I wanted them to be a viable opposition to the WWF for years and for years they have shown glimpses of that. i want the guys to be able to hop over and make more money or get more exposure. its better for the business.
Whether it was a hot angle, or a string of PPVs that make you take notice.
BUT
For every good thing they do, they take about 20 steps back.
For every hot angle they go into, they run it into the ground or deliver the worse payoff imaginable.
For every string of great matches, they do an X dvision escape cage match or a reverse battle royal.
Alot of the guys here talk about wrestling with the same passion you have for movies.
Im not the wordsmith some people are, but when i talk wrestling i speak about it with passion cuz wrestling to me is passionate. Its so different that other sports. Winning and losing doesnt matter. How you win and how you lose matters.
Who vince likes and dislikes and how it translates to their career advancement both intrigues and frustrates me. I love hearing the stories of how Flair will bury TNA only to work for them and say that Dixie is great... only to leave and bury TNA again, showing the hypocrite he is. I love it. It a drama that i cant explain to anyone but other fans who share my passion.
And TNA really for the hogan era fans is the promotion they have seen or heard of... and have seen in its entirety. They saw the weeklys. They saw the FSN show They saw the Spike show They saw PPV. They saw the move to Monday nights. They saw all the failures and successes and probably have shared my same passion in wanting them to succeed... to be a true alternative to Vince. Because its better for wrestling when you have more than one promotion and plus they have seen it grow from the ground up.
So this is jade to me. This is realizing that as their fandom wanes and as they grow older and have kids who will ultimately grow to be wrestling fans and they take them to a show or watch WM 50, they will pull out their dvds/tapes or the network and show their kids that they are watching an inferior product... cuz this wasnt wrestling when we grew up.
I dont think so either about Hardy but you never know with Vince. He is such a carny so i cant put it past him.
Re: TNA interviews
Definitly agree with that. TNA should never be doing WWE in ring 20 minute promos. Its retarded. Im mad that is the norm now. All promos should be in the back with some announcer. The ring promo should be a special case not the norm. Let the ring be action... not a stage for some speech.
I also dug Hardy's scripted promos from Smackdown as well as his scripted promos during his heel turn. The thing about that whole Immortal deal... it should have never been a faction... it should have just been EMO-heel Jeff hardy. I loved everything about it. from his ring work as a heel to his promos to even renaming his finish the TWist of hate. I was a fan.
If he would have gone Raven style without the goons, that shit would have been money. All of his promos would have been post-produced by Bischoff in a NEO-NWO style/emo rock deal. It was money. I liked that they turned him heel. It was a true alternative to what WWE was doing.
Obviously he was drugged the fuck out and self-destructed but to me it had legs.
Wasn't watching TNA during Immortal, but I'm always in favor of wrestling creating characters that are pulled from the cultural zeitgeist. And Jeff Hardy as a loathsome Emo freak is very 2010. And I agree, that character being paired with Hogan, Bischoff, and Jarret makes no sense and kills the character. Hmm...maybe Bischoff is fine--Bischoff as a soulless enabler rings true. Is that what his character was at the time?
My apologies to Archie Stackhouse and Biscuit, who were bumped off the card due to time constraints from the looks of it. Hopefully that'll be for next week.
So I've been watching most of the SNME's that were just recently uploaded to the Network, and I've got to say, Elizabeth was kind of a whore. Hanging out with Hulk Hogan, posing with him, no wonder Savage snapped.
I'm not in BOD Raw? I imagine this is the kind of disappointment that Shane Douglas feels when he shows up at Target and his shift for the day has been cancelled.
I stole the show last night with my Last Man Standing match against the Unstable. I went Solo (eh? eh? eh?) against those three goons and I don't even get booked? I barely broke a sweat! I even kicked the caffeine habit because seriously, screw coffee, I'll take a glass of rum any day. Like a real space pirate!
The way Hardy debuted in TNA stinks of WCW where management probably still saw Jeff as a midcard tag wrestler and not a hot main event act because they refuse to change with the times.
Time for a new challenger to the BoD Writing Championship. I'm the longest reigning champion of all time. Kyle Fitta....Matt Perri....Andy PG...whoever. Even Zanatude. Bring yourselves to the Alps, find my log cabin, stare in the frosty window as I enjoy a bacon sandwich. With my belt lovingly fitted on my fireplace mantle.
Just remember: Never....accept a ride....from a Stranger.
Yeah, I use the apps in the store. I've had to update the Netflix and Pandora ones a couple times. They said that it would be available for smart tvs in the Summer. I think they were waiting for a customer base that would justify the cost of developing the app. I don't think we will get it until after the first round of subscriptions end though.
But the worry is this, during Obama's run he's faced so much unwarented bullshit that the left is over defensive.
