Daniel Bryan Update
Bryan, who has been doing rehab on a daily basis, still has almost no strength in his right arm. He was set to undergo elbow surgery on 8/19 as they believed there was a nerve issue that was not allowing him to regain strength but that was postponed and they want to see if they can fix the issue without surgery. Bryan has been told that after surgery, he would probably be able to return in three months.
Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter
WWE Filmed Multiple Segments With Brock Lesnar
Additional segments with Lesnar were filmed Monday in Las Vegas to use on future shows since he will not be appearing on all of the RAW episodes.
Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter
How Does the WWE View Dean Ambrose?
In terms of being a main eventer, the company does not believe that Ambrose is ready for that spot.
Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter
Bryan, who has been doing rehab on a daily basis, still has almost no strength in his right arm. He was set to undergo elbow surgery on 8/19 as they believed there was a nerve issue that was not allowing him to regain strength but that was postponed and they want to see if they can fix the issue without surgery. Bryan has been told that after surgery, he would probably be able to return in three months.
Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter
WWE Filmed Multiple Segments With Brock Lesnar
Additional segments with Lesnar were filmed Monday in Las Vegas to use on future shows since he will not be appearing on all of the RAW episodes.
Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter
How Does the WWE View Dean Ambrose?
In terms of being a main eventer, the company does not believe that Ambrose is ready for that spot.
Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter
And, IWC meltdown about Dean Ambrose getting buried in 3.... 2.... 1....
ReplyDeleteannnnd go
ReplyDeleteAnd you complain about people complaining about stuff that hasn't happened yet.
ReplyDeleteIt's what he does
ReplyDeleteTHAT DAMN ROMAN REIGNS! IT'S ALL HIS FAULT FOR BEING BIG AND SO DREAMY!! I HATE WWE!!!
ReplyDeleteYOU WILL ENTER MY HALL OF COMPLAIN!! THAT'S WHAT I DO!!
ReplyDeleteIf only Ambrose had the face of Bradley Cooper. Then he would get the strap!
ReplyDeleteIf they think Ambrose isn't ready for main-events yet...that's fine. But if they think Ambrose isn't ready for main-events and Roman Reigns is....they're fucking insane.
ReplyDelete*Belt
ReplyDeleteThat Ambrose thing could be completely made up, such a dumb piece of 'news'
ReplyDeleteI wrote a 4,000 page thesis on how Lesnar/Ambrose was gonna main event Mania.
ReplyDeleteDean Ambrose, at this time, is not main event material. You know this.
ReplyDeleteI'm not arguing that, just saying it's weird how that info would even leak. Makes me cringe to think some internet nerd just made it up and it's 'news'.
ReplyDelete"The Taking of Dean Ambrose"
ReplyDeleteThat would actually be "The Taking of Roman Reigns", so Ambrose could be placed in the main event, right?
ReplyDeleteIf Miz looked like Paul Giamatti, smarks would be his #1 fan
ReplyDeleteAmbrose is objectively a good looking dude
ReplyDelete*Title
ReplyDeleteI'd be cool with Ambrose getting one PPV shot against Lesnar in the fall in a brief feud. As long as they follow up properly, it would give him some main event credibility as he works his way up while giving Lesnar a temporary feud the fans would be into.
ReplyDelete*championship
ReplyDeleteYep, basically "gossip disguised as news". Just like last year with Daniel.
ReplyDelete#1. That describes 98% of internet wrasslin' news.
ReplyDelete#2. It could very well be a topic being discussed informally around the company's brass because it's being discussed across the internet. I know HHH and Vince are all "LOL INTERNET," but they still pay attention to it.
I'd say there's precedent, considering that there were about 5 or 6 legit updates with actual news about Bryan early in the year and about 70,000 meltdowns about him being buried.
ReplyDeleteThe crowd forced the company's hand with that.
ReplyDeleteLesnar is not subjecting himself to small, little feuds with the likes of Ambrose. He's only gonna be around a short period of time and it's the likes of Cena, Rock etc he'll be feuding with, IMO.
ReplyDeleteThen there is also precedent for WWE Creative making stupid decisions that annoy people on the BoD.
ReplyDeleteWhy am I not surprised that the company that had to be dragged kicking and screaming on making Bryan a top guy doesn't view Ambrose as one?
ReplyDeleteThe Assasination of Dean Ambrose By The Coward Seth Rollins.
