I don't remember these two teams having very many televised matches, which surprises me because if I were booking they would have had a never-ending feud in 1990. Enjoy.
Any real wrestling fan knows about that one episode of Monday Night Raw where Bret made lemonade for Ahmed Johnson and Marc Mero and they discussed Johnny Mnemonic. Troll.
I think everyone playing this straight is what makes it awesome. Neither can act but it's not stopping them from going all-out. Also, they more than make up for it with the slapfests.
HH90 had a LOT of tag team matches, and they looked like good ones - MX/RnR, Doom/Horsemen, Steiners/Nasties, shoot even the Southern Boys/Master Blasters match looked somewhat interesting because, well, why not? I'm sure it sucked, but let's throw it in anyway.
I think #1 is the only thing that draws real interest. It'd be such a sharp difference from WWE TV, and so in line with what a lot of casuals saw as the "golden age" of wrestling, that it'd hook lots of lapsed fans possibly.
Very very few people give half of the tiniest shit about DGUSA or ROH, and those people are already subscribed to the Network for the archives. NXT is already a well produced indie wrestling show.
The 30 for 30 stuff would be cool, but WWE already has done some good in-house stuff like the Warrior and Bryan docs, and while it makes for good programming it's all just filler. But it'd be cool to watch for those alreday subscribed.
Raw available on teh Network? Eh, there's already DVR annnd they put the big segments on their Youtube the next day anyway. Not a big draw.
Battleground 2013 followed by the complete first season of The Single Guy? Now that's Must See TV!
Jeff Hardy. First WWF match I ever saw was the 99 No Mercy ladder match. As an 11 year old who loved jumping off high things I was instantly hooked and Jeff was that reason. Followed him ever since no matter where he's at.
It'd be an interesting move if after TNA goes out of business ina few months (FINALLY), that not Vince but ROH buys up the tape library. Maybe they could then start some $3-$5 a month online service with the archives and then some occasional IPPVs.
Shawn Michaels. I was especially drawn to Shawn post comeback. He was still the best guy in the company despite breaking his back and having a horrible drug problem. No matter who he was paired with, you could expect a great match. That goes for his whole career. If it wasn't for HBK, I probably wouldn't have given wrestling a second chance when I started following wrestling again in 06-07. I can say with pride that I cried when he lost his match to the Undertaker at WrestleMania 26. His match with Undertaker at WrestleMania 25 is still, in my opinion, the greatest wrestling match I've ever seen. I had a bunch of buddies over to watch at my College house and served as the designated driver for the evening. Despite this, I blacked out after that match. I remember having a smoke after the match and don't remember anything after that Mania until I drove my friends home to their houses/dorms.
It's kind of amazing how hard this question has become to answer. Chris Benoit was once my easy answer. Ric Flair is probably still top of my list. Hulk Hogan got me into the whole thing, but I soured on him in his later years.
Yeah, I hate the way listening to director's commentaries stopped me being able to enjoy movies now I know it's all cameras, clapperboards and green screen...
... No wait that didn't happen.
Pull back the curtain as much as you like, we'll all still gladly suspend disbelief like we do for the movies
The fundamental problem is that nobody wants to see Stephanie McMahon in a main event angle. It's been done! To death! It wasn't fun 15 years ago and it isn't fun now, especially when her foil is someone everybody hates!
Kurt Angle 1999-2001. Extremely entertaining heel character that really fit into what I enjoy. Rapidly improving worker rising through the ranks. Very handsome young man. He had it all. And then he went bald and ugly and crazy and I feel depressed every time I see him for a decade now because he's probably going to die in a horrible fashion. But, that's wrestling.
I think a top 5 is more honest. I say Bret but if i'm picking between watching a Bret, Rock, Flair, Savage or Angle match ....it really comes down to mood.
wwe releases a whole bunch of development people i've never heard of (except for kristofferson_
WWE Releases Five Developmental Talents
Posted by Larry Csonka on 08.01.2014
Click to see who they are…
Pwinsider.com reports that WWE has released five WWE developmental talents. The talents released were Garett Dylan (Jody Kristofferson), Travis Tyler (Sam Udell), Slate Randall, Mac Miles and Dani Jax.
WWE announced yesterday that they were cutting 7% of their employees, and wrestlers cuts were also expected following yesterday's Q2 financials report.
If I was older than 30, Flair would almost certainly be my favorite. But, I grew up with him being the saggy tits guy that WCW always wanted to push aside.
Watched it a million times and it still gives me goosebumps. Such an amazing, emotional moment...flushed down the toilet weeks later when all of it was dropped.
As a fan, I've never had that sort of "electrified" feeling from wrestling, like I did for the Horsemen reunion and Flair's return. I was 15 then, too!
