WWE.com Article on Kevin Steen
The WWE announced that they have signed Steen. In the interview, Steen himself said that he begins training at NXT on August 25th.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-signs-kevin-steen-26556027
WWE Network to be Available on More Devices
Now, the network will be available on Sony internet connected TV's and Blu-Ray Players. Also, it will be available on Samsung TV's and Blu-Ray Players on Friday
http://pwinsider.com/article/87530/more-on-wwe-network-expanding-to-new-devices.html?p=1
TNA Cancels Live Events in September
http://pwinsider.com/article/87513/more-on-tna-september-live-event-cancellations.html?p=1
Wrestling Observer Radio Free Today
http://www.f4wonline.com/component/content/article/112-wrestling-observer/38424-free-today-aug-12-observer-radio-raw-report-summerslam-go-home-war-machine-del-rio-update-tna-schedule-your-questions-and-more
The WWE announced that they have signed Steen. In the interview, Steen himself said that he begins training at NXT on August 25th.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-signs-kevin-steen-26556027
WWE Network to be Available on More Devices
Now, the network will be available on Sony internet connected TV's and Blu-Ray Players. Also, it will be available on Samsung TV's and Blu-Ray Players on Friday
http://pwinsider.com/article/87530/more-on-wwe-network-expanding-to-new-devices.html?p=1
TNA Cancels Live Events in September
http://pwinsider.com/article/87513/more-on-tna-september-live-event-cancellations.html?p=1
Wrestling Observer Radio Free Today
http://www.f4wonline.com/component/content/article/112-wrestling-observer/38424-free-today-aug-12-observer-radio-raw-report-summerslam-go-home-war-machine-del-rio-update-tna-schedule-your-questions-and-more
I'm curious on just how long WWE will wait before having him start at NXT. What was the timeframe for Zayn?
ReplyDeleteTNA: EVERYTHING IS FINE!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSteen made it. Now we can see him recreate the Blow Away diet commercial that Buddy. Rose did back in the 80s.
ReplyDeleteActually if TNA is telling the truth and are cancelling these shows to make room for more New York TV tapings then this is a good move. They will draw bigger crowds and make more doing this then their pathetic house shows.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone remember it taking this long for WCW to die? I feel like WCW died in like 2 weeks. TNA is taking forever.
ReplyDeleteTNA telling the truth. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ReplyDeleteSo did anyone else hear the news about Sheamus being in the next Star Wars movie as Darth Vader?
ReplyDeleteOk so someone sell me on Steen. I'm seeing some youtube stuff and feel extremely confident there is no way in hell this guy gets over in WWE and that Vince won't have him jobbing to or dancing with Fandango a month in.
ReplyDeleteYeah that was a hoax, IIRC
ReplyDeleteThank goodness.
ReplyDeleteLooking back at it, will see the gradual death of the company. Like, WCW was shit forever, the purchase by WWF kinda happened but they had been terrible for what, two an a half years?
ReplyDeleteThe boy can work.
ReplyDeleteIt took me a long time to really have an opinion on him but the Steen/Generico tags with the Briscoes and their subsequent fall-out feud made me into a fan.
(yes, i admit to watching indy shit)
Yeah, the bottom just fell out in March of 99.
ReplyDeleteThey had some glimpses of shit with Steiner/Goldberg but it was far too gone by then.
Thats fine he can work but so can Chris Hero...who actually went through the work to get the shirtless body so on and so forth and he STILL never got to the big time. I don't see him getting over with Vince.
ReplyDeleteWell, it could be a flashback of some kind. Or he's just a character in the movie in general and NOT Darth Vader.
ReplyDeleteOh I agree
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't have a good chance based on appearance but if he turns into a trainer/buffer for the new guys coming up in NXT (ala Del Ray) then I consider it a win.
fair enough
ReplyDeleteHe's an awesome worker, like world class. And he's a big hoss. He has a very solid chance of pulling this off. Also he has unbelievable chemistry with sami zayn. The ladder match they had was off the charts. If he feuds with zayn in nxt it will turn a lot of heads. And he's very good on the mic. I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up as a main event guy.
ReplyDelete1) That should read "begins," not begin. Also, I'm REALLY curious to see how - or if - Steen will fit with the company.
