In your opinion, has anyone had a worse year than Kane? I don't think any of it is on him, but he found a great niche with Bryan and has been put in garbage spots since the breakup of Hell No. Now he drains the life right out of everything.
Goldust and Marc Mero in 98-99 would be my picks. Especially Goldust, who went from a major contender to comic relief, and then nails-on-chalkboard irritating. Mero lost his valet and spiraled into nothing due to injuries and just ended up being a channel-changing break.
Goldust in 1997 was much worse. Went from the longest and worst feud ever with Hunter to that weirdo/homophobic gimmick with Luna all in one year. Add to that feud with Pillman that was wretched. Barf city.
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Big Boss Man in '99.
ReplyDeleteKennel From Hell, feud with Big Show, HIAC with Undertaker.
R-Truth, 2012, anyone?
ReplyDeleteWent from a program with Cena/Rock, to utterly nothing.
I think all the talent that got fired this year, had a worse year
ReplyDeleteBulldog 99 was pretty f'ing dire.
ReplyDeleteHonky Tonk Man. August 1988-present
ReplyDeleteUmmm what about Damien Sandow in 2015. I think that takes the cake
ReplyDeleteHow about that horrible 2012 for John Cena... huh?
ReplyDeleteYeah that was rough.
ReplyDeleteDel rio over the last 12 months went from world title matches to losing his announcer, his title, not being on ppvs, afterthought matches, no direction and now fired.
ReplyDeleteSandow went from being mr mitb to blowing his title shot, losing his interesting intellect of the masses character, wearing goofy costumes, losing streak gimmick and is now a jobber.
ReplyDeleteAnyone read the Andre graphic novel that came out earlier this year from First Second Books? It's really great. It's written and drawn by a guy named Box Brown who has a fantastic, simplified cartoony style. Definitely a great buy for wrestling fans who grew up watching Andre.
ReplyDeleteAs far as an Andre set, that's been high on my list of wants for years. I would love a solid 2 hour Andre doc and some rare matches.
Bossman's promos against Big Show are classic during their feud. The poem in particular always gets a laugh from me. 99 Bossman is a guilty pleasure of mine.
ReplyDeleteOwen in... no, not even going to go there.
ReplyDeleteBret in 2000. Already booked like ass, then Goldberg nearly kicks his head off (literally), and Terry Funk knocks him out.
TJ: what's funny as hell if you navigate through the mess that is twitter right now, is that Del Rio is ring cyber-booked as a HUGE babyface for standing up for himself and his culture.
ReplyDeleteKane has had a really lousy year.
ReplyDeleteI'll go with Ziggler last year. Went from world champ to concussion victim to "problem" because he wouldn't be a "team player". Ryder 2012 wasn't that great either.
ReplyDeleteCody Barbierri is the name of the racist guy ADR got fired over
ReplyDeleteBret in 1998. When you compare what could have been to what actually was, it's by far the worst. In summer of '97 he was the WWF World Champion. One year later, he was a lowly challenger for Booker's TV Title.
ReplyDeleteMiz after his tag team with R-Truth broke up. From main-eventing mania to being beat up by Schwarzenegger to being eliminated by the Cobra during this year's battle royal.
ReplyDeleteMore than a year, yeah...but an awful spiral into wrestlecrap.
I don't even know what phase of Kane we're in right now. He was doing kind of a Corporate thing which I thought could be cool as a sort of John Laurentis with muscles kind of thing, then he put the mask back on, then...he fought Daniel Bryan....then...I lost track.
ReplyDeleteAnyhoot, Kane is nothing if not reliable, and respected. He strikes me as the kind of guy they'll keep around as long as he wants to be there, doesn't ruffle feathers, and doesn't kill anymore cheerleaders.
Overall worst year wise? I always thought the ballad of Kevin Nash's first WWE In-ring run was a special kind of calamity.
Grrr...he even has a slapable name!
ReplyDeleteHe got Rock Bottomed onto a pile of dog shit. Am I missing something?
ReplyDeleteMost people named Cody are jackasses.
ReplyDeletePoor Marc Mero. Debuts as a 'comedy' gay guy which he actually got somewhat over. Then in WWE, constantly injured and was used as nothing more than filler to get his talentless plastic bitchface wife over because Russo was obsessed with Sable.