Gotta go with Bret myself, although Stone Cold is a *very* close 2nd. Probably the most overall fun I had as a fan was the Attitude era with guys like Austin, DX, The Rock, Mankind, etc, but when it all boils down to the one guy I most associate with growing up with wrestling and have the fondest memories of, it's Bret.
The first live show I ever went to featured Bret vs. Owen. I was a young mega-fan during his 1994 WWF Championship reign. I started ordering PPVs as a kid during his main event run. He participated in two of my favorite matches of all time (WM13 with Austin and SS91 with Perfect). I've met him at a book signing and he was about as personable and professional a guy could be. He was likely the hardest worker the company ever had. All jokes aside (many of which are probably warranted), he wrote my favorite book pertaining to pro wrestling, and I've read it about 3 or 4 times. He uses my favorite submission move ever...
Steiners vs. Nasty Boys is just an awesome, violent match. Well worth checking out. The Midnight Express were also in a serious groove in their match against Ricky Morton and Tommy Rich.
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper. A lot of personal reasons actually, I was an abused kid, and as a result of that abuse, I was a very quiet kid. Piper was the attitude I wished I could project. He was cool, cocky, and full of piss and vinegar. He talked loudly and then backed it up when he wanted to. Don't get me wrong I was a Hulkamaniac, and a huge fan of the Junkyard Dog, but Roddy will always be number one because he was who I wished I was at that age, I kinda lived vicariously through him and his character got me through a lot of stuff.
Foley. Could work a good-to-great match with nearly anyone, cut absolutely my favorite promos of anyone, was the best ever in the commissioner role, and I think at least through his initial retirement he had one of the deepest on-screen characters in history.
Ricky Steamboat. A brilliant worker, great arm drags and leaps, a babyface his entire career and more importantly, one of the absolute greatest sellers ever. When Steamboat took a hit, he made you feel it with staggering, blowing out cheeks and such, sucked you in totally and you had to cheer him on. A true professional with so many classic battles, I can never not be entertained by him.
You what that sadly made me remember? The segment where those reactions of Vince came from... I shit you not, they did a segment on Smackdown where Vince interviewed a bunch of secretaries before settled on Stacy doing the striptease that garnered those reactions.
Ric Flair (as a heel) - The greatest wrestler of all time, the total package. He made everyone around him look like a million dollars. Great look with the robes, suits, color combos, blond hair, etc. Fantastic bumper, Flair was never afraid to make someone look good. Just the best on the mic. Flair was able to have 4 star match into his 50's in WWE. The greatest of all time, period.
Just went to WWE.com to check the NXT roster and counted 45 names. Now that includes William Regal,JBL,Jason Albert & Renee Young but that seems like a pretty big roster for a one hour weekly show.
Especially since they keep throwing in so many main roster guys onto the show for reasons unknown.
Brie is likeable? Not to me. In real life, sure, but when she screams/talks on screen it's like nails on a damn chalkboard. I specifically remember her nearly ruining AJ's pipebomb promo last year by screaming over the top of it.
Bret The HItman Hart. Total mark, had the pink shades, cried when they lost to the Nasties at WM7, attended and enjoyed King of the Ring '95, was an honorary Canadian in 1997, lost ten bucks betting on him in the Survivor Series '97, marked out like a 12-year-old when he returned in 2010, spent two hours yesterday watching him do a 1992 Timeline shoot, would eagerly watch him do two-hour shoots on any years from 1994-2000
Maybe the Network problems are partially due to marketing so much to kids? My parents were cool with me watching wrestling when I was a kid, they'd spring for pay per views every other month, but I doubt they'd be setting me up with 24/7 wrestling as a kid.
1. Hulk Hogan- as a kid, he was my guy, and he's still my all time favorite. 1A. Ric Flair- his promos, in ring work, and character. Just amazing. He's right up there with Hogan for me.
I have lots of other wrestlers I really like, but those 2 are my favorites for sure.
No way my parents ever would've gotten the Network for me. It was hard enough to get a WWF Magazine subscription out of them every year and that was only $20! They never ordered any pay-per-views either, but a few times I was able to go to a friend's house who did order them.
"The Macho Man" Randy Savage- he was easily my favourite when I was a kid, and it's a great thing to look back and realize that he was EVEN BETTER than I'd thought. One of the best carry-artists of all time, and excelling at both promos and in-ring stuff on a level nobody else could match.
Even if it is only $10 a month, and you save money by getting the pay per views for "free", it's still a monthly expense on wrestling and I can see a lot of parents not getting it, either because times are tough and wrestling isn't a priority, or because they don't want their kids watching wrestling all day and night.
"The only thing that's real is me, and the fact that day in and day out, for almost six years, I've proved to everybody in the world that I'm the best on this microphone, in that ring, even at commentary! Nobody can touch me!"
He is the reason I got back into wrestling, and I don't think I've ever felt as defeated and empty as a fan when Rock took the title off him.
