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Daniel Bryan Update

According to PWInsider.com, Bryan was sent home from the European tour after getting injured in a match on April 9th and is expected to miss about four weeks as a result. 

http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/0422/592633/update-on-how-long-daniel-bryan-will-be-out-of-action/



Tag Team Champions Going Babyface?

Originally, Tyson Kidd & Cesaro were going to defend the WWE Tag Team Titles against the Lucha Dragons at Extreme Rules. However, the team got over big during the European tour and the company will at least position them as faces at Extreme Rules as a result. No further word if they will be a face team permanently, however.

http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/0421/592622/backstage-news-on-the-wwe-tag-team-champions-working-as-babyfaces/



RAW Ratings

RAW did 4.03 million viewers this past Monday, much higher than last week's taped show from England. Here is the hourly breakdown:

8pm: 4.11 million viewers
9pm: 4.14 million viewers
10pm: 3.87 million viewers

http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/118-daily-updates/42185-raw-ratings-notes



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Comments

  1. In 2015, Scott Steiner draws more than Virgil. But not by much...
    https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10432131_637258026405225_102613309680212314_n.jpg?oh=e2d34f5a518d2ddd4a8f50ee51bd8b5b&oe=55D21CBE

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  2. Goddamnit, did the ratings really have to go up with the week HHH came back?

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  3. I did like his promo a few months ago where they just let him talk. It didnt come across as scripted, they didnt sit him in a damn room backstage pre-taped (my spell correct changed that to 'pre-raped' for some reason... I caught it though), and it got him more over and somewhat relatable so of course they never followed it up with anything.

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  4. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©April 22, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    In all honesty, he was getting over with his strength and athleticism, so he should have just been a face to begin with.

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  5. No it went up because I'm that damn good! - HHH

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  6. DANIEL BRYANS CAREER IS OVER.....DEAL WITH IT!!!!

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  7. Yeah, but in her defense, who of us hasn't passed out at a porn convention from drug use?

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  8. ROCK-em SOCK-em Robot!!!!April 22, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    I really liked when Kane was working at the concession stand and Ryback was harassing him and eating all his hot dogs.

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  9. Thank you for saying that so I didn't have to.

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  10. Ryback - just like Punk - was a guy who suffered from the WWE's determination to do "twice in a lifetime".

    He somehow got over huge in the span of a month (I'm still not quite sure how) and was shoehorned into the Cell Match with Punk. But because the plan was always Punk to Rock to Cena, they had to find a way for him to lose so Punk could keep his momentum. It looked like they put together the Brad Maddox thing at literally the last second in desperation as it really went nowhere at all.

    Then when they worked out a proper way for him not to win the next month (The Shield) they suddenly realised the month after "oh no, we've got massive plans for these guys as well and they've just debuted" so they couldn't lose either.

    By this point he'd got the three losses and as the Rumble was always going to Cena he wasn't winning there either so four straight losses and he was basically a dead man walking.

    They could have perhaps saved him with the Henry match but by that point they'd already given up on him as a face and the heel turn was in the works. No way where they going to risk face/face with Cena geting booed after going through all that just so Cena could beat The Rock.

    So while I doubt he would have ever been a big star - he was a also a victim of circumstance.

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  11. I think his push was kyboshed in part that he wasa dangerous as hell in the ring and hurting the top talent.

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  12. One day, I was out walking, I saw a quarter laying on the sidewalk. As I bent to pick it up...


    Worst thing is, it turned out to just be a bottle cap.

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  13. I honestly believe he is honesty a big hypocrite.

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  14. Whenever they give Ryback a promo he manages to come across as really honest and sympathetic, and it's so weird that they don't take advantage of that. You have a Goldberg-style demolisher who's a relatable person! How is this difficult?

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  15. "Ween" Dean AndrewsApril 22, 2015 at 8:06 AM

    "Apparently when you're NOT high on drugs 24/7 you tend to be a calmer person. Who knew?"


    Noted insanely furious rageaholic weed advocates RVD and Kevin Nash are nodding in agreement at this I'm sure.

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  16. "Ween" Dean AndrewsApril 22, 2015 at 8:06 AM

    Daniel Bryan?

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  17. What's always baffled me is how he learned to talk seemingly overnight

    He just kinda came off like a complete dumbass when he was Skip Sheffield, with his retarded "YEP YEP YEP, WHAT IT DO" catchphrase, but when he stood atop that ambulance and out-promoed John Cena out of the blue, he totally won me over.

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  18. I think they really blew an opportunity with Ryback. The guy got over in a natural way and the HIAC main event with Punk was super over and intriguing as to how it would be booked. I agree that a schmozz finish was appropriate there to keep the momentum going. But the timing was just poor for a big title win, unless you were going to have him retain it against Brock or Punk at WM 29, which doesn't scream big money in hindsight.

