.
"Personally I'd be happier with WWE getting their head out of their ass and pushing the people we want to watch rather than another shitty PPV ruined by angry fans hijacking the show."
ReplyDeleteOh Scott, but it doesn't matter what the fans want. What matters is that they stupidly wrote stupid shit into Batista's contract because they think he's a movie star for some reason.
Fun fact: Stacy Keibler is a bigger mainstream star than Batista.
Halloween Hulu is way better. Fuck.
ReplyDeleteLegit question because I don't really follow the ratings or understand them like some other people do: would doing what the live crowds want translate to what the home viewer wants? Or would the ratings absolutely tank because there's evidence the new guys can't draw yet?
ReplyDeleteI realize that it is the WWE's fault for not doing shit over the years to build strong new talent. However, I am unsure if the solution would be as easy as transitioning the old guys out and the new guys in.
It may be a tough situation. Perhaps by trying to quiet the hijacking fans they end up affecting other numbers such as the ratings. Again, my knowledge on this is a little weak so maybe others can comment on it.
Or Huluween Havoc.
ReplyDeleteThe real winner here is puns.
People who know who Stacy is but not Batista don't watch wrestling so it doesn't matter.
ReplyDeleteDamn it!
ReplyDeleteIt would be fitting if they returned to using the Backlash name for the first post Mania PPV.
ReplyDeleteI've said it before but it bears repeating: Imaging if this company put as much effort into giving us what we want instead of working around hostile crowds.
ReplyDeleteAnd people who watch wrestling didn't watch Batista's movies.
ReplyDeleteAnd people who will watch Guardians of the Galaxy aren't going to watch Batista wrestle.
No Meme?
ReplyDeleteThere is a pretty big crossover of wrestling and comics fans.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait for all the Mania rematches at Extreme Rules.
ReplyDeletePWI had something up today (more rumor stuff that I'm not really believing) that the locker room is under the impression that Triple H will beat Bryan at WrestleMania. IF that happens and its the middle of the card or second from the top, I really feel bad for who has to follow that match.
ReplyDeleteIt's a bizarre thing that, as the general crowd's wishes have started to meld somewhat with the IWC's (ie. Punk, Bryan being beloved) HHH and presumably Vince's adversarial relationship with the IWC has become an adversarial relationship with the fanbase as a whole. In the past, HHH could snark about guys like Jericho, RVD and co. and say they were "internet darlings" but not big enough to be the guy. Now we have their actual audience saying week-in week-out "We WANT these guys!" and he's persisting with that attitude. It's a frankly bizarre way to run a business and it could only happen in wrestling. Say what they will, they're all still carnies at heart and we're all just the marks who they see as inferior.
ReplyDeleteRatings are a tricky thing. Viewers basically need a feeling of consistency in order for ratings to get a good sense of the ratings. I mean, hell, a couple weeks ago they got a huge ratings gain and it was all attributed to Batista. Well, Batista is still in the same exact position and still appears in the same amount of segments, yet the ratings have gone back down to their usual level. Does that make him any more or less a draw than anybody else no the roster now?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if that really answers your question, but ratings discussions drive me crazy. It's just such an archaic form of measurement and it's not entirely accurate either. Such a tiny percentage of fans are actually Nielsen family -- FAR less than the 10% that is always attributed to "internet fans."
I think that Triple H feels like having a guy work with him is giving them a huge rub whether the Nose lets his opponent win or not. I think Bryan will get the Sheamus Mania 26 treatment with Triple H going over in about 10-12 minutes.
ReplyDeletePart of me wants that to happen to see the IWC explode and the live audience + post-Mania RAW go freakin' nuts.
ReplyDeleteNo Way Tout?
ReplyDeleteIf Triple H wants to build a huge new heel, he should have the Authority "sponsor" or back someone and have them beat Bryan at Mania. Instant mega heel.
ReplyDeleteI'd say comic book movies have become more mainstream in general. The last couple of women I've dated LOVED the Avengers.
