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Who Wrote John Cena's Segment on RAW?

Vince McMahon was the one who came up with the idea of Cena destroying the Wyatt Family. McMahon felt that since Cena's loss against Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam was so one-sided that his fans would lose faith in him unless he made an immediate statement.

Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter



RAW Segment Changed at the Last Minute

Originally, Cesaro was going to beat Swagger to become the #1 Contender to the United States Championship with Bo Dallas coming out to taunt Swagger afterwards instead of Swagger facing Rusev.

Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter



WWE Unsure About How to Present a New Stable?

It is reported that the WWE is still deciding on how to present the group of Kofi Kingston, Big E, and Xavier Woods. At one point, Mark Henry was rumored to be the leader of the group.

Credit PWInsider.com



Reason Behind NXT Wrestler's Gimmick Change

Solomon Crowe (Sami Callahan) has dropped his heel hacker gimmick and is now a babyface because HHH hated the gimmick and as a face, Callahan can emphasize is wrestling skills

Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Comments

  1. Hunter has the dumbest wrestling mind in the business.

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  2. BREAKING NEWS: The owner of the company was in charge of booking the company's top star. MORE DETAILS AFTER THIS COMMERCIAL BREAK!

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  3. I actually wonder how the creative process works. Is it just Vince telling them what to write or do they write stuff that Vince tinkers with. And, at Vince's age, isn't he stepping back a bit and let Steph and HHH be more hands on?

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  4. Dumber than Russo?

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  5. I've always heard that Vince has final say on absolutely every thing at all times. So this "news" seems more like "Vince McMahon sucks because we all hate Cena, and he's the one that made Cena look strong!" So many "news" items out there that seem like propaganda, just to stir the pot.

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  6. I feel kind of cheated we're not getting York Foundation 2.0 with this Callahan.

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  7. This is because HHH hates the internet. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULTS, PEOPLE!! Look in da mirror!

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  8. Ah, Terri's giant laptop, and Paul E's brick cell phone. Gotta love the early 90's.

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  9. I hate the internet too.

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  10. I think you are reading way too much into that. It reminds me of Conservatives crying about the mainstream media.


    Meltzer analyzed the decision and said it would have worked better either the show before Night of Champions or the RAW before that because after hyping up the beatdown and having Shawn Michaels just before that on TV Saying Cena should retire because of the beatdown, it makes little sense why they had Lesnar dominate Cena they way he did at SummerSlam

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  11. Richard Morton stuck out like a sore thumb in that group

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  12. Stranger in the AlpsAugust 28, 2014 at 7:31 AM

    I'm sorry, but the hacker gimmick was stupid. I've said in the past that it can't really translate all that well into a wrestling angle. It's a little geeky. Creative would have that guy getting destroyed every week, because hackers are viewed as big nerds.

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  13. And Norv Farnum stays?

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  14. He could have finally discovered who was in charge of G-TV.

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  15. Yeah, like I said below, I came away unimpressed when I saw it and his wrestling will get him noticed more than that

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  16. ...So how is Triple H an idiot, again? I'm kind of missing the link here.

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  17. But why would a hacker be a wrestler?

    I thought we've gotten past the point of garbagemen, dentists, and repo men moonlighting as wrestlers.

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  18. "It reminds me of Conservatives crying about the mainstream media."

    In that battle, I'm easily on the side of the conservatives.

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  19. HHH's wrestling mind is a lot greater than Russo's.

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  20. How much more can they cut? If the rumored move to Velocity is true, they might as well kill the company now instead of watching it slowly waste away on some 3am timeslot.

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  21. But Conservatives have media outlets in the mainstream. Fox News is Mainstream. Talk Radio is dominated by conservatives.


    Crying about how it is all liberal is a joke.

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  22. Watching the Unbreakable triple threat, this match is fucking flawless.

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  23. Hey, he could go undefeated for life, as he could just hack the titan tron settings to make a theme music play into each and every one of his matches. Distraction roll ups 4 life!

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  24. Without a doubt TNA's best match ever

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  25. The hacker gimmick has a ton of potential. It's confusing they would neglect a gimmick that easily plays into their emphasis on using technology within the current product.