ReplyDeleteHello...I sent in the email. I should've been more clear that it referred to wrestlers in 2014 only.
ReplyDeleteSo a guy in his mid to late 40's, in the twilight of his career, has had a PPV main event, and several other high profiles matches and tons of air time, and... he's been having a BAD year???? Unless you strictly mean "Kane the character's win-loss record", that is absurd. for him personally, it must be one of the best years of his long career.
ReplyDeleteThat toothpaste is outta the tube and aint' going back now, friendo.
ReplyDeleteThat's a hell of a head-scratcher. The money move would have been to have a DVD ready to go when the battle royale was announced as a means of introducing the younger generation to Andre and why it was such a big deal, and not just Hogan putting himself over with his story about pressing the 700-pound behemoth over his head with torn muscles in his back.
ReplyDeleteOr, WWE could have put a bunch of Andre the Giant matches on the Network and plugged them... oh yeah, makes too much sense.
You don't have to go off fake wins and losses. Just go off the fact that he hasn't done anything well in about 18 months.
ReplyDeleteI like Kane, but he's being terribly misused at this point. The crowd doesn't buy him as a credible threat to win the World Title, so he needs to be used in other avenues, either as part of a tag team or an enforcer type in a faction that doesn't really pursue titles anymore.
ReplyDeleteso now again, just to be picky, what are we exactly talking about when it comes to "bad year"? A bad year where the guy involved is personally miserable and hates everything about said year? Or a "bad year" when it comes to IWC appreciation? I'm just saying that for him personally, I'm guessing this is an awesome year for him.
ReplyDeleteShe made WWF A LOT of money dude. Russo picked the right one to promote
ReplyDeleteEspecially that one from Final Fight. Haggar FTW!
ReplyDeleteIf there was tension there they probably wouldn't make a point to honour Andre from time to time. They just wouldn't mention him at all, I would think.
ReplyDeleteSlapping someone in a workplace is wrong and definitely an offense that warrants termination...but dammit, an office worker should NOT be saying shit about a wrestler!
ReplyDeleteOkay....this is an unpopular opinion but I'm going to say it: I don't get the Andre love.
ReplyDeleteI mean, I understand why he was a big deal at the time. He was huge and people hadn't seen an athlete his size. So I get that.
But he's basically Great Khali to me. His promos were just as indecipherable and starting somewhere around 1980, he became just as terrible in the ring as Khali. He was in high profile matches at the first 2 Wrestlemanias, and then, even though he could barely walk without looking like he was going to fall down yet he main evented the biggest WM of all time in a match that is unwatchable today and then he just kept getting worse and worse.
I understand it's because his health was declining and he's such a big guy, but seriously....aside from being a huge draw due to the freakshow factor of his size, what is it about the guy that makes him ANY different whatsoever from Great Khali?
Big Show is a million times the worker Andre ever was.
Not funny
ReplyDeleteHow about "bad year" when every feud he's involved in is really terrible? He was forgettable against the Wyatts, added nothing as Corporate Kane and his re-branding as Demon Kane made absolutely no sense, just like becoming Corporate Kane made no sense.
ReplyDeleteSo "Bad year when it comes to IWC appreciation" then. Got it.
ReplyDeleteWasn't trying to be, really.
ReplyDeleteAt least it was a soft landing
ReplyDeleteYes. Why would we particularly care about Kane's personal finances and thriving family life? Why in the hell would we ever use that as a gauge of measuring someone's artistic success?
ReplyDeleteTalk shit about Brock Lesnar's wife, yeah, that seems smart...
ReplyDeletewell, 99.9% of wrestlers are in specifically for the money. So I try to see it from their point of view. That's usually why I find myself agreeing with Nash more often than not in his shoot interviews. He has SCOREBOARD.
ReplyDeleteI agree with that part, just too bad they had to absolutely destroy Mero's career in the process. Use her to get over, definitely. But afterwards, they basically just forgot about him.
ReplyDeleteAnyone else seeing everything going on with this situation as a bit of a work?
ReplyDeleteNow I want to play that. The Sega CD version is the shit, and just about the only reason to own a Sega CD.
ReplyDeleteAndre was much more than Khali in his younger days.
ReplyDeleteBut mostly just nostalgia. Anyone who was 7-10 years old in 1987 will always remember Andre well.