ReplyDelete2) That's all well and dandy IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING FUCKED OVER BY ROGERS IN CANADA.
3) EVERYTHING IS FINE.
Woo. Gotta update the firmware on my Samsung BD player.
ReplyDeleteSteen is *EXACTLY* the kind of guy they need to be picking up. Even if he wasn't the worker he is he talks circles around their current roster.
To be fair, Hero was out of his element in the WWE. He could not adapt and never stood out in anything he ever did in developmental
ReplyDeleteChris Hero is generic indy guy #135 compared to Steen. Steen has a weird charisma and star factor that hero didn't have and he is a better worker, a better promo guy and bigger. Hero was just not in good enough shape but Steen can make his hossness part of a gimmick.
ReplyDeleteWell everyone can feel free to say I told you so...but here and now I'm saying Never Gonna Happen. I hope the guy is good, I hope I'm rooting for him soon and it works out but unless Vince isn't in charge by then he is going to see a guy who looks like he should be setting up the ring.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, wwe style seems right up steens alley. This feels like a right fit
ReplyDeleteHero was in shape.
ReplyDeleteHe was just wasnt cosmetically pleasing
What does the WWE network have against the Wii U?
ReplyDeleteThat's years of being forced to accept one type of look for a wrestler.
ReplyDeleteHe's humongous and looks like a wrestler, not a ring worker imo
ReplyDeleteNooooo... I disagree.
ReplyDeleteSteen's moveset is way more Japan than WWE. He is way too stiff.
humongous? I'm looking at his Wiki..he is 5'11
ReplyDeleteAlso check out the nxt roster. Steen/zayn/devitt/kenta/Neville/
ReplyDeletePlus he got serious promo chops
ReplyDeleteHate to tangent but if I was Punk, I would come back once Ambrose/Rollins/Zayn/Bryan/Steen (iff possible) are all permanent fixtures on the roster and start a new Kliq.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad to hear all this and until I have a reason to be against someone will always root for a new guy I just see him having an extra huge hole to dig himself out of.
ReplyDeleteWell I'm assuming he's talented enough to adapt but he wrestles like a wwe guy and can brawl with the best of them. I can easily see him mains eventing
ReplyDeleteZiggler, Cesaro, Daniel Bryan, kenta, zayn, Steen, devitt, ambrose, Rollins, Neville, and maybe even punk again one day. This how the wwe keeps me as a fan.
ReplyDeleteThe same thing that most 3rd party developers have against the Wii U, I guess. I've owned every North American Nintendo console, but I'm skeptical to buy the Wii U because of it's control pad.
ReplyDeleteAdapt?
ReplyDeleteLook up suicidaldragon's top ten Kevin Steen moves and tell me if 3 of them get approved by WWE.
He will have to learn WWE style (which shouldnt be hard)
cut some weight
come up with a finisher that the guys will take
Im glad for the guy and I hope for the best, but its such an uphill battle for him.
Unless, HHH has this master plan keeping these indy guys on the backburner for a while. Cuz PAC and Zayn were ready yesterday.
The business has gotten smaller.
ReplyDeleteAlso, keep your eyes on this Eminence Capital story. They are REALLY aggressive and active. Notorious for using litigation and other pressures to force a lot of issues. They basically singlehandedly forced the men's warehouse/JAB merger this year. I was really suprised to see they just bought up 10% of the wwe stock. They are absolutely up to something here.
ReplyDeleteAmbrose and Wyatt were there forever too. So that's a good sign for them
ReplyDeleteJohn Cena is stronger than any Kliq.
ReplyDeleteThe control pad is awesome.
ReplyDeleteThey may be, but they can't buy enough stock to do anything. The McMahons have not released enough to the public for it to be anything more than a novelty. And if Eminence tries anything, Vince will just buy them out and go private again. They may be sharks, but they're in Vince's ocean now.
ReplyDeleteIt's unfortunate, because the Wii U is a solid little system.
ReplyDeleteCena can't wrestle forever though.
ReplyDeleteMy biggest thing is that with all these indy guys coming thru the piepline and making waves, once Cena/Orton step down or the youth movement really becomes the norm, these are gonna be the guys.