    With so much emphasis on Twitter, you could have random, uncharacteristic tweets sent out from wrestlers, followed by removals and an apology from WWE for the malfunctions. He could hack into the WWE App and even the WWE Network at random times. The WWE official site can post bizarre news stories for a few minutes then mysteriously vanish. And this is all in the build up before he comes in.


    Once he arrives, he could be like a modern-day GTV, where he hacks into people's emails/twitters/whatever to get ahead. He could even be an anti-hero face who works to bring down the system from the inside with hacking skills ala Anonymous.

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  26. Yeah but it reminds me of that movie... no, not Hackers... Reality Bites.

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  27. Model his character after Troy. He can be a burnout gas station employee

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  28. What exactly would a wrestling hacker hack? Would he hit a button causing someone else's music to play, thus creating his own distraction roll up finish?

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  29. Sounds about right

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  30. HEY!! don't steal my thunder! I posted that about 3 minutes ago :)

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  31. Sounds like something Vince would love!

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  32. There's no way you read that in the three seconds it took you to respond. Unless of course you hacked into my computer and can see what I'm typing right now.

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  33. Yeah, it really sounds way too involved of a gimmick.

    If the audience has trouble connecting with Adam Rose, how are they going to connect with a guy whose gimmick is 50% off TV?

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  34. Cuz he dissed da hacker gimmick, which would have headlined WrestleMania, or at least the Superstars before WrestleMania

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  35. My apologies. Didn't see it. Shit gets fast and furious in this thread.

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  36. True. Petrock was a day late and a dollar short

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  37. I like it better than the triple threat at 20.

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  38. In 2005, Joe and AJ might have been the best two wrestlers in North America

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  39. Frankly, if they can produce a dirt-cheap wrestling program and still get $$$ from their international TV deals and the little $$$ from the Velocity deal, they might be better off.

    We've seen what Dixie can do with a sizable budget, and it ain't pretty.

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  40. The lesson is to hit those "three new responses" tabs.

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  41. Yes. And a valuable one at that.

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  42. It'd be a solid midcard gimmick that could lead to reasons for matches happening as opposed to 50/50 booking.

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  43. Bruce Willis vs. Mr. Glass was definitely one for the ages...

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  44. I've never seen a match that was this action packed that was also this crisp. Their timing and execution of the spots is perfect. Even the complicated stuff is pulled off without a hitch.

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  45. American talk radio, for some reason, caters well to conservatives and just doesn't to liberals. And then a bunch of assholes tried to install a "fairness doctrine" so that liberal talk radio would get equal airtime despite having lower ratings.

    For your television, Fox News was kind of concocted out of a niche precisely because Western media's news (if you can even call it that nowadays, it's more idiotic editorialist, agenda-driven horseshit on either side) is just intrinsically slanted to the left. Fox News gets such great ratings evidently because they're really the only medium that's for right-wingers.

    That's not the point though; the point is that the media is repugnant, ratings-driven horseshit and several anchors should be publicly hung. I mean... come on. I thought the media here was bad.

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  46. The finish was flawless too.

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  47. Can we just retire this "50/50 booking" thing? I mean I know it can be a problem, but geeze, it's basically lost all meaning by now. Yes, some mid carders will trade wins because there are 5 to 7 hours of free TV to fill every week. IT HAPPENS.

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  48. I speed-read.

    Hey, that sounds like a good idea for a wrestler!

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  49. No, it sounds like something like Fandango or Adam Rose, which Vince will get tired of after two weeks.

    I think history has proven that the further away we get from "Let's have a match because we hate each other", the stupider wrestling gets.

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  50. I agree the media is complete shit and only about ratings and sensationalism.

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  51. Yeah but when that's the only reason they're wrestling in order to lead to a blowoff, it's pointless. Now if the matches were actually good, it could lead somewhere. That can easily get guys over. But they have the same guys wrestling the same matches week after week leading to nowhere.

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  52. Wes Quickpage, pro wrestler and speed reader

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  53. I'm sure he could read Vince's RAW scripts on napkins in roughly 8 seconds.

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  54. They should have re-hired the Sandman, and teamed up the hacker guy with Hardcore Hak.

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  55. ...So what are we waiting for? Let's go slaughter a couple of 'em.

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  56. Of course, if you ask any of the actual participants, they'll all say it should have been even better, but Joe lost track and went home 10 minutes early. I wonder if that's true or if they're just trying to work people for their own amusement.

