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QOTD #58 (okay....more like 57.5): TNA on Spike

I had to ask the blog, upon reading the news.......

Today's Question: With the news coming forth (today) that Spike TV has reached an agreement with TNA for the rest of 2014, if you are Dixie Carter, what do you do first to ensure the company actually makes it to 2015?



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  1. Secret Russo hire for Christmas, baby!

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  2. The argument against it literally does not exist.

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  3. Is WCW1987 ok a bit?

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  4. And that website is the Blog of Doom.

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  5. Everything is fine!

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  6. Horrible news. Obviously his career is at jeopardy here. Selfishly, it sucks that a Lesnar/Bryan match is becoming less and less likely. Hopefully if he can return, he hasn't cooled off totally and he can actually make some good money before his body breaks down any further.

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  7. Well, I was late on that one.

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  8. I was wondering the same thing.

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  9. And better than ever?

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  10. Went back to my original name.

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  11. I just saw your yippie post, so I'll take that as a yes.

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  12. Nice to laugh at all the people that talked about WWE buying their tape library, signing TNA's talent, etc. A ton of writers wasted hours writing editorials for websites. All for NOTHING! LOLOLOLO!!!

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  13. They should just stop messing with the themes that work.

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  14. The Yankees are bunting in runs? With two outs? Did I get spirited away to Bizarroland?

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  15. I've never been able to tell - are you a gimmick poster, or do you legitimately like the show?

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  16. That would get the massive pop.

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  17. It seems like all of the best wrestling songs always wind up being the ones that sound like they came straight out of a porno. nWo theme, Rock's August-November '98 theme, etc.

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  18. Legitimately enjoy the show.

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  19. Jericho's WCW theme being a common SportsCenter highlight theme for a while was pretty cool, the first couple times.

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  20. See also: Alex Riley.

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  21. It's truly desperation time for The Binder.

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  22. While I don't disagree with you that music is targeted toward the young (because the young purchase more than others) I do lament the loss of diversity in 80s and 90s WWE music. They had classical: Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Harley Race. They had pop (Hulk Hogan, JYD). They had absurd (Honky Tonk Man), In the 90s they worked in alternative (D Generation X) and whatever the hell Austin's theme is - yet still had some of the old themes. Now it's all too similar.

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  23. Which is why they took a section of it out.

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  24. I'm gonna go ahead and pretend this isn't happening and that the totally awesome Brock/Bryan WM story can still happen. Tear.

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  25. It takes different strokes to move the world.

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  26. Blow Daddy so he keeps giving me $$$ to burn.

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  27. Yep. That theme was outstanding.

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  28. I think you just stay the course. The recent NYC run was entertaining. You just keep doing what you're doing. Stay away from EY. No MCP title run. Just believe in yourself. Don't be awful. Just stay strong.

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  29. Yeah, I got that version before they debut in July, then 2 months later WWE has their own version.

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  30. "We're not the Mounties! We're handsome, we're brave, we're STRONG!!!!"

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  31. Y'know why old theme music is better? I'll always know what to do if I ever take a trip to Cobb County, Georgia. Today's themes are nowhere near as informative.

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  32. Two words, one beast of a man:

    Scotty Riggs.

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  33. You should change your name to Kwangatude.

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  34. Incidentally, around the same time period I found out what happens to people who act like a jive soul bro and always lie to their friends.

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  35. Today all we've learned is whose time is up, and whose time it is.

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  36. It's pretty clear to me that no "name" talent (i.e. ex-WWE guys) move the ratings at all because they don't fluctuate much. No need to resign the Hardys, Dudleys, etc. Just keep signing indie guys with talent to keep cost low and concentrate on putting on a good product.

    Seems to me every time TNA gets its hands on an ex-WWE guy it pushes him to the moon. Just stick to the indie guys that WWE doesn't want and try to build them up to become something.

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  37. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 20, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    Sell it to someone who actually knows what the fuck their doing.