ReplyDeleteFor the record, I don't believe that either, but if he really did have the balls to do that, would we see an NWO level like trash being thrown in the ring? Would they make it a cage match so they couldn't throw trash in the ring? That would definitely give them some unexpected PR.....let me stop giving them ideas lol.
ReplyDeleteExtreme Rules *USED* to be in the June slot. Why did they move it?
ReplyDeletePeople are already saying no way to Tout.
ReplyDeleteHe's jobbed at 'Mania plenty in the past so I don't know if I buy the rumours. That being said, if they do that, it will be fascinating to watch the crowd outrage. HHH may wish he was viewed as a Legend but, as has become clear from his attempts at post-match sympathy in the last few years, he ain't the Undertaker and a handshake to a plucky opponent is not rub enough alone.
ReplyDeleteConsidering Triple H's reputation among those who now make WrestleMania a spectacle for attendance and such, if there's one thing might cause the fans to throw stuff at the ring and induce a riot, him going over Bryan clean with a Pedigree would do it.
ReplyDeleteStarrcode
ReplyDeleteHe'd probably hit that pedigree, then take a minute to make the cover and have Bryan lay there and sell it the whole time.
ReplyDeleteFucking douche.
I could just see the headlines on Entertainment Tonight or TMZ "WWE's Wrestlemania event delayed due to angry fans throwing trash in the ring....."
ReplyDeleteRedditmania
ReplyDeleteI loved the storytelling of this era and I don't care if I'm hated for enjoying Russo's style in the then Wwf
ReplyDeleteActually, I'm wondering if all this Bryan stuff has made the general "angry audience" warm up to Cena a bit. Whereas Orton and Batista and Big Show and Triple H and all these other guys have seemingly either taken Bryan's place or gotten in his way, Cena has basically stepped aside and done his own thing (partially due to injury, admittedly). And while some guys have reacted negatively to Bryan chants (Triple H, Batista, Orton) or have tried to hijack his catchphrase (Big Show), John Cena has SPOKEN OUT for him. He's one of the few top guys who doesn't seem to be the problem.
ReplyDeleteThe most annoying thing? THEY PUSHED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE! Somebody gave Bryan the US Title, a Money in the Bank win, and a World title. And tons of TV time with Kane in a bullshit angle that he shouldnt' have gotten over, but did anyway. They created this monster and he's way more over than he should be, and they refuse to pull the trigger on it?!
ReplyDeleteFuck, not only that, they put him on that fucking Diva's show, too! They give him a ton of time on mutliple platforms and are SURPRISED people want to see him on top?
Really? I don't even remember that.
ReplyDeleteMy PPV lineup would be:
Rumble
Battleground
Mania
Elimination Chamber
Backlash
Extreme Rules
Money In The Bank
SummerSlam
No Mercy
Night of Champions
Survivor Series
TLC
Bing of the Ring?
ReplyDeleteOr King of the Bing?
ReplyDeleteIf you had to choose one, do you choose Bryan vs. Sheamus or Bryan vs. Triple H at Mania?
ReplyDeleteBryan over HHH is the logical way to go.
ReplyDeleteIf ratings are so inconsistent like that, I don't see how slowly shuffling the guys the live fans wanna see further up the card would affect too much. It's not even a matter of completely taking the "draws" out but slowly moving guys up instead of having them tread water.
ReplyDeleteI mean, yeah, if the ratings suddenly went down 1.5 points in a month there's a severe problem but it would likely just be some small dips until the consistency you mentioned is in place.
Barely Pornhub.
ReplyDeleteI'd say Bryan vs HHH ONLY if this is his retirement match.
ReplyDeleteI'd use some WCW names -- Halloween Havoc and The Great American Bash.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to see that as well, but who knows what they are thinking.
ReplyDeleteThe fucked up thing is THEY THINK they are booking Mania to Mania long-term.
ReplyDeleteCall me crazy but I loved everything about this Kane-Undertaker feud. It was all so absurd but in a lovable kind of way.
ReplyDeleteit's still funny, because Triple H still has a large nose.
ReplyDeleteYou're exactly right. And this whole angle since Summerslam has been built around denying him the belt and saying "You're not good enough! You're too short and ugly, etc." which only makes sense if you're planning on giving him his big triumphant moment to prove those comments wrong. Otherwise, why the hell book that way?