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  57. The only 50/50 stuff that is terrible is when it is the upper midcard guys. Guys like R-Truth, Fandango, Rose, Sandow, Slater and the others are made to trade wins. However, guys like Cesaro, Barrett, Ziggler, and others who are more popular should not be.

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  58. I love that torture rack spot, and the way AJ transitions into Styles Clash. Although trying to claim Joe was still undefeated at that point is some bullshit.

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  59. Tough decision on who to target first though.

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  60. Hack-saw Ted Muggin

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  61. Part of me kind of wishes HHH would go heel on the internet and sign every beloved Indy wrestler and give them horrible mid-90s gimmicks. Adam "The Hog Farmer" Cole, anyone?

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  62. Impact's YouTube channel is pretty great, they have a ton of full length classics on there. What are some other great TNA matches? I can probably find it there.

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  63. Mike "The Dumpster" Elgin

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  64. Keith fucking Olbermann.

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  65. Alexandra York and Robin Green slowly introduced a young parallax to the idea that girls may in fact NOT be yucky creatures that have cooties.

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  66. Bobby Fish - Dresses in a Fish Costume

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  67. Sean Hannity too.

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  68. Kevin Steen - Personal trainer

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  69. The Love-Matic Grampa!August 28, 2014 at 7:50 AM

    It's one thing for Fandango and Adam Rose to trade wins, because really who gives a shit? And main eventers like Cena and Orton trading wins is also fine (if not monotonous). But when it's a guy you legitimately want to push, simply trading wins with another guy on his level doesn't elevate him. He needs to win the feud definitively and move up the ladder.

    In other words, it's not the concept itself. It's how the concept is applied.

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  70. Then they became Marlena & Woman and you were like... "Penis, I wasn't so sure about you... but you were right!"

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  71. Missy Hyatt would have made you go back to the thinking that girls have cooties.

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  72. Oh, he's nowhere near as bad as Bill O'Reilly.

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  73. Maybe I just romaticize hackers a little too much, ok?

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  74. Somebody should take the name "Bone Sold" Reed Austin.

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  75. Humpin' Him Brunzell.

    Sorry

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  76. I think the hacker gimmick is a good idea, Hunter obvs doesn't, so just a disagreement on ideas, I guess.

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  77. Glenn Beck is the worse. No one will even hire him on the networks anymore.

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  78. You really are stuck in 1995. Hackers, Shane Douglas, what else? Fanny packs? Stone Temple Pilots?

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  79. The fact that news divisions are thinking about ratings is the #1 problem.

    And the Fairness Doctrine was an excellent idea.

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  80. Oh, him. Isn't he making like $100 mil a year now?

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  81. Fanny packs are a fashion statement for all years.

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  82. She didn't really do it for me for whatever reason. Medusa Miceli did though.

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  83. Gay porn star gimmick?

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  84. Absolutely. Teri would still get it... and prior to her death Woman could have also

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  85. #what #itsforcharity



    http://i.imgur.com/mHDnmM8.gif

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  86. He has his own media thing.


    Alex Jones is another idiot.

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  87. No its one of the most offensive things about the current product.

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  88. How? Apparently hippies and idealistic college kids don't listen to the radio, so it made no difference. And what, you're supposed to tell broadcasting companies what you can and can't play and how much of what can be aired? I thought this was 'Murica!

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  89. ok, looks like his head was literally falling off.

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  90. TNA's YouTube channel as the full match in hd.

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  91. Alex Jones is the worst. anyone that believes in all of that conspiracy nonsense is a criminal in how detrimental they are to our society.

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  92. Where is Laughing Sting when you need him

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  93. He's not even mainstream media though. He's just a brilliant marketing kook.

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  94. And then that does happen, like with Reigns now, and Sheamus in the past, then "WWE is shoving them down our throats".

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  95. Robin Quivers kinda tore him apart when he was on Howard Stern.

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  96. If one loss is all it takes to make the fans lose faith in a guy who's won every important match and feud he's had in the past 10+ years...

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  97. Obamacare made his gimmick obsolete.

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  98. The Love-Matic Grampa!August 28, 2014 at 7:56 AM

    McMahon felt that since Cena's loss against Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam
    was so one-sided that his fans would lose faith in him unless he made an
    immediate statement.