Would the DVD really sell though? I find Andre incredibly boring, and I'd imagine the DVD target age group do too.
ReplyDeleteSofter than a trap door, AMIRITE?
ReplyDeleteWhy the HELL would we see it from the point of view of their bank account? Do you also watch sports and say "Matt Schaub is a terrible quarterback who got released from Houston and picked up by an even worse organization in Oakland. But he's making millions of dollars so it hasn't been a completely terrible year!"
ReplyDeleteAgain, why should wrestling fans on a wrestling blog discussing things that happen on a wrestling program instead argue that someone's match or feud should be judged on how much money they made? You're not giving a good reason for caring about such a thing. You're making an argument from the point-of-view from a non-wrestling fan.
And you call me not funny...
ReplyDeleteAfter his big knee injury, he was a shell of what he used to be.
ReplyDeleteDude, don't even waste your time with this shithead.
ReplyDeleteBut how is that different from the rest of his career? Kane has been part of some of the worst angles ever.
ReplyDeleteYep, he had to reinvent himself. But I remember that a PPV after SummerSlam 1998, he got a shocking win over Droz, and he actually used the Shooting Star press. I thought he was officially "Back" to his old self... then he just vanished.
ReplyDeleteThey should have kept Kane as Bryan's friend who occasionally tags with him/comes out to save him in main event scenarios and when Bryan doesn't need him he can have some kind of interesting mid card feud. But nope, the WWE style is to pretty much act like they were never friends or had any interaction in the first place.
ReplyDeleteDidn't he murder the girl after they saved her? I recall him being in irons in SF Alpha.
ReplyDeleteHe needs to be used as an agent or trainer or whatever. He has no value at all as an in-ring competitor anymore.
ReplyDeleteAnd attempting to make an Owen Hart death joke is?
ReplyDeleteHE JUST GOT WARRIORED #WCW
ReplyDeleteFair enough, but Kane's been around for 16 years now and his feuds continue providing diminishing returns. The Fake Kane stuff in 2006 was pretty awful, but when he's involved in a bad feud in 2014, it's awfulness is magnified. That's just me anyway.
ReplyDeleteLike you just pulled off an Owen death joke?
ReplyDeleteEh, I like VJ, but when he doubles down on being a contrarian, it makes my head spin.
ReplyDeleteI just can't people that have that "I'm better than the IWC" attitude... while commenting on the smarkiest website on Earth. See also: Dougie.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it gets tiresome for sure.
ReplyDeletegod I hate WWE for dropping that fake Kane angle. That was cartoony cheesiness at its best!! And to make it worse, THEY HAD FAKE KANE BEAT HIM CLEAN THE NIGHT BEFORE THEY DROPPED IT!! *AT LEAST* drag it on until Kane wins a rematch!!
ReplyDeleteBeat me to it. Damn you.
ReplyDeletethanks for at least not calling me a "shithead". That is appreciated. :)
ReplyDeleteI liked corporate Kane. It was fun for a little while.
ReplyDeleteI think Droz would like to have a word with you....
ReplyDeleteCreatively, I guess?
ReplyDeleteI have always said that I understood the logic there. Good year for a regular wrestler, bad year by John Cena's standards. Sort of like a 30 goal season for Gretzky, or a semi finals loss for Michael Jordan during their primes. They have a certain standard they set themselves to.
ReplyDeleteIt's too bad Sunny wasn't clean because if she was, I think she would've been much better in the Sable role.
ReplyDeleteWhatever year it was Ken Kennedy went from being the planned up-and-coming pushed star to suspended, buried and eventually fired, relegated to TNA Hell. That's a notable one.
ReplyDeleteSable wound up being a lot more marketable then Mero ever would have been.
ReplyDeleteI did like Warrior's answer to that during a shoot several years ago.
ReplyDelete*with a bit of a sarcastic smile" "Oh come on Davey?? Davey was gone WAY before that trap door thing ever happened. (speaking about the out of control drug abuse)
Named Cody AND works in social media? I'm air slapping him right now as we speak.
ReplyDeleteYep, even during the start of the Diva era, Sable was a distant #3 to me behind Sunny and Marlena. She was hot for sure, the others were just hotter and actually had a personality/charisma on top of that. Sable was always just a big plastic barbie doll with implants to me.