The indy guys should really band together to secure their spots, cuz they are talented enough and now deep enough to really upset the apple cart
Yes because Vince never falters in the business world...say....pissing off world wildlife federation and having to rename his company.....losing legal battle after legal battle to things like Superstars of Wrestling....
ReplyDeleteYea but buying up 10% of the public stock means nothing when the mcmahon stock is like 4-5 votes to every publics 1.
ReplyDeleteExactly. This isn't about legal competence. It's about mathematics.
ReplyDeleteNot at all. They have enough stock to do all kinds of things. There are dozens and dozens of ways to force the wwes hands to do something that don't involve Vince voting. And this fund knows every trick and Ricky Sandler is a genius and a aggressive dude. I highly doubt they are trying to overthrow Vince, I don't know what they are doing though. The controlling shareholders at MW absolutely didn't want to merge with jab and they forced it through.
ReplyDeleteI bet Bret Hart thought that, too.
ReplyDeleteI'm not disagreeing that point really and don't know about this Eminence group to argue about it. I'm just pointing out the ..."Well...Vince wouldn't let that happen this is his world" attitude is a bit shaky when history has proven Vince has still run this company like a carny on a number of occasions that have come back to bite him.
ReplyDeleteOkay -- serious thought: if you know, what can 10% do to a company? Because I think the answer otherwise is "they're buying low". Remember, we just came off of a bizarre bubble caused by rumors that no one can substantiate and could be easily disproven. So in their mind, maybe this is just an investment opportunity.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing is, as said before, Vince being who he is he would rather go private again than have people tell him what to do.
Difference: Vince never got behind Bret 100%. Cena's got the support of the three people that matter most: Vince, Steph, and Dunn. (And probably HHH too, but he'd get outvoted anyway.)
ReplyDeletei agree, vince is an idiot when it comes to dealing with anything outside his bubble (and alot within it)
ReplyDeleteBut the mcmahons stock and the public stock is so disparaging its disgusting. Even owning 10% sways nothing if it comes down to a vote.
It means these guys have their hooks in and they do not fuck around. If Vince isn't squeezing every penny to their satisfaction they have a tool box full of options to proceed with, none of which would require Vince's permission. I guarantee you they don't want to take over, but other than that I have no clue what's happening or why he's so interested. Something is going on, either good or bad that will we here about soon so I'm just suggesting people may want to follow this story.
ReplyDeleteThe control pad is fantastic. I wasn't sure going in but I love it.
ReplyDeleteWell I for one am not intrigued and will keep an eye on it. Thank you
ReplyDeleteHere's an thought: Could Vince even AFFORD to buy the outstanding stock back up without really fucking up the WWE's financial situation?
ReplyDeleteEven if it's a minority, it would still be an expensive minority.
OH, SO THE MIDCARD MAFIA ARE THE GRAMMER POLICE NOW
ReplyDelete*changed my mistake on the verge of tears
I was thinking that too, all the talk about just buying it back. He might be able to right now but for how long if they keep losing money in the network growing period.
ReplyDeleteAt 10%, you're talking about $80M as of now. I think he can find the liquidity in his personal account.
ReplyDelete694M as of today is his net worth.
ReplyDelete... but Vince would have to buy back ALL the public stock, not just the 10% these guys own. Otherwise they just buy some more off of others, and here we go again.
ReplyDeleteMatching Cena shower towels to go with the hand towels will make up the difference.
ReplyDeleteGod damnit, Bayless! Get it together!
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, they would need a forklift to pick him up....
ReplyDelete.....He's FAT.
I see what you did there.
ReplyDeleteA bit random, but I've been watching a healthy amount of WWE from 05 because that's the year I was really out of the product and noticed that Cena has aged considerably since then which came as a surprise to me. I just always assumed he had the same appearance since I started watching again in late 06 but you can see a definitive change in his face.
ReplyDeleteAgain, don't know how that applies to anything but it has led me to believe that one day he's not actually going to wrestle.
Question about Steen: when I saw some of his early work, I knew he had potential to be a big deal -- he was a decent middleweight. But all the clips I've seen of him lately make me think he's a bowling ball... I know he's only 6' max, but he looks 300+ easily. Is he like a Samoa Joe where the weight doesn't hinder him, or is this a case of someone with a red flag of "cannot control weight"?
