August 16, 1987
From the Lacrosse Center in Lacrosse, WI
Your hosts are Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon
In action tonight will be Superstar Billy Graham, Koko B. Ware, and Rick Rude
Barry Horowitz vs. Superstar Billy Graham
Graham overpowers Horowitz, who is doing all of the work here. We get an insert promo from Butch Reed telling Graham he is proud after attacking him during the posedown and will attack his injured hip. Back to the match as Graham hits a backdrop then catches Horowitz in a bearhug for the win (1:40).
Thoughts: Graham was essentially immobile here as Horowitz bumped his ass of to make things look passable. This crowd was not that into Graham.
Craig DeGeorge gives us an update on the "Battle for Bam Bam" as he tells us he can do dropkicks and cartwheels. We then get a clip of Freddie Blassie who is unable to tell us which manager would be best for Bam Bam. A waste of Blassie here if you ask me and it did nothing to intrigue of the storyline.
One Man Gang w/ Slick vs. Billy Beauman
Gang attacks Beauman to start as the announcers talk about Gang being fined for attacking referees and wrestlers a few weeks ago after one of his match. Gang destroys Beauman as Slick is shown in an insert promo telling us that he will sign Bam Bam and put him together with Gang. Back to the match as Gang continues to beat the crap out of Beauman until putting him away with the front suplex (2:52).
Thoughts: They are gearing up Gang for the house show circuit against Hogan as he was being portrayed as a monster. I liked Gang here and too bad he couldn't have done more with that character.
Gene Okerlund is with Jake Roberts and asks him about his recent surgeries while mentioning how the Honky Tonk Man hit him with his guitar. Roberts then tells Honky he is an easy man to find and he has been stirring up while awaiting a rematch. He tells us that his biggest goal is to abuse the Honky Tonk Man, like he did to him. As usual, solid stuff from Jake.
Clips of the Don Muraco/Bob Orton split, with Gorilla officially telling us that they are done as a team. Too bad no one cared as they were booked as afterthoughts for this feud.
Brian Costello vs. Koko B. Ware
Koko hits a monkey flip and a pair of armdrags to start. The crowd is behind Koko here, who is now working the arm. Koko hits a dropkick after blocking a reverse rollup and follows that with a powerslam as the announcers mention Koko singing the title track of the "Piledriver" album. Costello backs Koko in the corner and tries a headbutt but that fails as Koko drops an elbow then goes back to the arm. Koko keeps playing to the crowd, who is really cheering him on, then there is a big miscommunication spot as Costello ducked his head while Koko ram him over. Koko then hits a missile dropkick while landing on Costello before getting the win with the Ghostbuster (3:24). Koko dropped Costello right on his head with that one.
Thoughts: The last 30 seconds or so of the match broke down with Costello fucking up left and right. I don't think Koko was too happy here. Anyway the crowd was firmly behind Koko, who got the biggest face reaction on the show.
Okerlund is now with newly crowned WWF Women's Champion "Sensational" Sherri Martel. She tells all the women in the WWF that this belt belongs to her while egging on the others to try and beat her. Sherri then tells us that she has the best body and is the best wrestler and can cook the best as well. She closes by telling us she is so happy that she parties every night with the belt. Given her history that was probably a shoot. Good promo by Sherri. We were not used to them by the WWF women's wrestlers at this point either.
We are shown the Hart Foundation vs. Jim Powers & Paul Roma match from the 8/8 edition of "Superstars of Wrestling" where Mr. T as the enforcer overruled the match in the favor of Powers & Roma when he saw Hart cheat on a rollup.
DeGeorge is on the podium with "Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase and Virgil. DiBiase cuts off the introduction and says that everyone knows who he is and that he is wealthy. He then tells the crowd he is better than the crowd as they are poor, unlike himself. DiBiase then tells the crowd they all have a price and he will show us how generous he is by giving away $300 then calls a lady up as he makes fun of her for looking poor. DiBiase tells her she can make $300 by barking like a dog then tells her to get down on all fours and bark in front of him. She obliges and barely makes any noise so DiBiase tells us that he wants to hear a high-pitched bark. The lady does so and earns $100 then gets another $100 each of two other barks. DiBiase then asks Virgil if she earned the money as he says no as DiBiase agrees and calls the crowd all a bunch of poor "dog faces" and "suckers" as the woman walks away without any money. This stuff really was genius. A simple and effective way to get heel heat and a great gimmick for house shows.
