RAW Rating
RAW was down slightly at 3% from last week. However, there was a sizable drop off in viewership during the last hour. Here is the hourly breakdown:
8 p.m. - 4.39 million viewers
9 p.m. - 4.51 million viewers
10 p.m. - 4.05 million viewers
http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/96-wwe/38223-raw-ratings-notes
Miz TV Segment Was Originally Scripted for RAW
A Miz TV segment with Bo Dallas as the guest was planned for RAW but scrapped at the last minute. There was talk of having a three-way match for the Intercontinental Title at SummerSlam between Dallas, Ziggler, and the Miz as well.
http://rajah.com/node/42340
How Much Does the WWE Offer For Tape Libraries
On his radio show yesterday, Dave Meltzer reported that the WWE's standard offer for video libraries are approximately $500 per hour of footage.
Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Radio
RAW was down slightly at 3% from last week. However, there was a sizable drop off in viewership during the last hour. Here is the hourly breakdown:
8 p.m. - 4.39 million viewers
9 p.m. - 4.51 million viewers
10 p.m. - 4.05 million viewers
http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/96-wwe/38223-raw-ratings-notes
Miz TV Segment Was Originally Scripted for RAW
A Miz TV segment with Bo Dallas as the guest was planned for RAW but scrapped at the last minute. There was talk of having a three-way match for the Intercontinental Title at SummerSlam between Dallas, Ziggler, and the Miz as well.
http://rajah.com/node/42340
How Much Does the WWE Offer For Tape Libraries
On his radio show yesterday, Dave Meltzer reported that the WWE's standard offer for video libraries are approximately $500 per hour of footage.
Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Radio
Man I hope the WWE is interested in my wrestling library.
ReplyDeleteCena = Ratingz
ReplyDeleteSouthern States should sell while they can
ReplyDeleteSo, does that mean Steph isn't a draw?
ReplyDeleteThey will blame Brie
ReplyDeleteSo you close the show with w divas angle and no one watches it, wow I'm shocked.
ReplyDeleteThe gap in ratings was almost as big as the gap between Steph's implants
ReplyDeleteCould we get another classic like the Jericho/Edge/Batista IC Triple Threat or how about Umaga/Carlito/Morrison?!?! I hate this formula: shoe-horn three names into a match without building a real issue, give them 6-8 minutes, and watch them do something utterly forgettable. The Raw match on PPV equation.
ReplyDeleteThe horse is out of the barn on this one, but a 2 hour Raw from 8-10 would do wonders for the product
ReplyDeleteShe's never been a draw.
ReplyDeleteZiggler/Miz/Dallas would have backstory, but nobody watches Smackdown.
ReplyDeleteDivas = bathroom break
ReplyDeleteBeen that way since Trish left
I don't think anyone disagrees with that, but unless we can pool together some money to make up for the revenue of the 3rd hour, I doubt the McMahons will care what we think. All about da money.
ReplyDeleteI already did blame Brie.
ReplyDeleteBeen that way since Lauper left
ReplyDeleteFtfy
I Bo-Lieve that if they all Show Off, the match will be Awesome.
ReplyDelete(see what I did there?)
I also blame Brie. Granted I didn't see it but I'm sure my assessment that she sucks is correct.
ReplyDeleteWould you watch it?
ReplyDeleteI have the first four years of ROH on DVD... wonder if WWE would buy it from me.
ReplyDeleteIt means Vince is going to get involved.
ReplyDeleteFor SummerSlam? I'll probably check the theatre listings, and will make a legit last minute decision, just like the Rumble, and the last 2 Manias.
ReplyDeleteYou don't own the rights to it.
ReplyDeletePossession is 9/10 of the law! (that's what pro rassling taught me in the 80's and 90's, every time a heel stole something)
ReplyDeleteAnd, you can be fired or suspended from your job, but can return under a mask. Just make sure that none of your coworkers take the mask off to reveal that it really was you all along.
ReplyDeleteSomeone should absolutely try this in the workplace.