I still don't think he came out and said he hated BNB though. He was basically just recounting what happened IIRC. Like there was some heat b/t Cuban and BNB due to their wives or something (it's been a while since I've read Bret's book, I have too many tears in my eyes to read it frequently) but it didn't seem like Bret was cross at BNB or anything.
Yeah I don't see it either. I grew up on JCP and a heel like BNB probably wouldn't have gotten over. He might've done some business with Sting or a face Luger for a bit but without being able to bring it night in and night out in the ring, I don't see him being a long-term main event heel in JCP.
It's a dead even tie between Randy Savage and Bret Hart. When I started watching in '92, Randy Savage made me a fan, but Bret Hart made sure I stayed a fan.
I think the Midnights we're being de-pushed at this point and on their way out but somebody had a brain and put these two teams together. Probably wasn't the same brain that came up with the Black Scorpion storyline. Which would have worked if they had planned for an actual payoff and didn't use stupid magic tricks and illusions.
Hacksaw Butch Reed....without question. You gotta remember: a) I'm black and b) I'm from the South, which pretty much was Mid-South country. All my friends liked Junkyard Dog, but I always dug the heels. Reed was the first black heel that I saw that could be this big badass football-player type, instead of being made to look like a buffoon...which also made his babyface run awesome.it doesnt hurt that he kinda favored my dad also, and he always threated to put soup bones on somebody's head. I'm referring to the Mid-South ass-kicking Butch Reed, not the ridiculous blond haired Natural Butch Reed he became in the WWF.
I want to see the numbers next month after the initial reup. If the numbers still stink I think they should try putting up a ton of older content and advertising that fact. It might not work, but obviously holding back the older content hasn't worked either. I'm interested to see if people really do buy into the theory that if they reup WWE will reward them with more stuff or if there are some getting irritated about hoping for new content rather than having a bunch of content they KNOW they want to watch for 6 more months.
well with all the people cutting cable Netflix might not have programming available forever. At a certain point someone has to pay for content and if less and less is being paid for to be run on cable, then more and more has to be made directly for Netflix or other streaming service (like Orange is the new Black and House of Cards). As that happens, prices for Netflix WILL go up.
The problem as I see it is the number of people who will watch the archive is very low. See the top 10 shows every week. Granted we don't know how that list is put together, but it's all we got. They can see what everyone watches and for how long.
The demand for archived content is low. That is coming from a guy who would love to watch 80s and 90 WCW Worldwide all day. Classics on demand had like 180,000 subscribers. If they want to grow the network, they need to put out a wrestling product people will pay continually for, or they need popular original programing. I really think making Total Divas a netwrok exclusive, and make it known as such, would attract new subscribers. Give Stephanie a show so you don't lose rights fees from E!.
They can see what everyone watches and for how long. People are watching it, even if your not. Reality is relatively cheap to make. That is why they do the market research for it.
My number 1 (MX) and number 2 (Steiners) favorite tag teams. Never knew they wrestled.
ReplyDeleteI wanted to see the HBK/Bret Hart Ironman match montage.
ReplyDeleteOr at least the HHH WrestleMania training montages.
Any real wrestling fan knows about that one episode of Monday Night Raw where Bret made lemonade for Ahmed Johnson and Marc Mero and they discussed Johnny Mnemonic. Troll.
ReplyDeleteeither flair of gino hernandez
ReplyDeleteI think everyone playing this straight is what makes it awesome. Neither can act but it's not stopping them from going all-out. Also, they more than make up for it with the slapfests.
ReplyDeleteHH90 had a LOT of tag team matches, and they looked like good ones - MX/RnR, Doom/Horsemen, Steiners/Nasties, shoot even the Southern Boys/Master Blasters match looked somewhat interesting because, well, why not? I'm sure it sucked, but let's throw it in anyway.
ReplyDeleteI think I'm gonna check it out...
Actually, come to think of it there WAS that episode where Bret reunited his family. His brother even cried.
ReplyDeleteI think #1 is the only thing that draws real interest. It'd be such a sharp difference from WWE TV, and so in line with what a lot of casuals saw as the "golden age" of wrestling, that it'd hook lots of lapsed fans possibly.
ReplyDeleteVery very few people give half of the tiniest shit about DGUSA or ROH, and those people are already subscribed to the Network for the archives. NXT is already a well produced indie wrestling show.
The 30 for 30 stuff would be cool, but WWE already has done some good in-house stuff like the Warrior and Bryan docs, and while it makes for good programming it's all just filler. But it'd be cool to watch for those alreday subscribed.
Raw available on teh Network? Eh, there's already DVR annnd they put the big segments on their Youtube the next day anyway. Not a big draw.
Battleground 2013 followed by the complete first season of The Single Guy? Now that's Must See TV!
Only if it a Samoa Joe/Kobashi slapfest will I care.