    They needed a big strong over babyface and they had it for a flash, especially with Cena's injuries at the time. The booking, in general, was extremely touchy and limiting at the time because of the set-in-concrete Rock title win and rematch with Cena.

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  19. I agree with everything about the '87 Patera comeback--he was done, lost his look, and on top of everything else he was booked badly. I kind of wish it didn't take away from the fact that from 1978-82, he was a brilliant talent who was good enough in all facets to be NWA World Champion, and who probably main evented more buildings across the country than anyone else in the U.S. of the time outside of maybe Race and Flair. He's a borderline Observer HOFer, IMO.

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  20. Smoking a joint doesn't usually fall under the "high on drugs" banner.

    Anyone smoking weed 24/7 is going to be a calm dude.

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  21. ROCK-em SOCK-em Robot!!!!April 22, 2015 at 8:13 AM

    That's an underrated great promo. I think that's where I jumped on The Ryback's bandwagon too.

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  22. also ... accusing HHH of beating her probably hasn't helped.


    She deserves to be in the hall of fame because she was as important as anyone in the Attitude Era, but I don't blame WWE one bit. There is broken-down bitter wrestlers, but Chyna makes them look like the league of women voters.

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  23. AverageJoeEverymanApril 22, 2015 at 8:16 AM

    Porn parodies are one of this generations real artistic achievements.

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  24. AverageJoeEverymanApril 22, 2015 at 8:17 AM

    Id include him in NWO as well actually. May be messed up to think of him as a 2 time HOFer but he was important in both.

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  25. The apter magazines were super kayfabe so they were just making up Patera wrestlemania stories to sell his comeback. The observer never reported he would face Hogan at Mania 4

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  26. I was 7 when he returned and I thought he was Richard Simmons :)

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  27. The best part is when Cena was making poopy jokes or whatever it is he does, and Ryback just started talking over him with "OH, HOW ORIGINAL JOHN! HOW ORIGINAL!"


    I was thinking "oh my lord, this man is shooting. He's gonna lose his job and possibly his life."

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  28. The Love-Matic Grampa!April 22, 2015 at 8:22 AM

    You know, drugs are bad and all that, but professional wrestling was much more exciting and entertaining when everyone was all coked up and wired. Now, I'm sure the guys are much healthier and less likely to commit felonies, but they're also pretty boring.

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  29. At this point Vince didn't realize the need for having affiliated regional territories to help wrestlers develop and/or shake off ring rust because Patera certainly needed it since he didn't wrestle for almost two years.


    It was a weird time because Vince was bringing back a lot of older wrestlers like Killer Khan, Sika, Blackjack Mulligan mostly for monster of the month stints. None of them made any real impact and simply disappeared after their short run was done. Patera was a natural heel and even as a face he came off as unhinged. He was 43 years old so he had an uphill battle to begin with. It probably would have been better if they bought back Patera as a Hogan opponent of the month, mentioning his prison stint then have Heenan turn on him after he finished his Hogan house show series. He would have gained more sympathy since at least the fans would have been familiar with him for his short run with Hogan instead having to convince everyone he was a face from out of the gate. Of course something still needed to be done about his ring rust.

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  30. He just never got going. He never got in full gear.

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  31. As a kid I hated Ken Patera because he looked like crap.

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  32. I thought the podcast beef was way more amusing than the actual wrestling storyline.

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  33. Yep, I wish they'd take in a little more dregs-y type.

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  34. I don't think it's drugs - these guys are all just so homogenized and bland and can't/aren't allowed to think outside the box and be creative that they're just going through the motions. Even take a guy like Sandow, who clearly gets over and gets reactions no matter what they give him, he should be escalating up the card and isn't

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  35. They did that odd fitting of Punk into the main event in '08 by giving him a title he wasn't ready for. He recovered nicely but I see your point.

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  36. Mark Henry spent the last two years after being Brock Lesnar's abuse toy when he was pissed.

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  37. That job was so inexplicable. He lost b/c he fell over and Henry fell on top of him. If that's what they were going to do, they should've literally had him slip on a banana peel. Then he shellshocked Henry after the match anyway!

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  38. This is where the devaluation of the secondary titles is biting the WWE in the ass. Ryback in 2012 would have been a perfect US or IC champion if those titles had any value. While I do think he is better overall now, I can't deny he was over back then. Having him a dominant secondary champion would have kept him over instead being viewed as an overrated choke artist.


    Actually I am kind of hoping that Ryback is the one who eventually beats John Cena during one of the US title open challenges.

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  39. Since I only knew him from '87-'88 era coliseum videos I always thought he was this curly haired jabroni. I never had any idea until I got older and started reading about wrestling that he had this huge amateur background and crazy story and went to prison and all this other stuff.