And looking for chances to tear down Republicans as vengeance. Political debate seems largely dead in the United States. Replaced by red vs blue mentality better served for Team Fortress 2
But then why not try to bring in a few names for that money that people would WANT to see? I know both Zeke and Gene are probably pretty cheap, but it's still rehashing ECW (and WWECW).
I love ECW like the next person, but it never was THAT successful...
Those programs are commendable though. WWE paid for a TNA contracted worker's rehab, and that made TNA seem pretty petty in my books. Especially when he had been in TNA longer at that point.
It's things like that, Daffney, and Zema Ion that shows gross, gross incompetence at a higher level in that company.
Cannot wait until the first week of August at the NYC taping when TNA tells their talent they they are staying with Spike TV and the news gets reported all over the wrestling news sites.
Then...lots of people on this blog will be disappointed that TNA will be around for a few more years. and THAT will be hilarious to read.
Panda Energy Wrestling is a better name than TNA
ReplyDeleteBecause you should know better than to trust a guy from Hollywoooooooooood. Makes perfect sense.
ReplyDeletethat sounds like a compelling Showtime dramedy.
ReplyDeleteHonesty is the best policy.
ReplyDeleteBut let me tell you, i wanted TNA to succeed.
I wanted them to be a viable opposition to the WWF for years and for years they have shown glimpses of that. i want the guys to be able to hop over and make more money or get more exposure. its better for the business.
Whether it was a hot angle, or a string of PPVs that make you take notice.
BUT
For every good thing they do, they take about 20 steps back.
For every hot angle they go into, they run it into the ground or deliver the worse payoff imaginable.
For every string of great matches, they do an X dvision escape cage match or a reverse battle royal.
Alot of the guys here talk about wrestling with the same passion you have for movies.
Im not the wordsmith some people are, but when i talk wrestling i speak about it with passion cuz wrestling to me is passionate. Its so different that other sports. Winning and losing doesnt matter. How you win and how you lose matters.
Who vince likes and dislikes and how it translates to their career advancement both intrigues and frustrates me. I love hearing the stories of how Flair will bury TNA only to work for them and say that Dixie is great... only to leave and bury TNA again, showing the hypocrite he is. I love it. It a drama that i cant explain to anyone but other fans who share my passion.
And TNA really for the hogan era fans is the promotion they have seen or heard of... and have seen in its entirety. They saw the weeklys. They saw the FSN show They saw the Spike show They saw PPV. They saw the move to Monday nights. They saw all the failures and successes and probably have shared my same passion in wanting them to succeed... to be a true alternative to Vince. Because its better for wrestling when you have more than one promotion and plus they have seen it grow from the ground up.
So this is jade to me. This is realizing that as their fandom wanes and as they grow older and have kids who will ultimately grow to be wrestling fans and they take them to a show or watch WM 50, they will pull out their dvds/tapes or the network and show their kids that they are watching an inferior product... cuz this wasnt wrestling when we grew up.
/rant
RE: crowd sweetener
ReplyDeleteI dont think so either about Hardy but you never know with Vince. He is such a carny so i cant put it past him.
Re: TNA interviews
Definitly agree with that. TNA should never be doing WWE in ring 20 minute promos. Its retarded. Im mad that is the norm now. All promos should be in the back with some announcer. The ring promo should be a special case not the norm. Let the ring be action... not a stage for some speech.
I also dug Hardy's scripted promos from Smackdown as well as his scripted promos during his heel turn. The thing about that whole Immortal deal... it should have never been a faction... it should have just been EMO-heel Jeff hardy. I loved everything about it. from his ring work as a heel to his promos to even renaming his finish the TWist of hate. I was a fan.
If he would have gone Raven style without the goons, that shit would have been money. All of his promos would have been post-produced by Bischoff in a NEO-NWO style/emo rock deal. It was money. I liked that they turned him heel. It was a true alternative to what WWE was doing.
Obviously he was drugged the fuck out and self-destructed but to me it had legs.
I thought Impact Wrestling could have worked. If they NEED initials, just make it Impact Wrestlijg Federation.
ReplyDeleteWasn't watching TNA during Immortal, but I'm always in favor of wrestling creating characters that are pulled from the cultural zeitgeist. And Jeff Hardy as a loathsome Emo freak is very 2010. And I agree, that character being paired with Hogan, Bischoff, and Jarret makes no sense and kills the character. Hmm...maybe Bischoff is fine--Bischoff as a soulless enabler rings true. Is that what his character was at the time?
ReplyDeleteI also have a Vizio. The 70" one. I also have a PS3. But since it's hacked, I can't get online.
ReplyDeleteDammit, a backslide! My one weakness!