Now, we are shown David Wolff as he talks about producing the "Piledriver" album. He mentions calling Rick Derringer then talks about how well the wrestlers sung as he hypes it up.
"Ravishing" Rick Rude w/ Bobby Heenan vs. Sonny Rogers
Johnny V. has replaced Heenan on commentary. Before the match, Rude tells the men in the audience to be quiet so the ladies can see him remove his robe. Match starts with Rude slamming Rogers then taunting the crowd as he flexes. He then catches Rogers with a clothesline as we get an insert promo of Rude, with the camera zoomed in on his abs as he opens his robe. Rude then picks up Rogers and makes him submit to the backbreaker (0:57).
Thoughts: They are no starting to build up Rude's heel persona as he begins his ascension up the card. Rude looked good in the ring here.
Lanny Poffo & Mark Richards vs. Kamala & Sika w/ Mr. Fuji & Kimchee
We get an insert promo from Fuji to start but we see a photo of Bam Bam in its place as he tells us Bam Bam can be a "volcano." Poffo tags out after getting roughed up then Sika hits Richards with the Samoan drop and holds him down so Kamala can hit a top rope splash for the win (2:00).
Thoughts: Not much to this as Kamala & Sika were afterthoughts at this point.
Okerlund is with Mr. Fuji, who tells us that Killer Khan loves to be tortured. Khan comes out as Fuji tells us that all the "little Hulksters" will see Hogan get tortured. Okerlund keeps asking Fuji about Khan's training as Fuji tells us that he teaches him martial arts and hits him hard when he screws up as Khan is hitting himself. Fuji cut a more serious promo than usual here. It was alright I guess.
The medics are shown taking Richards out of the ring on a stretcher.
Next week in action will be Ted DiBiase, Randy Savage, Demolition, Brutus Beefcake, and the Junkyard Dog.
Final Thoughts: Not a bad show at all. We saw the TV debut of DiBiase's fan out of the crowd gimmick. We also got to see newer acts like the One Man Gang and Rick Rude pushed as well. The WWF was starting to build a nice collection of upper card heels at this time, which was a desperate need.
Here is my schedule for the next several days:
Saturday: RoH The Tradition Continues 10/16/03
Sunday: WWF Superstars of Wrestling 8/22/87
Tuesday: WWF Wrestling Challenge 8/23/87
Thursday: Highspots Shoot Interview with Brickhouse Brown
Friday: WWF Sam Houston Coliseum (Paul Boesch Retirement Show) 8/28/87
From the Lacrosse Center in Lacrosse, WI
Your hosts are Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon
In action tonight will be Superstar Billy Graham, Koko B. Ware, and Rick Rude
Barry Horowitz vs. Superstar Billy Graham
Graham overpowers Horowitz, who is doing all of the work here. We get an insert promo from Butch Reed telling Graham he is proud after attacking him during the posedown and will attack his injured hip. Back to the match as Graham hits a backdrop then catches Horowitz in a bearhug for the win (1:40).
Thoughts: Graham was essentially immobile here as Horowitz bumped his ass of to make things look passable. This crowd was not that into Graham.
Craig DeGeorge gives us an update on the "Battle for Bam Bam" as he tells us he can do dropkicks and cartwheels. We then get a clip of Freddie Blassie who is unable to tell us which manager would be best for Bam Bam. A waste of Blassie here if you ask me and it did nothing to intrigue of the storyline.
One Man Gang w/ Slick vs. Billy Beauman
Gang attacks Beauman to start as the announcers talk about Gang being fined for attacking referees and wrestlers a few weeks ago after one of his match. Gang destroys Beauman as Slick is shown in an insert promo telling us that he will sign Bam Bam and put him together with Gang. Back to the match as Gang continues to beat the crap out of Beauman until putting him away with the front suplex (2:52).
Thoughts: They are gearing up Gang for the house show circuit against Hogan as he was being portrayed as a monster. I liked Gang here and too bad he couldn't have done more with that character.