ReplyDeleteDon't forget Bray Wyatt!
ReplyDeleteYeah that'll happen over the course of 10 years
ReplyDeleteThey aren't the type of place that rides bubbles. This is a major private hedge fund that is on the cutting edge of analytics, and employs a bunch of the guys who invented many of the new things you can trade money on like stock derivatives. They are not coming in to hold this and sell it. That is not their IMO at all. I am very familiar with Sandler and Eminence and they have made major moves over and over in zinc and copper that affected worldwide prices. This is not some ham n egger hedge fund. But again, they are not trying to push out Vince. No chance they would bother. They are up to something else.
ReplyDeleteWhat could they do with 10%? HOld the wwes balls to fire if they aren't fulfilling every bit of their fiduciary duty to Sandler's satisfaction and they now have enough stock to have standing to pursue every legal remedy and litigation tactic under the sun.
Yeah, I love that thing. Playing Zelda? Here's a map in your hands and a way to really quickly switch between items. Same goes for a bunch of other games including shooters. Mario Kart is gorgeous. The new Zelda games look amazing. It's a quality system.
ReplyDeleteNot necessarily.
ReplyDeleteAs long as they show Vince their thighs, they all have a chance.
ReplyDeleteIf Jim Ross were still around he would fat shame him in the Ross Report every week.
ReplyDeleteI just love laying in bed and playing the games straight on the pad itself. I have yet to actually play the Wii U on my television.
ReplyDeleteI saw something from back then recently and had a similar oh..wow..but yeah that is going to happen to just about anyone over 9 years. It has to me thats for sure. Compare any of the others like, Punk, Orton, Batista over that period and you forget how young everyone looked.
ReplyDeleteBut they are firing people anyways.
ReplyDeleteUnless Sandler is in the know of who is doing what with what on the creative side, they are a toothless pitbull IMO.
When you first saw Cena he was 27 - he's now 37. Naturally his face will have changed
ReplyDeleteWell...we can't all be as genetically gifted as Ross.
ReplyDeleteI...I... dont know how to respond to this.
ReplyDeleteI dont see Cena full time by 2020 tbh.
ReplyDeleteAnd he'd use a lot of euphemisms for fat with "quotation marks" like he's doing air quotes every 3 goddamn sentences.
ReplyDeleteMaybe -- just maybe -- they see the Network as being what it is: years ahead of its time. And they figure that other entities will be asking WWE for backup in making their own internal service. And that means big money for Vince and, in turn, for them. If their thing is conductive metals, then they must believe Vince will be a big man in needing infrastructure and fiber optics -- the very things copper especially is used for.
ReplyDeleteI mean, I don't know either, but I'd like to think it's benign.
So you are saying you noticed his "subtle" jabs?
ReplyDeleteThere might be a stock increase once the other countries launch and they are buying low and selling high for a quick buck.
ReplyDeleteI dont see this company having a long term stake in the WWE
Odds are they know of either something good or bad that's about to happen to something related to the wwe and setting themselves up to take advantage of it. Also if they do bite these guys are not toothless. They had less % of men's warehouse then they do of the wwe and shocked the financial world by forcing that merger. Again I'm not saying they will get Vince out, just saying something is up, could be good or bad.
ReplyDeleteIt's not like he's working a Kevin Nash of wrestling. When there's a big match, the dude goes.
ReplyDeleteBut if they "know something" thats insider trading correct?
ReplyDeleteThat's illegal.
I'd go shorter than that. I could see him part time in a couple years unless Vince is throwing millions at him because he has no one to carry the card.
ReplyDeleteI think he's aged extraordinarily well. Yeah, there's an extra line or two on his and Lesnar's faces, but they practically look like they've time traveled from 2002 for this fight. In addition, the fact that his face and head haven't expanded would lead me to believe that maybe he's not on as much PEDs as suspected.
ReplyDeleteYou're right but by 2020 with the schedule he has kept up, his body isn't going to get better, its gonna get worse. He has been in the WWE since 01-02 and been on top since 05... Thats damn near ten on top. Thats almost longer than Hogan and nearly up there with Bruno.
ReplyDeleteWhile he doesnt work Hogan's road schedule, he does way more personal apps and certainly more than Bruno's schedule.
