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The SmarK Rant for WWF Survivor Series 1994

The SmarK Rant for WWF Survivor Series 1994

Live from San Antonio, TX

Your hosts are Vince McMahon & Gorilla Monsoon

The Teamsters (Diesel, Shawn Michaels, Owen Hart, Jim Neidhart & Jeff Jarrett) v. The Bad Guys (Razor Ramon, 1-2-3 Kid, British Bulldog, Fatu & Sionne)

Well, the Teamsters ARE known for their laziness and greed, so it would fit that Nash would be captaining this team. Interesting that only the team captains get entrance music this year. The storyline was more that Shawn and Diesel were having a domestic squabble as tag champions than any real issue between Ramon and Diesel. Kind of weird what a non-issue Ramon was even though he was IC champion for another three months after this. Owen starts with the Kid while Fatu is forced into wearing boots by THE MAN, and this is apparently an issue for him. Kid fights off both Harts but runs into an Anvil elbow in a weird spot, allowing the heels to take over. Kid spinkicks JJ out of the ring (giving us our first “right in the mush” of the evening) and Barbarian comes in with a press slam. Jarrett comes back with a flying clothesline for two. Next up, it’s Owen v. Bulldog and they do the cool wristlock sequence, leading to Owen getting pummelled in the face corner and slammed. Bulldog with a sunset flip for two, but Owen lays him out with the enzuigiri and the New Foundation tries some double-teaming. That backfires because Neidhart is useless, and Fatu comes in but has trouble with his footwear. What a stupid storyline that was. And really, wasn’t there ANY other Samoans available to replace Samu? They just had to give Barbarian another payday? Just use Fatu’s brother! Jarrett grabs a headlock on Ramon and quickly gets tossed for his troubles, and back in he gets double-teamed by Ramon & Kid. Razor tosses the Kid at him for a bodypress that gets two, but Jarrett comes back with an abdominal stretch to slow things down. Kid reverses, so Jarrett hiptosses him over the top rope in a cool spot missed by the camera. Back in with Fatu, who still can’t get his shit together, and Owen gets a leg lariat for two. Fatu comes back, finally acting like a human being months into his babyface run, but Diesel comes in and finishes him with the powerbomb at 13:30. Kid tries next and flies in with a sunset flip off the top, but Diesel casually shrugs him off and another Poochiebomb ends the night at 14:14. Sionne in next and he slugs away, but he walks into ANOTHER powerbomb at 14:45. Bulldog comes in and gets booted to the floor and apparently gets counted out at 16:00. Razor tries a cradle on Diesel for two and the flying bulldog for two, but Diesel puts him down with a clothesline and now Shawn finally wants into the match. He had a legit broken hand at the time, which explains his not factoring into the match thus far. Razor keeps fighting against Diesel and manages to slam him, but can’t get the Razor’s Edge. Diesel finally gets the powerbomb and Shawn tags himself in for the big finish, but then demands that Diesel hold Ramon steady for the fateful superkick. And of course Ramon moves and Diesel eats it. And now he’s had ENOUGH and turns babyface, fighting off his own team members and chasing Shawn back to the dressing room, giving Ramon the countout win over all five heels at 21:26. Survivor: Razor Ramon. Good action before the rapid-fire eliminations and storyline kicked in and killed the match dead, but man what a stupid finish. And really none of the match went anywhere. **1/4

Meanwhile, Shawn leaves the arena, dumps Diesel, and tosses the tag team titles on the ground on the way out. Hopefully he’ll have better luck with his next bodyguard!

MIDGET MADNESS: The Royal Family (Jerry Lawler, Cheezy, Queezy & Sleazy) v. Clowns R Us (Doink, Dink, Wink, Pink)

No midgets mixing with normals allowed in this match, which is how it should be. Doink quickly gets a clownzuigiri on Lawler, but Lawler’s attempt fails. And we get some midget comedy with everyone running over him on the mat. Doink with some slams and the clown midgets all try to pin Lawler with no luck. Lawler actually sells getting a Burger King crown put on his head and we get an attempt at a chicken fight that goes badly. Finally Lawler uses his old standby, the phantom object, to take over. Really, that’s a heel tactic that no one does anymore and it’s ridiculously easy heat. Pantomime a foreign object in your hand, get a cheapshot with it, hide the “object” in your tights. Doink makes a quick comeback, but a bodypress is rolled through by Lawler for the pin at 10:45. So basically Lawler is eliminated as well. The clown midgets double-team Cheezy in the corner, but Wink gets caught in the heel side and Lawler holds him down for a pin at 13:32. Pink comes in and Lawler drops Cheezy onto him for the pin at 14:33. So Dink is alone and he holds his own and gets a flying bodypress for two on Sleazy, but they roll him over for the pin at 16:00 to finish this off. Survivors: Jerry Lawler and his pet midgets. Jerry Lawler is so proud of himself that he fires his own midgets, resulting in a 6-on-1 midget revolt against him. Never trust a midget! This was as horrible as you could imagine.