Yes I do.
ReplyDeleteThe WWE should be the Rights to RoH. And by RoH, I mean they should just bring in Mandy Leon.
ReplyDeleteThe reason why so few angles qualify as great storylines is that they are poorly structured - they lack a clear beginning, middle and end, and there aren't the properly defined stakes for the characters (think the way WWE couldn't actually allow Cena to have a worst ever year or the way Punk's motivations evaporated when he was rushed back after leaving with the title at MitB)
ReplyDeleteIt's for these reasons that I think Orton Vs Foley stands as one of the greatest storylines the WWE ever did.
Starts off with Randy kicking Foley down some stairs before later spitting in Foley's face and Mick running off. Establishes Mick as not the man he used to be and a coward whilst playing up Randy's Legend Killer character.
Foley surprises Randy at the Royal Rumble, eliminating him. Foley has got some of his balls back but now Randy really has cause to want to take out Foley once and for all.
At WM XX it's evolution Vs rock n sock, though mick is still plagued by self doubt about not being able to go anymore. In the end he is proven right and Mick realises that he has to forget the man he has become and return to his violent past in order to defeat Orton.
However, the Orton he encounters in a bloody brawl at Backlash is not the preening pretender he has been so far. Instead, Orton gives Cactus as good as he gets.
In the end Foley's character motivations are paid off as he realises he's not a coward and he can still go if needs be. Likewise Orton's character grows from needing Evolution to back up his ego, to being a man in his own right.
Just a fantastically structured angle that tied the results of each match to the characters motivations.
"The Dusts vs. Anybody"....how is that a FEUD?
ReplyDeleteI've got a bunch of old VHS's, some of which are from shows where there masters are "damamged" (Superbrawl V and the August 1994 Clash of Champions spring to mind). I wonder how much WWE would give me for them? I really don;t want to throw them out.
ReplyDeleteAnd one where a Bella is supposed to be the face.
ReplyDelete#TeamStephanie
I work in a school I will definitely try this. I'm sure it won't end poorly.
ReplyDeleteWhat would happen if Bo Dallas and Beau James were on-screen together? #BoBros
ReplyDeleteThis might be a bit 'meta', but I tend to view Randy Savage's career arc from his WWF debut in 1985 to winning the WWF Title at WrestleMania VIII in Indianapolis as a continual storyline. Each of his chief opponents or rivals all culminated into his character and his relationships. His battles with Tito Santana, Bruno Sammartino and Ricky Steamboat established his possessiveness and his unhinged madness. The Honky Tonk Man feud symbolized the real beginning of his personal relationship with Elizabeth, who tried to redeem him with the help of Hulk Hogan, hence the MegaPowers alliance.
ReplyDeleteThe title win at WM IV through to the winter of 1989 was Savage trying to be something that he wasn't, and the ensuing fallout with Hogan and losing Elizabeth sparked a sort-of mental breakdown for the guy. He took on a new valet and relished the 'King' title as a sort of catharsis for himself. Ultimately that breakdown would cost him to start a fight he couldn't finish with the Ultimate Warrior, losing everything and being broken down to the very core of his being, when into his life one small flicker emerges, the one person who was there for him when the whole of the world was against him.
The Randy/Elizabeth reunion and eventual wedding storyline was among the best ever seen in wrestling to that point, and then like any true redeemed hero, the proverbial dark side in Jake Roberts and the Undertaker tested him and put him through Hell. When he overcame that, there was but one challenge left: to ascend to the top, on his own terms, by beating Ric Flair for the title. When he was celebrating with the title, with Elizabeth at his side and no need of outside help, it was like the end of a seven-year passion play. And it was a glorious time to be a fan.
If I were WWE, I would turn hour 1 into squash central, pretty much a modern day Superstars (even throw in a Brother Love segment like Miz TV), and then 9-11 become the 2 hour Raw you've always wanted. It wouldn't affect the Hour 1 ratings a bit, and 9-11 would become a much higher quality program.