I see him severely reducing his schedule in the next 2-3 years and then going into part time mode by 2020.
see below,
ReplyDeleteThey definitely don't have any long term stake. They are in to make some kind of move and get out. I'd be suprised if it was for that quick of a flip though, but then again I'd be suprised if the international market network subs moved the stock up that much. Their reputation is traditionally that they take advantage of unhealthy companies and situations but I also don't follow every move they make so its possible this isn't one of those cases. Either way, another shoe will drop at some point.
ReplyDeleteThat's a good point.
ReplyDeleteI always thought Cena was on roids especially after his pec tear and return.
But if anything, he has gotten smaller since that tear
I wouldn't either, but facts are facts.
ReplyDeleteTotal illegal. But these guys in particular have like algorithms and formulas I couldn't even begin to really understand that basically act like a crystal ball. Eminence is like if you crossed Gordon Gecko with Matt Damon in good will hunting
ReplyDeleteI see your point but I also see Cena as a dude that probably has been saving his money and see what a brock makes for what brock works and has to be thinking ...I could enjoy my 40's with a lot less pain in the morning going offically full time in a couple years and still make big money because Vince will give it to me.
ReplyDeleteThat's a lot of $9.99 subscriptions!
ReplyDeleteWell Canada is coming with the Network idk the specifics of how many est will it reach but Im sure its a sizeable chunk.
ReplyDeleteEurope will follow and Japan after that.
I dont recall if they are looking to India and China. If they hit those markets thats news that would drive the stock price way up due to the fact that those 2 countries are roughly 1/4 of the worlds population.
Highly unlikely they have benign motives but its 50-50 whether its based on a bad thing they are trying to capitalize on or a good thing they are trying to leech off.
ReplyDeleteYes, exactly.
ReplyDeleteI love JR, but his barbq blog "writing" style drove me "crazy."
I loved back when he was more involved in creative and then said stuff in the Ross Report about hoping such and such would get a fair shake or someone was an up and comer who he hoped would get a bigger push..as if he was some outsider looking in.
ReplyDeleteOnly Quasimodo and Egor can be. It's an exclusive group.
ReplyDeleteI find it somewhat humorous that TNA has reached out for help in figuring out how not to tape so far in advance that they spoil their own PPVs.
ReplyDeleteThere is a "ring the fucking bell" joke in there some where.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that was cool, but it was the style itself that bugged me.
ReplyDeleteBrilliant.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like only part of Canada is getting it though, and its like a watered down TV channel. China and India would be huge but how much of either population has something to watch the network on, has the spare cash to pay for it, and what's the broadband internet like throughout the country?
ReplyDeleteSorry...
ReplyDelete....."Brilliant".
Put it this way: can't be worse than Australia, can it?
ReplyDeleteOkay, lets just say for shits and gigs that out of the 2 billion people in India and china, only 10% could carry it and only 1% actually purchased it.
ReplyDeletethats still 2 million... WIN.
WWE Network launch day in Canada and yup just as i figured, it's exclusive to Rogers customers! It'll change eventually of course but as of now even my local Shaw cable reps say they have no idea when it's coming or even if negotiations have begun.
ReplyDeleteGuess they don't really want our...$11.99!
Yes, the "brilliance" of having Bound For Glory in Japan, resulting in not having enough time or resources to tape a new Impact for the following Thursday. LOLTNA.
ReplyDeleteThat sounds good but they only got 700k subs on their home base. Getting more wwe network subscribers in China than America seems unlikely. It could happen though.
ReplyDelete#RISEABOVETHESOMAS
ReplyDeleteHow many people have Rogers vs Shaws?
ReplyDeletewwe has officially become STEENINATED!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletewoohoo!!!
(sorry, farva)
Think of how much it will cost for the reinforced rings???!!!
ReplyDeleteThey're going to have to cut more talent because of this.
Nintendo has always done things well. Their problem is they often ignore the market and the demand. It has often worked in their favor, because they are Nintendo, and they can control and influence the market and demand up to a point (less and less every year).