ReplyDeleteNever Forget
ReplyDeleteFunny story - There is a security guard where I work who looks and dresses almost EXACTLY like Corporate Kane. I haven't had the balls to talk to him yet.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. His corporate double talk BS, while still talking in his psycho voice was kind of fun.
ReplyDeleteBret Hart in 1998.
ReplyDeleteI absolutely agree with this. Sable was always number 3 to me in the original diva triad.
ReplyDeleteIt was Sunny with a commanding lead, and then Marlena as a distant but clear second, and then Sable bringing up the rear.
Risk the inevitable choke slam, and snap a pic of him.
ReplyDeleteProbably not what he was going for. It's like including Benoit or Owen into it.
ReplyDeleteI don't event remember Marc Mero being on TV past the Sable feud. I seriously only remember up until the mixed tag where Edge was Sable's partner.
ReplyDeleteYou know what? Fuck it, I'll try. Who knows, maybe he'll be lighthearted about it.
ReplyDeleteKennedy went from Austin-endorsed, next superstar, to basically nothing in the span of roughly a year, didn't he?
ReplyDeleteThank you. VJ is to WWE what WCW1987 is to TNA. Except VJ's been at it much longer.
ReplyDeleteYeah I agree. After a dismal '98-99, they should have just reverted him back to the old babyface gimmick (and music!) for a nostalgia run in the mid-card. Yet they stuck with the same old heel character that drew zero heat on into 2000
ReplyDeleteShe's a C-U-N-T. A fake plastic whore who isn't worth the spilled jizz. And I bet Brock would agree with that, too. Just because he fucks it doesn't mean he respects it.
ReplyDeleteYep. Best injury ever, as it led to him being placed where he belongs (TNA, aka, nowhere)
ReplyDeleteHey I just said Kennedy. I demand satisfaction!!
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm defending a company that is actually generally profitable. So you can remove "delusional" from the list. :)
ReplyDeleteSorry, I hadn't refreshed. I get all the VJ love, stick that in your pipe!
ReplyDeleteYou're a different kind of delusional. Just as bad, just different.
ReplyDeleteI always found it strange that I found 2003 Sable hotter than 1996 to 1998 Sable. Not sure why.
ReplyDeleteJust because I don't believe that WWE is the worst company in history, delivering the worst product in recorded history, and I find it perfectly acceptable, despite a few minor flaws here and there?
ReplyDeleteOk, i'm totally deluzionalz, dude!!
I'd love to see an Andre documentary, there's probably a lot of good stories that can be told judging by how people speak of him in shoots. But, a DVD of his matches? I'll pass, and I understand why WWE may want to avoid doing that. I know of his great work in his younger days in the 70s, but everyone in US knows him from the Wrestlemania era, and he was a broken down giant slowly dying by then, sadly.
ReplyDeleteIf they haven't done a DVD on a talent, 9 times out of 10 I'm betting it's because they don't think it will sell. I'm guessing the other older-school talents they did DVDs on over the past years might not have sold (Billy Graham, Dusty), so perhaps they are gun shy about doing another one from that timeframe.
ReplyDeleteHaters be hatin', eh??
ReplyDeleteRight there. A lot of people remember him only as the slow-moving behemoth that fought Hogan at WM3 and could barely walk or take a bump.
ReplyDeleteThey totally teased that right around KOTR 99 on Raw!!! He got "fired" from the corporation, actually came to the ring with his old music... then just said "I love you guys!!" and went back. OH COME ON!!!!
ReplyDeletePointing out that someone used to be ambulatory is sorta damning with faint praise.
ReplyDeleteWell he was never Shawn Michaels, but compared to his later self, or Khali ever, he could run circles around them.
ReplyDeleteI had the Sega CD but never that. There was a convenience store that I'd ride my bike to as a kid that had 2 machines that I spent way to many quarters in though - Final Fight, and TMNT.
ReplyDeletedbry would like a word with you, and owen and benoit would like a seance
ReplyDeleteI believe it was A & E that had a doc on him around 2000, it was pretty good. Ever seen that one?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZbmR8rnJvk
b/c all his matches would be boring?
ReplyDeletei mean, c'mon, there was only so much he could do
even recently on the blog i've seen it discussed that part of his fame was b/c of the time period. if he came around today he'd be nothing special
I agree with the commenter. Kane in 2008 when he won the ECW title and was god awful fat and bloated was almost as bad.