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  38. Old theme music let me know to buy Jacques and Ray Rougeau a "Best of Barry Manilow" box set for Christmas.

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  39. This is my favorite match.

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  40. There would less problems in Ferguson right now if the Big Boss Man were around. He'll make ya walk the line.

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  41. I've learned who came to play

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  42. Also, hope WWE releases Zack Ryder and sign him as soon as humanely possible

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  43. Booker T and RVD were both very over though. Then they ate Pedigrees.

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  44. I agree with you. The music used to be design to accentuate a guy's character/gimmick, and now it's some stuff they trying to sell on iTunes.

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  45. And you'll never catch him in the next man's sweater.

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  46. This made me think of Slick doing the "running man" at WM.

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  47. You guys thought I was gonna put Goldberg there, didn't you?

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  48. Is that really a line in his song? Does John Cena wear sweaters? I think I need to listen to that album one of these days...

    Nah, fuck that. I'll listen to Savage's rap album instead.

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  49. Put a mask on him and he'd make a good Kwang.

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  50. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 20, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    I did for the longest time. Now I keep it to myself like a series of hooker murders.

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  51. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 20, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    In All Japan it was a ridiculous knock off with trumpets instead of vocals. It sounded like it was being covered by elephants. Then he went to New Japan and Inoki paid for the real thing for him.

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  52. So what DOES Jimmy do now? I saw him at\after WM this year with Hulk, so obviously he's still in the loop. Hard to think he's an agent, being a lifelong musician and all.

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  53. They discover their Afrikaner roots?

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  54. What if you want to destroy his sweater?

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  55. Somehow I don't think a big stupid white cop would make things better.

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  56. MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY.............

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  57. If Jimmy's an agent I want to pretend he gives all directions to talent for their matches through a megaphone.

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  58. Shit, me too. Thanks man.

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  59. You'll have to pull a thread as he walks away.

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  60. I can't got anywhere near the full ***** for this match. I thought Scott's original rating of **** was about right,maybe ****1/4. Especially when their December 2003 Raw match was a lot better.

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  61. Yeah but if you can't see him, how does that work?

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  62. Michaels' had plenty of terrible matches after 2002 but he had so many great ones it gets whitewashed. He also had an awful Armageddon one with HHH in 2002.

    Best match of his comeback run for my money is the ladder match with Jericho from No Mercy 2008 which is probably my favorite WWE ladder match.

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  63. No more Dixie on tv, re-sign Bully, focus on WRESTLING. A two hour wrestling program should show more than 30 minutes of actual wrestling. Bully and Hardy are ok, but quit focusing on the other WWE castoffs. Put on more indy style matches to bring in new viewers/channel surfers.

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  64. He shifted to the film division and that CFO$ group does the in-house music now.

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  65. Completely disagree on both Miz and Ryder having themes that don't fit their characters.


    Miz's theme was perfect from his transformation from annoying, bedazzled-shorts punk to guy that's actually improving and ready to compete at a higher level. I especially love the line that says "Say goodbye to the good ol' days" - that says it all right there.

    Ryder's theme isn't so much ABOUT him (although some of the lines do fit), but is more the TYPE of song his character would listen to. Same thing with Swagger's "RATM" knock-off - Swagger's college jockhead character wasn't in line with what the lyrics were about, but it's exactly the kind angry, testosterone-filled song he'd like just for the "Get Down On Your Knees" lyric. Kinda like how people used "Good Riddance" for weddings and graduations; the lyrics don't actually fit, but the chorus and tone of the song SEEMED like it would fit with happy life events.

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  66. That swastika is doing the spinaroonie!

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  67. 1. Find a home in Vegas to ensure a cheap if not free home.
    2. Start slashing any guaranteed contracts. Workers need to work for their money. Use the TV time to see who has 'it' and offer downsides to real talent. Everyone else can go on one-shot deals and increase their profiles for indy bookings.
    3. Hire a booker. A real booker. Jake Roberts would be great, but he's probably not where he needs to be. I'd hire Raven.
    4. Raven's marching orders: professional wrestling with a Vegas, big-fight feel to it. If it could be sports entertainment, don't do it. The experts are already doing that. That doesn't mean some boring, godawful ripoff of puro or early ROH, just angles and characters who are real athletes.
    5. HEELS, goddammit! Heels make money by being jerks. Tight pulling, rolls of quarters, general sleaziness. The people need to hate again.