    I wouldn't mind seeing a like, real documentary about Patera.

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  40. I mean, look at Saturday Night Live now compared to the cocaine era. Or music. Drugs help creativity, despite what the anti-drug patrol is going to respond to my post with.

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  41. X-Pac was in the sex tape but Chyna was in actual produced porn. I'd say there is a difference, a smaller semantic one but there's a difference.

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  42. Usually they just end up becoming "Indy Rat who lost her looks": See - Maria, Sunny.

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  43. Unless you were the kind of father who made a television storyline on your traveling wrestling company about how you pimped out said daughter to business associates when she was high school aged and then finished the story with a wrestling match in which you choke her with a lead pipe.

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  44. Sherri had more of her looks left, and charisma - her incoherent, rambling speech was hilarious even if it's sad in the rearview.

    Chyna is probably worse.

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  45. I met her at Great Lakes Crossing Mall around Royal Rumble 2001 and you had to buy her exercise tape to get a signature. She had a three hour line. Seems so weird now.

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  46. the correct answer is who gives a shit.


    --Triumph

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  47. Last week to strip the copper piping and buy Mexican crystal meth.

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  48. Exactly after he got out of prison he just looked awful. Moved terrible, weird looking 'fro, could barely speak coherently.

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  49. "Ween" Dean AndrewsApril 22, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    Yes to the second point, no to the former. And specifically as regards within wrestling, it's tested for and disallowed in the WWE and maybe other places, the same as if it were Cocaine or anything else.

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  50. Never noticed until now actually LOL! He was horrible. His match with Bad News Brown at Summer Slam was amazingly bad. Loved that on Botchamania!

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  51. I just meant that most civilians don't lump weed into the scary catch all of "drugs". It's obviously illegal almost everywhere.

    That's how it is around here, anyhow. Different everywhere I am sure.

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  52. As I said I think he's a hypocrite. Remember he also complained about WCW trying to put him out of business with talent rsids, after he put multiple companies out of companies out of business with talent raids.

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  53. OK, so my TV wasn't showing different episodes, I just missed the one time he was over.

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  54. Gee, I wonder why...

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  55. AverageJoeEverymanApril 22, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Maria has lost her looks? Not according to the ROH shows I see every now and again.

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  56. AverageJoeEverymanApril 22, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    And here we see Chyna's current state. Fully the results of the toll the Monday Night Wars and Ted Turner's full on assault of the WWE.

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  57. We did get major gunns.

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  58. "I guess you need to see it in person to really appreciate the size of Big Show's body parts. (I should know"

    That's where the e-mail really stopped

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  59. 3) Are you at least as good as me, Koko B Ware?

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  60. Oh right, this was at that point where Cena got "injured" and couldn't put Punk over in the Cell.

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  61. Im sorry, but what does any of this have to do with Joe Gomez?

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  62. Punk hated working with him, correct? I remember hearing the story about Ryback breaking his ribs, but I never followed up on it.

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  64. If the Outsiders were cool heels, which made them, why not eventually turn them face with the same cool heel act? The nWo was WCW's most popular act.

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  65. "Yet has anyone thought to remind HHH that Shawn was in Playgirl?"

    Did Shawn actually show his dick or have sex in Playgirl? No? OK, then.

    "Or that X-Pac was in the very same sextape as Chyna?"

    And X-Pac's not in the Hall of Fame, either, so...

    "Am I wrong?"

    Pretty much, yes.

    They really don't give too much of a shit about a wrestler's past when deciding whether or not to do business with them. Sunny is in and she started on Missy Hyatt's porn site. THAT is the comparison to make if you want to do that route.

    If they could trust Chyna not to show up drunk and/or pilled off her ass, slurring accusations of child molestation and domestic violence at HHH while calling Steph a bitch, she'd be in, too. Simple as that.

    When asked for justification on keeping her out, you can't publicly call her a drug addict if you don't have actual proof, so you grasp at something else that passes the PR sniff test.

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  66. I agree. Another scenario and maybe they do more with Ryback, and there was potential there. But Cena/Rock 2 did 1+ million buys. Yeah, it was down for 1.3 million for Cena/Rock 1 but I can't fault the WWE (in hindsight) for milking that cow.


    Still think WM 29 should have been a double main event with Rock/Cena on top without the title and Punk/Taker streak vs. title.

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  67. They didn't know when to end it with the nWo. It was going so well and making them so much money that it just kept dragging on and on and they wouldn't blow it off. Even the Hollywood/Wolfpac feud didn't lead to anything because they didn't want to end either one of those money trains.

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  68. Because guys like Ric Flair complain about them and blame the most popular act in WCW history for killing the company.

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  69. So turn the cool heel into a cool face? If I like the nWo why would I want then to lose?