ReplyDeleteWhy would his ass be bleeding and touching a baby at the same time? Come to think of it, why would his bare ass be anywhere near a baby?
ReplyDeleteIt was also the swan song of the Minnesota Wrecking Crew. Just a good year for tag team action.
ReplyDelete*re-opens thread*
ReplyDeleteWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
/thread
awwww
ReplyDeleteWhen you drag Shane McMahon to ****+ (KoTR '01) You are pretty damn good
ReplyDeleteIT'S TRUE! IT'S TRUE!
Jeff Hardy. First WWF match I ever saw was the 99 No Mercy ladder match. As an 11 year old who loved jumping off high things I was instantly hooked and Jeff was that reason. Followed him ever since no matter where he's at.
ReplyDeleteI don't want to judge you guys but the lack of Paul Roma discussion is very concerning.
ReplyDeleteOoh, can we all have opinions then?
ReplyDeleteYou're a piece of shit. There's mine for this post.
Because he isn't our favorite?
ReplyDeleteIt'd be an interesting move if after TNA goes out of business ina few months (FINALLY), that not Vince but ROH buys up the tape library. Maybe they could then start some $3-$5 a month online service with the archives and then some occasional IPPVs.
ReplyDeleteThe job guy from WWF?
ReplyDeleteAHHHHHHH, gotcha. I remember that. Never mind.
ReplyDeleteWhoa!
ReplyDeleteBecause, people really really bought into "Outbreak"
ReplyDeleteIf I can be serious for a moment, Lance Storm would disagree.
ReplyDeleteNice televised match. No resting. Lots of double teams. Couple false finishes. It's about ***1/2 - ***3/4 to me.
ReplyDeleteRecap needed more Matt insight. Maybe he could just write the whole thing.
ReplyDeleteShawn Michaels.
ReplyDeleteI was especially drawn to Shawn post comeback. He was still the best guy in the company despite breaking his back and having a horrible drug problem. No matter who he was paired with, you could expect a great match. That goes for his whole career. If it wasn't for HBK, I probably wouldn't have given wrestling a second chance when I started following wrestling again in 06-07. I can say with pride that I cried when he lost his match to the Undertaker at WrestleMania 26.
His match with Undertaker at WrestleMania 25 is still, in my opinion, the greatest wrestling match I've ever seen. I had a bunch of buddies over to watch at my College house and served as the designated driver for the evening. Despite this, I blacked out after that match. I remember having a smoke after the match and don't remember anything after that Mania until I drove my friends home to their houses/dorms.
Shawn Michaels was always my favourite. Even when I was a kid and he was a heel. He wore leather jackets and sunglasses, I thought he was cool.
ReplyDeleteno sir...no not the "job guy from WWF" the Four Horseman member! The Glory of Power and Glory....THAT Paul Roma
ReplyDeleteHe had a pretty good dropkick, and the Power & Glory finisher was kind of cool.
ReplyDeleteI feel old. When I was watching that Michaels-Cena match I was on beer number 15 because college.
ReplyDeleteBig Dave was faaaaaaaaar better than I expected him to be. Drax was written as a naive meathead, which fit him perfectly.
ReplyDeleteIs there more of a damning indicator of how bad the current product is when they're LOSING subs since the last quarter?
ReplyDeleteThey've offered no reason to give a shit, between the MITB foregone conclusion main event and the filler that was Battleground.
ReplyDeleteIt's kind of amazing how hard this question has become to answer. Chris Benoit was once my easy answer. Ric Flair is probably still top of my list. Hulk Hogan got me into the whole thing, but I soured on him in his later years.
ReplyDelete"Personal Issues" is pretty much always drugs. Still, that's one less top US player on the Ryder Cup squad...
ReplyDeleteYeah, I hate the way listening to director's commentaries stopped me being able to enjoy movies now I know it's all cameras, clapperboards and green screen...
ReplyDelete... No wait that didn't happen.
Pull back the curtain as much as you like, we'll all still gladly suspend disbelief like we do for the movies
Macho Man. Because he's the fucking Macho Man.
ReplyDeleteThe fundamental problem is that nobody wants to see Stephanie McMahon in a main event angle. It's been done! To death! It wasn't fun 15 years ago and it isn't fun now, especially when her foil is someone everybody hates!
ReplyDeleteDeep down he probably is though.
ReplyDeleteThat finisher should be brought back. Well, so should tag team wrestling, but that's another topic
ReplyDeleteThis is the correct answer to the question.
ReplyDeleteHe's far from it.
ReplyDeleteThere it is.
ReplyDeleteThat's going to get you a lot of heat round these parts. I seem to always get scorned for mentioning how much I love Jericho.
ReplyDeleteKurt Angle 1999-2001. Extremely entertaining heel character that really fit into what I enjoy. Rapidly improving worker rising through the ranks. Very handsome young man. He had it all. And then he went bald and ugly and crazy and I feel depressed every time I see him for a decade now because he's probably going to die in a horrible fashion. But, that's wrestling.