ReplyDeleteIf I recall, his last match was Capital Carnage in December 98, despite losing a 'retirement match' against Duane Gill on RAW a couple of weeks before.
ReplyDeletealso, not really sure that there is to say about him that would require a doc
ReplyDeletehe was big, started young, could drink a lot, was often in pain and cranky, and was a locker room leader
I don't even remember the retirement match. Poor Mero, hired with much fanfare and eventually injured, eclipsed by his wife who left him, and retired by a punchline.
ReplyDeleteBret's best moments in 98 were actually in the WWF...
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myce9ku-bHA
And the Biography they did on A&E covered his life pretty well already.
ReplyDeletesnuggles the dog
ReplyDeleteA marvelous theme song though
ReplyDeleteThis. Andre isn't exactly known for his workrate, and most of the people that watch WWE don't know who he is. Hell, he died before I started watching, and I've been watching for nearly 20 years. Even the doc part would be born. "He was born in France, had a genetic condition that made him huge, so he became a wrestler." Not exactly compelling stuff.
ReplyDeleteA one-hour network quick doc capped off with the WM3 match? Sure, that would work. A 3 disc set? No thanks.
and since it's wwe, sandow goes into the cake
ReplyDeleteI always wondered if the Kamala story is true.
ReplyDeletepulled a gun or something on andre, right?
ReplyDeleteI dunno if there'd be a big market for an Andre collection. He died a long time ago, and I'm sure that all of his notable matches have been published already.
ReplyDeleteHis obscure early stuff would make for a good network special for us nerds, but would anyone buy a DVD to see a bit of grainy, joined in progress Stampede footage?
in the meantime, in between time
ReplyDeletebye by now
Oh, and the "he drank 150 beers in a night" thing has to be bullshit. Forget about him being able to hold his liquor, you drink 1,800 ounces of any liquid in one session and you'll die of water intoxication no matter how big you are.
ReplyDeleteRando.
ReplyDeletethe amazing RANNNNNNNNNNNNNDOOOOOOO
ReplyDeleteand what i said was ed whalen's sign off
Yeah, supposedly Andre called him a nigger (as a joke, Andre had a fucked up sense of humor) so Kamala stuck a pistol up against his head. Andre was nice to Kamala after that.
ReplyDeleteI don't buy it. Me vs. Andre and I have an AR-15, you would still be wise to bet on Andre.
Kamala broke kayfabe. he needed to hold up a spear to his head.
ReplyDeleteThe Sega CD version is arcade perfect. Too bad Capcom never made the joystick thing for the Genesis like they did for the SNES.
ReplyDeleteSlipheed is pretty awesome too, and there's another schump for the Sega CD that's really great, but I can't remember what it's called at the moment.
And WCW1987 does his thing because he actually loves TNA and wants it to succeed. Vince is being a douche just for the sake of being a douche.
ReplyDeleteAlso, fuck Michael Jordan, especially Wizards Michael Jordan.
He does deserve a documentary treatment, but Christ, who's gonna sit thru a three disc set of his matches? Just do the doc, put it on the Network and thats it
ReplyDeleteSo there is zero chance that I actually find the WWE product acceptable, and often enjoyable? ZERO chance?
ReplyDeleteWith a watermelon in the other hand?
ReplyDeleteIt would be as hard to sit thru as Jake Roberts dvd
ReplyDeleteYou got your racist stereotypes all mixed me, man!! he's an african jungle savage, not a homey!!! (too far?)
ReplyDeleteYou could make that argument if they played it up throughout the entire year. But it never was treated like Cena was having a "bad year", it was just "oh, look at the bad year Cena's had" once they needed an angle for Wrestlemania.
ReplyDeleteGot any grape soda?
ReplyDeleteWell... What the heck did you want them to do? Right after WM 28, they would say "Boy, I wonder if Cena's gonna have a bad year. You think he's gonna have a bad year??" It hadn't happened yet. Only after his many disappointments (losing to Laurinitis, losing to Dolph, blowing the MITB, losing other shots vs Punk) did it become clear that he was having a bad year.
ReplyDeleteI have that DVD, my brother (who's not a wrestling fan) got it for me as a gift, probably because it was the first wrestling DVD he saw at Best Buy. The doc part is good but REALLY depressing, and the match disc might be the worst one WWE has ever put out. You know how people talk about WWE getting off on trolling their fans? The inclusion of the coal miners glove match is proof of that.