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  70. DDP was cool until the jeans and back support era where he called everyone scum.

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  71. I don't know why people blame Hall and Nash for everything. They were tag team champions and goofed off on the mic most of the time. If anything the constant dependence on Hogan ruined things. Stif should have killed him off, but that couldn't happen. He ends up with the title over and over, they turn him face, everything has to revolve around him.

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  72. She's a fucking lunatic who after hearing her name mentioned on that podcast started making pathetic videos accusing HHH of beating her and threatening to kill him. Maybe he was trying to give a polite answer rather than point out she's a lunatic who would probably show up intoxicated, make a scene, and be found unresponsive in her hotel room the next day.

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  73. I've been saying that for years.

    I can't say that wellness is a bad thing, but it will stifle some of the character.

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  74. Ah yes, Punk's Reign of Terror. Was it designed so that no one but Punk got over during that year, or was it just Punk's ego that kept him from making anyone look good? Anyone know the details?

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  75. Rewatching DX invade Nitro is the only thing that brings a smile to her face these days.

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  76. If you believed Chavo - Cena is as bad as Hogan. Sadly, as much as I like Chavo - he might just have a ax to grind.

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  77. I don't think he's on good terms with anybody - except maybe Dan Reinhardt and Bruce Wilheim.

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  78. But what does the islanders have to say about this:

    http://youtu.be/MndXVB7teUU

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  79. But what the the Islanders think of that promo: http://youtu.be/MndXVB7teUU

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  80. You make a good point. It's not a huge deal. I like the nighters because there's always a lot of promotion and interest around them. But really, it's not a huge deal.

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  81. Yeah, I don't think he was ever "over huge". Even now he gets a very weird pop when he comes out. Everyone seems to be blase about it. It's like they're like, "Oh it's Ryback. ya." But then they like the chanting stuff.

    I don't actually mind the guy. I think he could get over more if they let him do more crazy rants on the mic. But if memory serves he was still getting mostly Goldberg chants in 2012.

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  82. There are no words to explain how stupid this is.

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  83. He was never as cool as Peter Cetera

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  84. You're supposed to boo him because he's out to destroy beloved wrestlers and a beloved company. Funny or not, true or not, he was out to do a bad thing.

    There's no rule that heels can't be entertaining, they just can't be good people. See Darth Vader, Hannibal Lector, and Walter White.

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  85. I think out also has to do with the perceived differences between sexes - a guy does a porno, and it's all high-fives for being so awesome and manly, a woman does a porno, and she's a slut and sub-human.

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  86. Something that always kind of bothered me, Ryback got his ass kicked by the Shield for like 6 months and NEVER got revenge. Just blamed Cena for not helping him and then Cena kicked his ass too. I'm a fan of all the guys involved but that really didn't make any sense.

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  87. I definitely think that's a huge reason for her downfall, and I find it sad that she's so (seemingly) messed up from a break-up that happened over fifteen years ago. She needs help.

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  88. I think Punk had no problem with him but through the course of working with him considered him dangerous and hated working with him.

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  89. Not a WWE one, like a real movie with directors.

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  90. Four straight PPVs against the sloppy guy that injured him legit less than a year earlier.


    And they wonder why CM Punk walked out.

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  91. I wouldn't count on Chavo as much of authority on any of these matters. He's got quite an ego himself for a guy that's never meant anything.

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  92. I don't believe that, as Cena had jobbed plenty of times to Punk - granted, most (all?) of them had an asterisk to the finish, but there's no reason they couldn't have done the same here.

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  93. ROCK-em SOCK-em Robot!!!!April 22, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    The Ryback= Rare monster that works better as a fave.

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  94. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonApril 22, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    No problem.

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  95. MaffewOfBotchamaniaApril 22, 2015 at 11:52 AM

    Lost to Henry at Wrestlemania.

    Immediately started main event feud with Cena.

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  96. Absolutely 100%.

    Punk's 500-day reign vs. Taker's Streak.

    Cena/Rock II either without a title, or for the WHC. (And if it's not for the title, you could easily put Ryback in the WHC scene.)

    ADR/Swagger for the US title.

    Brock/Trips rematch is fine if Brock goes over, but if not, he could have fought just about anyone else. Brock/Orton, maybe? Brock/Sheamus? Or just have Brock manhandle Show and win in five minutes.

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  97. ROCK-em SOCK-em Robot!!!!April 22, 2015 at 12:02 PM

    Other great Ryback moment:

    When Paul Heyman proposed to him and than gave him a kiss on the top of the head.

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  98. This needs to quit coming up. It was 50 goddamn feet from my seat and I didn't even realize it. I would have absolutely crowded around that and acted like an idiot mark on live TV. One of my life's greatest regrets.

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  99. Even with the WHC he wasn't anywhere near the main event.