    So after ten-plus years of dominance, Vince thought kids would give up on Cena after ONE LOSS? Wow.

    I gotta say, with Sweeps and the Christmas season rapidly approaching, I'm thinking Cena gets the belt back at NOC. WWE is clearly too gun-shy at this point to move away from the safer Cena option.

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  99. I should be on the side of the mainstream media? The people driven by ratings?

    "The fact that news divisions are thinking about ratings is the #1 problem."

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  100. Right speech is more important than free speech. The people that listen to talk radio take what they hear and supplant their own thoughts with it... if they heard something balanced then they would either turn it off or at least suck in some of the good along with the bad.

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  101. Kurt Angle is not impressed.

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  102. I didn't look very hard, but I couldn't find any information as to whether he died or not.

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  103. Everyone should literally tear him, and people that think like him apart. I probably shouldn't get started on this subject I get very agitated and end up losing friends when I find out they think incorrectly.

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  104. The Love-Matic Grampa!August 28, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    My first thought was that his neck had to be broken...

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  105. Angle-Joe in a cage.

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  106. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 28, 2014 at 7:58 AM

    ...ow.

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  107. This is the personification of a smarky post.

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  108. Ki vs. Lynn vs. Styles triple threat ladder match is sweet


    Teddy Hart vs. Juvy from the Super X Cup in 2003. Also, Sabin vs. Juvy from that same show

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  109. You're probably right. A lot of people here are fuming at the thought of Cena winning the belt and I see no reason why we should expect anything different.

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  110. "Right speech is more important than free speech."

    And you determine what ideas and beliefs are correct?

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  111. The Love-Matic Grampa!August 28, 2014 at 7:59 AM

    Well, as you said, sometimes WWE can't win.

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  112. Vince lives on a very different planet than the rest of the world....

    And big LOL about "how to present the stable."

    Vince: THEY'RE BLACK, THEY HAVE TO TEAM UP, RIGHT?

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  113. I read this post before I read the rest of the conversation and interpreted your position incorrectly... basically I didn't see past "I'm easily on the side of the conservatives"

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  114. Its sad that people think he is legit.

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  115. Many people predicted Lesnar>Cena at Summerslam followed by Cena winning at NOC before Summerslam took place. But after that squash, the idea of Lesnar losing his very next match is completely unfeasible.

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  116. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 28, 2014 at 8:01 AM

    How about a group that tired of the buffoonery and wants to be treated serious? Which means Woods needs a DRASTIC makeover.

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  117. Conspiracy is big business. It is religion for the non religious. It is a good one too because you can never be proven wrong... any evidence that does prove you wrong was just planted there to throw people off!

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  118. I really don't get the hate for Cena winning last Monday. He had already won the feud against the Wyatts, so it really doesn't hurt them more (they're still relatively new, and the veteran Cena simply has their number at this point. No worries).

    Also, if they make Cena look above everyone else... And he STILL can't even come close to beating Brock at NOC... That makes Brock the biggest and most dominant monster in history. So who ever beats him at WM or whenever is officially MADE. I just see no problem with this. Had Wyatt won the feud 3 months ago, or had he beaten Cena last monday, then Brock beating Cena doesn't seem like that much of a big deal.

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  119. God the wwe is such an unwatchable dumpster fire on a week to week basis. They make a stable, then never mention it again, have to guys wrestle on TV separately without bringing it up, now want to bring it back and they will wonder why its not over?

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  120. Here is Teddy Hart vs. Juvy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxz0KryOR4Y

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  121. Oh, I liked Missy.

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  122. Yeah, it probably is. It was also a little over the top too.

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  123. The "bitchy" thing started very early...

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  124. R-Truth would be way too buffoonish for the New Nation.

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  125. The ironic part is that by trying to respond to that article about racial diversity they accidentally removed every black wrestler from television.

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  126. You know I never thought about it before but that is evidenced even here... I should really talk to a professional about this.

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  127. Yes, but your bias is showing. ;)

    What sickens me are people who lean way over to one side or the other. It doesn't matter. I think I'd get labelled as a libertarian, except libertarianism in America or most other places would never work because its representatives or spokesmen are mostly conspiracy-believing lunatics (Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura, etc).