ReplyDelete1: My apologies, I seriously thought you were getting pranked somehow.
ReplyDelete2: Belated Happy Birthday.
It was REAL!
ReplyDeleteI think a top 5 is more honest. I say Bret but if i'm picking between watching a Bret, Rock, Flair, Savage or Angle match ....it really comes down to mood.
ReplyDeleteStone Cold. As a 16 year old, his anti-authority attitude appealed to me.
ReplyDeleteSame here.
ReplyDeleteNo shit. Leelee above slightly cheats by using a short timeframe, but I'd have to do the same to give any sort of an honest answer.
ReplyDeleteOh, who am I kidding. . .
ReplyDelete"MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN BYGOD.....GENE! "
wwe releases a whole bunch of development people i've never heard of (except for kristofferson_
ReplyDeleteWWE Releases Five Developmental Talents
Posted by Larry Csonka on 08.01.2014
Click to see who they are…
Pwinsider.com reports that WWE has released five WWE developmental talents. The
talents released were Garett Dylan (Jody Kristofferson), Travis Tyler (Sam Udell), Slate Randall, Mac Miles and Dani Jax.
WWE announced yesterday that they were cutting 7% of their employees, and wrestlers cuts were also expected following yesterday's Q2 financials report.
Yeah, Eddie was one of my favorites as well. Another tough one
ReplyDeleteIf I was older than 30, Flair would almost certainly be my favorite. But, I grew up with him being the saggy tits guy that WCW always wanted to push aside.
ReplyDeleteWell, at least they didn't release anyone people cared about.
ReplyDeleteyoung bucks tease that they're wwe-bound
ReplyDeletei just can't see it. if people think that dbry is too small, there's no way anyone will accept the bucks
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/330713/Nick-Jackson-of-The-Young-Bucks-Teases-The-Tag-Team-May-Be-WWE-Bound.htm
Phones are so 10 years ago.
ReplyDeletedisqus is acting up. i'm not getting the real time notification on here
ReplyDeletePaging ilovecmpunk.....
ReplyDeleteWatched it a million times and it still gives me goosebumps. Such an amazing, emotional moment...flushed down the toilet weeks later when all of it was dropped.
ReplyDeleteNow I'm pissed.
Happy belated. My birthday is Sunday.
ReplyDeletethanks! all the cool kids have a b'day from this past sunday to this coming sunday
ReplyDeleteIt has been down on several occasions.
ReplyDeleteAnd happy belated to you as well
ReplyDeleteAnd so does Abeyance!
ReplyDeleteYeah, it seems like a nice little wave.
ReplyDeleteAs a fan, I've never had that sort of "electrified" feeling from wrestling, like I did for the Horsemen reunion and Flair's return. I was 15 then, too!
ReplyDeleteMeh I am an attention whore, if it would let me randomly change my birthday when I have a bad day just to get some attention I would.
ReplyDeletemakes me think of that episode of george lopez where max fakes his b'day
ReplyDeleteBy the way, as long as there's no Black Scorpion or magic tricks involved, feel free to rebook WCW 1990.
ReplyDeleteAngel from Da Baldies
ReplyDeleteGotta go with Bret myself, although Stone Cold is a *very* close 2nd. Probably the most overall fun I had as a fan was the Attitude era with guys like Austin, DX, The Rock, Mankind, etc, but when it all boils down to the one guy I most associate with growing up with wrestling and have the fondest memories of, it's Bret.
ReplyDeleteThe first live show I ever went to featured Bret vs. Owen. I was a young mega-fan during his 1994 WWF Championship reign. I started ordering PPVs as a kid during his main event run. He participated in two of my favorite matches of all time (WM13 with Austin and SS91 with Perfect). I've met him at a book signing and he was about as personable and professional a guy could be. He was likely the hardest worker the company ever had. All jokes aside (many of which are probably warranted), he wrote my favorite book pertaining to pro wrestling, and I've read it about 3 or 4 times. He uses my favorite submission move ever...
Yeah, Bret.
I love Owen Hart too, but everyone has their favorite.
ReplyDeleteBest moment (if I HAD to pick one): "YOU...ARE...A NO GOOD...SONOFABITCH." (Crowd goes apeshit)
ReplyDeleteSteiners vs. Nasty Boys is just an awesome, violent match. Well worth checking out. The Midnight Express were also in a serious groove in their match against Ricky Morton and Tommy Rich.
ReplyDeleteBecause he was asking our favorite, not who you consider the best. Rarely the same.
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling Brie Mode could be a meme.