Gene Okerlund is with Jake Roberts and asks him about his recent surgeries while mentioning how the Honky Tonk Man hit him with his guitar. Roberts then tells Honky he is an easy man to find and he has been stirring up while awaiting a rematch. He tells us that his biggest goal is to abuse the Honky Tonk Man, like he did to him. As usual, solid stuff from Jake.
Clips of the Don Muraco/Bob Orton split, with Gorilla officially telling us that they are done as a team. Too bad no one cared as they were booked as afterthoughts for this feud.
Brian Costello vs. Koko B. Ware
Koko hits a monkey flip and a pair of armdrags to start. The crowd is behind Koko here, who is now working the arm. Koko hits a dropkick after blocking a reverse rollup and follows that with a powerslam as the announcers mention Koko singing the title track of the "Piledriver" album. Costello backs Koko in the corner and tries a headbutt but that fails as Koko drops an elbow then goes back to the arm. Koko keeps playing to the crowd, who is really cheering him on, then there is a big miscommunication spot as Costello ducked his head while Koko ram him over. Koko then hits a missile dropkick while landing on Costello before getting the win with the Ghostbuster (3:24). Koko dropped Costello right on his head with that one.
Thoughts: The last 30 seconds or so of the match broke down with Costello fucking up left and right. I don't think Koko was too happy here. Anyway the crowd was firmly behind Koko, who got the biggest face reaction on the show.
Okerlund is now with newly crowned WWF Women's Champion "Sensational" Sherri Martel. She tells all the women in the WWF that this belt belongs to her while egging on the others to try and beat her. Sherri then tells us that she has the best body and is the best wrestler and can cook the best as well. She closes by telling us she is so happy that she parties every night with the belt. Given her history that was probably a shoot. Good promo by Sherri. We were not used to them by the WWF women's wrestlers at this point either.
We are shown the Hart Foundation vs. Jim Powers & Paul Roma match from the 8/8 edition of "Superstars of Wrestling" where Mr. T as the enforcer overruled the match in the favor of Powers & Roma when he saw Hart cheat on a rollup.
DeGeorge is on the podium with "Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase and Virgil. DiBiase cuts off the introduction and says that everyone knows who he is and that he is wealthy. He then tells the crowd he is better than the crowd as they are poor, unlike himself. DiBiase then tells the crowd they all have a price and he will show us how generous he is by giving away $300 then calls a lady up as he makes fun of her for looking poor. DiBiase tells her she can make $300 by barking like a dog then tells her to get down on all fours and bark in front of him. She obliges and barely makes any noise so DiBiase tells us that he wants to hear a high-pitched bark. The lady does so and earns $100 then gets another $100 each of two other barks. DiBiase then asks Virgil if she earned the money as he says no as DiBiase agrees and calls the crowd all a bunch of poor "dog faces" and "suckers" as the woman walks away without any money. This stuff really was genius. A simple and effective way to get heel heat and a great gimmick for house shows.
Now, we are shown David Wolff as he talks about producing the "Piledriver" album. He mentions calling Rick Derringer then talks about how well the wrestlers sung as he hypes it up.
"Ravishing" Rick Rude w/ Bobby Heenan vs. Sonny Rogers
Johnny V. has replaced Heenan on commentary. Before the match, Rude tells the men in the audience to be quiet so the ladies can see him remove his robe. Match starts with Rude slamming Rogers then taunting the crowd as he flexes. He then catches Rogers with a clothesline as we get an insert promo of Rude, with the camera zoomed in on his abs as he opens his robe. Rude then picks up Rogers and makes him submit to the backbreaker (0:57).
Thoughts: They are no starting to build up Rude's heel persona as he begins his ascension up the card. Rude looked good in the ring here.
Lanny Poffo & Mark Richards vs. Kamala & Sika w/ Mr. Fuji & Kimchee
We get an insert promo from Fuji to start but we see a photo of Bam Bam in its place as he tells us Bam Bam can be a "volcano." Poffo tags out after getting roughed up then Sika hits Richards with the Samoan drop and holds him down so Kamala can hit a top rope splash for the win (2:00).