WWF title, submission match: Bret Hart v. Mr. Bob Backlund

Bob runs away a few times to start, but Bret grabs a headlock and goes to work on the neck. Going back and reading the Observers from this time and it’s hilarious how much Meltzer hated Backlund at the time. I mean, he just buried the guy every chance he got. He summed up Backlund even getting to his point as “a cute idea gone haywire” and noted that they were trying to appeal to completely the wrong audience with it. So Bret works on a headlock while we get a shot of Bret’s she-devil wife Julie, and Bret reverses a crossface attempt into a suplex. Back to the headlock, but Bret misses the middle rope elbow and Bob takes over. Bret goes after Owen and nearly gets crossfaced, but fights it off and Bob goes to work on the arm. This gives me the chance to think about the changes in wrestling over the years and how long people stick around. Bob’s original reign ended in 1983 and this was 1994, 11 years after that. Those were like two different worlds and Backlund was some sort of bizarre time-traveller from the past when he did this comeback run. But think about today’s business, and how many guys from 11 years ago are still around and still in the same position. Rock was already winding his career down in 2003 and he just came back and won the WWE title again last year! Hell, the last time I did a review of this show was 15 years ago! No wonder the business is so stale. Anyway, Bret goes to a figure-four now, but Owen walks away from his towel just in case he’s tempted to use it. Backlund reverses the hold and then gets to the ropes to force a break, so Bret goes back to the leg again. They slug it out and Bob gets a piledriver, but can’t get the crossface. Bret comes back with his own piledriver and a bulldog and it’s the FIVE MOVES OF DOOM, but Bulldog chases Owen around during the Sharpshooter, allowing Owen to sneak in and break the hold. Bulldog stupidly charges on the floor and hits the stairs, knocking himself unconscious and thus removing the possibility of throwing in the towel. Bob finally gets his crossface and the crowd is freaking out, although Davey Boy may be legally dead at this point and no one seems to care. So Bret is in the hold for NINE MINUTES, which gives me time to go make popcorn and feed my cat, while Owen has a babyface turn at ringside and tearfully talks Stu and Helen into throwing in the towel on Davey’s behalf. Meanwhile, Davey still hasn’t moved and probably has a fractured skull or something. Finally, Helen caves into Owen’s tears and throws in the towel, giving Backlund the WWF title again at 35:20. Backlund of course wouldn’t even make it to the next episode of Monday Night RAW with the belt. The final 10 minutes were some cool mindgames on Owen’s part, but there was just too much nothing leading up to it. AND WHAT ABOUT BULLDOG?! **1/2

The Million Dollar Team (Tatanka, Bam Bam Bigelow, King Kong Bundy & The Heavenly Bodies) v. Guts & Glory (Lex Luger, Adam Bomb, Mabel & The Smoking Gunns)

Tatanka throws chops on Luger to start and gets a suplex, but Lex no-sells all of it and comes back with clotheslines. Mabel tosses Dr. Tom around and flattens him with a bodypress at 4:08. Del Ray comes in and walks into the Bossman slam, so we get the Bundy v. Mabel showdown. That goes nowhere and it’ Mabel v. Bam Bam, and Mabel “hits” a leg lariat that misses by 2 feet and goes up. Bigelow slams him off in an impressive spot and goes up with a sunset flip, but Mabel sits on him and they both go tumbling to the floor for countout of Mabel at 7:30. Del Ray superkicks Billy Gunn for two, but a backslide gets two. Adam Bomb comes in and hits the slingshot clothesline on Bigelow, but Bundy gets a cheapshot and the Lunasault finishes at 9:19. Del Ray works Luger over, but walks into the STAINLESS STEEL FOREARM OF DOOM and gets pinned at 11:10. The Gunns double-team Tatanka, but he knocks off Bart with the Papoose To Go at 15:00. Luger and Billy work Tatanka over, but Bundy comes in and drops an elbow on Billy to finish him at 17:40. So Luger is alone 3-on-1, the world’s greatest choke artist against the most useless heel stable ever. The heels work Luger over forever, but Luger cradles Tatanka for the pin at 23:32 before Bundy splashes and pins him at 23:40. Survivors: Bam Bam Bigelow & King Kong Bundy. Pretty dull stuff. **1/2

Meanwhile, Mr. Bob Backlund FEELS LIKE GOD.