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  100. When I first saw this headline, I just saw "Ken Patera Returning" and had all sorts of expectations built up that were subsequently crashed.

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  101. He was done in 87? Are you kidding? He won lots of matches on Wrestling Challenge and almost beat The One Man Gang on SNME and Bad News Brown at Summerslam 88! The guy was one move away from putting them away, but he just made a mistake or two. Clearly, he still knew his way around the ring and could headline a main event anywhere in... ok... I got nothing, I admit it.

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  102. I don't mind him losing to Mark since Henry rules, but what was really baffling as Maffew pointed out was that he lost a midcard feud and was pushed to a main event feud straight afterwards.

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  103. This is almost as hilarious as the Joe Gomez joke that wasn't at all completely played out and tired halfway through the Nitro review.

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  104. I always found the timing suspect.


    They had to change the main event of Survivor Series almost immediately after they found out Cena was "fine" when it supposed to be Team Punk vs. Team Foley.

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  105. He looked like a roided-up Richard Simmons.

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  106. Could be because its not stupid nor untrue. Just a stab in the dark.

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  107. Yeah, no one got over during Punk's "Reign of Terror".


    Except Bryan, Ryback, AJ, the Shield, etc.

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  108. Upvote (though I believe it's spelled "sympy"). I was watching at this time, and knew of Patera from the Apter mags, but other than attacking Heenan, Patera just never did anything impressive in this run.

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  109. It would've been ok if the feud continued into Extreme Rules but it strangely didn't. I mean I know they were hurting for challengers for Cena but shit Punk was right there until a proper build for Ryback/Cena. No wonder the guy hated his life and quit.

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  110. All of Scotts points are spot on but I even found it more bizarre they just jobbed him to Mark Henry at that wrestlemania and then immediately put Ryback in the Cena program. Why not at least put him over Henry going into the two month Cena feud? Yeah I know Henry feuded with Cena after that but Ryback could have totally used that win.


    I kind of have always hated the WWF big lugs going back to like Warlord and Hercules but Ryback is really fucking entertaining. I don't want to see him in main event matches really but he's a good act for the roster. I actually wish they would use him more and keep him stronger.

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  111. Even the old Billy Madison quote would fall short there.

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  112. He really won me over during his Bully phase. That was classic. And his tweets were gold.

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  113. That was a classic promo. Ryback did fantastic in that Cena feud.

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  114. Two birds, one stone. Corporate efficiency at its finest!

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  115. Adam "Colorado" CurryApril 22, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    I think WWE just fines people for weed and it doesn't count as a strike. Everything else is a suspension.

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  116. I remember Sunny saying she wanted to do pregnant porn but I guess nothing came from it.

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  117. I agree. He has a goofy charm as a face. Sort of like if the class nerd had grown up into a monster and realised one day he could destroy anyone who bullied him. They should play on that a bit, let his real personality really surface.

    I'd also turn Axel face and reunite Rybaxel - I honestly think they could be really over as E&C style goofy faces who are completely nuts backstage.

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  118. Punk's opponents all got lots of Offense. As a heel he repeatedly one through fuckery.

    He wasn't even in the main event--how was he holding everyone under when he was still BELOW Cena vs Johnny Ace on the card.

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  119. He's on the Giants documentary on The WWE Network. He's the one who presents the Big John Studd segment.

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  120. I kinda marked when he said, "Say hello to Beezelbub!"

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  121. The problem with Nash is that everytime he turns face, his coolness factor dies.

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  122. Adam "Colorado" CurryApril 22, 2015 at 1:58 PM

    I don't know why people blame Hall for anything really. Nash I understand, he was all about politics and his booking run was a disaster, but Hall seemed fine just tagging along. Really, I think he wouldn't have cared if he was jobber as long as he got paid and there was blow and cold beers backstage.

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  123. I only knew Ken Patera as a jobber. Also, he's still insane. That's a shoot Bayless needs to review

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  124. Hall has a good mind for the business too and the wrestling world missed out on the guy not becoming a booker.

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  125. I doubt this will be a popular opinion, but fuck it. Ryback should have been the one to end CM Punk's reign at Wrestlemania 29. They could have had Cena cost Rock the match at the Rumble (maybe even accidentally if they really wanted to keep Cena squeaky clean for that program) to set up their WM rematch (which did NOT need the Title involved, at all). Punk's 400+ day reign should have been used to make a new top guy, and Ryback was definitely over enough to warrant that spot.

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  126. Bryan and Ryback got over during the Reign of Terror? Damn, color me ignorant. I don't remember that at all. I do remember both getting squashed though...

    AJ?

    The Shield got.over because of Punk? How so?

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  127. Now THATS a stupod comment. I dunno man, let's think hard. How could he hold anyone under when he was #2?