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  128. The Love-Matic Grampa!August 28, 2014 at 8:03 AM

    Michael Hayes:...right. "Accidentally".

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  129. Before I even typed it, I knew that was coming.

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  130. Why even put Wyatt in that match if the whole point is for Cena to dominate someone? Why not put someone that is legit, but is not a potential future star there?

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  131. And they have THREE HOURS.

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  132. Eh, teens are very resilient.

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  133. I watched the cage match yesterday. One of my favorite matches.

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  134. Why have HBK say that Cena should retire instead of wrestle Brock on the same show when Cena destroyed an entire stable. Why even bother having Lesnar win the way he did if this was going to happen eight days later?

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  135. I guess they could have put in Los Matatores, or Heath Slater and Sandow, but it wouldn't have meant all that much, eh? If they book the Wyatts strong in the future, this won't matter. Cena himself had tons of clean jobs in his first 2 years.

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  136. It wasn't him doing it to Bray that was the problem, it's that the idea was fucking stupid and it was poorly executed.

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  137. The Love-Matic Grampa!August 28, 2014 at 8:06 AM

    Didn't bother me, because Wyatt is going nowhere until they overhaul the gimmick. And this is nothing new for WWE, the top babyface beating some midcarders to establish his dominance before a big match. People are just getting aggravated for the sake of getting aggravated.

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  138. Because Brock > the entire stable?

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  139. I gave it some thought, and ultimately... I want Brock as champ until WM32 or so, not 31. For The Streak to mean anything, and for the title to regain some legitimacy, have Brock break Punk's record and be WWE's version of a final boss from a video game.

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  140. I am bias... but I have correct views so it is perfectly acceptable to be bias. I am not going to pretend to be unbiased when one side is insane, just so I can seem deliberative.

    I don't understand why picking a side is always deemed as such a bad thing. Life is not always 50/50 booking. Sometimes one thing is wrong and one thing is right. Not everything has merit and, after consideration still deserves equal consideration.

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  141. here is the ladder match from Ki/Lynn/Styles


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCSHPWH8d90

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  142. Exactly. It's like, Cena is NEVER allowed to win or something. I don't get it.

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  143. If you're a black kid right now, why would you possibly watch Raw? Who do you root for?

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  144. I was thinking someone like Big E or Mark Henry... who Cena could easily make look like a beast... then overcome him.

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  145. I agree with Meltzer. This match should have happened in two weeks.


    Wyatt Family needs to be retooled anyway so I dont care that they were the victims. Talk about a stale gimmick going nowhere

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  146. Do you think Obama's a good president?

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  147. Did they drop the stable after the Ferguson? I could see them wanting to back off of a stable of angry black people after a major race situation occurs.

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  148. Wouldn't that bury them too?



    I mean, Cena and the Wyatts have a history. So it made perfect sense. Really, it did.

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  149. Didn't bother me because 1. I didn't watch that crap and 2. I hate the Wyatt's so anything that hurts them and their heat in the long run is A OK with me.

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  150. Who cares if it buries them? They are never going to be anything more than they are now anyway. (That kind of sounded racist considering who I picked)

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  151. I would be fine with that. And every title defense will be a HUGE deal, cause there's always the "risk" that he'll take a leave of absence after. So "challenger of the month" *HAS* to win the title RIGHT NOW.

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  152. Yep, don't blame them at all for having 2nd thoughts. That was out of their control.

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  153. As of now I think Brock's contract expires after 31.

    Regardless, an extended Brock run (at least to 31) is a perfect way to elevate the IC and/or US titles into something meaningful. Just give Heyman the stick and he can talk about how a wrestler has to prove they are worthy of a match with Brock before Brock is going to offer them a title shot.

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  154. He's not FDR or Lincoln. He has done some good things and made some improvements and he has done questionable things. He hasn't been able to get much done with the congress he has had. He isn't nearly as bad as he gets heat for. He probably ranks somewhere in the middle of the 44 in successful presidencies.

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  155. The only thing that hurt it for me was that it was only a week removed from Cena getting squashed for the title. I thought he would've been kept out of the ring a week or two longer to sell the SS match with Brock.

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  156. Totally did. Really, it did. Really. No lie.

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  157. Precisely.