Casket Match: Undertaker v. Yokozuna

Your special referee is Chuck Norris, long before he became an internet meme. Taker chases Yoko around the ring and goes old school, but walks into the samoan drop. Yoko tries for the casket, but Taker necksnaps him to escape. Yoko comes back with a legdrop and they fight into the casket, but that goes nowhere. Yoko tosses him and takes over with some choking, but Taker goes up with the flying clothesline and that seems to be it for Yoko. The heels start coming out to re-enact Royal Rumble 94, but they didn’t count on CHUCK NORRIS being there this time. This still gives IRS time to run in and put Taker in a sleeper and into the casket, but Undertaker arises and he’s pissed. Clothesline and big boot puts Yoko in the casket, and Taker slams the lid shut at 15:24 to avenge himself. It was what it was. *

The Pulse

I know this tends to be a polarizing show to say the least. I just found it really, really dull tonight and had no real connection to any of the elimination tag matches. Your overall enjoyment will probably depend on what you get out of the Bret v. Backlund title match, so for me it’s a thumbs in the middle show.

Comments

  1. Their first casket match sucks but I actually really enjoy this one. The idea of Undertaker looking for vengeance just works for me and I like the match. Plus I remember having a "best of survivor series vhs" with this match given the WWF Home Video treatment with dramatic music and voice over and it gives me fond memories of it.

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  2. Is this a new rant or a repost?

    I could of sworn the Hart Backlund match was rated **** before?

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  3. Seriously, was there ANY inkling of Diesel showing up as WWF Champion on the next Raw? Just looking at this show it just seems like such an out of nowhere move.

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  4. That is a monstrous rating downgrade on Hart/Backlund.

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  5. No, this is the original one from 1999. When he says 15 years ago during the Hart/Backlund segment, he's talking about his write-up from 1985, and he used a time machine to travel forward in time to talk about The Rock winding his career down in 2003.

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  6. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    I've never seen you downgrade a match so dramatically. But I can't disagree with it. The first time I read your original rant for this I was like "HOW did a match involving a 10 minute long submission hold get 4 stars?"

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  7. I still get a lot out of the Backlund/Hart match. The last time I watched it was when I nabbed the SS box sets in 09, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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  8. There was a bit of a link. They explained that the live event cards were already set, but with Bret Injured, the only 2 contenders for Backlund were there suddenly broken up former tag champs, Shawn and Diesel. They gave the nod to Big Daddy Cool, and the rest was history.

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  9. I'll defend that Diesel finish. Just because it's a storyline deal doesn't mean it's stupid or ruins a match. I thought it was actually pretty clever.

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  10. Also, Backlund/Hart is the most forgettable famous feud of all time.

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  11. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 3, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    That is the only part that's super memorable to me. That and Owen laughing like an evil little bastard when Helen throws in the towel.

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  12. Is the million dollar team vs guts and glory the biggest collection of shitty workers/boring wrestlers in one match? All of them fall into either category except maybe for bam bam or a motivated luger.

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  13. only thing i would have changed, I wish that Owen would have barely beaten the count, then they could have gone another 5 minutes before Razor got the win.

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  14. And while we are talking about Hart/Backlund, I have a nit to pick. The stips for Hart's 11 and 13 matches should be reversed. 11 should have been a submission match and 13 an I Quit.

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  15. I don't know, I found Mabel and Adam Bomb ok as faces, and they were definitely over. (too bad they barely ever won matches though). And Bundy was surprisingly efficient for a while when he came back.

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  16. from history of wwe "Action Zone - 11/27/94: Diesel (sub. for Bret Hart) pinned WWF World Champion Bob Backlund to win the title following a boot to the midsection and a powerbomb after a matter of seconds; Diesel's involvement in the match was not announced until WWF Superstars aired that morning; it was announced on local TV during the Nov. 5-6 weekend that Randy Savage would be the guest referee for the originally scheduled Hart/Backlund match but that announcement was never mentioned again"

    In the days before that, it said "Diesel (sub. for Bret Hart) defeated King Kong Bundy"

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  17. The focus was the Diesel/Shawn, not Razor winning a match.

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  18. I don't know, the Bret Austin match might have suffered a tad from Piper yelling "WHADDA YA SAY??" every 5 seconds.

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  19. Shamrock and Piper can stay where they are.

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  20. I didn't get the Action Zone back then, I just remember what I wrote from a Superstars episode, possibly a local/edited version of it. Was a confusing weekend, especially with a house show looming soon after (which ended up getting cancelled. DAMN YOU WWE!!)

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  21. Agreed. Have Anvil eliminated early, then Diesel beats up Shawn and Jarrett and they all get counted out, then Owen gets back in there but eventually loses. Having all five get counted out was too contrived.

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  22. If Julie Hart is a she-devil, what does that make her husband?

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  23. a god, and inspiration to us all. (hey, he had a threesome with 2 japanese girls. )

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  24. Speaking of those two, in 2014 who would you trust more with a live microphone? I honestly think Shamrock may have a better promo in him than Piper at this point.

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  25. I skimmed Hart Strings and it looks as horrible as you'd imagine. I just kept thinking about their children, having to deal with two different books about how horrible their parents are

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  26. my friend's step-mother makes $73 every hour on the computer. She has been out of a job for 7 months but last month her pay was $7220 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more on this web sitePAYRAP.COM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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  27. Has Meltzer ever mentioned why he hates Backlund so much? Does he still hate him?