ReplyDeleteI think we throw around the word "draw" far too much over here. I would be surprised if anyone had bought a ticket specifically to see Trish. I think "and Trish too!" is a possibility.
ReplyDeleteI think just walking into the school wearing a mask sounds like a fantastic idea!
ReplyDeleteWhen the McMahons don't draw, the answer is always more McMahons.
ReplyDeleteAnd hey, maybe it won't be Vince. Maybe it will be one of her kids.
They will blame Bryan and claim that crowds have cooled on him which is why the Stephanie - Brie segment bombed. It's all Bryan's fault make sure he's shunted down the card upon his return.
ReplyDeleteYep. "Wrestler I like = Draw", and "Wrestler I don't like = non-draw". I see that a lot too.
ReplyDeleteBetter yes, draw....I doubt it
ReplyDelete"Joedust had to call in sick today. I'm his Mexican cousin Josedust."
ReplyDeleteThe match is on the Top 50 Finishers DVD (I think?).
ReplyDeleteAt least Vince has charisma...
ReplyDeleteI hear Dubbya did.
ReplyDeleteWhy not show you're there for fun, not frowns, and bring a water pistol with you? Kids in summer love water pistol fights!
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised if mothers and daughters did. Probably not too too many but still more than nobody.
ReplyDeleteyeah those "technical difficulties" on SB V have left me wondering what Johnny actually B
ReplyDeleteSay what?
ReplyDeleteI said a few months back that the kids are almost old enough to get on TV and start holding people down on their own.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of video rights, how in the hell last year did the WWE get away with ripping the Bret/Andre match from YouTube and putting it on the DVD like that? If they didn't have the original broadcast tape, couldn't they have tracked it down? Or maybe tracked down the guy who uploaded the video in the first place and see if they could do a better job restoring it?
ReplyDeleteI said it yesterday before the ratings came out, and I'll say it again: who gives a shit about Steph/Brie, especially in the main event timeslot? Apparently half a million people agree that they should've been on earlier.
ReplyDeleteOh cool, did not know that!
ReplyDeleteOr not been on at all
ReplyDeleteI blame Bryan for these segments being on in his timeslot. Get better for chrissakes so I don't see this shit on at 10:45 anymore.
ReplyDeleteI swear, I need to come up with a way (like an app or an eBook or something) that catalogs where every match can be found on any published DVD.
ReplyDeleteI think we might be moving towards a new format of RAW: Strong opening/first hour, good start to the second hour and then the last 90 minutes becomes a version of WWF Superstars or a B-show. Basically, capture the audience early between 8-10 like the old SNME and then gradually add filler after that.
ReplyDeleteEven better idea.
ReplyDeleteThis angle would have worked soooooo much better with AJ. The people just don't care and don't like the Bellas, regardless of who they are dating or married to. Kevin Dunn and Vince's obsession with making them faces isn't going to work.
ReplyDeleteGood question. That guy should've sued.
ReplyDeleteThat would actually be a pretty cool project. I'd assist.
ReplyDeleteI posted this down below, but I would do it the opposite way: run squashes from 8-9 pm and then have the hot stuff from 9-11pm. They won't lose many viewers in that first hour and if the good stuff builds into the later hours it will probably build the audience.
ReplyDeleteIt was a WWF event that aired on television in Italy, so they didn't need to get the rights to it.
ReplyDeletewww.thehistoryofwwe.com has a majority of them
ReplyDeleteI say Tully-Magnum. It had the best build and payoff. Tully beats Magnum for the U.S. title. Magnum says he will get it back. Things just get meaner and meaner between them with the stakes rising each week. They finally sign an I quit cage match just b/c everyone agrees the feud needs to end. Neither man is the same afterwards. It was probably too good.
ReplyDeleteAJ hasn't proven she can be a successful face either.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I almost like the reverse better. People have to work the next day. I say just run the important stuff from 8-10 and then use the last hour to build midcard. They might lose the overrun that way, but does RAW REALLY need an overrun when it's three damn hours?