ReplyDeleteNintendo marches to the beat of their own drum. Everybody thought the Virtual Boy sucked. And it did. Everybody thought the N64 came out too late. And it did. Everybody thought the Super NES came out too late. But it still won it's generation. Everybody thought the Wii sucked. But it sold like hotcakes. Time after time people knock Nintendo's portal market. Until recently, they've ALWAYS won at the portable market (Gameboys, DS).
Time will tell if Nintendo can pull out another rabbit.
That's what I meant. What he's doing to his body would destroy most in a few years. He's willing to take a lot of impact. I doubt he turns into Edge at the least.
ReplyDeleteIm not saying that per se.
ReplyDeleteWhat Im saying is that 1M was their magic number to break even, right?
Where does it matter where the 1M comes from? Yeah it would be nice to tell investors we got 1M in the states, but between UK/Japan/Canada Im sure they will hit that mark.
Cool, now they break even-ish (idk about the operating costs in other countires but its all digital so i couldnt see it being that much more)
You go out to the two biggest countries in the world and get your foothold there. You have to take that risk just because of the sheer numbers. Its way too much reward there. WWE is a global brand. People come from all over the world to come to WM. Its very recognizable. Those are the 2 markets every company needs to be in because like i said above, even at 1% between the two countries... its 2 million.
The money upside is just crazy to me.
Actually WCW was getting good in like its last six months (probably when Russo was gone forever). Lance Storm, Sean O'Haire (before WWE fucked him up), Chuck Palumbo, Shane Helms, Shannon Moore, A.J. freakin' Styles and others were working the midcard, and guys like Luger, Buff, Nash and DDP were actually putting new guys over. It was a rebuilding stage, but I wish we would've gotten to see what that roster could do, instead of WWF absorbing these guys and wrecking most of them.
ReplyDeleteInternet connected TVs = Smart TVs correct?
ReplyDeleteI have a Vizio so that will be another option outside of my PS3.
Is there an online component in Canada or is it an actual channel?
ReplyDeleteand the buffets of course. always remember the buffets.
ReplyDeleteJust imagine me arriving on the scene like the minion in Despicable Me 2. Wearing a fireman's helmet with siren. Only in this case, it'd be a police helmet of some sort.
ReplyDeleteBEE-DO-BEE-DO-BEE-DO-BEE-DO!
No online component, it's an actual channel with VOD.
ReplyDeleteHow much VOD? Who knows i'll have to wait and read some reviews hopefully some people here on the Blog have signed up.
CENAAGESLOL
ReplyDeleteSteen is fat!
ReplyDelete#RIPFarva
Not necessarily. Does your TV have options for Netflix etc... built in?
ReplyDeleteI like Cheeseburger In Paradise more than Margaritaville...
ReplyDeleteWho cares?
ReplyDelete#ThisIsAmericaDamnIt
#WeThePeople
Ho ho! Is funny because Steen not slim!
ReplyDeleteThey didn't have a place on the roster for Davey Richards or Eddie Edwards, but they'll sign this worthless fat fuck to a contract? Fuck this company.
ReplyDeleteGuess what... when you go from your middle 20's to your middle 30's... you are going to age a lot also.
ReplyDeleteGET OFF MY LAWN!
WCW was showing glimpses, but the brand was so far damaged by then, it was a risk to the paying customer to purchase it.
ReplyDeleteSo while i agree with you, the bottom (the paying customer) fell out in March 99 at Uncensored when they did a esitmated 90% drop off in buys from the year before.
I'm so happy you got it! I wasn't sure at first, but there you go proving the doubters wrong! :)
ReplyDeleteIt's geographic, Rogers as a cable provider isn't available in Western Canada, period.
ReplyDeleteYou can buy their cell phone service nationwide but old fashioned cable? Nope. Canada is carved up like the old territory days when it comes to cable tv.
Last numbers i've seen is there's about 12 million cable subscriber homes in Canada and Rogers has about 2.25 Million and Shaw is close behind with over 2 million.
lol.... Oh noes, a few indy guys didn't get signed!! WWE SUCKS!!!!
ReplyDelete"Give yourself to the Darkside Fella!"
ReplyDeleteSomewhat O/T: Vince has been trying to force me to like Swagger years, and he finally does it and he's really just "generic flagwaiver #242".