    Tons of offense? Outstanding. So who got over?

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  128. I, for one, welcome the day when Scott Steiner comes back to the WWE as a Classy Freddie Blassie-esque manager and "Fat Asses" becomes the new "Pencil Neck Geek".

    What do you think, 30 more years?

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  129. I wish they could have kep the former WWF-vibe going with just a stable of ex-WWF wrestlers. I bought the Giant's heel turn because he was "Andre's son," but in hindsight it was a bad idea. My never really liked Savage again after he turned in 1997, although having him turn face in 1998 was okay - but we needed that in 1997 when he turned heel. His 1999 "new age WWE attitude" look and theme music worked at the time because he was trying to do a Austin thing.

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  130. Remember that Nitro where that cracked up Tony and Bobby for real that next week Hall and Nash destroyed everyone at ringside and Nash said to Tony - think we're funny now?

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  131. Daniel Bryan, for one.

    Punk doesn't book himself. Punk also didn't lose any matches where the obvious story is he lose (like HHH over Booker T, or HHH over Goldberg )

    Punk turned heel even though he didn't want to. Punk didn't think he should lose to Rock when he did but did the job because he's not married to the bosses daughter.

    How exactly is his title run where he wasnt the main focus of tv the same as HHH running everything and CHOOSING to face up and comers to cut their legs out (lord knows punk didn't choose to work with Ryback) while opening raw every week with 20 minute promos about himself the same?

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  132. Kevin Owens isn't portrayed as super dominant though.


    His victory over Sami was super close, its just that a (kayfabe) concussion kept Zayn from finishing Owens and he took advantage of the opportunity. Same deal with Balor, Balor almost won, he just got injured and couldn't finish.


    Owens is portrayed at around the same quality of the babyfaces, he's just been lucky and clever enough to exploit his luck.


    Also, he spends too much time shit-talking the audience to be cool.

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  133. Maria's never photographed as well as she looks on video.


    I've seen some footage of her in Japan...she looks fine.

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  134. Hey, I used to write for Nitro.

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  135. Check out ROH video. She looks fantastic. Way hotter than WWE days.

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  136. The Joe Gomez of his time to be sure.

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  137. if someone would have taken ten second to tell the guy to get a haircut and buy some new tights it could have all been different for him...

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  138. i still can't believe Bad News Brown made the ropes on that full nelson attempt... so close

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  139. I honestly think "cool" heels fuck up the business. Sure, certain heels get over (Sid and the Horsemen, to name a couple examples) but both still always did awful things and showed ass. It's okay when a small minority of fans latch onto a heel as their thing, but when much of the audience is wearing NWO merch, they're just not heels anymore and the whole thing has spun out of control

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  140. The entire NWO angle ultimately made no sense because you had Hogan & Bischoff working secretly to control a company that they both already controlled publicly. They had the NWO as a stand-in for the WWF, yet they had just spent years portraying the WWF as an enemy, yet turned WCW into a copy of the WWF, yet had Bischoff call out the WWF as head of the NWO. All it did ultimately was fracture WCW's audience into different groups, then over time drive away most of those groups as they failed to deliver a satisfactory conclusion to any story that would appeal to any of those groups.

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  141. Chyna should make the Hall of Fame and Hunter should induct her. Then, they should make a WWE Network Greatest Rivalries documentary about Hunter vs. Kane and have talking heads comment on the Katie Vick angle. Stupid fucking email.

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  142. yeah, if there had been a point where WCW reversed the roles, with the NWO actually turning out to be the people trying to save WCW from itself, it would have made a ton more sense

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  143. CruelConnectionNumber2April 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    Patera only got a home video because JYD was fired and the JYD video was to be released. They eventually brought JYD back soon after.

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  144. Punk played it the same way. Certainly a lot of people liked them, but their personas on the screen were chickenshit, run-from-a-real-fight guys who only talked big when you weren't around or they could hit you from behind.

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  145. You know, Chyna might get in someday, just not right now while she's still an active pornstar. It's probably splitting hairs, but the stigma of having a sex tape released and being an actual salaried pornstar are quite different.

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  146. Yeah, ideally it would be from exhaustion.

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  147. This seems revisionist. Kevin Owens HAS been portrayed as super dominant.

    He comes in and ruthlessly Pearl Harbors both Zayn and Neville to introduce himself to the fans.

    He's won every singles match he's had (televised or not) since joining NXT (except his match vs Neville which was a double count out.) (He's been on the losing end of both tag team matches he's been in...DON'T TEAM WITH OWENS!)

    In the title match that I watched, Owens was absolutely destroying Zayn (the ultimate "never say die" babyface). Zayn's superhuman endurance allowed him to make some desperate comebacks, but even Zayn's best wasn't good enough to put Owens down...and Owens injures Zayn so much that the refs stop a TITLE MATCH (when does THAT happen?)