ReplyDeleteI don't think the guy who uploaded the video owned the rights to the video. It was either WWE (and they legit lost the tape?) or the French network the show was originally broadcast on -- which who knows, could be out of business. I'm just saying it's pretty goddamn bush league move for a multi-million dollar "media company" to do.
ReplyDeleteBut at least the crowd likes her. They don't care for Brie Bella in the slightest. Plus, at least AJ can do some mic work.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly what I'm talking about below. It's like his whole WWF existence was one story arc, really.
ReplyDeleteUnless your audience is kids, which they believe it is.....so 8-10 is the ideal period. But they need to make that more pronounced so that some of us can say 'fuck it' and go to sleep.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I couldn't believe it when I heard it.
ReplyDeleteTrue. So what if he has a broken freaking neck? It sure didn't stop Kurt Angle from winning that gold medal!
ReplyDeleteThat's usually where I go when I'm not sure, but I'm thinking something more functional -- like you can look up a match and see what DVDs its on or look up a DVD and see what matches are on it and where else they've been released. Like, I think it was the Rivalries DVD, when I looked at the match list and every one of the matches on there I already had somewhere else.
ReplyDeleteGoddamn right!
ReplyDeleteI remember when Eric Bischoff used that in a promo and cracked me up in the fall of 1996 when the Giant was carrying around the U.S. title as if it was his.
ReplyDeleteI know he has a DVD page that has full listings, not sure how updated it is.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone remember when RAW used to be from 8-10 when they were trying to get an hour edge on Nitro? I still remember Vince hyping the fact that RAW was beginning THREE MINUTES EARLIER at 7:57. I hated that because I had to do Boy Scouts from 7:30-9:00, so I missed lots of stuff.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Steph-Bella alone is responsible for the drop-off. Viewers were dropping all night. Hell, we do it too. We tune in for a while and see not much is going on so we bounce. Probably indicative of the overall viewership
ReplyDeleteBut...but....but it gives more guys a pay day! (Which they'll never receive since the WWE still hasn't given out Network-era checks)
ReplyDeleteGenetic Jackhammer, Jr. ?
ReplyDeleteUnless they begin calling the hours between 10-11 RAW RISQUE and run PG-13 angles. Lesbian teasing between Layla and Summer, Sandow addicted to drugs, New Nation telling black people riot. It'll be like the Attitude Era minus star power.
ReplyDeleteThe Bellas are naturally unlikable. No face turn involving them is going to work.
ReplyDeleteThey tried it in 97 (build to the middle, not the end) and it didn't really work well. Seriously I get what your saying though.
ReplyDeleteBy that line of thinking it'd be the aforementioned Foley/Orton angle for me.
ReplyDeleteWow...500 an hour is actually a lot more than I would have figured. TNA really needs to sell their library.
ReplyDeleteThis is a case where the WWE shoots themselves in the foot. They condition their audience that the Divas division is a joke, so when people see a divas segment they tune out. Great work Kevin Dunn!
ReplyDeleteBut also, the Bellas are not as big on the divas roster as Vince thinks they are. Allegedly, he thinks they and AJ are the only worthwhile pieces of the division. I'd argue that AJ, Paige, Natalya, Naomi, and Emma are higher on the diva totem pole, at least in terms of the amount of people interested in them, than the Bellas.
They're just going to blame Seth Rollins for this. His match with Jericho was the anvil of the 10-11 hour.
ReplyDeleteTrish was a draw for me. I tuned into the segments she was featured in and tuned out for most of the rest.
ReplyDeleteTNA hasn't been canclled nor is it folding. You people are still talking about this?
ReplyDeleteI was afraid you weren't going to plug there for a second!
ReplyDeleteI found the match on YouTube a few months before, stopped watching cause the quality was so bad, and then when I heard it was on Bret's DVD I thought, "Great!" Then of course it was the same shitty quality. Why did I pay for this???