ReplyDeletePeople like Lance Storm say "He's still being pushed. He doesn't have to be World Champion to be a star." To which I'd retort, the WHOLE ANGLE is saying to be a true star he HAS to win the title! If not, what the hell was Summerslam-Hell In A Cell all about?
I never liked Cena more when he was putting Bryan over clean as a sheet at Summerslam.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I did hate how the angle started with Bryan just sort of handing him a title shot.
Elimination Chamber shouldn't be its own PPV anymore. Same as the Cell, it should be used when it's needed, not because it's February.
ReplyDeleteQuestion, do you think Cena is a little envious of DB's crowd reactions. DB gets universal cheers from kids and adults alike while he just gets cheers from the kiddies.
ReplyDeleteBryan / Triple H with Bryan winning. Bryan's loss amplified by the fact that the audience are now apparently marks for themselves would cause the rest of the show to be ruined if Triple H won.
ReplyDeleteOut of all the stupid things WWE has done over the past 6-8 months, giving the crowd a Slammy was the absolute dumbest.
I agree with HIAC but Chamber is like the Rumble at this point, its a big multi man gimmick match.
ReplyDeleteThe melding thing is fascinating.
ReplyDeleteThe minority has become the majority, but they think they can still pretend they don't exist
Jeez, I know they're sick of the "Bryan" chants but you don't think they'd make him RETIRE, do you?!
ReplyDeleteHHH is a monster!
I would throw WCW names on there but realistically, that would never happen. If I could name them whatever I wanted It'd be:
ReplyDeleteRumble
SuperBrawl
Mania
King of the Ring
One Night Stand
WrestleWar
Great American Bash
SummerSlam
Clash of the Champions
Halloween Havoc
Survivor Series
Starrcade
I see what you did there.........
ReplyDeleteBryan vs HHH for the title.
ReplyDeleteHHH pins Bryan and becomes WWE champion,I can see the crowd going BATB 96 with that result.
ReplyDeletei really dont even care anymore. there's nothing we can do. whatever happens, happens. just suck it up and move on
ReplyDeleteThat's out motto,suck it up and move on.
ReplyDelete"another shitty PPV ruined by angry fans hijacking the show."
ReplyDeletewe didn't ruin nothin'! that ppv will go down in history as must-see
Probably. And that Bryan is getting those "universal cheers" is why I don't understand why they don't turn Cena heel and make Bryan the #1 face. He can do all the stuff Cena does -- probably better.
ReplyDeleteFor the bad reasons
ReplyDeleteSee that's how I feel. I'm more amazed they continue to make decisions despite what the fans want (and I'm not saying the fans should always get what they want exactly when they want it). I'll watch for stuff that's interesting, the moment it stops being at least remotely entertaining, I stop watching.
ReplyDeleteI hate Elimination Chamber matches. The only one I've like is the one from 2005, and not so surprisingly that's the one with the best workers.
ReplyDeleteBut he's a goat! Don't you see?
ReplyDeleteI just hope it doesn't morph into "they treat us like we are a part of it all, let's shit on everything!" and stays confined to loudly letting them know that they suck.
ReplyDeleteYES! If the whole point is for the bad guys to say, "you can't be champion," then if that angle doesn't end with that guy BEING CHAMPION, what's the fucking point?
ReplyDeletethe home viewer is a live crowd member waiting to happen
ReplyDeletei'm not sure people know who she is outside of "i think i saw her name linked to clooney"
ReplyDeleteHHH going over might have been the plan with the Punk/HHH match (which I can totally see them justifying if Punk was saying he's not re-upping in June), but doing that with Bryan would be so insane.
ReplyDeletePeople who read Us Weekly aren't buying PPVs.
ReplyDeleteShe fucked Clooney, and he's in a movie that hasn't come out yet.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'd say she's more popular.
what, is she all over us weekly or something?
ReplyDeletewhy are *you* reading us weekly?
Could not be more false.