    To me, that was dominance...not "super close".

    Owens takes Alex Riley's best shot and destroys him (with an added stomp for heel-brilliance's sake.)

    Owens then gives Finn Balor his first loss.

    I think "just lucky and clever" undersells it a bit.

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  148. I think that's why people put some of the blame on Hall. He didn't care...he just wanted to get paid and party.

    His repeated "You can have friends or you can have money. I HAD friends...I could use some of the money." is so different from the "I live for this business. I would die for this business" attitude that Triple H voiced in the WWF.

    The Outsiders invade WCW was awesome. But the "Who Cares? I'm Getting Paid" attitude seemed to taint so much of what became of the nWo extended storyline.

    (Personally, I don't blame Hall as much as I do Bischoff, Nash & Hogan for why it all went wrong...but he's not blameless.)

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  149. Why do you think I need the drugs?

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  150. My biggest take from this is the entirely believable notion that Vince could still be on VHS.

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  151. Well played.

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  152. WWF: Steve Austin (cool, take no shit, ass-kicker) vs Vince McMahon (evil corrupt boss)

    No matter how strong Vince was (and he WAS strong), Austin repeatedly got the better of him. Despite the odds being repeatedly stacked against Austin, the guy the fans cheered for got multiple opportunities where their guy won. (And when Austin got hurt, they moved The Rock right into the same role...just with added catchphrasey goodness.)

    Important to note: Despite being the owner of the WWF, Vince never made "the WWF" the heels. In many ways, the genius of the Attitude Era was that Vince made the fans think that THEY were "the WWF" and that he (Vince) was just the asshole who got the money.

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    WCW #1: The Outsiders (cool, take no shit, ass-kickers) vs WCW (wrestlers and corporate)

    Cool bad guys who were a legitimate and unpredictable threat was definitely the shake-up that the WCW needed because the WCW product had both become stale and too dependent on stale characters. That said, it was clear that The Outsiders were meant to be the bad guys...and it would be up to WCW to put forward champions worthy and willing to stand-up to the Outsiders. Good basic beginning of a story...except that it changed before it could be resolved.

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    WCW #2: The original nWo (cruel, by any means necessary heels) vs WCW (faceless company)

    Adding Hogan was brilliant--the shock factor of his first heel turn in decades gave a total reboot to what had grown tiresome. Hogan, however, wasn't really "cool" and he wasn't so much of an asskicker. But, the WCW couldn't muster a worthy or willing champion to stand up to the nWo, so the fans started cheering for the side that always seemed to win. (Who would continue to cheer on a bunch of losers? Cubs fans?--though there's hope this year.)

    Good twist to the original story...except that no resolution seemed clear at this point. Slow build to Sting gave WCW loyalists hope.

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    WCW #3: Bloated nWo (sponsored by management, allowed to wallow in excess, comprising of nearly everyone and anyone) vs absent Sting (but mostly against the WCW fans)

    Adding Bischoff made the nWo uncool. Winning all the time by nefarious means--while certainly heelish--did nothing to create drama. The nWo needed someone uncool to fight against to be cool (and if Bischoff thought that he could make the WWF the heels...he proved to be too into the meta-game and should have concentrated on his own product.) PLUS, he made WCW the thing that the supposedly cool side were against--without providing the WCW with enough reasons for the fans to keep believing in the WCW. They made the WCW fans the supposed bad guys. That's never good business. The limitations inherent in the nWo "winning" were made clear with the nightmare that was Souled Out.

    Greed factors here. nWo vs Wolfpac could have worked...but nWo Hollywood vs nWo Wolfpac was an attempt to both eat and have cake. They needed Sting...but just couldn't seem to let Sting really win. They fell into Goldberg...but they just couldn't let Goldberg really win. By the end, there was nothing cool about the nWo (which is why the WWE has never managed to recapture what the nWo "was" since acquiring the brand.)


    BOTTOM LINE: The WWF used to be good at giving the fans what they wanted...drama, certainly, but satisfying conclusions that lead to more drama. They had something to cheer for, something to root against...and a sense that what they cheered for was likely to eventually triumph, despite the odds. The WCW, on the other hand, didn't understand and never really gave a damn about their fans. They concentrated on shocks, swerves and the diminishing returns of cheering for bad guys when no good guys could ever hope to win. They never told a story, they sold t-shirts.

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  153. The Shield were Punk's muscle during the last legs of his reign.


    Neither Bryan nor Ryback were squashed by Punk. Bryan got a controversial loss in the Punk match when he had Punk tapping while he was getting pinned, and got more over as a result thanks to the YES stuff at the same time.


    Ryback lost to Punk thanks to shady referee nonsense and the Shield twice.


