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MOCKTober Countdown: WCW Halloween Havoc 95

- The Netcop Retro Rant for Halloween Havoc 1995.

(This is definitely a show where I initially hated it, and then grew to love it in time.)

- Live from Detroit, Michigan.

- Your hosts are Tony and Bobby.

- We are informed that Ric Flair has been attacked by Arn Anderson & Brian Pillman outside the arena, which may put the tag match with Flair & Sting against Anderson & Pillman in jeopardy.

- Opening match, TV title: Diamond Dallas Page v. Johnny B. Badd.

Remember when DDP was doing the opening match? (Well once he got to WWE, that would start happening again.)  "Badd" comes out of the dressing room, but the real one jumps DDP from behind to start the match. Bit of a brawl outside the ring, as Badd takes out Max Muscle and then puts a bucket on Page's head. Whatever. Back in the ring and Badd with an armbar. Did Kim get a nosejob between then and now?  (She certainly had everything else worked on.)  Long wristlock-and-reversal sequence to waste time. Badd with a hiptoss into a cover for two. Badd with one of the TEN PUNCHES OF DOOM!, but Page dumps him face-first on the turnbuckle. Kimberly refuses to give him a "10". See, Kimberly's function used to be hanging around Page's matches and holding up a big "10" sign whenever DDP did a good move. Yes, they actually pay people to think this stuff up. Page with some kicks and punches for a couple of two counts. Cross-corner whip, reversal and belly to back by DDP. Kim relents and gives him a 10, albeit reluctantly. Pancake piledriver for two. See, the angle was that DDP won 7 million dollars playing bingo, but it was actually Kim's card, so she's pissed off that he's getting all the money.  (And why exactly have we not had a lottery winner gimmick since then?  What a WONDERFUL idea for turning someone heel!  The plucky babyface goes on a big losing streak, wins millions in the lottery and tells off his boss in Austin-like fashion, but then becomes a big jerk like the Million Dollar Man.  Classic soap opera!) It led to a big feud with DDP and Badd that led to Badd leaving for the WWF. DDP with the lucha-esque "El Chinlocko Reverso". Badd with a backslide for two. Page with a clothesline. Page was horrible at this point, btw. Sunset flip try but Page sits on the shoulders for two and then Badd finishes the move for two. Page bodyslam for two. Another Greco-Roman chinlock. Badd escapes, but Maxx Muscle helps Page take him down again. I don't know what became of Maxx, but he was just a big roid freak so I don't really care.  (Wikipedia says that he retired in 2002.)  Back to the chinlock. Crowd is comatose. Badd with a belly to back to escape. Badd makes the superman comeback with a pair of atomic drops and a series of lefts. Flying headscissors and Badd off the top with a double axehandle, which Kimberly gives a 10, but the referee only gives two. Ligerbomb for two. Hiptoss reversed into a DDT by DDP. Only gets two. Diamond Cutter, but Badd holds the ropes and gets two. To the corner for the 10 PUNCHES OF DOOM! and DDP bails out over the top. Badd chases with a somersault plancha and tosses DDP back in, then slingshot splashes him for two. Maxx grabs him from the outside, miscommunication from the heels and Badd rolls him up for two. Badd gets dumped out and Maxx misses a charge at him. Another miscommunication spot and it's enough for a new champion as Badd gets the pin. Bad match with a good ending to save it. **

- Zodiac (w/ Rey Mysterio's music) v. Randy Savage.

Zodiac is of course Brutus "the Booty Disciple Clipmaster without a Face" Beefcake. Savage and Zodiac fight outside the ring as an idiot fan runs into the ring. Security and the ref kick the crap out of the little puke to a big pop from the fans. They get back in and Savage finishes it about 10 seconds later with the big elbow. DUD  (Fun fact:  Zodiac was originally going to be the gimmick given to Tom Zenk in 1991, and then they held onto it for FOUR YEARS before finding someone dumb enough to take it.) 

- Hotline shill as Gene notes Jimmy Hart was talking to someone he used to represent in another federation. Quick soundbites from Johnny B.

- Revenge match: Road Warrior Hawk v. Kurasawa.