ReplyDeleteI hate all of those people that dress up and chant stuff at the theater when I'm trying to watch The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Why can't those people just sit back and quietly enjoy the movie?
ReplyDeleteIs this just going to be another case similar to Cena? Whenever a wrestler the WWE tries to push gets shit on, they'll just say said wrestler is controversial?
ReplyDeleteYou've introduced a fresh new twist to an American pastime.
ReplyDeleteGood job!
How much would the company and the wrestlers lose if they changed to a once a week super card house show in big markets? God knows it would benefit the bodies and mindsets of the wrestlers.
ReplyDeleteBeware of Blog
ReplyDeleteBut if the PPV is already shitty, how can the fans ruin it?
ReplyDeletei thought you said he had a great idea
ReplyDeleteSlight threadjack here: Netflix is now showing The History of WWE. All 9 hours of it.
ReplyDeleteWhen the PPV was titled "Backlash" it made a lot of sense.
ReplyDeleteHeel Cena, Batista, Orton, and Lesnar is a super group isn't a great idea, it is the GREATEST IDEA.
ReplyDeletewhat's your favorite country?
ReplyDeletesay it! say it!
asshole!
The doc is legit great. I was shocked at how much they were able to put in there.
ReplyDeleteI haven't picked up the set yet, so I may just check it out over the weekend on NF.
ReplyDeleteShe banged Clooney and was on Dancing with the Stars. In the WWE's eyes, SHE should have won the Royal Rumble and main evented Wrestlemania.
ReplyDeleteHas ton of controversy in there,right?
ReplyDeleteIf GoTG becomes a hit Batista will beat Bruno Sammartino record as champion.
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen it, but I'm assuming that there will be some rewritten history in there at some point.
ReplyDeleteSwitch Eliminator Chamber and Backlash
ReplyDeletea 9 hour documentary?
ReplyDeleteNot really from what I remember. They even go pretty hardcore into the steroid trials.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, just Batista, Orton, and Cena together as a heel faction would be an amazing idea post Wrestlemania. At this point, WWE can hedge their wagon to Bryan
ReplyDeleteBrock can be their "break only in case of emergencies" weapon.
ReplyDeleteThat finish would be consistent with previous results.
ReplyDeleteTriple H has "made" three men in wrestling: Batista, Chris Benoit, and John Cena. That's all. No one else has decisively defeated Triple H the way these three men did in 2004, 2005, and 2006. Before and after that? The man is useless. He actually thought (on multiple occasions) that booking himself to initially beat a guy in the first showdown to set up the rematch would actually generate better numbers, when classic storytelling shows that it's usually the COMPLETE OPPOSITE.
Examples:
--Wrestlemania XVI, where he decides to put himself over The Rock. The idea here is that Rock would eventually get him at Backlash and win the title. This was the one time the formula worked, but then again Rock would be cheered regardless.
--Wrestlemania XIX, where he books himself over Booker T. He insults him, he says mean-spirited things with racial undertones, and....no comeuppance. Triple H takes a short nap after pedigreeing him, and kills Booker's heat in the process.
--Summerslam 2003, where he puts himself over Goldberg, for Christ's sake! Goldberg was a complete afterthought when this show was over, and eventually winning the title wouldn't change a damn thing about it.
--Unforgiven 2004 and Wrestlemania 25: Randy Orton gets the honors twice, first as a member of Evolution and later as a member of the Legacy. I've never seen a more deflated ending for a babyface than the end of Wrestlemania XXV. Sure, eventually Orton won the title at Backlash, but not before Triple H cements himself as the winner of the main event on the Silver Anniversary of Wrestlemania.
--Elimination Chamber/Wrestlemania 2010: Triple H had a chance to make Sheamus out of the gate, but he pinned him twice before Sheamus could finally get a chance to destroy him at Extreme Rules.
See, that's not good decision making. Outside of the guys listed at the top, Triple H seems to like making sure that his needs are met first before he can elevate anyone and pass any kind of torch.
With that said...expect Triple H to beat Bryan at Wrestlemania XXX (when it matters), and then Bryan will get his piddly revenge win at the following PPV.
