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QOTD #51: More comedic genius

Today's Question: Sticking with the humor for one more day.....What were your funniest 3 (in order) "Chappelle Show" skits?

Yesterday's Question: With the untimely passing of Robin Williams, having met his untimely demise, today's question is: Of all the comedians that are no longer with us, whose comedy do you consider the greatest?



  
grizzlybear:Hicks, Pryor, Carlin.

Reading down the thread there are lots of decent suggestions but those three were transformative comedians and should be remembered as much more than men who stood up and made you laugh.

Sweet Lee:
I wonder if the almighty will swing a trade...you give us Kinison back and we will gladly give you Dane Cook and Kevin Hart.

I know I said this, and I mean absolutely no disrespect to Sam Kinison, but Dane Cook and Kevin Hart? Have you gone mad??????

TheGrailspiral:
Hope someone already mentioned Patrice O'Neil. Dude was hilarious in standup, roasts, and as a regular on Opie and Anthony. Loved the guy. George Carlin's early stuff is just amazing too.

LJFCAT:
Oh, and as for comedians... I've never been huge into stand up, but anytime I watch Dave Chappelle I'm practically in tears ("bitch, I live in a fucking trash can!" *did* induce tears). Definitely my favorite, out of those I watched. I love Robin Williams and was CRUSHED by his passing, but for many other reasons - I've seen little of his stand up.


I think I probably should have clarified what I meant by "Gone too soon". Fortunately, Dave hasn't gone anywhere but Africa, with his crazy ass (and if you like Chappelle, you'll like tomorrow's topic).

THE YETAAAAY:
While not my all-time favorite, Lenny Bruce should get some recognition. Like with Carlin, I don't find myself laughing at his humor for minutes at a time but I feel incredibly educated by it. Bruce did a shitload for free speech in this country as far as entertainers are concerned.

As for Carlin, the shelf-life for anyone in a mass-marketed medium is growing smaller by the day. With the overexposure of internet, social media, tabloids and television, the general public is growing tired of entertainers much more rapidly. That's why I think a guy like Carlin will never come along again, who can evolve and adapt for over two generations.


X-Man:
Pryor and Carlin are my all-time two favorites hands down. Pryor was the saddest since MS robbed him of the ability to do standup in his last days. Carlin was able to perform up until the week before he died.

I was also a big fan of Robin Harris & Bernie Mac.. two Chicago comedians with the ability to make people laugh without even telling jokes. Very similar styles and even thought Bernie achieved greater success, they both died way too soon.

Marv Cresto:
For me this conversation begins and ends with Sam.

The man was a lightning bolt wrapped in flesh, no one was as funny, as quick, or as surprising as Sam Kinison. "Go to where the food is" is one of the funniest bits of all time as far as I'm concerned. The tragedy is that when he was killed in a car wreck he had allegedly been sober for quite some time and was finally getting his life together, had he remained alive we never would have heard of Lewis Black.

HM's to Hedberg and especially Patrice O'Neal, there are hours and hours and hours of YouTube videos up of Patrice on the O&A show where he talks, by himself basically, for entire hours at a clip and it never for a second stops being uproariously funny.

How ironic that he used to be a writer for RAW!

The Polish Hammer:
Another vote here for Bill Hicks. His stand-up special "Revelations" is still one of the top 3 stand-up performances of all time to me.
(Insert mandatory rant hating Denis Leary for stealing his material)

The Fuj:
Who is no longer with us?

Bernie Mac: The KING of Comedy.

He was a fucking genius at observational humor. He could take anything and make it hilarious.

I think to anybody who watched Def Comedy Jam in the 1990s, the clip below is the 3 of the funniest 6 minutes in the history of the show. Kick iiiiiit!


Jared Bellow:
Though I love Bill Hicks' rants and how ahead of his time he was, even in his personal life (his story about being a 30 year old man checking out Sonic The Hedgehog and Porno from the video store putting him in the realm of a creep, now video games and porn are the mainstream) - as some have pointed out he was a bit more in the realm of a political performance artist than a comic. He sadly predicted our political and intellectual decline. The "readin'" bit pretty much sums it up.