ReplyDeleteI'm so happy that Petuka Bazooka is taking off.
ReplyDeletepetuka bazooka
ReplyDeletePetuka Bazooka
PETUKA BAZOOKA
My apologies to Archie Stackhouse and Biscuit, who were bumped off the card due to time constraints from the looks of it. Hopefully that'll be for next week.
ReplyDeleteSo I've been watching most of the SNME's that were just recently uploaded to the Network, and I've got to say, Elizabeth was kind of a whore. Hanging out with Hulk Hogan, posing with him, no wonder Savage snapped.
ReplyDeleteI'm not in BOD Raw? I imagine this is the kind of disappointment that Shane Douglas feels when he shows up at Target and his shift for the day has been cancelled.
ReplyDeleteIts on for next week.
ReplyDeleteYou are on the house show loop against WCW1987 if that counts for anything.
ReplyDeleteIt's going to get him over like the Stunner did for Austin.
ReplyDeleteKeep an eye on this series BTW. I've got some awesome stuff planned for it.
ReplyDeleteWoot Woot!
ReplyDeleteHUSS HUSS booked HUSS HUSS HUSS lost HUSS HUSS opportunity HUSS HUSS HUSS catering HUSS HUSS beat traffic at least HUSS...
ReplyDelete...
...HUSS!
Sweet. I think you should mention that DDP yoga has helped me become a better, more explosive worker.
ReplyDeleteI'm not booked!
ReplyDeleteNeither was Dennis stamp. But now look at him!
ReplyDeleteI'll just be on my trampoline. I don't do tricks. I just jump.
ReplyDelete*on the Bod Raw Backstage Pass*
ReplyDeleteI stole the show last night with my Last Man Standing match against the Unstable. I went Solo (eh? eh? eh?) against those three goons and I don't even get booked? I barely broke a sweat! I even kicked the caffeine habit because seriously, screw coffee, I'll take a glass of rum any day. Like a real space pirate!
.............................................................HUSS!!!!
ReplyDeletehuss?
ReplyDeleteHuss.
ReplyDeleteHuss? Huss Huss! HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSS! Huss? Huss Huss?
ReplyDeleteThe way Hardy debuted in TNA stinks of WCW where management probably still saw Jeff as a midcard tag wrestler and not a hot main event act because they refuse to change with the times.
ReplyDeleteHaha! I didn't even play any entrance music to distract you!
ReplyDelete*silently approaches backstage camera*
ReplyDelete*Kubrick stare into camera*
*wordlessly raises one finger signifying win*
*makes slow throat-slash motion with finger*
*wordlessly walks away*
.
.
.
.
.
*stumbles over cameraman's power cord, plays it cool and strolls off*
Pride comes before the fall, DBSM.
ReplyDeleteAnd you will fall hard.
I will pinfall you hard two more times.
ReplyDeleteDo you understand how the yahoo apps work? Based on how well other parts of the network have rolled out, when do you think we'll get a wwe app? 2016?
ReplyDeleteTime for a new challenger to the BoD Writing Championship. I'm the longest reigning champion of all time. Kyle Fitta....Matt Perri....Andy PG...whoever. Even Zanatude. Bring yourselves to the Alps, find my log cabin, stare in the frosty window as I enjoy a bacon sandwich. With my belt lovingly fitted on my fireplace mantle.
ReplyDeleteJust remember: Never....accept a ride....from a Stranger.
*whooooosh* and I disappear in a mist.
When I'm done with Bret, you and I are gonna go round and round.
ReplyDelete* I move away from the mic to breathe in *
ReplyDeleteYeah, I use the apps in the store. I've had to update the Netflix and Pandora ones a couple times. They said that it would be available for smart tvs in the Summer. I think they were waiting for a customer base that would justify the cost of developing the app. I don't think we will get it until after the first round of subscriptions end though.
ReplyDeletelol. Totes, my friend. Totes.
ReplyDeleteWe will get you that Oscar Mayer sponsorship ASAP
ReplyDeleteBy the away, anyone without a direction or gimmick who wants to be part of BoD RAW, reply here to sign up for a chance to spin the gimmick wheel
ReplyDeleteGotta sell the injury I guess.
ReplyDeleteSome Cesaro style cooling off here, if you ask me
ReplyDeleteYes.
ReplyDeleteWe had a jam-packed show and a last minute booking decision for BoD RAW is Vegas.
Next week is also a big show.
I'll get my yodeling gear.
ReplyDeleteDude, are you coming on to me?!
ReplyDeleteThis isn't Goldust vs Ramon.
You can replace Gosh Hopkins as the rock holder
ReplyDeleteThat match last night really needed an ironic be a star video playing after it.
ReplyDeleteThat will be considered for next week.
ReplyDeleteWhat song?