STUPID.
If anything, the fans hijacking the show makes it more entertaining. It helps if you picture Vince throwing a shit fit backstage.
ReplyDelete"I don't understand it! I gave them another Cena/Orton match, and they're still chanting for Daniel Bryan. WHAT DO THEY WANT FROM ME?!"
Except Batista is not the star of the movie. Bradley Cooper's voice is.
ReplyDeleteBradley Cooper isn't either. Chris Pratt is.
ReplyDeleteIt's better that way. The Backlash after the biggest show of the year!
ReplyDeleteAnd the winner is...
ReplyDeleteThat's basically what they did in 1998 and 1999, too. The storylines basically reset after WrestleMania XIV and gradually built towards Summerslam. Then everything after Summerslam culminated in the Deadly Games Tournament. Then after Survivor Series, everything built to Rock vs. Austin at WrestleMania XV and so on...
ReplyDeleteAh, the days when the WWF actually had a long term direction.
Survivor Series of Poker?
ReplyDeleteYou're on to something with John Cena turning heel the night after Wrestlemania XXX. I mean, the bulk of their fans would be locked in, so why not take a chance?
ReplyDeleteOnly problem...the minute he turns, you guys are going to fall in love with him. He'd be very good as a heel, and I don't think you guys know HOW good he would be, if it happened.
The WWE would have a LOT of work to do in rebuilding the reputation of Cody and Ziggler to get them to even remotely be believable. Hell, even with DB, I'm halfway programmed to think there would be a screwjob in a match with either of these guys, Zigs and Cody are jobbers compared to them.
ReplyDeleteIf this is true, it's pretty remarkable that they would change the location of PPVs to actively avoid the Bryan thing.
ReplyDeleteNo! No rematches after Mania. f that noise. The backlash after Chamber yo.
ReplyDeleteFandango's totally winning the WWE Title
ReplyDeleteI too think it's possible this stuff starts a terrible trend. I'll point to the examples of Daniel Bryan chants while Punk was getting put through the announce table at RR, and then chanting for Punk during the best match of the Orton-Bryan series (though to be fair it is the 100th match they've had together in 6 months) I think the fans are starting to fall in love with the idea that they can be heard and acknowledged for going "against the grain" ie: chanting for anything BUT what happens in the ring.
ReplyDeleteI get that initially it was based off legitimate protest, but as it spreads to the mainstream fans it may become the equivalent of the people who have to throw themselves in front of the camera during local news broadcasts.
lmao
ReplyDeleteOnly way a Cena heel turn backfires is if they put him against bland babyfaces like the Miz. Put him against Bryan and people will choose Bryan over him.
ReplyDeletePlus, when he was a heel, Cena made a Kobe Bryant joke. What if it happens again?
ReplyDeletePrimetime Players will another new manager.
ReplyDeleteDocumentary + matches.
ReplyDeleteI've never seen a company in such open opposition of its own fanbase. Like, why even become an entertainment entity if you're going to go to such lengths to not do what the fans want to see? Egos, I'll tell ya.
ReplyDeleteThis idea is so awesome I'm angry at you over the fact that I didn't come up with it myself.
ReplyDeleteIt took me a minute to process lol
ReplyDeleteLess offensive than some options. I'd have him Honky Tonk the hell out of it for a couple of months. Summer Rae with a megaphone, the whole nine.
ReplyDeleteWas it ever confirmed Extreme Rules was definitely going to be in Seattle?
ReplyDeleteThe idea is so awesome I'm angry Vince didn't come up with it.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention facing Undertaker, losing, then Undertaker challenges HIM to a rematch at 28.
ReplyDeleteI watched up until they got to the Attitude Era and thought it was great. Are the matches on Netflix?
ReplyDeleteSooo.. Am I the ONLY one that thinks Wyatt/Cena could be good?
ReplyDeleteI think since Batista already won the Rumble they should have Bryan win the chamber then as he is celebrating, Heyman comes to the ring with Lesnar. Lesnar then beats the living crap out of him. Batista makes the save.