ReplyDeleteSince it's WWE, Damien Sandow is dressed up as the cake.
ReplyDeleteIf i'm not mistaking, that was Jake's only WCW non-squash singles match, right? He really didn't stay there long. Maybe they just wanted the name value of Sting?
ReplyDeleteOwen's last year was kind if a demotion. He spent a lot of time in that weird angle with Dan Severn and Steve Blackman, and the Blue Blazer thing was basically a comedy character, which was a step down from the treatment he'd received in the NOD.
ReplyDeleteThe guy's lucky it was a slap and not a punch.
ReplyDeleteImagine if he insulted hillbilly jim!
ReplyDeleteLinda McMahon in 2012. That Senate campaign wasn't like having one egg on the face but an entire jumbo carton.
ReplyDeleteI have the single disc that the WWF put out of Andre years ago and it was good, but doesn't really get one clamoring for a whole lot more. That said you could easily add a 2nd disc of matches and it'd be fine. A 3rd disc would be stretching it. Plus we're getting to the point where there are fewer and fewer guys left alive to share recollections of him. A new or expanded doc would probably have 10 minutes on The Giants That Followed like El Gigante, Big Show & Khaki.
ReplyDeleteAs for the appeal of Andre... it was another era. Andre up to about 1980 really was an amazing sight. Those people who came along around the time of Hulkamania have nostalgic memories from WrestleMania 3. Even most Andre fans, though, are left remembering how sad he looked not long after that and til the end. I remember that last appearance at one of the Clashes and he just looked like another big guy (I think he had shrunk with age down to about 6' 10" at that point).
I'm one of the few on here who actually like the guy, but as we all know, HHH had a horrible 2003 (from a non-kayfabe standpoint, to soothe Vince Jordan's nerves). The match with Booker was all right other than the finish, the NWA-inspired Goldberg bounty storyline was pretty cool, and his match with HBK on the last RAW of the year was great, but other than that, 2003 was a terrible year for him.
ReplyDeleteHow about bringing it up in, say, July or August, right in the middle of it? Not all the time, but every so often, with some subtlety. There's no doubt it could have been sold better that way.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't watching when Kennedy was around. Did people actually buy him as a main eventer within WWE?
ReplyDeleteSo considerate! Appreciated!
ReplyDeleteHow about Ryder in 2011? Gets himself over, gets to be Cena's buddy, gets the US title, loses the US title, gets destroyed by Kane, gets turned on by his girlfriend, loses at Wrestlemania, vanishes.
ReplyDeleteThe A&E bio is probably already better than anything they'd put together.
ReplyDeleteWWE released a book on Andre a few years ago, so I don't think that's it.
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't surprise me if they had mentioned it a few times. I certainly didn't watch every single show, so i can't confirm 1 way or the other.
ReplyDeleteI would.
ReplyDeleteYep. At the time, he seemed solid in the ring, really good on the mic and he was pretty over. Then he went to TNA and either his talent vanished or he was exposed.
ReplyDeleteYeah and the phrase "getting Rydered" is now synonymous with getting completely buried after getting yourself over.
ReplyDeleteI just watched the Toronto house show from 1984 where Andre was wrestling kimala in a cage and he WALKED THE TOP ROPE AND BUTTDROPPED HIM.
ReplyDeleteI think some of you who are knocking andre's work need to cool it. Most of you saw him when he was broken down at the end.
I was watching that last night, but I think one with Vince, Tim White, Frenchy Bernard (???) Hogan and Mene Gene telling Andre stories would be more fun.
ReplyDeleteWow, about that... I had an old magazine from around 1991, and the writer did indeed always write "Kimala" instead of "Kamala". Was that actually not a typo? Was that actually his wrestling name for a while?
ReplyDeleteI want to say he had a match with Bulldog at one of the COTC, but I might be wrong. And yes, "We own the WCW footage, so here's a Sting match".
ReplyDeleteThat poor dog.
ReplyDeleteNot sure about the Bulldog, but I do know they had a 4 on 4 Survivor Series style match, with Sting alone vs Jake, Rude and Vader near the end. Not sure if it was a money thing or a drug thing, but damn, I wish Jake would have stayed longer!