I would still say Richard Pryor is the best answer to this. He was "taken away" by his illness years before he died, and before that by a terrible, ill advised misadventure into mostly bad films. Pryor really got both down the soul bearing, personal side of comedy while being fucking hilarious. That he turned his very public incident with being caught on fire freebasing into one of the funniest routines of all time shows his depth and really exposes current comics outside of some of the more special
 talents like Louis CK and Patton Oswalt for how shallow they really are.

Bill Hicks is getting a lot of love from the blog! I have to admit - despite being from the same hometown (Little Rock, Arkansas), I'm not all that familiar with his work. I didn't know who he was until the Letterman controversy, but other than Richard Pryor, Bernie Mac,  or George Carlin, he - by far - got the most responses.

Of course, the Godfather of Comedy hands down is Richard Pryor. No disrespect to Bernie Mac, Sam Kinison, George Carlin, Bill Hicks, or the very underrated Patrice O'Neal, but Richard Pryor is the greatest comedian of all-time.



There's a popular saying that I believe Richard Pryor is very fond of saying: every comedian is funny to mask the pain - he alludes to this briefly here. I can't help but think of this idea continually as we get more and more details on Robin Williams death.

One name I can't leave without mentioning - a lot of people may not have heard of him, but I believe X-Man alluded to him: The guy who would have been the funniest comedian of the 1990s - by far was Robin Harris. It's a shame he passed away in 1990 at 36 just when he was beginning to blow up.

Robin Williams said recently when asked what he thinks heaven is like "I hope a lot of humor." Hopefully, he's contributing to that cause as we speak. Robin Harris, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Sam Kinison, Bernie Mac, Lenny Bruce, Freddie Prinze Sr. AND Robin Williams - 

May they all rest in eternal peace.

Comments

  1. More amazing to me: not only did they run this show in a high school gym, but they ran a 2nd taping for Wrestling Challenge the following night IN THE SAME GYM.

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  2. I am of the opinion that even if you put Tatanka in the Million Dollar suit he still would have been terrible. The stench of the Million Dollar Corporation and his overall lack of charisma without a built in character like "Native American Tatanka" is my reasoning.

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  3. You know, to be fair we ridicule TNA for running middle school gyms.

    Of course, TNA can't even fill the gym with fans: http://www.wzronline.com/wp-content/gallery/tna-high-school-gym/tna-gym.jpg

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  4. Different time as well. The fans weren't as quite conditioned for BIG WEEKLY WRESTLING SHOW.

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  5. Yep, and 90% of his offense seemed to be of the "babyface comeback" variety, which he was very good at. Take that away, and... There is nothing left.

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  6. I have a "Forbidden" error message. Even Firefox is protecting TNA from embarrassment!

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  7. These are obviously going to get repeated several times:
    1. True Hollywood Stories: Rick James
    2. Frontline: Clayton Bigsby
    3. Wayne Brady

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  8. Agreed. And while wrestling is ice cold right now, it was nearly absolute zero in December 1994.

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  9. What if Lex Luger had actually sold out, could he have been a better fit for the MDC?

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  10. Basically, anyone could have been a successful member of the Corporation... IF THEY WON MATCHES. But they just never did.

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  11. The Real World with the race roles reversed.

    "Gimme a philly blunt son"
    "And a banana cognac bitoch!"

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  12. You'll get a bunch that are all the same: Rick James, Wayne Brady, Racial Draft, Making the Band, because they are all awesome.
    But goddamn if Samuel Jackson Beer isn't one of the funniest things I ever saw.

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  13. 1.Rick James ("nice place N*gga) cracks me up everytime.

    2.Prince

    3.Wayne Brady/Hater Ball

    HM: Everything else.

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  14. You'll be fucking fat bitches in no time!
    MMMMM-bitch!

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  15. Oh man, I forgot about Robin Harris.

    He was hilarious in House Party.

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  16. Can we remove this guy's posting privileges until he FINALLY LEARNS PAGE BREAKS? Like seriously, literally every day. It's the only way he'll learn.

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  17. I think the Prince episode gets overshadowed by the Rick James one, understandably so, but it was really fucking funny in its own right.

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  18. 1. Prince
    2. Rick James
    3. Worlds series of dice
    So many more.

    - making the band
    - cribs
    - Tyson bigsby
    - Wayne Brady
    - wrap it up

    The list goes on and on.

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  19. 5 greatest rappers of all time:
    1. Dylan
    2. Dylan
    3. Dylan
    4. Dylan
    5. Dylan

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  20. I can't be quiet, that's the way I talk. Haven't you seen any of my movies?!