ReplyDeleteBryan(c) vs. Batista vs. Lesnar at Mania for the belt
Bryan retains somehow then defends in a singles match with Lesnar at Extreme Rules.
Undertaker works with Reigns or something.
It sounds great! For something like Extreme Rules or Payback.
ReplyDeleteIt's not exactly how you should sell the signature show on its 30th Anniversary.
Wyatt changed my mind completely at the Rumble. The guy has talent. He is a modern day Mick Foley.
ReplyDeleteIt could be good. It's just not a WrestleMania program.
ReplyDeleteWhat would you like to see Cena do as his Mania program?
ReplyDeleteYeah I thought that he looked great. I mean he was working with Bryan and that gets you have way there, but I though that he held his end up.
ReplyDeleteCena v. Undertaker or GTFO.
ReplyDeleteBesides Taker, since they aren't going that route.
ReplyDeleteI thought it was a total puff piece.
ReplyDeleteI've been on that bandwagon since forever, but if they're not doing it I think Wyatt is a decent program.
ReplyDeleteOf course Wyatt needs to win,
"may become the equivalent of the people who have to throw themselves in front of the camera during local news broadcasts."
ReplyDeleteVery apt comparison, but at the same time wouldn't you think - as far as WWE is concerned - if fans want to pay to get into an arena to chant the opposite of what's in the ring rather than what it's in it, it's win/win for them at least in terms of live event revenue?
Why not Cena vs. Orton vs. Bryan?
ReplyDeleteThe whole thing is eight months in the making, dating back to Summerslam 2013.
Bryan retaining at Mania and Wyatt beating Cena would throw Bryan vs. Wyatt into an immediate title program because of Wyatt's Rumble win. I'd like that.
ReplyDeleteThat would be neat. The chamber should've been for another #1 contenders spot.
ReplyDeleteI don't think they're actively avoiding anything by going to IZOD, dude.
ReplyDeleteIf anything, they're walking into the fire. Much like the March 3 Raw.
We will never let that one gol
ReplyDeleteI have been trying to think of any company, not just an entertainment one, that does this and I'm drawing blanks. Can you imagine Pepsi Co. continuing to push Crystal Pepsi as consumers continue to crap on it? It took them 3 minutes to get that stuff off the shelves.
ReplyDeleteThat would be awesome. A fresh main event scene just like that, with two guys that work well together.
ReplyDeleteGo ask Abe Washington what happens.
ReplyDeleteAdidas and the NBA seem to be doing with the dreaded sleeved jersey abominations, now that I think about it. They've been universally crapped on by both the players and the fans yet they keep trying to shove them down our throats.
ReplyDeleteWell the difference is Pepsi has Coke, Dr Pepper, bottled water, etc as competition, WWE has.........MMA....although not really the same.
ReplyDeleteI was for them unifying the two titles, but situations like this make more sense for them to have two world titles. Cena and Orton and Batista can go blah blah on one of the titles, and Bryan vs. Wyatt can wrestle for another.
ReplyDeleteI don't think they are going to last through the year if they don't sell. Now if they were pushing it for the next six years while fans openly revolted well...........
ReplyDeleteBut that was the post WM crowd, with out of county/ state people. Are we sure that the regular crowd can pull it off.
ReplyDeleteGranted it's not a 1:1 comparison, but still no other company purposely antagonizes their fanbase like those boys from Stamford.
ReplyDeleteYou can write another letter!
ReplyDeleteMaybe WWE didn't like all of those guys hogging spotlight that could be on the guys they want it on.
ReplyDeleteArmareddit.
ReplyDeleteNo I agree with you, I'm just saying the reason they can get away with it is because there's no real pressure on them from a competing company to change their ways. If this were 1996 instead of 2014, I would feel pretty safe in predicting DB would probably either have the championship, or be a MAJOR favorite to win the championship at Wrestlemania because they would be trying to steal viewers from WCW.
ReplyDeleteThat general area has some of the best wrestling fans in the world. Anything close to NYC will bring some rowdy crowds.
ReplyDeleteFantastic.
ReplyDeleteWhy not? We are always bitching about WWE never elevating anyone, this is their shot with Bray.