ReplyDeleteI will say though, with a tear in my eye, that it was the best shitty quality video match I've ever seen. Bret's work really did overcome the crappy quality of the video.
I find the ending to be the hardest part. I read an analogy one time that basically said something to the effect of "Batman beats the Joker and then moves on to fight Two-Face. In wrestling, however, the Joker now needs something to do, so how do you end his feud with Batman in a way that keeps both people strong?"
ReplyDeleteTrue, but that was when they were running RAW unopposed in the first hour versus Nitro.
ReplyDeleteSee...the joke was they are hurting money wise..hence all the cut backs...so if they sold their library to vince at 500 an hour they would have more money.
ReplyDeleteA simple database app could do that. The research and data entry would be time consuming but the rest would be pretty easy.
ReplyDeleteIt was a good angle and the crowd was into it. Putting it in the main event slot is a risk, though. I have a feeling this is going to lead to a buildup of Bryan making an appearance at SS in Brie's corner to counter Triple H in Steph's. If that's the case, it'll be one of the hotter matches on the show, crowd-wise.
ReplyDeleteOver my head.
ReplyDeleteWow I can't believe TNA will get that much for their library. Vince will definitely low ball them on that garbage right?
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't really change the "here's the main event... and now an hour of crap" programming model you're suggesting. If they do the hour of crap from 8-9, even though you're watching squashes they can still build up to the big main event moment at 10:45, whatever it is.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with this. That's why Randy's WWE run is so phenomenal.
ReplyDeleteI don't really see how TNA has any leverage if such negotiations take place. If WWE doesn't want their library, who are they going to sell it to?
ReplyDeleteOr casual fans who are not aware of the structure can say "Man, this sucks tonight, i'll just try again next week".
ReplyDeleteI doubt it I mean for all the TNA bashing if you are trying to draw in more subscribers there is more value in the TNA catalog than say....WCCW
ReplyDeleteYou used to do Boy Scouts? Did you have to register as a sex offender?
ReplyDeleteI think there are justifications both ways, but as Vince says below, if you put crap between 8-9 you may not even get viewers for the rest of the night. Get good ratings the first two hours and weather the storm for hour three.
ReplyDeleteThey haven't been cancelled.... they just don't have a home for their TV show.
ReplyDelete(Still in denial..... )
Would a retrospective of TNA DVD draw anything? I doubt it. Even though they've had some good matches and moments, TNA Wrestling is not a historically relevant wrestling promotion, I'm sorry.
ReplyDeleteEvery time you say these things I imagine you looking around really frantically and breathing heavily.
ReplyDeleteLol, no. I almost got my Eagle, but didn't do the service project.
ReplyDeleteRusso just announced he is done with TNA. That means that a TV deal announcement is imminent. HOORAY!
ReplyDeleteDone until they ink the deal and Dixie brings him back...again.
ReplyDeleteWCW1987?
ReplyDeleteSorry man but even more media outlets are reporting it today...
ReplyDeleteIt's a niche company.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, I hope it is because Brie is awful. But Steph, there's no way she's gonna hang that drop on her own segment
ReplyDeleteI got you, bud!
ReplyDeleteStill not fact.
ReplyDeleteI agree, there's an alpha bitch quality to both Bellas that will forever keep them from being successful faces.
ReplyDeleteYou guys talking about all this tape library buying stuff is hilariously embarrassing.
ReplyDeleteIn all seriousness, I am feeling sorry for you. And not in a mocking way, in a legit "this is a sad human being" way.
ReplyDeleteNo I doubt it. I'd say Vince paying 100 per hour for the library would be fair but if they put that dog shit on the network before weekly pre nitro wcw TV I'll consider canceling my subscription
ReplyDeleteDo you really think it's gonna be that simple? I mean, they specifically told her "DO NOT HIRE RUSSO" and not only did she do that, she did it behind their back and tried to hide it from them. Why would Spike trust that he's gone for go now? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool my twice? Well, I don't think Spike is gonna give them that chance.