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  21. You go upstairs and put some lotion on right now!

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  22. Juice!
    Deep Blue Sea!?


    A fish ate me, AFUCKINGFISH ATE ME!!! Drink bitch!

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  23. "I smell your lightsaber."

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  24. Guh guh guh guh Get yo ass out this car and if anybody come up to you, tell Leonard Washington sent you, and he made it out.


    Sell crack... something i forget. shit was funny as fuck

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  25. She's got underwears with dick holes in them.

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  26. Cribs was hilarious.


    "i spread diamonds on all my food cuz its the most balling-ist shit you can ever do... plus it make my dookie twinkle BALLLLLLAAAAA!!!"

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  27. Why are you yelling at me?
    That's the way I talk! Haven't you seen my movies?
    Deep Blue Sea! They ate me! A muthafuckin shark ate me!

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  28. Goddamn I love that. DYLAN SPIT HOT FIRE

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  29. Wayne Brady is such a brilliant parody, Brady deserves a lot of credit for going along with it.

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  30. "...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack."

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  31. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 13, 2014 at 7:24 AM

    "YOU'RE TOO CLOSE, MON!!!"

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  32. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 13, 2014 at 7:26 AM

    A forgotten gem is the are the racist animals sketch.
    "You called him Flipper. I knew him as James, the n*gger hatin' dolphin."

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  33. You gotta diversify your bonds, nigga.

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  34. The Flair and Bret title switches happened at TV tapings, and in Flair's case, aired on Prime Time Wrestling.

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  35. Another one I liked was when they were in a barbershop and John Mayer started playing his guitar to no one's amusement. Then the dude from the Roots (?uest Love I think) plays the drums and everyone starts dancing.

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  36. According to History of WWE, the first Diesel-Backlund rematch wasn't until 12/8/94. They had further rematches 12/9, 12/10, and 12/11. This RAW was taped 12/12.

    So really, four shows worth of rematches probably wouldn't give them a large enough sample to pull the plug on the feud at that point.

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  37. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 13, 2014 at 7:33 AM

    The Kneehigh Park skit with the puppets.

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  38. White people love Wayne Brady because he makes Brian Gumbel look like Malcolm X.

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  39. Not before the barber says "Hey... SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

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  40. What was the greatest American sketch show ever, Chappelle's Show or Mr. Show?

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  41. "Why do black people like to smoke weed so much?"

    "I gotta question for you n*gga, where are your teeth N*gga... .... .... and dont ask me, Ask Bobby and Whitney"

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  42. Chappelle.


    Mr. Show had its moments, Dave was consistantly funny throughout.

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  43. Wife Swap was awesome too.

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  44. Loved Mr. Show but I think Chappelle had many more iconic skits. Maybe Show more consistently better but Chappelle with higher highs?

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  45. You better wrap that gavel up, B.

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  46. The Pop Copy sketch is one of my favorites too.

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  47. You gotta say this about Dave Chappelle, even if I do think he's crazy as shit: he did what nobody here would do - ever ever ever - and allegedly turned down $40 million. For what reason, I never understood.

    Oh and Half Baked is still one of the best comedies of all time. Highly underrated.

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  48. Nash was a better worker in 95-96 than HHH in 2003.

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  49. Goes back to the point you made above that they LOST EVERYTHING. I can't think of a meaningful match the MDC won outside of Tatanka turning on Luger at Summerslam but that wasn't necessarily a blow off match as a set up for turning Tatanka.

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  50. The Player Haters Ball is the funniest thing I've ever seen.

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  51. Why? Why treat the customer this way?

    Why? 'Cuz fuck em, that's why.

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  52. I'll say black real world and making the band to round out the top 3. His puffy impression was hilarious.

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  53. They never aired the Bret one outside of Coliseum Video. Might as well have been a house show.

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  54. He could have played the dad in 100 black comedies. He rules in that role

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  55. Rick James
    Prince
    Player Haters-when they go back in time

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  56. Actual Rick James: Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and grind my feet on somebody's couch like its something to do? Come on. I've got a little more sense than that.
    *pause*
    Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Eddies couch.

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  57. Cocaine's a helluva drug.