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  68. Ambrose theme still sucks to me. The engine rev is cool, but it's too slow and generic sounding after that. Rollins is too fast and generic sounding. Just not much good with either. I went through the entire WWE roster and these are the only wrestlers with themes that I actually enjoy, or fits the character enough for me to give it a pass.

    Usos
    Paige
    Adam Rose
    BNB
    Bo Dallas
    Bray Wyatt
    Daniel Bryan
    Jack Swagger
    Rusev

    That's it, and most of them I only like.. mostly jobbers. Wyatt easily has the best.

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  69. You've got the wrong booker for that feel.

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  70. Just be sure his contract isn't about to run out.

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  71. Remember when Rock used to wear those gaudily awesome shirts? Good times.

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  72. Yeah that was where I had trouble was finding that booker. Raven was the best of the lot as guys like Cornette and Sullivan wouldn't be right due to age and regional biases. I figured Raven to be a smart enough guy to adapt to what would essentially be a mix of Crockett, UFC and AWA.

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  73. TNA HAS 12 Knockouts for that calendar? Surprise.

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  74. If Punk got Cult of Personality, DB should get Final Countdown!

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  75. Its old enough to be publoc domain so i don't think anyone owns it, i think just to sell it as a WWE product and dnot as something anyone else could use they added the Wooo. Or maybe they just thought Flair needed a more memorable entrance for some reason. They should have had him use the knockoff version he used in the early 90s (which again, i wonder why they even had to)

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  76. He should be a Hall of Famer.

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  77. If you'd never heard of The Rock or Stone Cold you might be inclined to think their music is just a lame, generic riff. Because they both are.


    The fuck are you talking about? Are you high?

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  78. Focus on making money. If you can pull in a 3rd or a quarter of WWE's tv ratings which they do, then why can't they draw that many to an average house show? Why can't they get that many to buy a PPV or other merch?


    Figure that out and you might start making some money and stop relying on daddy to pay your bills.

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  79. It was funky as hell and typical 80's, but I dug it.

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  80. Fire Dixie. Hire someone competent.

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  81. Here's a fun game called Good Theme Song, Bad Theme Song. Walk into a room pretending you're a specific wrestler. Out loud, sing the music that the wrestler comes out to. Were you actually able to do it? Then that's a good theme song. Come up with nothing? Bad theme song.

    Here, let's play.

    I just walked into the room and I'm Cesaro from when he was in The Real Americans:

    "Dahhh nah nah nahh na nah nahhhh, dahnahnahh nahhh! Dahhh nah nah nahh na nah nuh - nah - nuhh!!"



    Awesome. Good theme song!


    Now, I'm Cesaro from right now:


    [SIREN NOISE!!!] .... Uhhhhhhh.... [crickets]


    Booooooo! Bad theme song!!!

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  82. I want Scotty Riggs to give Dixie...The Clap!

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  83. For sure on your first point. Rename it, IWF. Impact Wrestling Federation, and book it like a sport.

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  84. Mister_E_BarrettsLastPrivateerAugust 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    Needs some Bellas. Do they have any more sisters?

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  85. Yep, and Razor's theme is a rip off of the song "Those Heels" by The Eagles.

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  86. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    I would LOVE for one of the Bellas to quit and go to Impact, just to see how she was booked.

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  87. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonAugust 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    1.) Put Xplosion on the air and have squash matches.

    2.) Bring in the Wrestle-1, AAA and any other wrestling organization from all over the world and showcase their talent
    3.) Take all the wrestlers not doing anything and pair them up for tag teams.


    Focus on wrestling.