ReplyDeleteDid Funk knock him out in-ring or in some sort of offscreen incident?
ReplyDelete2014's been fairly shitty for Bryan.
ReplyDeleteHe still headlined and won Wrestlemania 30 and got married.
ReplyDeletereal life wise (people dying, injury), yes.
ReplyDeleteCharacter wise while he was healthy, hell no.
Plus he gets to sit at home now and watch the WWE NETWORK FOR ONLY 9.99!
ReplyDeletePeople were seeing through his schtick before he got axed. He was getting Road Dogg Heat (pop for his entrance, silence for his matches) for about 6-8 months before his departure.
ReplyDeletebut, but, his post WM opponent was not the guy who would have given the best star ratings!! And he showed concern for his wife's safety and retreated from a fight that ONE TIME!!
ReplyDeleteWhat the flying fuck does a Rock Bottom into DOGSHIT have to do with Owen Hart?
ReplyDeleteThat's... That's the joke.
ReplyDeleteSorry, can never tell on here sometimes. My bad. :)
ReplyDeleteYou think they could do something. They kind of own the A£E Documentary and they have that decent coliseum video from 1985 they rereleased on DVD in the 2000's. They probably have older footage now too. They have enough to do a legit two-disk set.
ReplyDeleteAlthough hearing Hogan talk about Andre farting on him at WrestleMania and how he weighed 700 ... No 800 pounds, brother finally has gotten old.
How about Steve Austin's 1995 ... hell, throw in Q4 of 1994 as well.
ReplyDeleteIt involved 2 former teammates of Owen. (I rule)
ReplyDeleteAnd Andre vs. Warrior from SNME was surprisingly his last decent match. Scott hates it, but I watched it recently and you almost believed Andre might walk out as IC champ.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, his match with Snake Roberts at Mania 5 is horrible. The guy got dizzy and the announcers had to fake Andre got hit by an invisible knee lift.
Me too! I never found late 90's Sable that attractive but when she came back in 2003 I was all 'Woah, she's really hot now."
ReplyDeleteAgreed with both counts.
ReplyDeleteThe Warrior match was a fun "2 power guys beating on each other", and the Jake/Andre match had soooo much more potential, but it just did not click AT ALL.
It's a short knee!
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, Snake vs. The Boss (Man, Is he big) in Japan was a great power match.
ReplyDeleteKENNEDY.
ReplyDeleteI still hate the fact that Orton got him fired, but his TNA run exposed him as the useless tool he always was.
That's what irritates me the most about Kane and Big Show. Nobody above the age of 6 buys them as a serious threat to the World title, so whenever one of them is placed in a PPV title match, you're basically begging people not to buy the show. Back in the day, title matches like Hogan vs. Bossman were relegated to Saturday Night's Main Event. Vince wasn't stupid enough to expect people to actually PAY for that match.
ReplyDeleteAhmed Johnson in 1997 stands out to me. Started the year as one of the most over babyfaces on the roster, turned heel, got injured the following week right before his scheduled World Title match on PPV, when we returned his heel spot was taken by Rocky Maivia, so he turned babyface again to much less fanfare and then dwindled down the card until he was released in early 1998.
ReplyDeleteThat's debateable. Nothing wrong with having a huge guy for some of the smaller workers to bounce off of. (Yeah, I know, Ruzev, but a) I don't think he's there yet and b) I'm not sure he'll ever actually get there.)
ReplyDeleteDidn't Kane beat his ass the next night on Raw, though? I distinctly remember Kane heaving him out a door.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Fake Kane dominates and beats him at the PPV, the next night, Kane just beats him out of the building, and the locks were apparently very effective, as he never returned. WHAT THE FUCK?
ReplyDeleteDAMN. Don't sugarcoat it, tell us how you really feel.
ReplyDeleteBooker T, 2004.
ReplyDeleteTriple H was right, those people just aren't fit for stardom.
I'm sure he meant ex-WCW employees by that.
ReplyDeleteMatt Hardy in 05?
ReplyDeleteOnly if he's right there next to you. You have an AR-15 and 2-3 yards distance between the two of you, even money.
ReplyDeleteThat's probably his best year as a singles wrestler. Or 2002.
ReplyDeletehttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4kGWFk4ZcWQ
ReplyDeleteThere won't be one until Vince learns that Andre was in a popular movie. So....there will never be one.
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