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  28. so you have 1200 comments and only 45 upvotes? wow that is bad

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  29. Piper is still the king.

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  30. ** 1/2? Ouch. Did this DVD (VHS?) perform a bait-and-switch, replacing their great match with their Wrestlemania XI one?

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  31. Call his radio show and ask (that'd be pretty funny, actually)?. It's probably just the NYC magazines making a big deal out of Backlund and ignoring whatever world champion Dave thought was a better worker at the time?

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  32. I miss this PPV taking place on Thanksgiving Eve. Brings back fond memories of watching the PPV at Grandma's house before the REAL main event between my two uncles took place.

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  33. i hated it when it was on thanksgiving. I could never watch it because I was the only wrestling fan in my family

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  34. He did a good job teasing the Shield breakup before WM, yep.

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  35. Meltzer hated WWF for the longest time. So I'm sure that had something to do with it as well.

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  36. This is why you should continue redoing reviews because your tastes in match ratings changes. I believe your original rating of Hart/Backlund was ****.

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  37. Wow, from **** to **1/2. On a Bret Hart match, no less! What's next? I've heard rumblings of a WM18 re-rant coming up with a ****1/4 rating for Rock/Hogan.

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  38. Mute the TV and that match is a dud.

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  39. mute the TV, and the 10 man tag at Canadian Stampede is a dud also. Such a stupid argument.

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  40. Mute Raw and it's the greatest show ever!

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  41. I'm on my phone at the moment, so I'm not sure if anyone brought this up... This was a weird announce team pairing, right up there with Gorilla and Jim Ross on the few Coliseum Video tapes they did together.

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  42. Stranger in the AlpsAugust 3, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    Pfffft. Time machine. Yeah, right.

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  43. Um... Okay? What the fuck is your point here? Who has ever Argued that that match is a technical masterpiece? And why would I care if it's ever downgraded?

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  44. The Twitter trends pop up onscreen and so do the DID YOU KNOW? facts. What do you need sound for?

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  45. You didn't have to be a dick about it

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  46. Because wrestlers reading a crowd and a giant atmosphere are apart of the art form of wrestling. It would be like saying take out the armdrags and chops and you're left barely anything in regards to the Steamboat and Flair matches. Or take out the two big spots for Taker-Mankind and you're left with nothing.

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  47. No, I understand that. But outside of the crowd and atmosphere what is it about Rock/Hogan that makes it a classic? Using another match that's highly dependent on crowd and atmosphere as an example to try and derail my argument doesn't make sense.

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  48. Stop muting your television. Why limit your experience of the match? Commentary, crowd noise, the impact of the moves are all important and lost on mute.

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  49. I loved Bret-Backlund. The Mr. Backlund character was just perfect.

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  50. It's a classic match because it's two of the biggest wrestlers from their respectable era wrestle at the grandest stage of them all. It's not a technical classic by any means, but it is something that is monumental. Kind of like Andre/Hogan.

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  51. He originally gave Undertaker-Brock HIAC a *** or something like that and gave it a ****1/2 when reviewing the HIAC DVD. I too would be interested in some fresh reviews just to see if any opinions have changed.

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  52. How shitty would a casket match DVD set be? I'd still want one, if only to show the match where Triple H jobs to Mideon and Viscera.

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  53. Stop muting your television. Why limit your experience of the match? Commentary, crowd noise, the impact of the moves are all important and lost on mute.

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  54. Not sure if it directly relates to Bobby statement, but you stated everything I was thinking as it concerns playing to the crowd or appropriately playing up the drama of the moment. Nearly everyone in that 10 man tag and Rock-Hogan did it masterfully.

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  55. "Uhh, well, you know, Backlund was just… he was just, you know, a different type of worker, man. Just, you know, not of the time."

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  56. Yeah, like that one would make it to the dvd.

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  57. "He wasn't Japanese."

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  58. to not listen to cole, lawler and jbl

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  59. At least it'd be better than the combo Buried Alive/Inferno Match DVD set.

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  60. I think the downgrade is justified here. The pacing of the match was too plodding. Bret can be a miracle worker at times, no doubt about it. And having not seen it live, my perspective could be unjustly skewed. Still, I could never get invested in this match.

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  61. better than a "blank" on a pole match

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  62. Bret's selling was AMAZING in that Crossface Chickenwing. He looked like he was legitimately being torn apart by it- it totally makes the match for me. Well, that and Owen's HILARIOUSLY over-the-top bawling performance, switched immediately with gleeful heelish cheering. Brilliant work from both Harts in that match.

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  63. At a RAW in Philly a couple years ago, he was doing autograph signings on the concourse and was still in the zone in that character. Really cracked me up.