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  88. Sting's TNA theme wasn't bad.

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  89. The best ever, for me at least, has to be the original NWO theme.

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  90. I wouldn't let Cornette book bum-fights. The man can't book for shit.

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  91. I couldn't agree more with that, the original music with the quiet slow buildup was a thousand times more chills inducing.

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  92. Crikey Mate Down Under AussieAugust 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    One of the first matches I ever saw, was freaking out everytime Michaels back was attacked

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  93. AJ's theme doesn't work by itself but her skipping adds to it that it becomes a part of her. That th me becomes ingrained in her even though she has evolved beyond the initial character like how "Sexy Boy" still works even though Shawn Michaels evolved past that character years ago.

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  94. I really thought we were getting him vs. Bryan at Mania for several months after HIAC. They'd teased it, Bryan mentioned wanting it in an interview, and it was the one non-title match they coulda put Bryan in that the fans wouldn't have shit all over if they were dead set on Batista/Orton (which at the time they seemed to be).

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  95. He was a fan Rocka Khan when no one else was.

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  96. Lacey Von Erich was laughing at Brie's offense and execution.

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  97. What's the sound of 300 lbs. of crap hitting the fan? Kwang!

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  98. HHH vs Jericho was a good match. The crowd just didn't give a shit.

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  99. TNA needs talent exchanges. They have a small roster and guys who come in for short runs of good matches energize their fanbase. That's the right kind of "part timer"

    Also, I thought TNA actually had a good idea integrating MMA with wrestling but the guys they picked for it (Rampage, Mo, and TIto) are the absolute worst guys they could have picked and just terrible execution. I'd make plays for guys like Stephan Bonnar who don't do over the top prima donna wrestling stuff but do have a strong interest in and knowledge of pro wrestling. I thought Frank Trigg was actually doing really well but they just had absolutely no idea what to do with him at the time and did that dumbass amateur wrestling challenge with AJ Styles who doesn't have a mat based style at all.

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  100. Oh yeah, also, they should get AJ Styles to wrestle for them again and induct him into their Hall of Fame. Mend fences with NJPW.

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  101. He's lost a ton matches leading up to this point. This is a different direction for his character, but it looks to be good. Might as well wait and see where it*gets clotheslined*

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  102. He'd be my guy for a reboot of Memphis but that's about it.

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  103. Fucking Whoholes.

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  104. ESPECIALLY not a big, loud, obnoxious, nightstick-twirling, handcuff-waving white cop with a Confederate Flag patch on his sleeve, and another one on his breast-pocket.

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  105. He'll brush your mouth like Colgate....

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  106. That group is like the "Hit Crew" of wrestling themes. You know, the people that do covers of GOOD songs on obscure, Wal-Mart ready compilation albums?

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  107. Would Austin's theme be considered "industrial" music? Legit question, since it kinda reminds me of NiN, in a weird way.

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  108. I'll take that over Kid Rock, however.

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  109. Goddamn. That IS depressing. Reminds me of the "Dead Man's Rumble" where like, 80% of the wrestlers who appeared in it are dead now.

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  110. And never-ending CM Punk chants. I thought they wanted to KILL those, not encourage them?

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  111. 1000% YES. Have they done ONE passable film on their own? They're like, responsible for 95% of the shit filling the $5 bin at Wal-Mart these days.

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  112. Is this OK, or is it cheating?

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  113. Apparently, Vince McMahon likes guacamole. A LOT.

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  114. I fucking LOATHE Pitbull. That bald-headed motherfucker.

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  115. "Boss's Daughter" by Pop Evil should be her theme for all intents and purposes.

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  116. Indeed. More pointless waste of time than the Komen Scam.

    Anything that goes into "spreading awareness" instead of actually finding a goddamn cure is a monumental waste of time and money.

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  117. TNA did have plenty of recognizable themes from 2004-2006 but they flushed those down the drain as soon as they started tweaking Sting's badass music for no reason and then they replaced Samoa Joe's awesome music with crap and then they replaced that with a rap theme that sounded even worse and they gave Kazarian 20 different themes for no reason (nevermind that his 2004 Final Fantasy esque theme was the only good music he ever had)....and on and on and on.