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  58. I must be crazy! Charlie Murphy talkin bout kickin MYYYY ass

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  59. I couldn't remember the first one cuz he goes


    "Juice, that's a good one..." then into Deep blue Sea.




    "Good Motherfucking Choice, Motherfucker!!"

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  60. Paul Mooney is the most underrated comedian in the history of comedy

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  61. Rick James - Darkness! Fuck yo couch, N!%%a!
    Prince
    When Keepin it Real Goes Wrong

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  62. The outtakes version......"Oops pow surpriiiiise....OHHHH!"

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  63. Hard to narrow down to 3

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  64. That commercial break gets me every time "Chappelle Show will be right back....with mo mad real world....beeyotch"

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  65. If you need some money, sell rock, that's what I hear they do around here.


    "Bitch, I'll never forgive you for this... get your ass in the car"

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  66. The show was great and all but I don't think the answers are going to be particularly varied here.

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  67. When he breaks the dinosaur egg open I fucking lose it every time.

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  68. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L104LViQeIw is my favourite Chappelle sketch.

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  69. "Hell yeah I suck toes! Welcome to PopCopy, may i help you?"


    "My butt itch and i took a shower... Can I help you?"

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  70. So, I make Bryant Gumble look like Malcom X huh mother fucker?


    IT WAS MOONEY!!!

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  71. This is one of the funniest things i've ever seen.


    His denial and use of logic and then, "yeah I did"


    Fuck yo couch.

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  72. Time-Out:

    Why is this page-break shit so serious?

    Why not not clicking on the link?

    Or stfu and let him find his groove?

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  73. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 13, 2014 at 8:32 AM

    "Follow the drip, follow the drip."

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  74. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 13, 2014 at 8:33 AM

    What makes the episode even funnier is that Tavis Smiley asked Prince about it during an interview and he confirmed it.

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  75. I never understood the caring. I reserve my disdain for the Meekins of this world.

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  76. 1. The blind KKK leader
    2. Racist animals in Hollywood
    3. Classic Hook-Up Moments: hole in the bottom of the popcorn bucket.

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  77. I'd kinda like to see a modern day Allied Powers team of Swagger and Barrett. Both guys can genuinely kick ass and their patriotism a common bond I think they would make a damn good face team.

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  78. I don't much care for any sketch comedy, but you could make an argument for SNL

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  79. 4-stars with Taker? To each his own, but Mania 12 tops out at 3-stars on even the most generous scales. I'd give it a solid **1/2 and note how two workers we were conditioned to seeing in bad matches pulled a good match out of their ass.

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  80. Rick James and Price are the obvious 1 and 2. I'll go with Making the Band for 3. 'Because I spit hot fiyah'

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  81. Tune in tomorrow when he forgets it yet again, and I mention it yet again.

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  82. "Why is this page-break shit so serious?" - Because it is annoying that it covers the entire front page.

    "Why not not clicking on the link?" - This is a pretty dumb question since there is no link to click on. See the answer above.

    "Or stfu and let him find his groove?" - See the answer to the first question.

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  83. I don't think SNL even comes close to the discussion. How many SNL sketches were actually funny, like, 15% of them? And that's discounting the (many) bad years.

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  84. 1. Prince
    2. Rick James
    3. Bigsby

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  85. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 13, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    "How do you think I got THIS?!?! (pointing to the cold sore on his lip.)

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  86. I still laugh my ass off at that, even though I know what's coming

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  87. SNL is like wrestling: because so much of it is carny-ish, not funny, and nonsensical, that 15% stands out a LOT. I think that's why SNL relies so heavily on their "Best of" packages It highlights the "comedic genius" while ignoring the 85% garbage

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  88. Best part of that whole sketch:
    "Yeah yeah yeah.....excuse me sista, I gotta go take a sh*t"

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  89. ....and a banana cognac, bitch

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  90. 1. The gay landscaper dancing with the mower to ass and titties. I lose my shit.
    2. Trading Spouses (which was an over the top scenario Chapelle didn't think would exist in the real world, so of course almost instantly it became a real show)
    3. The Player Hater's Ball - Buck Nasty, you so dark that when you touch yourself it's like black on black crime.

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  91. Chappelle himself hates Half Baked. He said they took it away and re-edited it and mangled it. It's amazing it's as funny as it is. He said they turned it into a "Stoner comedy for children."

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  92. Man... stop bitching.

    All you is come through on his threads and bitch.