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  64. I think this is a better show than it's generally given credit for. Bret-Backlund is overlong but still pretty good, and Backlunds post-match promo is fantastic. Also, a couple of good elimination matches and Taker-Yoko is alright for what it is.

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  65. because i'm a history/political science guy, I could name the presidents backwards and forwards. I have always wondered what his response would be; would I get the autograph?.

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  66. Cooler_Than_GuntherAugust 4, 2014 at 12:12 AM

    the ending of the title match is so goddamn ridiculous in how drawn out and melodramatic (even by wrestling standards) it is

    it went about 10 to 15 min way too long, didn't add anything to the match after a point, and is prime fast-forward material of if ever there was any

    i can only imagine how bored the live crowd got not being able to hear owen, and instead just seeing everyone stall like larry zbyszco in his prime

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  67. Cooler_Than_GuntherAugust 4, 2014 at 12:13 AM

    but in this case, all of the audio from the submission move being locked on is interolerable with owen's screeching

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  68. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 12:18 AM

    Shamrock is 50 Cent's bodyguard now. Seriously.

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  69. Wow. Had no idea about that. Life is strange man.

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  70. Mute your TV when you watch a movie and see how much you enjoy it.

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  71. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever really cared for any Survivor Series. So much dreck on each one.

    Oddly, I think Shawn vs. Bret in '97 was headed towards being the best match between the two, and then, you know.

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  72. Haven't read the book. Did she have tears in her eyes a lot as well?

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  73. Personally, I was pulling my hair out the entire time Bret was in the Chicken Wing. I thought he was being murdered and was screaming for those idiots to listen to Owen, who was obviously the only sane person at ringside. Want a great hidden highlight? Owen didn't show his true colors after the towel hit the canvas... he hung around for a few seconds and waited for the bell... THEN he took off like a bat out of hell. Glorious.

    Bret has talked about the visual of his mother stepping over Davey's lifeless body like he were nothing, let alone her son-in-law. It made me realize that, like everyone else, Davey's condition never even entered my mind. I guess that means he did his job well, doesn't it?

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  74. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 12:44 AM

    I've never been a fan of the SS match itself.

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  75. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 12:48 AM

    50 Cent is a dumb name. At least call yourself 50 Buck.

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  76. 50 Buck and Young Buck. The rap game version of the Young Bucks.

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  77. If Bret was really the seller he claimed he was in his book, he should've sat out AT LEAST until the Royal Rumble to put over the chicken wing. Being in that unstoppable submission for nine freakin' minutes should've left Bret's arm legally dead, unless he came back for a Jax arm in time for WM11.

    How does a countout decision even work in that situation? Ok, Shawn runs away and Diesel goes after him....they get counted out, but the other three guys were technically legal men. The ref shouldn't have counted them out en masse, just counted out 'one' guy, then started the 10 seconds for the next guy, and so forth.

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  78. Bret's selling looked like sheer agony in that hold, and he looked near-dead while walking off post-match. How long DID he stay out after the match?

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  79. I liked them until they started half-assing eliminations and DQing everyone. When you'd actually see major stars fight rarely, it was INSANE to see more than a couple in each match.

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  80. From Amazon - "Vividly detailed and humorous, this authentic account of Julie’s life as an individual, wife, mother, sister, and friend is told by, quite arguably, the Hitman’s toughest opponent and greatest ally of all time."

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  81. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 4, 2014 at 1:39 AM

    According to Chris Jericho, he is that character. That's him in real life all the time.

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  82. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 1:39 AM

    Come back you got a dolla, holla!

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  83. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 1:43 AM

    War Games or GTFO.

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  84. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 4, 2014 at 1:46 AM

    Or as he would be in Nigeria, 400,000,000 Dollar.

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  85. It's actually a small list of SS matches that I actually like. When they went away from the SS matches it made the event less unique but I never cared for the matches all that much anyways. It would be nice if they'd actually give one of them 30 minutes nowadays though.

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  86. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 4, 2014 at 1:47 AM

    Showing that 1995 actually started in November 1994.

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  87. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 1:49 AM

    I like the opener and the Wild card match from 95 and a couple others, but a lot of them are just jobbers circle jerking for 20 minutes and getting pinned by transition moves.

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  88. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 1:50 AM

    Is that the country where inflation is so bad the smallest bill they have is like $100,000?

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  89. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 1:56 AM

    Also, the EC match should be at SS. It fits with the theme, and if promoted right it wouldn't be the b-show it's become anymore.

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  90. What you are arguing is purely a storyline/booking decision, which Bret would have no say whatsoever. What he could do was sell the shit out of that hold, which he did thoroughly and believably.

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  91. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 4, 2014 at 2:21 AM

    It's either Nigeria or Zimbabwe. One of those two.

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  92. Virgil's Gimmick TableAugust 4, 2014 at 2:24 AM

    I've always thought that too. Plus, I don't like the placement of EC before Mania. It makes the Rumble seem less prestigious when the champion has to fight through several guys to get to WrestleMania too.