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  118. Luger's 89-92 theme is far superior. Why didn't WCW just use that theme when he came back in '95 anyway?

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  119. Ok, an instrumental cover then, Mr Picky ;)

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  120. TNA has seen a night and day difference since those terrible late April tapings.


    I especially loved the opening match on tonight's episode because it was the polar opposite of what you would see on WWE TV and that's exactly what an alternative is supposed to be. Bram and Abyss busted their asses and had an entertaining match as a result.

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  121. TVGN: We air all of the old shows no one wants to see instead of doing the sane and sensible thing and getting old shows people are actually clamoring for like say Mystery Science Theater 3000, Unhappily Ever After, Weird Science, The Larry Sanders Show and Dream On.


    The next old show they buy the rights to will likely be Manimal or even worse Lipstick Jungle.

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  122. November 1, 1988.

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  123. I think the two of them are like 40 years old combined, too. CFO$ CAN make interesting themes. Their Smackdown Theme. "This Life", is actually pretty good stuff. Beyond that, I swear, Rollins, Ambrose and Cesaro's themes are all different variations of the same song.

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  124. I would make him the main announcer (Him, Dean Hill and Kenny Bolin should be the announce team instead of Tenay and Taz) but keep him far, far away from the booking offices.

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  125. Exactly. A wrestling show that focuses on wrestling is a formula that has succeeded for the past oh seven decades and has never failed yet so many wrestling shows are trying to imitate a formula that was only successful for the three years instead of sticking with the tried and true seven decade formula.
    It really doesn't make any sense.

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  126. Well they did take those sarcastic "Maybe they should bring Russo back LOL" remarks seriously after Hogan and Bischoff got turfed last year.

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  127. No Chance...that's what you've got.

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  128. don't forget method man did a version too

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  129. Hmm, yeah. “Hey TNA, we’ll give you ONE last chance to get
    good ratings. You don’t mind if we just move you to a new night with barely any
    notice though, right?”

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  130. House show business did go up with Hardy though. Internationally too, I'm sure business is better when they can plug Angle and Hardy and others, even if the TV ratings don't move an inch.

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  131. Part of the reason, I think, is that Johnston used to crank out themes by sitting with the wrestler, bouncing ideas off each other and creating something unique and personal to that guy.

    It's not that CFO$ don't care or what have you, but they're in the business of creating the music as quickly as possible and so that's what they do.

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  132. Gee, HHH in a classic. What else is new?

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  133. And with all that, the Ratings go up .005 of a point.

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  134. "WHAT'S BELLE BRIES doing in the IMPACT ZONE, TAZ??!!"

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  135. More competent than Dixie? So.....anyone?

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  136. Man, you love Kwang.

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  137. Oh, wow.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lbm_WWhKx0

    Didn't know that existed. Interesting.

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  138. Wow. It seems to be called "Those Shoes" but I totally hear it!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57-bBwiIsWU

    The singing reminds me of what I guess is a ripoff of a ripoff, Scott Hall's TNA Theme, Marvelous Me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3M5i4-B63Y

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  139. By that yardstick the greatest theme tune ever made belongs to one of:


    'Hard Time', The Big Boss Man
    'Common Man', Dusty Rhodes
    'Just Look At Me', Rob Conway

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  140. His shirt would come open after 5 seconds and then everyone would have a good laugh, easing the tension.

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  141. Benoit's WCW theme was also on that show, but I can not remember in what skit.

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  142. Up-vote for using my favourite line from IASIP.

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  143. Man, the sadness that must be running through EVERYONE here at the BOD upon reading this news.


    Sorry guys, but TNA WILL BE AROUND for the rest of the year. So, you can put your "Rise and Fall of TNA" essays in the closest for the time being.


    TNA LIVES!