    Shut the fuck up and let him do what he do. Let him find his voice and his format without coming off like a damn bitch...

    Or you could do it better after he is done...

    Otherwise stfu.

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  93. Man the herpes puppet just makes me want to vomit.

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  94. I think Mr. Show had a better hit rate than Chappelle's Show. Plus it didn't break out the same way so it has a little bit more of an inside joke appeal to it even though the principles are as big as Chappelle now. Just the other day buying Pumpkin Beer all I could think about is "It's pumpkininny!'

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  95. It takes up a lot of room on the main page, pushing down columns below it.

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  96. I think he's a great writer but he looks noticeably uncomfortable on stage which docks him some points. Same reason why i didn't bring up Hedberg on the comics taken too soon list.

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  97. It's all good, do you. Eventually you will find a style that compliments what you are trying to accomplish.


    Constructive criticism is one thing, but snide-ass remarks under the veil of trying to be funny is another. It's bitch shit. That's how hoes act.


    I'm tired of reading that shit. Since nobody gonna speak on it, fuck it, I will.

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  98. I'll probably try it both ways and see which one looks better. Besides parallelogram, or whatever that guy's name is, I don't think its that important to too many people

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  99. "Go back to NPP"


    You even replying like a bitch now.


    No 35+ year old boy should be acting like a bully on a wrestling blog.

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  100. At least 4 people have mentioned it in this thread

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  101. I appreciate it....feel free to speak your mind.

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  102. The Racial Draft

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  103. lol, No thanks.


    That's all you got? Troll harder homeboy.

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  104. "Troll harder homeboy."

    lol, No thanks.

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  105. "feel free to speak your mind, unless it is criticism I don't want to hear"

    FTFY

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  106. I'm gonna go a little against the grain, and NOT mention Prince or Rick James - they were good, but I don't think they were the best skits of the show. I'll go with:

    1) Piss On You
    2) Pop Copy
    3) Wayne Brady

    ... but it's so hard to narrow it down. "Mad Real World" and "Clayton Bigsby" should be on there, too. Yes, my Top 3 should somehow encompass five entries.

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  107. If all you do is bitch, whine and complain.... and give us witty retorts like "pick some cotton", then you're correct. I don't care what you have to say.

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  108. Understandable (though not an accurate assessment of what I do, but since you are letting Fuj think for you I will forgive it) but what about the numerous others that have brought it up?

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  109. '....I rip and I rhyme....I rhyme and I rip...'

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  110. Look jackass, I said I would try it both ways. What else do you want?

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  111. "What else do you want?"

    To realize that no one else does it without a page break just do it.

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  112. But he could have broken his leg sooner than 2001.

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  113. I liked the Deliverance-era Henry Godwinn. He looked like a redneck killer with no sense of humor. And he was really, really strong. If they'd started with that version of the character, it might've worked.

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  114. They should just make their house shows high school assemblies that the students have to attend.

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  115. I really had no opinion of Kwang but I hated Savio Vega.

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  116. The Latin sensation sweeping the nation!

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  117. I actually liked the Godwins as heels. And Southern Justice.

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  118. When did Hogan call him Papa Shango? on TV?

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  119. Backstage when Hulk returned in 2002. In Hulk's defense, he was making an effort to be one of the boys.

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  120. He was filming Lonesome Dove, an acting performance that Robert De Niro called one of the greatest of all time.

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  121. from American Dad
    Steve: We don't work blue, that's the lazy man's comedy!
    Snot: BALLS!
    Steve: heh heh maybe we've been working too hard.

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  122. I watched all of these shows at the time. The conventional wisdom is that '95 is just the lowest quality year of product, but I didn't realize how desperate things were in late-'94. I should've remembered that, though, based on how star-studded the '95 Rumble match is. It felt like it was mostly tag team wrestlers.

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  123. The nadir is really October 94 - October 95... things start to turn at the very end of 1995. SummerSlam showed some hope but things dipped in the fall until Diesel's reign ended. The late fall/winter of 95 was cool for the more realistic approach they had going on, apparently thanks to Bill Watts.

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  124. Naw, Scott is at his best when he doesn't enjoy the shows. Sorry, Scott!

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  125. With tears in his eyes no doubt

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  126. Yes, from Survivor Series 94 to Summer Slam 95 all big 5 events were kind of awful.

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