ReplyDeleteSomeone like Meltzer asks a source about their plans for Ambrose And how they currently view him and they answer. Not tough to find this out
ReplyDelete"WWE Filmed Multiple Segments With Brock Lesnar"
ReplyDeleteTook them two whole years to figure out how to maximize his appearances..
No
ReplyDeleteYeah that seems like it was designed to cause outrage
ReplyDeleteHow much did HHH pay the surgeon to botch Bryan's surgery, brother?!?!?!?!
ReplyDeleteWHO PAID FOR THE PLASTIC SURGERY BROTHER?
ReplyDeleteLook at the hundred dollar bills falling out of James Andrews' pockets, brother!!!
ReplyDeleteRandom thought I had: Bray Wyatt needs to blade at least once in his career. That face was made for a crimson mask. Crab walking with blood dripping on the mat would be the coolest image since Austin at 13.
ReplyDeleteComparing Dean Ambrose, at this stage in his career, to Daniel Bryan is ludicrous.
ReplyDeleteAre people still complaining about this? So they gave him a "test drive" in his first year to make sure he was fully committed, and wasn't gonna split. Now he's earned their trust, and he's a beast. He is a monster now, 2012 simply doesn't matter. Those losses to Cena and HHH mean NOTHING right now.
ReplyDeleteGood thing I didn't.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't "The taking of Chris Benoit". It was "The taking of HHH". So my point stands.
ReplyDeleteI know it's like a game of telephone and we're getting bits and pieces of bits and pieces of info but Bryan's story seems off. Seems odd a nerve issue in his elbow would prevent the upper arm from regaining strength. Unless he's in pain and can't lift because of it. I think we'd all agree to forget the post-Mania Kane shit and Bryan should call it a day after 30
ReplyDeleteNeither Ambrose NOR Reigns - right now - is "ready" for a main event spot. The problem is the WWE has already baked that cake for Reigns no matter what. Let's see where they both are in a few months.
ReplyDeleteWha? Then what are you saying? You bring up Bryan to comment on Ambrose. There's a connection you're trying to make.
ReplyDeleteThe loss to Cena never actually meant anything except to those who can't get past wins and losses in a pretend sport. The point then was never that he was there to get a pinfall. He was there to hurt Cena. And he did. It was smart booking because everyone in the match fulfilled their objectives and got more over because of it.
ReplyDeleteHe was just pointing out the obvious how they could have done this right off of the bat with Lesnar and that would have probably would have gave the company a big boost coming off of WM 28.
ReplyDeleteDean Ambrose is not a main event talent purple monkey dishwasher.
ReplyDeleteYeah, and I said that the story of the SS match was that he wanted the championship instead of wanting to just kick his ass at Extreme Rules
ReplyDeleteYep, Cena was booked to win as a total fluke because Brock got cocky. This time, Brock stayed focused, and we got the right result. Simple storytelling. Yet some people just can't get over it.
ReplyDeleteEh, Meltzer doesn't negate that. TJ is elbow surgery. But now he's trying to avoid it
ReplyDeleteThread Jack surgery?
ReplyDeleteWhat I'm saying is that this company is retarded when it comes to pushing people not named John Cena.
ReplyDeleteYeah, as a sports fan, the words "Tommy John" make it seem much worse, because the stigma associated with normal recovery times for athletes.
ReplyDeletemaybe Bryan needs Tommy John. (and then my baseball and wrestling worlds collide.)
ReplyDeleteHe did give the company a big boost coming off WM28. The ER buyrate was a huge success and justified most of his big contract in his first match.
ReplyDeleteAt the time he was only going to be around for a year and given their past with him, were probably rightly wary of him fulfilling all of the dates he was signed for. So any long-term narrative wouldn't have really made any sense.
You didn't make a point, you asked a question.
ReplyDeleteBut after the first match, it didn't boost the company. They never built off of that.
ReplyDeleteBut Ambrose isn't ready for that push. Do you want the company to go out of business.
ReplyDeleteSounds that way. See below. :)
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think they are not ready? They've been top guys for years now, and both are the top two baby faces on the roster not named Daniel Bryan.
ReplyDeleteNo one's ready til they get it. Doesn't mean it'll work and you get Austin 2.0 (or whoever) but to say they'd go out of business for trying seems overboard. Crowd would have went insane if Ambrose made the end show save on whatever Raw that was he was jumped in the back
ReplyDeleteAlthough it has been good for Tommy John seeing as that is the only reason anyone remembers him.