    AJ got over being involved in the title storyline with Punk and Bryan.

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  154. I'm pretty sure all did. Even the big one in chicago with cena had that McMahon ring montreal ring the bell nonsense which distracted cena. Besides Lesnar and Bryan I can't think of anyone recently he put over 100 percent clean. Although I.get the feeling im missing an obvious one.

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  155. She did? I thought she got over due to Bryan and being put over the entire roster.

    Pretty sure Shield got over at their performance at TLC.

    Ryback was squashed 4 months in a row, man. Nobody got over except Punk. It was a disgrace.

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  156. that one felt so "genuine" and so "real", convincingly putting over and explaining his comeback as well his faceturn in less than two minutes - which is why it is so mind boggling that this kind of promo wasn't on tv.

    (for everyone that doesn't remember: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdk1S3ySgLk - it starts at 0:35)

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  157. WWE: because fuck you!

    (= the usual)

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  158. ugh. I have totally forgotten all about that horrible angle.

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  159. I don't get it...did Bryan get over with Punk, the Yes Movement, Cena? Which one?

    What does HHH have to do with anything?

    On one hand, no he didn't book himself (though it is strongly suggested that he had a big hand in it) even so, he didn't have to make his opponents look like scrubs. And he didn't want to put over the Rock? Let me see if I get this straight. He doesn't want to lose to one of the biggest stars...ever...in preparation for his big WM match. That more than kinda a dick thing to do. You imply that he put over Rock as a generous and kind thing...as opposed to his goddamn job. And again...what does HHH have to do with anything? Why the constant misdirection? Yeah he did the job...and bitched and moaned and whined about it for over w year. Is asshole even the right word? Entitled asshole?

    Again...what does HHH have to do with anything? You and Punk were high if you thought he should have been higher on the card than Cena - the biggest star of this generation.

    And one more time...since when does Punk or you think that he gets the right to choose who he works with? Who exactly does this prick think he is? And it was obvious he didn't want to work with Ryback...he made that perfectly clear in their matches. Dude wasn't even professional enough to pretend he was going to have a good match. It was 400+ days of him being a dick and stroking his ego...and the biggest dick move? Even after the longest reign of this generation...he still bitches that he wasn't given enough. What, precisely, is this dude's fucking problem?

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  160. Calling it Punk's reign of terror was clearly you linking it to HHH between 2002-2004. Don't pretend now you called it a reign of terror by coincidence.

    The point is that Punk has a massive ego, yeah, but no careers were needlessly destroyed BY HIM.

    They call it HHH's reign of terror because he booked himself at the expense of the roster. CM Punk did, as you said, his job. I remember the time period very differently than you do (where it was actually the refusal to make champion Punk the focus of the show that motivated me to finally stop watching Raw.) But that doesn't matter.

    You act like Bryan got over from one thing, rather than continue get more over from several.

    I'd assume his "fucking problem" is that he thought there was more money in him losing the title at Wrestlemania. Clearly you disagree, but once again, no matter what Punk's opinion, he did the job, because he didn't have HHH's influence to refuse it.

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  161. Well, I don't have to pretend that it was "coincidence." You either believe it or you don't and neither one is my problem.

    But since you brought it up...curious how many careers HHH destroyed? Because almost everyone I can think of off the top of my head has went on to become champion and pretty successful. Booker T too. And sorry, the dude was just not over enough to justify winning the title at WM19. No way. He got over just fine from the match as he put on a great show and was elevated from that. I'm also thinking of all the times HHH has actually been the catalyst for someone's first title reign. Hey...I'm sorry, I didn't watch the show itself, but...didn't he tap out to Bryan at WM 30? And Benoit at 20? Hmmmm...yeah the guy is definitely using his power to hold people down. (Power that he got mysteriously, BTW...because it certainly wasn't because he has busted his ass for the company for 20 years. He's the boss' son in law because he used a love potion on Stephanie, just like on Raw. He totally didn't EARN her love and respect. Or the respect of Vince. Its a magic power he has.)

    Meanwhile...neither Curtis Axel nor Ryback have fully recovered from being Punk'd.

    And I'm sorry, but it speaks volumes about the guy that he thinks there was more money for him to lose the belt at WM than for the biggest star of yesterday and the biggest star of today to fight over it. That's just delusional and a narcissism that incant stress enough. And of course, the E made then right decision as a year later, Punk throws a bitch fit and quits. Or got fired on his wedding day. (I mean...really..he quit. And I'm not talking about quitting on AJ either.)

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  162. All the HOF discussions are so bizarre. Why does anyone give a fuck? The hypocrisy, cronyism and misogny in HHH's approach is worthy of discussion though, I guess. He has repeatedly said publicly that Chyna's sex tape nuked her chances of returning, but Waltman's back and he fucking made it...

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