ReplyDeleteThis shows that it honestly doesn't take much for me to like something. It also shows that most shit currently on the show is reprehensibly bad.
Davey Richards is an asshole. Edwards I'll agree is too bad, but I think he didn't want to break up the act.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't in the live thread last night until the very end because I was busy exploiting Robin Williams death for my own financial gain (America Love It Or Leave IT) did everyone stroke out when he beat Cesaro?
ReplyDeleteWelcome aboard the bandwagon. Tickets, please. Don't mind me; I'm the driver.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree, love the WiiU
ReplyDeleteHE'S FAT!
ReplyDeleteSince his weight gain he has adapted more of a brawling style, but really he is still the same wrestler. He can still do the high flying shit, technical wrestling, etc.
ReplyDeleteThose two are OVERRATED
ReplyDeleteI wasn't in the live thread either. I was watching with the sound down as I folded some laundry. I'm guessing people flipped their shit. I really don't care. Both guys are great. To be honest, I kind of wish the Real Americans would get back together and beat up the Usos.
ReplyDeleteI'll admit it....Swagger has grown on me. Of course, Dutch is helping it a great deal.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you hate all Samoans?
ReplyDeleteLast I checked, the product sucks, the company is run by morons at most major levels, and Steen is an indy guy as well. Your point? Or were you just trying to be an asshole?
ReplyDeleteSeriously we're talking about two guys who couldn't play ball politically in the lax Ring of Honor environment and we're expecting the WWE to give them deals? They are ridiculously talented but do you really think they're going to do business with them if they can't be grownups?
ReplyDeleteVanilla Midgets FTW!!!!
ReplyDelete....cause we don't have enough of those guys.
I think both are fantastic workers but you see how much they've done in TNA which is jack and shit. They haven't moved the needle at all. Based on the bellyflop they've done there why would WWE have any interest?
ReplyDeleteSame reason Young Bucks will probably never get picked up by the WWE.
ReplyDeleteHow many vanilla midgets does WWE really have? Rollins definitely isn't in that category at this point. Maybe Justin Gabriel and Tyson Kidd?
ReplyDeleteAbout 2 months for him to make the show.
ReplyDeleteYoung Bucks have improved a ton and grown up a lot in their time overseas. They would be a good pickup now.
ReplyDeleteOne of the best things the WWE has done in ignoring guys is not give the Briscoes a deal. Fuck their backwoods homophobe bullshit and their shitty flippy flop style. I highly enjoyed jeering them every chance I got at Ring of Honor when they were "faces."
You're reaching Vince Jackson level of troll status bud
ReplyDeleteSteen at least is unique. Richards and Edwards would be two Evan Bourne's out there.
ReplyDeletenot sure why people lump eddie in with davey's faults. i've never heard a bad word about eddie, whereas davey is infamous for having a shit attitude
ReplyDeleteIdk, iv still heard nothing but ego's getting in the way and them not wanting to play ball.
ReplyDeleteCorrect me if I'm wrong, but it's mainly Richards that's a pain in the ass right?
ReplyDeleteI heard he was part of the falling out as well but I haven't been up on ROH news in years so I could be wrong.
ReplyDeleteAnd that is exactly how somebody who doesn't keep up with all the newz is going to perceive.
The problem is that the Manhattan Center is ridiculously expensive to run, and their shows last week didn't sell out like a couple of their June shows that are currently airing did. The novelty of "TNA in NYC" has worn off.
ReplyDeleteRollins is definitely in that category to Vince.
ReplyDelete1) He wears pants
2) His thighs must not be molest-able
Therefore, he's a vanilla midget.
No idea. I haven't kept up with ROH in years since we don't get Sinclair stuff in metro Detroit unless you live near Wixom.
ReplyDeleteI agree the product sucks but kevin Steen is like 8 million times better than Richards. Richards is the trademark indy worker. Steen is just better in every aspect.
ReplyDeleteThey should be looking for less buff big guys and vanilla midgets and more Steen and Bray type guys who stand out, not just fat, different. Harper, etc...
ReplyDeleteRollins has done softcore gay porn and his thighs are not considered molestable?