Thoughts: Not much to this as Kamala & Sika were afterthoughts at this point.
Okerlund is with Mr. Fuji, who tells us that Killer Khan loves to be tortured. Khan comes out as Fuji tells us that all the "little Hulksters" will see Hogan get tortured. Okerlund keeps asking Fuji about Khan's training as Fuji tells us that he teaches him martial arts and hits him hard when he screws up as Khan is hitting himself. Fuji cut a more serious promo than usual here. It was alright I guess.
The medics are shown taking Richards out of the ring on a stretcher.
Next week in action will be Ted DiBiase, Randy Savage, Demolition, Brutus Beefcake, and the Junkyard Dog.
Final Thoughts: Not a bad show at all. We saw the TV debut of DiBiase's fan out of the crowd gimmick. We also got to see newer acts like the One Man Gang and Rick Rude pushed as well. The WWF was starting to build a nice collection of upper card heels at this time, which was a desperate need.
Here is my schedule for the next several days:
Saturday: RoH The Tradition Continues 10/16/03
Sunday: WWF Superstars of Wrestling 8/22/87
Tuesday: WWF Wrestling Challenge 8/23/87
Thursday: Highspots Shoot Interview with Brickhouse Brown
Friday: WWF Sam Houston Coliseum (Paul Boesch Retirement Show) 8/28/87
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As far as character goes Sherri was so much above and beyond the other women at the time. It really is no surprise that she outlasted the women's division.
ReplyDeleteThe quarterly thing is silly because I don't think anyone actually calls their friend and says, "Hey, Wrestler X is on next, tune in!"
ReplyDeleteSid had a great Shakespearean approach. It made his matches with Hogan and Diesel watchable. Wrestlemania 8 is a hidden classic, and IYH 1 has a great three minute section. Sid vs. Sting at Havoc was incredible too.
ReplyDeleteI still find it odd that they had her (Sherri) beat a heel Moolah and then just turned heel out of nowhere. Moolah's face turn was nothing either as it consisted leading the face team at Survivor Series and getting booed out of the building. Her (Moolah) infamous 1988 promo on the women of wrestling video filmed in the new prime time set was a heel promo against the heel Sherri. The women's division died in 1989 with Rockin Robin holding on to the belt. She had a cool name, and wasn't a bad singer and as a kid I thought she was good looking. Although she did look a little like Sam Houston. Sherri had enough charisma to become a good manager and old 105 year old Moolah in 1998 actually knew how to cut a face promo.
ReplyDeleteFor my purposes and the people discussing "draws" I consider "old timers" to be guys who worked in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Hayes really had his heyday right before the WWF expansion era and into the early 90s.
ReplyDeleteare they? What about the rest of the card? Do we only buy a show for one match? Maybe Andre/Hogan (although that card was loaded anyway), but generally no. And again we get into the issue of opponents. So we would have to track each wrestler over a period of time, decide what was a main event or not, decide how much the main event deserved credit for the buyrate as opposed to the whole card, etc. In essence do what Vince does when he arbitrarily gives payouts for ppvs.
ReplyDeleteRockin Robin was a terrible singer.
ReplyDeleteVery well put sir. No sarcasm either.
ReplyDeleteSo...he's Orton?
ReplyDeleteSimple. Hogan, Savage and Piper. Bischoff said so.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking as a big Sid fan, I'd say he was popular with a lot of crowds but not exactly the kind of guy that can be credited with drawing money. I can safely say I've never bought a ticket or ppv specifically to see Sid.
ReplyDeleteOr honest. Either way.
ReplyDeleteReally? You must not have been watching any WCW TV then. They replayed the shit out of it after it happened. Blew my mind they allowed that.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't wish that kind of pain on my worst enemy. I merely twisted my ankle pretty well in college, and I thought I was going to vomit.
ReplyDeleteSeems like there should be at least one Great American Bash review
ReplyDeleteYou get a timeout.
ReplyDeleteJust finished watching the match in which Sherri defeated Moolah. Both women wrestled as heels. The match was basically which woman could cheat more. Sherri caught Moolah by surprise when she reversed a bodyslam. What was really interesting was how Monsoon didn't acknowledge Wendi Richter's title reign by constantly referring to Moolah's "28 years" as lady's champion.