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  93. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 2:38 AM

    Agreed. And having what is probably the most dangerous match WWE does (it's either EC or MITB now that HITC is just a normal match in a big cage) 6 weeks before WM doesn't seem too smart either.

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  94. Adam "Colorado" CurryAugust 4, 2014 at 2:50 AM

    It'sZimbabwe. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Zimbabwe_$100_trillion_2009_Obverse.jpg

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  95. Wrestling matches are renowned for their dialogue and score, after all.

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  96. JR is the dialogue and MSG is the score.

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  97. Your right that it wasn't a technical masterpiece but its still pro wrestling. Its not a sport but its a performance for entertainment purposes and always has been. If the match was entertaining then it was good. Thats all there is too it. Rock and hogan had a very entertaining match imo and thats all you can ask for in a pro wrestling match. Id much rather watch vince and shanes street fight at wm17 than bret vs shawn iron man match cuz the mcmahon match was entertaining to me. The iron man match wasnt.

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  98. MaffewOfBotchamaniaAugust 4, 2014 at 3:31 AM

    LUGER GETTING PINNED BY BUNDY ON PPV IN 1994.


    HAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAA

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  99. Aye, live it probably just seemed like someone missed a cue. Same effect could have been achieved in as little as 2 or 3 minutes, and it wouldn't have been basically unwatchable. And you know what Gorilla was like, he would've just said "Bret's been in the hold for fifteen minutes!" anyhow. :)

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  101. And this was a guy they were once giving the HOGAN PUSH to!

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  102. Pretty much what others have said- he wasn't Japanese, he represented a company the mainstream-hating Meltzer hated, etc. This is a guy who said Gorilla Monsoon was the worst commentator for years in a row, and called Backlund's title reign the "most disgusting angle" or something.

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  103. No, but it was a lot funnier that way.

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  104. It's just crazy to think about that Backlund was 44 in 94 and Triple H is now 45. On the other side, even back in 1982 or so Backlund looked like 44. ;-) It's also his look, his outfit, his wrestling style which didn't fit in the "new generation" at all. Even in 1987-89 or so, he would have looked out of place in the main event scene against Hogan or Andre or Savage.

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  105. Did Bret know Diesel was getting the belt a few days later? If not, I'm curious what his reaction was when he found out.

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  106. Chuck Norris would be incredibly over as guest ref nowadays.

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  107. Could this be one instance where WWE was ahead of the pop culture curve? "Chuck Norris Special Enforcer: 10 years too soon!

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  108. I think he probably did.

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  109. MaffewOfBotchamaniaAugust 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM

    The only reason to watch the show *and* Raw '94.

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  110. And he was a big draw in WCW, when he came back in 95. How could they f this up?

    I think, instead of the Narcissis Narcissisisiist Gimmick they just should have brought him in as the Total Package Lex Luger who wants to kick Ric Flair in the a** or so. Or he should have won the rumble instead of Yokozuna.

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  111. So, why didn't someone use "With a tear in his quad..." with Kevin Nash as meme?
    IT'S RIGHT THERE!

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  112. Bret's ex-wife is a she-devil? How?

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  113. Because she can't be a he-devil.

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  114. I like to think the brain damage Davey Boy suffered here contributed to his nonsensical heel turn on Diesel the next year. Who else but a brain damaged, unstable nut job would willingly team with Luger after this show?

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  115. "With a tear in his thigh"

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  116. Semi off topic but the remainder of the SNME were just loaded to the Network.

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  117. He probably awaited Nash thanking him for teaching him how to work at KotR94. With a tear in his eye of course.

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  118. At 14 years old if you weren't putting your friends in the chicken wing then you did it wrong.

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  119. MikeyMike, WitnessAugust 4, 2014 at 6:21 AM

    **1/2 for a 35 minute match. Was Backlund every any good?

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  120. I didn't find out until Action Zone when Pettingill made the announcement and I marked big time like a dumb ass.

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  121. Because she was jealous of his fame.


    Could've also been because he fucked anything that served him a meal on the road, but Bret's pretty sure it's the first one.

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  122. Can someone explain to me the "tears in his eyes" "hotel room" running joke? I keep seeing it but I don't know the context behind it.

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  123. The very first one from 1987 is one of the finest PPVs ever I reckon. Has one of only two PPV appearances from Jumping Bomb Angels and worth watching just for that match. Also has Hogan jobbing in the main event which is always fun.

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  124. Yeah, the crowd is mental for that match too. I know it was a different era, when crowds were generally a lot hotter than the generalised silence that permeates most WWE events in the here and now, but you could tell it was a big match that people were emotionally invested in. It *mattered* to people.

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  125. That's an excellent idea.

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  126. Probably something along the lines of "This is bullshit, everyone in that goddamn dressing room knows I'm the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be."