ReplyDeleteI actually liked the segment. I started to change the channel during the Rollins/Jericho match but felt a need to tough it out. If anyone needs to take blame for that last hour it's Jericho.
ReplyDeleteThat's nice. I feel sorry for all you guys that believe fake rumors.
ReplyDeleteIt just seems like way to much money for TNA footage. I don't think Vince will pay that price.
ReplyDeleteJames Storm is getting a new TV show, had a meeting with Viacom yesterday.
ReplyDeleteViacom and Dixie have both said that they are still in talks. They have 3 months to reach a deal. Are you guys THAT blinded by WrestleZone's own Mike Killam?
haha, I can picture it.
ReplyDelete-Ok Spike, Russo really IS fired now. For real. (This time, keep quiet vince!)
Especially when it isn't for sale. WWE has their own problems to deal with to start worrying about others.
ReplyDeleteTMZ is almost never wrong about this stuff, that's pretty credible for a wrestling rumor dude
ReplyDeleteWith all of the unused footage they have from their own company alone, I just couldn't see WWE putting TNA on the Network. Unless they think some nostalgic TNA loyalists will plunk down 10 bucks a month to watch an Impact from 2005 at 4am on a Tuesday.
ReplyDeleteThey stole the story word for word from Wrestlezone.
ReplyDeleteWell they'd watch it on demand at their own leisure I think but that's bullshit if they toss that stuff out there before worldwide, power hour or especially wcwsn
ReplyDeleteI keep saying this: if they buy the library for $500,000 (they have about 1,400 hours of programming) they would easily make that back on a complete Kurt Angle retrospective.
ReplyDeleteHell, they could probably run a TNA revival ppv in the iMPACT zone and make the money back with the TNA trademarks.
Was Adam Rose featured in that last hour? They did run a lot of crap between the 1 hour, 30 minute mark and the Jericho match.
ReplyDeleteAnybody care to make a friendly wager with me on the TNA TV situation? If TNA has a TV deal by October, I win. If they don't I lose. We can bet something simple like a month of WWE Network, a pizza, or something like that.
ReplyDeleteA TNA revival pay-per-view? No damn way that makes money.
ReplyDeleteSee if that is their standard tho..then they would offer it. Again I know the TNA hate around here but you can't tell me there is more value in WWC than TNA
ReplyDeleteI am constantly amazed at how people over estimate TNA's worth and value.
ReplyDeleteThey bought the XWF library just so they could throw that Hogan/Hennig match from November 2001 on his Ultimate Anthology DVD.
ReplyDeleteThey'll buy TNA.
I don't remember. I only caught the last 30 minutes or so. That last hour they weren't even trying. I even called the finish to the Jericho match. That's how much they were on auto-pilot.
ReplyDeleteIf this were ten years ago and Vince still had his teeth sharpened, they'd buy the library and make a complete butcher job DVD set of TNA complete with talking heads pointing out when TNA ripped off WWE.
ReplyDeleteHardcore Justice, TNA-style, BABAY!
ReplyDeleteHow many hours does XWF even have?
ReplyDeleteDid you watch the company in 2005/6? People would chant "TNA! TNA!" and actually watch the product. If they promised that core group of guys that made those days work (AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, Team 3D, James Storm & Robert Roode, LAX, Rhyno, Raven, hell even Sting and Angle) it'd draw some buys.
ReplyDeleteTNA wasn't always a shithole of a company, you know.
I just don't think the number of buys for that would = profit. If they threw some other WWE guys on there like Cena, Bryan, etc. then I think it could, but not on its own.
ReplyDeleteI think they did one set of WCW-like Disney tapings.
ReplyDeleteYeah, they haven't really done much to make the Bellas likeable. Having a likeable husband and shouting "BITCH" at the end of every sentence isn't enough.