ReplyDelete"Do we only buy a show for one match? Maybe Andre/Hogan (although that card was loaded anyway), but generally no"
ReplyDeletePeople buy for one match all the time, or at least they did when main ebent stars were strong and incredibly popular. Buying for the main event Is the entire mindset of a casual fan most of the time.
People bought wrestlemania 28 for the Rock vs Cena, make the rest of the card garbage they still sell ppvs. Solid undercards sell more ppvs to on the fence customers by putting it over the top but let's not pretend most ppv buys are decided on based on 1 or 2 matches.
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A hidden classic? Surely you jest.
ReplyDeleteHe could have just been referring to Moolah's first reign where that was the claimed length (1956-1984).
ReplyDeleteHe drew really good houses with Flair in that time frame from what I understand. So I'd say he was.
ReplyDeleteIn McBain voice: "That's the joke"
ReplyDeleteThere was a brief acknowledgement that Moolah's reign wasn't 28 consecutive years but overall there was no acknowledgement that she lost and then regained the title a little less than two years before. When Sherri won Monsoon and Jimmy Hart were treating it like she ended Moolah's 28 year reign. They didn't have to mention Wendy Richter's name but at least acknowledge that Moolah's current reign was less than two years old instead of treating it like it was one continuous reign.
ReplyDeleteYeah, live crowds always loved Sid, but again, live crowds liked Koko B. Ware as well.
ReplyDeleteSeriously this person needs to be banned. Fuck off spammer.
ReplyDeleteThat said, if you're randomly on Twitter on Monday and see that 'the Rock' is trending, you might check out Raw to see if he's made an appearance.
ReplyDeleteSid was an odd case as the guy was over huge every time he showed up, regardless of the promotion. He just had insane charisma.
ReplyDeleteYeah, treating it like Sherri ended the long reign is stupid because when Richter won the title, she was the one credited with ending Moolah's 28-year reign (Moolah actually lost it multiple times before 1984).
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ReplyDelete"Maybe you're all homosexuals?"
ReplyDeleteI'm in agreement here.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I think the feuds are bigger draws than particular talents.
Like, Owens vs. Cena is a hot feud. Seth vs. Ambrose was a hot feud. Cena vs. Seth...isn't really that hot, and I doubt Ambrose vs. Owens would get the people going either.
I'm just speaking as a fan who will watch Raw, but will wait depending on how bad I hear the show is. I watched this weeks Raw that night because I heard great things about the Cesaro/Cena match. To me, that's a draw.
I paid to see Bryan vs. Cena and Punk vs. Lesnar, they drew my money.
Now obviously I can't say what the crowd as a whole wants, but I know what I want.
Rusev
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CRUSH!
Yup. In a roundabout way, Cornette made the same point about Sable/Mero.
ReplyDeleteIt seems weird that only the heels in wrestling can have healthy, normal relationships (and it is!), but that's sorta how this weird sport works.
What about Macho/Liz?
ReplyDeleteI honestly think that the Lana super push thing was something Vince wouldn't stop talking about for, like, 2 weeks, but once it got rolling, he lost interest. Probably got distracted by negative Cena-related business indicators or some shit. If he was still invested in Lana, she'd be kicking Kevin Owens in the balls and making out with Cena, not playing #3 in a 4 person angle and making out with Kurt Russell's 80s-metal-obsessed brother.
ReplyDeleteThe act (Rusev AND Lana) got over. The one worked because of the other. What does Lana actually have to offer? Her hotness - debatable if you ask me - was derived from her uppity foreign heel shtick.
ReplyDeleteRusev Crush!!
ReplyDeleteBlowing Brocks title reign on a guy everyone ended up hating because bad booking and being forced to waste the MITB cash in to salvage everything.
ReplyDeleteLuger was a huge draw when he left the Horsemen, but constantly losing to Flair was killing him. He was MEGA over as a heel in 89 and had some of the greatest matches in that timeframe as anyone else not name Flair.
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ReplyDeleteScientifically speaking, only hardcore wrestling fans pay for shows and PPVs for midcard matches, 98% of fans pay for main events.