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  127. 95 is fantastic, but yeah - it's historically been a consistently weak PPV.

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  128. She was jealous of his fame!

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  129. No Lesnar, Cena, or Heyman tonight? Boo.

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  130. Don't worry... there will be more Goldust/Stardust segments that don't lead to anything.

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  131. A lot of people really hate Gorilla's commentary.

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  132. I think Davey's selling of being knocked out in the Bret-Backlund match was the prototype of the "wrestler in tag match not involved in the main storyline disappears into the ether" bit that WWE uses on every Raw now, just as "Bret destroys announcers table" at the next Survior Series would become standard on every Raw.

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  133. my friend's step-mother makes $73 every hour on the computer. She has been out of a job for 7 months but last month her pay was $7220 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more on this web siteWORkbuCK.COM ***********************

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  134. In Hitman's book, he says after his match with Davey Boy, wrestlers and agents were coming up to his hotel room with tears in their eyes calling it the greatest match of all time. He also comments on how many people loved working with him and they all told him how he was the best opponent they ever had. Great book, but he does come off a bit of an egomaniac at times.

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  135. MikeyMike, WitnessAugust 4, 2014 at 7:18 AM

    Are they doing whatever it takes to get a rating below 2 tonight?

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  136. This would be the PPV where the Kliq called out Vince and JJ on payouts. Shawn was given $45,000 for one kick, where Nash was given $30,000.

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  137. it is a bit tired isn't it

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  138. I always wondered about Davey. He just lied there with his eyes closed for 20 mins? That had to be uncomfortable. Why not stretcher him out?

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  139. Hmmm... I'd like to say #2 since Batista is an active performer and expected to be back after the summer, but WWE has already been touching on #1 with Miz's new character.

    So I'm going with #1, complete with Sandow coming out painted like Drax.

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  140. MikeyMike, WitnessAugust 4, 2014 at 7:21 AM

    Plus she should have been happy the ring rats he was cheating on her with were far superior ring rats than those of Shawn.

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  141. Okay, so no Cena, Lesnar or Heyman tonight, just a few weeks from Summerslam. Brilliant. I guess this means we're getting another extended Fandango-has-99-problems-and-the-bitches-are-two-of-them segment, Damien Sandow doing something stupid, and a 25-minute beatdown of Reigns and Ambrose by Orton and Rollins.

    In other words, there is a better than average chance this show is going to be the suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked.

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  142. Absolutely. When he wins the belt, and they draw out the announcement and presenting him with the belt, you can feel the crowd's uneasiness and anger. I love Kevin Nash, but Christ almighty, all that is thrown away to give the belt to Diesel...

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  143. YankeesHoganTripleHFanAugust 4, 2014 at 7:24 AM

    I have no problem with Brock/Cena/Heyman not being there tonight IF they do something along the lines of the Brock Lesner taped interview in the lead up to extreme rules. Remember it was the one with the awesome "it not what's going through his head, it's whats running down his leg....piss" line.

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  144. They may not lead to anything, but they're still amusing!

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  145. 1989 was always special because it was the first PPV on VHS I got my hands on. I watched it 8 million times.

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  146. Why would they mock a guy who is still under contract? Even if they do a segment with Miz or Sandow making fun of Batista, I guarantee it will still somehow put Batista over, since he's expected back at some point.

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  147. So...your uncles had a wrestling match? Do tell.

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  148. I'd be less tired of it if I understood it.

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  149. Does NASDAQ rerunning a column from Motley Fool discussing WWE Network count as "NASDAQ Believes the WWE's Current Network Numbers Puts the Company's Future at Risk"? Bit of a misleading headline, no?

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  150. Vince has done plenty of petty stuff like that before. The new "Hollywood Miz" character is a thinly-veiled shot at Batista already.

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  151. and how you can get the idea that a 7 foot monster can be a babyface is beyond me. Being a babyface means having hot offense and selling. Forget what we think of Nash's workrate, it is just not believable that someone that big and bad can be in constant danger from smaller guys. If anything, his title run should have been as a heel, and why some of his best work was in late 95/96 when they did turn him.


    A Backlund-Hart, Backlund-HBK WMXI main event would have been awesome.

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  152. I don't see it that way at all.

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  153. It's also a play on Miz's whole shtick since becoming a regular performer with WWE, taking his usual persona and turning it up to 11.


    I'd be shocked if there isn't a "Did You Know" segment touting that a movie with WWE Superstar Batista was the highest-grossing August opening weekend ever.

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  154. Oh yeah, that's a good choice for #4.

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  155. No Brock, No Cena, No Heyman two weeks from Summerslam.