ReplyDeletethan how the hell do they think Reigns is ready for that spot when he doesnt get an 1/8th the pops of ambrose, and is 1/800th the wrestler of ambrose. SMFH at the E's logic. As for DB this isnt great news at all, he is going to have to completely alter his move set (no more diving head butts, or throwing his body around recklessly).
ReplyDeleteRhetorical, baby! Aka, "I am right, but I will be polite about it". Taking of Roman Reigns, dude!!
ReplyDeleteLook, everybody knows you can get lost in his smoldering eyes. The problem is that he's just not engaging the crowds like a main eventer ought to do.
ReplyDeleteRight. The guy who gets the loudest pops every Monday Night is going to bankrupt the company if they push him to the top.
ReplyDelete"Yet some people just can't get over it."
ReplyDelete*Raises hand*
Although it was mainly that promo afterwards.
I'm still trying to decide if the Daniel Bryan injury was horrible timing or great timing.
ReplyDeleteCM Punk has got to be the biggest wrestling star, post Wrestlemania I, that never closed out the show right? Am I missing someone else?
ReplyDeleteThey need to let him be himself. Reigns is naturally charismatic but the crappy lines they feed him are not going to connect him with the crowd.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, the WWE writers are crafting some truly pathetic dialogue lately
I'm more into Ambrose than Reigns (I dig Reigns well enough, but I'm not so sure about him as The One), as I'm betting many others are. At the very least they are not burying Ambrose, so there is hope.
ReplyDeleteDean Ambrose has been probably 50% of the main events on TV since he got to the wwe and has main evented several ppvs. How is he not a main eventer?
ReplyDeleteBecause they never intended to. Because they didn't expect him to be around past a year. All they wanted him to do was pop a few buyrates to get their sagging PPV numbers at least back to where they'd been, and he did.
ReplyDeleteIf they'd known he'd be around for several years like he has now, their intentions for him would have likely been much different.
Zack Ryder.
ReplyDeleteNormally Miz is my go to joke for this sort of thing... but he actually did close out a Wrestlemania
This. Plus, the promo might have worked if he actually went away for a bit or changed the least bit.
ReplyDeleteThe Ambrose thing is probably just a case of Vince trying to fuck him out of money. "Oh yeah, you're not ready to be a top guy yet...oh and your booked in the main event of raw and smackdown for the next six months."
ReplyDeleteDon't call me baby. I enjoying being in the corner.
ReplyDeleteYou shut your mouth. You never know who's reading this.
ReplyDeleteTHAT IS NOT FAIR TO FLAIR.
ReplyDeleteWell, I think they are both close. That's why I say a few months. I lean more towards Ambrose having the full package. Although, maybe with a pre-WM "main event" push in some of the lesser ppv's etc., Reigns could well prove himself of being THE top guy that the company appears dead set on. So I'm open minded. And l will admit, like you say, there really aren't any other options right now.
ReplyDeleteYeah, while Cena going over made sense, his promo afterward completely fucked up the context. Him actually being out awhile would have made it make even more sense.
ReplyDeleteDid we ever find out what the fuck the deal was with that promo? Did he think he was actually really hurt? Was he just going into business for himself?
I see it as Reigns = 2004 Orton, and Ambrose being 2004 Batista. One is the heir apparent, but the other is also very over, and might sneak into the WM main event instead. I'm fine with either scenario.
ReplyDeleteAmbrose is a fine wrestler, not worthy of a main event push. He'd be lucky, at this point in his career, to be battling over the Big Belt were it still around.
ReplyDeleteI swear people have forgotten how big The Shield were.
ReplyDeleteone last thing about ambrose. he needs to ditch that corny ass nickname "the lunatic fringe" and get better entrance music. Reigns needs to stop coming through the crowd as well.
ReplyDeleteEh, Flair only arguably had the one shot vs Savage that could have. Punk might have worked any time over last 2-3 years...but I guess.
ReplyDelete"Yeah, and in the meantime: why don't you go ahead and star in this shitty movie and stay off camera for a bit."
ReplyDeleteBecause Vince thinks Roman Reigns is the breakout star of the group, and per WWE rules only one member of a team is allowed to become a big star when they break up.
ReplyDeletePeople don't buy PPV's to specially watch Dean Ambrose.
ReplyDeleteFlair.
ReplyDeleteRoman Reigns is the breakout star. He's handsome. Ambrose is hideous. Handsome sells tickets/PPVs.