ReplyDelete"Rowdy" Roddy Piper. A lot of personal reasons actually, I was an abused kid, and as a result of that abuse, I was a very quiet kid. Piper was the attitude I wished I could project. He was cool, cocky, and full of piss and vinegar. He talked loudly and then backed it up when he wanted to. Don't get me wrong I was a Hulkamaniac, and a huge fan of the Junkyard Dog, but Roddy will always be number one because he was who I wished I was at that age, I kinda lived vicariously through him and his character got me through a lot of stuff.
ReplyDeleteThis thread has made me realize that my whole life would be different if Cartoon Express had been on TBS.
ReplyDeleteI might enjoy that.
ReplyDeleteAh man, Mac Miles did such a great job just standing on the apron watching his partner get killed on NXT last night. Leave the memories alone.
ReplyDeleteWWE needs Shane McMahon to save the Network.
ReplyDeleteFoley. Could work a good-to-great match with nearly anyone, cut absolutely my favorite promos of anyone, was the best ever in the commissioner role, and I think at least through his initial retirement he had one of the deepest on-screen characters in history.
ReplyDeleteRicky Steamboat. A brilliant worker, great arm drags and leaps, a babyface his entire career and more importantly, one of the absolute greatest sellers ever. When Steamboat took a hit, he made you feel it with staggering, blowing out cheeks and such, sucked you in totally and you had to cheer him on. A true professional with so many classic battles, I can never not be entertained by him.
ReplyDeleteBOOOOOOOOO!
ReplyDeleteAnd they bleeped it! It was great TV.
ReplyDeleteSorry gonna re-hash...
But Sting should have led the charge... then Luger and the Steiners and DDP...
THe reformation of the Four Horsemen should have been the nail that killed the NWO for good.
WWE just cut five NXT talents:
ReplyDeleteGarrett Dylan
Travis Tyler
Slate Randall
Dani Jackson
Mac Miles
Buck Nasty is about to complian. I bet he is "Other person typing"
ReplyDeleteThey would have all gotten buried by John Cena within the next 5 years anyway.
ReplyDeleteGetting buried by John Cena is a push!
ReplyDeleteWho cares, I'm a Jericholic too.
ReplyDeleteDidn't even realize he posted his below.
ReplyDeleteI AM THE BoD NEWZ MAN
Which is why you own 2 homes
ReplyDeleteCena should totally job 100% clean to every new guy! That way, it will create a new attitude eraz!
ReplyDeleteYou what that sadly made me remember? The segment where those reactions of Vince came from... I shit you not, they did a segment on Smackdown where Vince interviewed a bunch of secretaries before settled on Stacy doing the striptease that garnered those reactions.
ReplyDeleteAnd they wonder why ratings went to shit.
You should recap with us. :D!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteRic Flair (as a heel) - The greatest wrestler of all time, the total package. He made everyone around him look like a million dollars. Great look with the robes, suits, color combos, blond hair, etc. Fantastic bumper, Flair was never afraid to make someone look good. Just the best on the mic. Flair was able to have 4 star match into his 50's in WWE. The greatest of all time, period.
ReplyDeleteI love that the episode was supposed to be Nattie-centric -- and the Bellas just force their way in.
ReplyDeleteI don't think anyone here thinks that way. I do however think they should avoid bringing in new guys and jobbing them to Alberto Del Rio.
ReplyDeleteI would check it out during Nitro commercial breaks.
ReplyDelete(Matt: By the way, why is there a stripper pole in the shower?)
ReplyDelete(Andy: Because Vegas.)
Just went to WWE.com to check the NXT roster and counted 45 names. Now that includes William Regal,JBL,Jason Albert & Renee Young but that seems like a pretty big roster for a one hour weekly show.
ReplyDeleteEspecially since they keep throwing in so many main roster guys onto the show for reasons unknown.
That was Danielle's exact response, too.
ReplyDeleteStephanie is doing well. Brie is awful.
ReplyDeleteIt was absolutely built as the main angle of Raw. No question. You are right.
ReplyDeleteI have a friend who's a casual fan. He's 26-27 or so and knows Ric Flair as the guy who elbowdrops jackets. I prefer this Ric Flair.
ReplyDeleteTHIS.
ReplyDeleteFIRE ME! IM ALREADY FIRED!
ReplyDeleteIt used to be Chris Benoit, but, y'know...
ReplyDeleteBrie is likeable? Not to me. In real life, sure, but when she screams/talks on screen it's like nails on a damn chalkboard. I specifically remember her nearly ruining AJ's pipebomb promo last year by screaming over the top of it.
ReplyDeleteThe crowd popped for Stephanie at the end of Raw.
ReplyDeleteLove em both, despite Steph's weird 2003 hair.
ReplyDeleteI might openly weep if Stephanie got rid of the implants.
ReplyDeleteEveryone cried watching that HART-warming television.