    Even if Roman Reigns has to be the guy, it would have such a larger impact if he was finally the guy to beat Brock after he had dominated with the championship for like, 16 months or whatever. Doing it at the next WrestleMania feels so telegraphed to me.

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  158. Re: How to do the Kofi/E/Woods angle.

    Have those three recruit all the other black wrestlers (Henry, R-Truth, Titus) in a way that makes a new Nation look imminent. Than have them all solemnly march down to the ring in suits. Finally they all line up arm in arm around Woods who grabs a mic.

    All of a sudden "Somebody Call My Mama" starts playing and Woods screams it's time to Get Down!

    Than everybody starts dancing.

    I think this could work...

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  159. The Love-Matic Grampa!August 28, 2014 at 8:13 AM

    I assume that Kofi/E/Woods are the "jobber stable" replacement for 3MB? Because I can't see them getting a major push.

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  160. That is my problem with the thing. It makes what they did at SummerSlam seem ridiculous.


    RAW was a terrible show this past week, IMO

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  161. The Love-Matic Grampa!August 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM

    Vince: I like the way this guy thinks!

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  162. Decided to go with Lethal Lockdown 2007.

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  163. Especially if WWE is trying to think of who is going to be the next Cena (their money is on Reigns). Cena is already at the top of the mountain. He doesn't need to beat the guy who beat the Undertaker.

    Cena is banged up, overexposed, and starting to look toward Hollywood (and even if he just gets one or two roles a year, that still leaves a hole in WWE's shows for a bit). They need Brock's next loss to build up a new guy, not Cena. The new guy beats Brock, and then can later also beat Cena.

    But this is WWE, which means Brock will probably lose at NOC.

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  164. Maybe on a "workrate/moveset" scale, but Shawn Michaels was pretty darn untouchable for his entire second run...

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  165. That sucks for Big E; dude was in line to be one of their top guns and now he'll be a JTTS.

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  166. Punk will be so happy that a part timer breaks his modern day title reign.

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  167. Those YouTube advertising pennies are what's keeping the lights on at TNA Headquarters!

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  168. TNA has a great archive selection on their YouTube channel

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  169. Michael Hayes: "Hey, I'm banging some sort of Mexican chick, I can't POSSIBLY be racist!"

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  170. We talked about this yesterday, he wasn't run over by a semi truck while trapped in an ambulance. He wasn't dropped from 40 ft while trapped in a car. He just got beaten up in a wrestling match. 8 days is just fine.

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  171. Fair enough. As an outsider, he comes across to me as someone who is a very slick talker, yet I believe nothing of what he says, whether he's lying about it or doesn't know what he's talking about. He's not a blunderer like the last Bush, but by golly he's no Bill Clinton.

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  172. Cool. Will have to check it out... of course January 1 their whole company will be an archive!

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  173. TNA's official YouTube channel.

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  174. ha! didn't even think of that. But Big E is just as new as Wyatt, so I would disagree with that.

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  175. Take away the distraction of Monica-gate, and Bill Clinton is one of the top 10 Presidents of all time.

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  176. Lol remember when Tomko was a half decent wrestler for a minute?

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  177. Cena, silly. It's who ALL the cool kids are rooting for.

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  178. Drugs did him in

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  179. He would make a fantastic wrestling manager. That was going to be my answer to the question of "What celebrity would be great in wrestling" but Meekin fucked it up because... well it is Meekin.

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  180. Just as new yes... but they clearly give more of a shit about Wyatt than they do Big E.

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  181. Meekin is the William Taft of wrestling journalism.

    Fat joke.

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  182. Underrated TNA Match


    Samoa Joe vs. Rhyno vs. Monty Brown at 2006 Hardcore Justice in a Falls Count Anywhere Match. Love Joe's promo after the match too

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  183. Another reason to bring in Russo to help with the midcard: He would have PLENTY of ideas for the stable of Woods, Big E, and Kofi.

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  184. Anohter Reason: Bringing in Russo has never worked out poorly for a wrestling organization.

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  185. Hmmm....one solid minute seems long. How 'bout 30 seconds?

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  186. It's hard to say who the top ten is from a list that has a span over such a long time though. Who's to say that Abe Lincoln wouldn't be a John Kerry-esque moron today, or that George Bush wouldn't kick ass way back when?

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  187. Woah, TNA actually drew 6k for this show? Impressive.

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