ReplyDeleteLol, I felt like such an idiot for that, and for fighting with Jobber123.
ReplyDeleteI almost feel like Sgt. Slaughter here....I want my country back!
It's getting me so mad, that I'm thinking about getting an angry avatar.
ReplyDeleteAlthough they don't have a wrestling company competing with them they are still battling for entertainment dollars. That's why I don't understand the mindset.
ReplyDeleteI went to Raw back in November and spent a total of about 70 bucks. There are still other ways I could have spent that for entertainment. It's like they don't believe I will, or don't care.
I thought Big Show made that joke.
ReplyDeleteI'm just scared that after Mania they will treat Bray like everyone else and he'll be in the 50/50 mix.
ReplyDeleteAgreed
ReplyDeleteYou make valid point but I still say take the risk
ReplyDeleteThe WWE app need a camera on Vince at all times now. That would be a real fun second screen experience.
ReplyDeleteYeah but here's my thing with Wyatt - why would he care about titles? What's his endgame and motivation?
ReplyDeleteThe guy has been around eight months, and has not even had one real, tangible, plausible reason for anything he's done so far. That's why.
ReplyDeleteIf I ever disagree with you about anything again, point me to this post and I will rescind whatever I am saying.
ReplyDeleteI almost feel like this is Cena's "Rock n'Sock vs. Evolution" match.
ReplyDeleteFine. With the powers vested in me, I officially pardon you for past crimes against the BoD. Your punishment is teaming with Jim Duggan and feuding against jobbers.
ReplyDeletePromo videos following you around the country or GTFO
ReplyDeleteIt gets buried on the card and elevates no one, that's why. If Taker-?, HHH-Bryan, and Batista-Lesnar/Orton are going on the card, Cena-Wyatt is buried (I'm beginning to hate that word, but bear with me) on the mid card. It will have all the impact of Sheamus-HHH at WM26 or Batista-Umaga at WM24. If Wyatt wins, it's not making a big enough splash on that particular night. If Cena wins, then it's business as usual.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong--it could be a hell of a match and a program to elevate Wyatt. But it'll get lost on Mania night.
Far be it from me to actually know what's in VKM's mind (not sure I'd want to know actually lol), but my guess is they think something like this:
ReplyDeleteWhile they want to be more than just a wrasslin company, they know they dominate "this" space, they ran their biggest competition out of business years ago, so they "know" what it takes to run their business. Which they do, but times change, tastes change. What do the fans know about "this business"? they've been doing it for decades.
And if you get enough insular thinking like that, without any outside pressure which threatens their well being (their financials aren't setting the world on fire, but they aren't poor either), you get plans that don't change no matter what the fans say. As long as they meet their minimum numbers for Wall St., they're good to go.
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ReplyDeleteHow did they sell the signature show on its 20th Anniversary?
ReplyDeleteIt's tradition. Every 10 years, three guys fight for the main title at Wrestlemania.
Plus, "the Devil made me do it" is not a justified reason for his actions. It's a punchline to a Little Caesar's commercial.
ReplyDeleteTrust me, with a card this lackluster, noting is getting lost if it stands out. Bray going over in 4 star or close match will make him.
ReplyDeletePerhaps the Authority are his higher powers.
ReplyDeleteIf the top of the card does fall apart and they put too much stock into Batista-Orton, you will be right about that one.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you need a reason? It is entertaining. He fucks with people and cuts creepy promos, what is not to love?
ReplyDeleteYeah, and it would fit with the way this year has been going.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I hate to admit it, you are right. From that pov it makes sense, but nothing says I have to like it. Though I don't think many of us do
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ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, brother. The character is quite fascinating...but Chris Jericho played a better Max Cady in 2008 than Bray is doing right now. At least Chris Jericho was a wronged man who sought out his own twisted justice.
ReplyDeleteI think Bray's doing more than fine with his character, master evil plan or not. His interactions with the Shield were the only highlights to last week's Raw other than the main event.
ReplyDeleteTriple H even referenced Yokozuna having to defend the title against both Bret and Luger the week after Shawn signed the contract.
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