ReplyDeletefair enough on the 2nd part
ReplyDeleteas to the 1st, roh specifically told davey he wasn't welcome at final battle '13, so eddie got to say goodbye and put over the decade but davey wasn't even mentioned. i always interpreted the wolves leaving as just looking for what they considered a better opportunity, with the addition backstage of "good riddance to davey"
Why DO I hate all Samoans?
ReplyDeleteI think it's time for some self reflection.
that's always been my impression
ReplyDeleteChris Benoit sank Davey's chance to be anything in the business before Davey even caught on if you're asking me. I think he has a lot of Benoit's talent and hasn't murdered anybody but I think nobody wants to invite the comparison, though every now and then they like to flaunt it in our face by letting HHH or someone do a crossface. I think that's more HHH waving his dick around and showing what he's allowed to do.
ReplyDeleteLet Jojo Walters or whatever dumb name they give Steen resume his feud with Sami Zayn and that should be some good NXT for a little bit.
ReplyDeletei totally hear you on the benoit stuff
ReplyDelete1st time i ever saw davey was in 2006 or so, and while he impressed the hell out of me, he also made me think of benoit (who obviously was still alive at the time)
but now when the benoit comparisons pop to mind for davey, they're accompanied by "oh, right" which just by association brings davey down a notch
doesn't help that the person that benoit was always associated with (dynamite kid) is a huge POS, as well
Not to Vince. If they were molestable, Vince would force him to wear shorts.
ReplyDeleteLook, I don't write the rules.
I'm not familiar with ROH guys, but AT LEAST Steen has a more unique look, and would stand out more than "generic 210 lbs flippy floppity indy guy #2842". So I will definitely give Steen a chance.
ReplyDeletehah, joke's on you
ReplyDeletethey already have a jojo!!!
This is correct. Eddie is welcome back anywhere on the indies. Davey has burned every bridge except TNA.
ReplyDeletei approve of your avatar of the titty master
ReplyDeleteI forgot about that girl...she was the one who got dropped from Total Divas.
ReplyDeleteThat's like being replaced on a soap opera because you can't act.
On top of that, can't you argue that Daniel Bryan is the new Benoit anyway? Similar submission hold, diving headbutt, rises on sheer talent, smark darling...
ReplyDeleteExcept that nothing I say is serious, and I'm not a delusional nut gobbler.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'll ask: where is this coming from? Does Vince really feel up the talent like that? The MALE talent, anyway?
ReplyDeletedidnt follow the live thread, but i'm assuming at least one of the following happened:
ReplyDelete- people were hoping someone would pop out of one of the presents and made comparisons to the wcw angle with sting in '91
- when the announcers said steph had a confession, people started talking about the savage rumor
- as soon as it became apparent where the angle with the PT was going, people started talking about claire lynch. i bet some people (myself included) even mentioned that it would be hilarious if they actually had used claire lynch
- when the promo for main event aired with the usos' open challenge, some people commented it would be answered by the ascension
Beating HHH and winning the world title at a Wrestlemania that ends with the digit "0"
ReplyDeletedepends on the point of comparison
ReplyDeletethe way davey carries himself is extremely similar to benoit, which is where that comes from
the circumstances surrounding dbry's career might echo benoit, but in terms of overall perception, they're nothing alike
...in a triple threat match, by submission...
ReplyDeleteWhich only proves that THE YETAAAAY MIGHT be on the WWE creative team.
ReplyDeleteTell me Mr. THE YETAAAAY......do you regularly take it up the pooper from Kevin Dunn?
We'll wait breathlessly for the answer.
While the IWC bitched about how WWE was ruining his title reign just a few months in.... (I just ruined it, didn't I?)
ReplyDeleteWay to fail me. The correct answer was "Because this is America, now say with me in a loud clear voice WE THE PEOPLE!"
ReplyDeleteWell, I didn't want to be obvious.
ReplyDelete...but he as an excessive amount of adipose tissue!
ReplyDelete-at least one person swore they would never watch again when Swagger beat Cesaro
ReplyDeleteSteen's so much better of a prospect than Davey-- actual promo ability, unique look, and being able to craft a match that isn't just spot monkey flippitty flops and bad MMA impressions.
ReplyDeleteAnd also Davey's such a dick he couldn't even navigate the political environment of ROH--- why would WWE waste their time on the guy?
Richards is as indieriffic as it gets.