ReplyDeleteExcellent, excellent. Very well said. Wish I could say it so succinctly, but that's why I'm not Scott Keith.
ReplyDeleteChrist, even WCW gave up on him after 2 chances.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, WCW gave up on life at that point.
ReplyDelete"Frankly, I find the Miz winning a match more offensive than the same old jingoistic booking..."
ReplyDeletehttp://i.imgur.com/I9XiYcT.jpg
"I’m happy going back and watching terrible 1994 episodes of Monday Night RAW because I’m a sadist anyway"
ReplyDeleteTHAT explains it.
She seems dumber than a box of rocks so there is that.
ReplyDeletehttp://37.media.tumblr.com/abafeb57cc3dfdda46d01cd8bea3f08c/tumblr_n7jglyiDSD1r5k1n4o1_400.gif
ReplyDeleteI'm with Jobber.
ReplyDeleteThere isn't a worse promotion name out there right now then TNA
No, wrong. Coke is bland shit.
ReplyDeletePepsi is great
Well I'd think the years of hilarious incompetence justify the hate TNA gets
ReplyDeleteI'm a liberal. It's easy to pile on.
ReplyDeleteBut the worry is this, during Obama's run he's faced so much unwarented bullshit that the left is over defensive.
And looking for chances to tear down Republicans as vengeance. Political debate seems largely dead in the United States. Replaced by red vs blue mentality better served for Team Fortress 2
He probably doesn't. I don't. The world has a lot of real shit to be upset about.
ReplyDeleteBut you make it so much fun to call bullshit when you make posts like this.
You're Worst's escapism at this poimt and you don't even see it. He won't give a damn about you the second he closes his computer
Woah, leave Aries out of the hate on.
ReplyDeleteHe's damn good at what he does
ROH can draw TNA numbers for house shows.
ReplyDeleteGiven how much smaller there distrubution and overhead is--that's insane
Tag team with KUSHIDA in New Japan.
ReplyDeleteSaw him at ROH in Toronto this past May.
He is in fact still great.
There roster is between the greatmess they used to have and the gapimg holes they had when everyone left.
ReplyDeleteStable for exactly where they are but Cole and Elgin alone aren't going to bring them all the way to the top
"We already know what the audience for freaks like me is"
ReplyDelete"FINALLY he admits that's what he is!" - Dave Scherer
loldirtsheetz
ReplyDeleteYeah, because they would just HAVE to run those on Thurs. night taking a spot away from their 2nd highest rated show.
ReplyDeletePlease start a TV Network so I can watch you go broke almost immediately.
Sincerely,
ReplyDeleteTNA Apologist
They had to pay Russo dammit! How could they afford Zema Ion's bills?!
ReplyDeleteIf you picture your avatars having this battle, it's even 10x better!
ReplyDeleteSWERVE~!
ReplyDeleteActually, 1.5 subs (assuming they last a year) would generate $180 million.
ReplyDeleteRemember when TNA brought Lashley in last time and the first crud spewed forth from his mouth was he wanted to fight Brock in the UFC... bravo...
ReplyDeleteIf we got a Hogan promo in the arena we were spoiled!
ReplyDeleteBut then why not try to bring in a few names for that money that people would WANT to see? I know both Zeke and Gene are probably pretty cheap, but it's still rehashing ECW (and WWECW).
ReplyDeleteI love ECW like the next person, but it never was THAT successful...
Those programs are commendable though. WWE paid for a TNA contracted worker's rehab, and that made TNA seem pretty petty in my books. Especially when he had been in TNA longer at that point.
ReplyDeleteIt's things like that, Daffney, and Zema Ion that shows gross, gross incompetence at a higher level in that company.
It's more of a generic store brand really.
ReplyDeleteWe'll finally get the Wrestling Retribution project from Katz?!
ReplyDeleteShut up, Slapnutz!
ReplyDelete(man that was such a stupid term)
Didn't Russo actually name the company?
ReplyDeletePEW! PEW! PEW!
ReplyDeleteYep, bring him in for the first big Impact and have him debut after a horrendous cage match.
ReplyDeleteThis man should have been in the main event that night... but we needed Hulk and his Stooges.
Live via satellite?
ReplyDeleteor not...
Sincerely,
ReplyDeleteIdiot who has no idea how anything works.
ECW alumni fighting 06-07 era WWE rejects is the most uniquely TNA storyline i can think of.
ReplyDeleteCannot wait until the first week of August at the NYC taping when TNA tells their talent they they are staying with Spike TV and the news gets reported all over the wrestling news sites.
ReplyDeleteThen...lots of people on this blog will be disappointed that TNA will be around for a few more years. and THAT will be hilarious to read.
12 years and counting guys...