ReplyDeleteAnd I can afford a third easily
ReplyDeleteKings of Harts era Owen Hart. Great worker, great character and I was so happy to see him as a headliner. RIP.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure about a dozen people have said this by now, but Hillbilly Jim.
ReplyDeleteNOW TGGI.
ReplyDeleteOr LOLCats....it's a toss up.
ReplyDeleteWell that throws a bunch of names back into the generator. Looking forward to the debuts of Garrett Tyler, Slate Dylan, and Mac Randall!
ReplyDeleteZack Ryder has a cup named after him?
ReplyDeleteI figured it will be her usual bell bottoms and T-shirt.
ReplyDeleteIf this were a mid-card angle I would agree with you, but this at the very least be a co-main event.
ReplyDeleteThe two greatest tag-teams of all time. I approve.
ReplyDeleteI love Bryan, but he's the last person who should become a promo coach.
ReplyDeleteLove that match. The stiffness was off the charts
ReplyDeleteTJ: Yes, Guardians of the Galaxy is as good as you think it is. As much as I loved Drax, I think Groot made the movie for me.
ReplyDeleteI dug his run up the turnbuckle spot he did. Always crisp
ReplyDeleteNo, but people being morons is what is keeping more people from subscribing.
ReplyDeleteLOL! OMG! XD
ReplyDeleteU guys are crazy!
Bret The HItman Hart. Total mark, had the pink shades, cried when they lost to the Nasties at WM7, attended and enjoyed King of the Ring '95, was an honorary Canadian in 1997, lost ten bucks betting on him in the Survivor Series '97, marked out like a 12-year-old when he returned in 2010, spent two hours yesterday watching him do a 1992 Timeline shoot, would eagerly watch him do two-hour shoots on any years from 1994-2000
ReplyDeleteGreat find, why isn't THIS stuff on the network?
ReplyDeleteLove that stiff ass match
ReplyDeleteZOMG!!! You didn't hurt yourself, did you?
ReplyDelete...and the announcers talking about it almost every segment.
ReplyDeleteLawler: "YOU CAN'T TELL THEM APART, REF? LOOK AT THE SIZE DIFFERENCE OF THEIR PUPPIES!!!"
ReplyDeleteWho wants to watch garbage like this when we could be watching Legends House!
ReplyDeletePlease tell me you saw the post-credits scene.
ReplyDeleteScott and Bobby's mullets are spectacular.
ReplyDeleteI'm older than Justin Gabriel and i'd have no problem getting with a 19 year old. Just sayin.
ReplyDelete"I'll HAVE a salad and a GLASS of water."
ReplyDelete#REKT
ReplyDeleteNot only that, he was banging other golfer's wives.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the Network problems are partially due to marketing so much to kids? My parents were cool with me watching wrestling when I was a kid, they'd spring for pay per views every other month, but I doubt they'd be setting me up with 24/7 wrestling as a kid.
ReplyDelete1. Hulk Hogan- as a kid, he was my guy, and he's still my all time favorite.
ReplyDelete1A. Ric Flair- his promos, in ring work, and character. Just amazing. He's right up there with Hogan for me.
I have lots of other wrestlers I really like, but those 2 are my favorites for sure.
No way my parents ever would've gotten the Network for me. It was hard enough to get a WWF Magazine subscription out of them every year and that was only $20! They never ordered any pay-per-views either, but a few times I was able to go to a friend's house who did order them.
ReplyDeleteI hear ya', brother...it's just that the dude coulda had any woman and he chose to pluck JoJo. I'm just not gettin' it.
ReplyDeleteYou're a wild man.
ReplyDeleteOh...a Helen Keller reference
ReplyDeleteI simply can't watch anymore Nasty Boys or Harlem Heat matches. I feel like I have seen 5 lifetimes full of their matches.
ReplyDelete"The Macho Man" Randy Savage- he was easily my favourite when I was a kid, and it's a great thing to look back and realize that he was EVEN BETTER than I'd thought. One of the best carry-artists of all time, and excelling at both promos and in-ring stuff on a level nobody else could match.
ReplyDeleteEven if it is only $10 a month, and you save money by getting the pay per views for "free", it's still a monthly expense on wrestling and I can see a lot of parents not getting it, either because times are tough and wrestling isn't a priority, or because they don't want their kids watching wrestling all day and night.
ReplyDeletePunk.
ReplyDelete"The only thing that's real is me, and the fact that day in and day out, for almost six years, I've proved to everybody in the world that I'm the best on this microphone, in that ring, even at commentary! Nobody can touch me!"
He is the reason I got back into wrestling, and I don't think I've ever felt as defeated and empty as a fan when Rock took the title off him.
Yeah...stick around...I have some killer Hippolyte Belange references you're gonna love.
ReplyDeleteme!