    World Wrestling Entertainment
    Just Buy the PPV Because We Said So

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  156. The "tears in his eyes" joke is a reference to Bret Hart's Auto-Biography. The book itself is actually pretty great but Bret has an almost comically over inflated opinion of himself. Right around the time he wins the his first Intercontinental Title it seems like every page he talks about fans, other wrestlers, random folks on the street, DJ's at strip clubs everyone basically walking up to him with tears in their eyes and confiding(Bret loves that word) him how much they respect him or how he is the greatest of all time. I thought it was an exaggeration at first but on the second read through it really does come out like that. Bret is an all time great by most calculations but he gets a little carried away with always telling the reader how much everyone else respects him.

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  157. It's "Option D" - For Dave.

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  158. Maybe this will be the week they find the Tesseract or whatever the blessed hell it is they're looking for.

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  159. Oof, downgraded from **** to **1/2. Sorry Bret. Actually I'm even more sorry b/c to Bret it was probably *****, just like all his main event matches in 1994. And 1996. And '97. And all his house show runs. And his last bowel movement.

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  160. How much more selling of a Brock-Cena rematch does the WWE need to do? I'm pretty sure most folks are already sold.

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  161. No.. they are going to hype it up just like they did with the Rock's movies, because when Batista comes back he will most likely be pushed as a face..


    Mark My Words..

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  162. Pushing him as a face is the biggest punishment they could give him.

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  163. ehhh Though I understand contracts and movies are involved give them credit for giving tv time and ppv push time to other people. Yes I know one of the is Stephanie but they are giving huge push time to a women's angle.

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  164. This is what happens when I bite from Newz sites without really checking the info.
    I changed the headline

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  165. Whatever happened to "Live Via Satellite" interviews with talent? Does that count as an appearance?

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  166. This is a perfect explanation.

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  167. That's why you're the hardest working man on the BoD!

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  168. He's in the top three most boring WWF/E Champions ever. Wrestling-wise, Ric Flair owned him.

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  169. Well Stephanie-Brie will get extra segments now!

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  170. Never ever ever ever ever.

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  171. I enjoy "Sandow Does Something Stupid"...

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  172. Much like last year, SummerSlam's gonna be sold on whether anybody cares on one or two matches.

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  173. Motley Cruz, this time I'm comin'... full force.

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  174. "Much like every month, SummerSlam's gonna be sold on whether anybody cares on one or two matches."


    FTFY

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  175. MikeyMike, WitnessAugust 4, 2014 at 7:51 AM

    Im the the one turning the tables.

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  176. It was tired after a week.

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  177. Trying to figure out what the point of the WM special on NBC is. We discussed this a couple weeks back and some argued that it made more sense to focus on Cena, Lesnar, and the three older folks in the opening segment than others (particularly since Bryan is out with injury). Fair enough. Get people to stop channel surfing when they see a big name. BUT...and this is a big but, it seems kind of silly to then NOT have Lesnar or Cena on RAw tonight. And certainly no appearances by Hogan, Rock, or Austin. It would seem if the purpose of the WM special is to entice people to try WWE, then you would want to provide the curious with the very names that got them to try out Raw. And that's without even getting into the soft sell for Summerslam. Just strange logic to me.

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  178. and drag ratings down further

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  179. Dream scenario:
    Vince: no Cena, no Lesnar no Heyman... shit shit shit I can't even think of any feces-related comedy! DUTCH!!!
    Dutch: Get me some coffee and a pencil!

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  180. That's a great way to use Lesnar actually that I hadn't even thought about. They could tape a whole bunch of promos on one of the dates that he's actually there and then just roll them out throughout the year. Perfect for his personality too.

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  181. Well that's whatcha get for $10 a month, motherfuckers.

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  182. I was so tired, with that crust in my eyes...

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  183. worked for Eddie Murphy's last year on SNL

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  184. Yikes, no Lesnar, Cena, or Heyman tonight. Good luck with the ratings.

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  185. I want to reread it just to count the times he does that.

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  186. For sure. That match, along with Hart's return bout against Austin the following year, were both treated as huge deals. One of the reasons we've spent so much time talking about the potential Cena-UT Wrestlemania match we never got, is it was one of the few matches involving mega-stars that a) WWE hadn't ran into the ground, and b) we could be reasonably sure they wouldn't run on a random Raw in October.

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  187. Coming soon: The historic compilation of bra & panties matches.

    #ThinklikeaMcMahon

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  188. I always thought that a John Cena vs. Randy Orton match would have felt special (even a WrestleMania feel match) if they haven't done the match again and again in repeated PPVs that no one cares now. That's why they tried the Royal Rumble thing and it blew on their faces. Stretching feuds for three PPVs in a row hurts the feeling of special matches. See also Bryan-Orton as matches that could have being special but because of that I don't want to see them again.

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  189. Exactly. I'm not subscribing b/c of I have tons of hours of content on hard drives, DVDs, and even a couple un-converted VHS. More stuff than I can reasonably watch, really, so it seems silly to shell out for more content.

    But if I actually wanted to watch the current PPVs...

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