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  144. They've been around for 12 years and counting. Dixie must be doing something right...

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  145. "has outlasted a company that had significant pop culture influence in WCW."



    WCW was only good for two years.

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  146. I am a TNA mark and I am laughing at you.

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  147. Hire Lex Luger, Reese, Horace Hogan, Perry Saturn, Blitzkrieg, Hardcore Hak, Tony Schivone, Aysa, Jeff Farmer and The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea for a WCW Invasion storyline.

    If anyone can do it right - TNA can!

    Thanks

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  148. LOL at BOD.


    I am a TNA mark and L am laughing at all of you.

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  149. The Mariners have a better record currently, LONG LIVE BIZARRO WORLD.

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  150. I absolutely LOVE Paige's theme song. It actually enhances her character and makes her more interesting. I like Rusev's too and the fact that Lana has her own music before his hits.
    Jim Johnston did a great interview on Austin's podcast. Funny moment when Austin talked about the sirens in his theme and Jim had to explain there were no sirens. Maybe he really is deaf. "What?" Plus, all the trouble he went through to get the breaking glass sound just right.
    Just realized yesterday the screeching tires on Mankind's 2nd theme are the same as on Bobby Brown's "My Prerogative".

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  151. 'Sexy Boy' - Shawn Michaels
    'All American Boys' - Les Freres Rougeaus
    I need to get Jimmy Hart to write a song for me.

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  152. Verne used the disco version of the Star Wars theme in Japan, which is just hilarious. The point? If I played video games I'd have a Verne - Bryan dream match for that fact alone.

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  153. I disagree if we're talking heels. I think heels don't necessarily need a good theme song. imo stuff like Skinners arrangement of jungle noises worked perfectly. it wasn't designed to get a "good reaction", they didn't want anyone to say "wow, that's a cool song", they wanted you to boo that guy.

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  154. what the hell are you talking about?

    with the rise of the internet (bandcamp, soundcloud, blogs etc.) there are literally thousands of interesting artists/bands out there.

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  155. "The Master of the Dropkick!"

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  156. On MLW Radio, Disco Inferno said basically the same thing. They are terrible at making people know they exist as a wrestling company and nothing will ever change until they figure that out.

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  157. An honest question: What makes Cornette a bad booker? I haven't seen much of TNA or ROH when he was booking, but he seems to have a pretty good booking philosophy on his shoots (Announce a fight between a guy you cheer vs a guy you hate, print money). What were the problems in practice?

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  158. Charles Xavier?

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  159. There's a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE between suspending enough disbelief in that you can buy Daniel Bryan bringing Batista down for a "short amount of time", while still TRYING to convince us of the injuries at on and off times.


    The difference with Shawn in this match is that once he kips up until the end of the match his back IS NEVER AN ISSUE for him. Sorry I don't buy that he could sustain that kind of adrenaline through a span of ten minutes.


    It also craps on all the other times Shawn kips up BUT DOES sell an injury after that when lesser damage was done in other matches.


    If all HHH did was work Shawn's back in standard fare, maybe I could suspend that kind of disbelief. But taking back crackers on Steel chairs for near 10 minutes? Asking me to believe that the bad back WOULDN'T BE an issue for him for a LARGE span of time after THAT KIND OF ABUSE, is fucking ridiculous.


    There's suspending disbelief, and then there's NUKING disbelief.

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  160. He made me aware of that theme, I don't see how that AUTOMATICALLY makes it a ***** match.


    Shawn didn't even TRY to sell the back once he kips up the first time.

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  161. The "on your knees" lyric made me think of an amateur wrestling beginning stance so it made sense for the character to me.

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  162. I don't think that works because I don't think WWE's music very well reflects what is going on pretty much anywhere else in the music world. They exist in a universe where rap metal is still in.

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  163. Pretty sure Razor was Johnston. Perfect wasn't, but I'm not sure that Hart was doing all the music at the time.

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  164. That's just terrible! It's like an Enya b-side with "BAM BAM" inserted peridoically.

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