ReplyDeleteThe music is fine because it elicits a pop and an immediate recognition of who's coming out, and that's all that really matters with music. It's cool when the music is actually, y'know, good. But it doesn't really matter. Austin and Rock both made pretty good careers out of generic guitar riffs, after all.
ReplyDeleteI think the story was that he was actually going to take time off, then someone changed their minds.
ReplyDeleteYou wouldn't want to see Jacob Goodnight as WWE champion?
ReplyDeleteAlso, if you compile a list of people who have been in at least TWO* closing matches of Wrestlemania, you get a really solid list of wrestling's all time greatest stars.
ReplyDelete*Eliminates Miz, Lawrence Taylor.
The conspiracy theorist in me believes that this "leaked" information about Ambrose is bullshit, and just fueling the flames of the smart marks.
ReplyDeleteSting. Biggest star to never actually APPEAR at WrestleMania.
ReplyDeleteHopefully that will change with a token match at Mania 31.
I think that's what it is. I saw it as "He beat Big Johnny's guy, so now Laurinitis will probably fire him". Really, I didn't give the promo a 2nd thought after seeing it live. Can't believe the incredible backlash it's gotten.
ReplyDeleteRocky made a speech after being beaten half to death by Drago in Rocky 4. Did that "no sell the beating" also?
Star ratings are literally the only things that matter!
ReplyDeleteCall me crazy, but I like that nickname, and why do I keep seeing people say Reigns needs to stop coming out through the crowd? How is that hurting him?
ReplyDeleteYou and I will never agree on this, I think.
ReplyDeleteThat's the funny part - dude is ELECTRIC. I'd turn him into Charles Bronson - few words, plenty of action. He'd get over.
ReplyDeleteOk, you got me. Nice troll job.
ReplyDeleteFlair is the biggest. Punk not too far behind. Luger might be another.
ReplyDeleteThat opening hook is the best they've had since Austin's glass break.
ReplyDeleteThe reasonable person in me believes most of these "reports" are total fucking nonsense.
ReplyDeleteTJ surgery now is almost an improvement for pitchers, and since he isn't throwing knuckleballs the recovery time might be shorter.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Plus there's no way to EVER prove Meltzer wrong on something like that. Ambrose doesn't shake the right hand and never goes above mid-card? See? I was right. Ambrose comes back early Monday, challenges Brock, wins at NoC. See? they weren't convinced 8/21 but changed their minds.
ReplyDeleteYou make it sound like Ambrose is jobbing to Zach Ryder. They are pushing ALL THREE Shield members very hard.
ReplyDeleteIf it is going to be a "token" match it should b against RVD... because no one is better at smoking pot than him... smoking pot is called "tokin'"... I'm just going to go back to work now.
ReplyDeleteI'm okay with Dean Ambrose not getting the rocket push yet as I enjoy the tense and teasing build as well as an agonizing rise until a climactic explosion that bursts forth into creamy main event goodness!
ReplyDeleteWhew...almost sexual, isn't it, Smithers?
Agreed. All that matters with music: get an immediate pop, set the tone for the character it's for. That quasi-engine revving opening guitar hook is terrific.
ReplyDeleteThe best faction/group in WWE history.
ReplyDeleteThe source for these types of things is always someone who doesn't make those decisions anyway. It's still bullshit even if it isn't.
ReplyDeleteNo one buys ppvs anymore at all. But if they did they absolutely would buy a show to see ambrose.
ReplyDeleteLunatic fringe! Dirty deeds! Has Vince discovered 70s cock rock? Good nicknames roll off the tongue. Dean's do not.
ReplyDeleteHis theme could be good; that rev up is a good start, kinda like Scott Norton's underrated WCW theme.
Eh, I think along the lines of "it doesn't hurt nor help him" but if he stops now, when they reunite the Shield it'd seem bigger
ReplyDeleteSo a troll is someone who disagrees with you? Typical.
ReplyDeleteI watched The Shield doc. on the network last night. It was quite good. Rollins is far more of a douche than I thought he was. Ambrose looks like he the 1990's in human form... and I enjoy how all of these docs always seem to have someone that wrestled Bryan in ROH... its like he is their official indy expert.
ReplyDeleteHow many faces in the wwe are bigger than Dean Ambrose right now? Cena and...reigns? And reigns is only bigger in the eyes of Vince, that won't last more than 6-8 months. Ambrose if a fucking giant star and if he retired today he's had a insanely successful wwe career. There is no way he's not a top 5 star for the next 4 to 6 years.
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