ReplyDeleteWell they might not buy it tomorrow but A. it's not going anywhere, B. The need stuff to put on the network next year, 5 years, and 10 years from now (their fingers crossed)
ReplyDeleteThere worth as a brand is even lower then it's low value as a company too!
ReplyDeleteROH as an example, they're worth less as a company--but their library would be a much better investment for Vince.
The number of ROH alums in the wwe now is enough to make back the value.
I'd bet that a "rise and fall of ROH" with Punk and Danielson om the front would easily out sell "the rise and fall of TNA"
As it stands...TNA has had close to zero historical Impact
While you may be right, it's kind of sad that your main example comes from 8-9 years ago.
ReplyDeleteI've seen a few prognostications/reports that the announced Network number will be in the neighborhood of 750k.
ReplyDeleteVery true. ROH has lots of footage of future stars on the rise
ReplyDeleteTNA has footage of guys past their primes that WWE didn't want anymore.
And neither will make any measurable difference anyway
ReplyDeleteThis is where my disappointment with TNA comes from. If they'd have committed to Samoa Joe and pushed him as the man in 2006, it would be a different company today. They were always looking for the quick fix and thought it would come from Russo and I alreaddy lived that nightmare with WCW, I wasnt' going to live it again.
ReplyDeleteI would agree that if you are courting core wrestling fans to subscribe to the network an easy one stop one price way to get your hands on everything ROH would be more valuable than TNA
ReplyDeleteTNA problems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WWE problems.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely. Build around Joe, Monty Brown, Styles, Daniels, and you can even add Abyss in there, and they would have had a chance. but nope. They pretty much did the polar opposite and kept living in the past.
ReplyDeleteI think looking at the ratings breakdown we can all agree on one conclusion...
ReplyDelete#CENAWINSLOL = Ratings
But they paid for the WCCW and WWC and other companies..at that price evidently which is my point. I do think it makes a difference for some of us types who have interest in watching that stuff and are annoyed that the WCCW uploads stopped.
ReplyDeleteOne of the biggest pops I've heard for an angle (not a match spot or result) was at WrestleMania VII when Savage finally holds the ropes for Elizabeth after all those years (discounting the time he'd done so for her at the first Main Event). Goosebumps on the goosebumps, there.
ReplyDeleteElvy!
ReplyDeleteCena wasn't featured in hour #2, though.
ReplyDelete"Insider is reporting that 10% of WWE employees are expected to lose their jobs."
ReplyDeletewell I know Brian says Johnny not B Badd and is going to say that "Johnny B . . ." something. I don't know what he says.
ReplyDeleteAll of these images made me laugh. Bravo.
ReplyDelete#CENAWINSLOL NEVER GIVE UP!
ReplyDeleteAlso, let me be clear here: I'm saying if Vince decided to, he could make his half-million back on a TNA ppv and some DVD releases. I'm not saying said TNA ppv would rival WrestleMania numbers.
ReplyDeleteAlthough it occurs to me now that Vince has killed off his own ppv business, so I'm not even sure if he wanted to Vince could get a TNA on traditional ppv.
Still, if he bought the library he'd make the $500K back.
"Parallax is reporting that Insider has no idea WTF they are talking about"
ReplyDeletePeople don't order TNA PPVs *now*. What makes you think they'll order a revival one?
ReplyDeleteBesides a HUGE chunk of TNA's key talent were simply ex-WWE guys like Angle, Jeff Hardy, Christian, Jarrett, Foley, RVD, Bubba Dudley, and R-Truth. It would essentially be like watching a revival of WWE TV from 2002 with AJ Styles and Abyss thrown in.
I don't get the never give up towel...what the hell goes on in his face washing ritual that he needs a motivational slogan to get through it?
ReplyDelete10%? *Ron Simmons Voice*: "DAMN!"
ReplyDeleteAlso...Ron here is your pink slip.
ReplyDeleteI thought we were supposed to ignore the dirtsheets?
ReplyDeleteOr does that only apply to negative TNA press?
Maybe he is a germ-a-phobe?