ReplyDeleteoh wait, i thought it said "your favourite loser"
Wrestler: La Parka
ReplyDeleteWhy: La Parka
Bret said that Bad News held petty grudges and cost The Cuban a job in WWF
ReplyDeleteI still don't think he came out and said he hated BNB though. He was basically just recounting what happened IIRC. Like there was some heat b/t Cuban and BNB due to their wives or something (it's been a while since I've read Bret's book, I have too many tears in my eyes to read it frequently) but it didn't seem like Bret was cross at BNB or anything.
ReplyDeleteYeah I don't see it either. I grew up on JCP and a heel like BNB probably wouldn't have gotten over. He might've done some business with Sting or a face Luger for a bit but without being able to bring it night in and night out in the ring, I don't see him being a long-term main event heel in JCP.
ReplyDeleteHopefully so.
ReplyDeleteI definitely prefer Nikki, mainly because she has some thickness to her. Brie often looks like a stick figure.
ReplyDeleteIt's a dead even tie between Randy Savage and Bret Hart. When I started watching in '92, Randy Savage made me a fan, but Bret Hart made sure I stayed a fan.
ReplyDeleteBret Hart. The guy was so good in the ring. Never had a really bad match, ever.
ReplyDeleteHonorable Mentions: Ric Flair, Randy Savage, John Cena, Kurt Angle.
Hogan. I don't think I need to explain why.
ReplyDeleteYou'll all think I'm crazy, but it's quite possibly Raven.
ReplyDeleteI wish the WWE had used the Raven character properly. :(
The roster was incredibly solid with an insane tag division. Much could be done.
ReplyDeleteI think the Midnights we're being de-pushed at this point and on their way out but somebody had a brain and put these two teams together. Probably wasn't the same brain that came up with the Black Scorpion storyline. Which would have worked if they had planned for an actual payoff and didn't use stupid magic tricks and illusions.
ReplyDeleteRic Flair! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ReplyDeletethey both are pretty bad. When she tried showing sincerity? Man was that the worst.
ReplyDeleteHacksaw Butch Reed....without question. You gotta remember: a) I'm black and b) I'm from the South, which pretty much was Mid-South country. All my friends liked Junkyard Dog, but I always dug the heels. Reed was the first black heel that I saw that could be this big badass football-player type, instead of being made to look like a buffoon...which also made his babyface run awesome.it doesnt hurt that he kinda favored my dad also, and he always threated to put soup bones on somebody's head. I'm referring to the Mid-South ass-kicking Butch Reed, not the ridiculous blond haired Natural Butch Reed he became in the WWF.
ReplyDeleteSTONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!
ReplyDeleteHave you already forgotten WeeLC?
ReplyDeleteI want to see the numbers next month after the initial reup. If the numbers still stink I think they should try putting up a ton of older content and advertising that fact. It might not work, but obviously holding back the older content hasn't worked either. I'm interested to see if people really do buy into the theory that if they reup WWE will reward them with more stuff or if there are some getting irritated about hoping for new content rather than having a bunch of content they KNOW they want to watch for 6 more months.
ReplyDeleteNo, Bad News was such an asshole that most promotions wouldn't touch him.
ReplyDeletewell with all the people cutting cable Netflix might not have programming available forever. At a certain point someone has to pay for content and if less and less is being paid for to be run on cable, then more and more has to be made directly for Netflix or other streaming service (like Orange is the new Black and House of Cards). As that happens, prices for Netflix WILL go up.
ReplyDeleteBUT BUT BUT 60 millions fans and whatnot
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely, worth every penny.
ReplyDeleteThe problem as I see it is the number of people who will watch the archive is very low. See the top 10 shows every week. Granted we don't know how that list is put together, but it's all we got. They can see what everyone watches and for how long.
ReplyDeleteThe demand for archived content is low. That is coming from a guy who would love to watch 80s and 90 WCW Worldwide all day. Classics on demand had like 180,000 subscribers. If they want to grow the network, they need to put out a wrestling product people will pay continually for, or they need popular original programing. I really think making Total Divas a netwrok exclusive, and make it known as such, would attract new subscribers. Give Stephanie a show so you don't lose rights fees from E!.
They can see what everyone watches and for how long. People are watching it, even if your not. Reality is relatively cheap to make. That is why they do the market research for it.
ReplyDeleteI thought registering email addresses was supposed to solve this problem?
ReplyDeleteOl' Shakins here must have a verified email. Gotta have verified email to make that kind of money from home.
ReplyDeleteGreat job as usual you two-- I laughed like a lunatic at "TAKE HER TO A SHITTY STEAKHOUSE AND LOOK AT THE FUCKING RABBIT." :)
ReplyDeletethanks we have a blast writing these, I think half of why we do these is to amuse ourselves - always great when we amuse others as well. :)
ReplyDeletecan't wait to see how you do this one. :P
ReplyDeleteI always thought of Allen Coage - Bad News Allen/Brown as a Steve Austin type wrestler -- albeit black.
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