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The barking woman grew up to be ... Linda McMahon (or so I thought I heard once).
ReplyDeleteHogan/Vader did good business. If I'm not mistaken, at the time it was WCW's biggest-drawing feud since Flair/Funk in 1989.
ReplyDeleteCare to share the "science" and where I can find this research?
ReplyDeleteI was pretty much done by then.
ReplyDeleteDown vote.
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ReplyDeleteNope, major bomb as champion and drew one of the smallest buyrates for Wrestlemania in history."
Ah, a rare case where Scott has failed to read something recently posted on the Observer site and repurposed it as his own thoughts. The classic 1998 Observer that was just put up last week had a big section dissecting drawing power and shockingly Sid actually did pretty well.
Why was Sid given the belt in 97?
ReplyDeleteImo the bigger ppv buy rates were from 2 or more big matches summerslam 98 had two big matches with austin vs taker and rock vs hhh in a ladder match and that did a 700,000 buy
ReplyDeleteNew York always seemed to like sid. And I'm sure they didn't care for shawn though
ReplyDeleteSid never really got a push but still was over. I heard vince soured on him when he wanted him to be in hogan spot but sid refused saying he was better as a viscous heel.so vince gave up for a while
ReplyDeleteNo mention of Linda as the barking woman?!
ReplyDeleteHis face run in 96 was awful outside of matches you got a smart ass rebel face now running around with his 60 year old mentor.
ReplyDeleteOmg I say that all the time and no one knows what I'm talking about.that same raw austin chop blocked sid and sid oversold and kept screaming Dammit dammit
ReplyDeleteNo real push just given main events and titles with no reason other then he's sid
ReplyDeleteExactly he was a place holder for the title til shawn took it back and after that he got hurt in a car accident
ReplyDeleteCause Shawn lost his smile. Bret/Austin didn't need the belt.
ReplyDeleteThey should have written her on-screen character so that after that humiliation, she was so ashamed of her place in the world that she vowed to be rich herself, and wound up with Vince McMahon. Then do a storyline where she goes insane after Vince dumps her, but she is consoled by RVD, who talks about how the spectre of Ted Dibiase still haunts him to this day. They cry in each other's arms as we go to commercial.
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so in other words you don't have anything. Thanks for confirming that.
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ReplyDeleteHey! We do those shows monthly, so that was July's... should run this week or next.
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Just to make things a bit more complicated, on July 3, 1986, Velvet McIntrye defeated the Fabulous Moolah for the Ladies title in Brisbane, Australia in a title change the WWF didn't even acknowledge at the time.
ReplyDeleteI've watched her awful rendition of America the Beautiful a bunch of times for humor value. The dramatic pause she inserts into "and crown thy good, with..........brotherhood" makes me laugh every time.
ReplyDeletePeugeots are shit anyway, if you're going to lie at least make it something someone would want!
ReplyDeleteAs a fan who used to go to shows when they came to the UK it was never to see anyone in particular, but the show as a whole. The only time I was disappointed when someone wasn't on the card was in 93 when the tour was split across Europe and giant Gonzales wasn't on our show (I really did want to see how big he was in person). So in a way that technically makes him a 'draw'??
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ReplyDeleteYeah, Hogan & Vader did solid buys.
ReplyDeleteSting/Flair always drew very well too, Great American Bash '90 was their record high PPV until Hogan came in.
I'd still say that was based on Austin/Taker alone primarily. HHH didn't even become a draw until 2000.
ReplyDeleteThere are still ways to indicate who's a draw and who isn't, it's just not as simplistic as it used to be.
ReplyDeleteHe wasn't a draw until 2000 but that was a very big match at the time that was the first ladder match in 3 years plus there fued was hot at the time
ReplyDeleteFoley was absolutely a draw! Yes, I get the Schiavone joke, I'm just shocked someone asked... but few have had their legacy/meaning so forgotten than Foley, to be fair. He seems to mean almost nothing today... but then, his heyday was over 15 years ago (!!!).
ReplyDeleteOne wonders if Sid would've turned into a legit draw if the WWF had stuck with the initial program and made him into the next Hulk Hogan.
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