ReplyDeleteI still hope Brock legit wipes his ass with the towel and shoves it in Cena's mouth million dollar man style.
Layla and Summer in HLA makes you laugh? You are doing it wrong.
ReplyDeleteI think I made it to Star... but god did I hate the whole fucking experience.
ReplyDeleteThat would be an improvement in the neighborhood I was thinking: they started at 660,000, and 400,000 people bought WrestleMania on traditional ppv this year. If they could convert 1/4 of the traditional WrestleMania ppv purchasers into Network subscribers, that's a win... especially considering how shitty the ppvs since WrestleMania have been (maybe not shitty... but definitely unmemorable).
ReplyDeleteIf they can covert 1/2 of the remaining number of people who bought WrestleMania on traditional ppv and not lose any subscribers, they'd be at 900K by the end of the year. A strong Summerslam might help them get the former, and Brock headlining Night of Champions and Hell in the Cell (the thought of Brock/Cena in the Cell makes me a little aroused) might get them the latter.
I'd be game for all that, although the drug addiction should be channeled to Stardust/Goldust. Now IF Stardust/Goldust got Sandow hooked on drugs and he became a third freak or something that'd be hilarious.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it's about what I was expecting (I'm predicting 775k officially). However, with reports that 10% of staff is going to get laid off, that number may be lower. Investors may not like it since that's still only 50% or so toward their goal of 1.5 million to be profitable.
ReplyDeleteThey should do a Slam City episode where Ron Simmons has to get a job as a technician at a DAMN
ReplyDeleteI never thought Cena could look more like a douche....but that fucking towel does it.
ReplyDeleteLet's hope these cuts include Michael Cole, Jerry Lawler, and Kevin Dunn.
ReplyDeleteThe towel is really what puts it over the top to me. Sure he comes out in the available at the WWE store Shirt, available at the WWE store hat, the available at the WWE store Sweat bands, his available at the WWE store sneakers....then he pulls a damn available at the WWE STORE TOWEL OUT FOR NO DAMN REASON before coming to the ring.
ReplyDeleteWhen he came out with it on Monday it just SCREAMED "hey, buy this shitty piece of merchandise too!" That's why I loved Cesaro saying Cena's shoes came from K-Mart. I'm still laughing about that line.
ReplyDeleteAt least DX were being ironic...ish when they would do that
ReplyDeleteYeah. And the company wonders why this guy gets booed. Steve Austin wore different merchandise but didn't make a show of it.
ReplyDeleteI listed a bunch of guys who weren't ex-WWE guys down below, and in their heyday (2005) there WERE TNA fans. If they give the brand a year break and promote it as a true alternative programming (TAG TEAMS! X-DIVSION! KNOCK-OUTS! ULTIMATE X! SIX-SIDED RING!) it might work.
ReplyDeleteI'm not talking about a number that rivals WrestleMania. In the traditional ppv model, you need 28,000 buys to make back the likelly cost of the library to Vince. Give fans a year to forget the bad stuff (Russo) and a slick commercial to hype the good stuff? It would work.
I've said this before, but...you never know when you're gonna need a towel.
ReplyDeleteHe is to the point where a QVC host and a little table should meet him on the entrance ramp to take a couple of calls from buyers before he heads to the ring.
ReplyDeleteYou guys sure aren't ignoring the dirtsheets. Works both ways doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteYou mean a DAM.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he could work at a pharmacy selling dental DAMs.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't be so sure about that.
ReplyDeleteYour premise was flawed at "they should do a Slam City"
ReplyDeleteAnd he could have a best friend who's a beaver that builds DAMS.
ReplyDeleteSlam City is the best two minute show on the Network.
ReplyDeleteThat'd be pretty funny, but only if Austin ever returned and destroyed the table.
ReplyDeleteI find them hilarious, and you can burn through all of them in no time.
ReplyDeleteTNAISDUMBLOL
ReplyDeleteDID YOU KNOW: Slam City is the highest watched under 5 minute programming on WWE Network?
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