No, it's not the Japanese filmmaker, although if I made that joke only mdb and 5 or 6 others would probably get it anyway. Kurasawa is just some Japanese guy who liked to work on the arm. (DUDE!  That’s Manabu Nakanishi!  He’s friggin’ awesome!)  He wasn't over, in case you couldn't guess. Hawk batters him to start with the shoulderblock and neckbreaker. Fistdrop for two. Another two. Chops. Cross-corner charge misses but Hawk doesn't sell. Gut wrench suplex by Hawk. Powerbomb, but Parker hooks the leg, allowing Kurasawa to slam Hawk, but miss an elbow off the top. Hawk clotheslines him over the top, then comes off the apron and clotheslines Parker. Hawk hits the ringpost, allowing Kurasawa to hit a pair of suplexes back in the ring and pin Hawk. Que? Parker was holding the ropes, but that came out of nowhere. Still, surprisingly decent match out of Hawk. **1/2  (Like I said, Nakanishi was awesome.) 

- Jerry Lynn v. Sabu.

(Did I read that right?) 

Yes, you read that right.

(Whew.) 

Sabu worked for WCW for a couple of months in 1995, including this show. Sabu with an Asai moonsault right away. Lynn responds with a cross-body off the top to the floor. Back in and Lynn with a moonsault press for two. Ligerbomb for two. Charge misses and Sabu with a slingshot legdrop for two. Lynn with a belly to back for two. Lynn to the top and Sabu knocks him down and gives him a victory roll off the top for two. Sabu on the second rope and Lynn dropkicks him out of the ring. This is a total spotfest. Sabu finishes it with a slingshot moonsault out of nowhere for the pin. The Sheik tosses a fireball in Lynn's face for fun. A bad match by today's standards, but this was totally unlike anything ever seen in WCW at the time. **

- We go to the Taskmaster's lair, as King Curtis yells a lot and Sullivan looks menacing. I should point out that Eric Bischoff was running WCW at the time. Not that I'm saying it was his idea, but he could very well have said "No, this is stupid, I don't want to air this on my PPV" but he chose not to.  (Note the similarities to another angle currently stinking up TNA.) 

- Mean Gene has some folks who won some motorcycle contest. Hogan (dressed like Hollywood Hogan without the painted beard) and Jimmy Hart present a bike.

- Meng v. Lex Luger.

Meng actually sells some stuff here. If Luger can win, he'll wrestle Savage later because they some sort of issue. The Dungeon of Doom feud was so horribly confusing that I can't even remember what the Luger-Savage thing was about. (Well we know what the issue became about years later…)  Luger with his usual stuff and they end up outside the ring, where Luger rams Meng's arm into the ringpost. Wow, psychology and stuff. Meng kicks away. But Luger makes the comeback...then misses a charge to the corner. Luger tries a belly to back but Meng falls on him for two. Shoulderbreaker allows Meng the chance to stall. More kicks. Piledriver for two. Choking. Belly to back for two. I'm bored. Luger is (slowly) tossed out of the ring and Sullivan has words with him. The announcers speculate that Luger might be in cahoots, thus marking the last time any member of the WCW announce team made an intelligent comment. Back in and more kicks from Meng. They've given this fucking match like 15 minutes so far. Meng misses a dropkick and Luger dumps him out of the ring. Luger suplexes him back in off the apron. Three clotheslines to put Meng down and a backdrop. Another clothesline, and another. Why does he use the one move he can never hit so extensively? But wait, Meng has an international object in his boot and he nails Luger with it...but Sullivan comes in to break up the count, giving Luger the win by DQ. Uh, guys, if Sullivan broke up that pin then LUGER should have been DQ'd. Well, whatever. 1/2*

- Arn Anderson & Brian Pillman v. Ric Flair & Sting.

Everyone knew what was going to happen here, but it was still great to watch. Anderson and Flair had been bickering leading up to this, and they finally fought at Fall Brawl, with Pillman interfering, allowing Anderson to get the pin. So Flair begged Sting for help, bringing out a dozen kids painted with Stinger paint to plead for Sting's help in a tag match. So Sting agreed. But Flair got "attacked" earlier in the evening and Sting comes out alone here. Sting and Arn start as the crowd chants "We Want Flair." They do a full-nelson reversal spot and Arn bails. More chants from the crowd. Sting cleans house on both heels and they bail again. Pillman entices Sting to chase him outside but the attempted double-team fails as Sting takes out both guys. Arn & Brian are getting nowhere here. Sting press-slams Pillman, who tags out to Arn. Arn with some forearms and a piledriver try, but Sting reverses to a catapult that knocks Pillman off the apron to the railing. Boxing match between Sting and Arn, which Arn loses. Arn rams Sting's head into Pillman's to turn the tide. Whip and forearm shot to the gut. Stomp to the midsection...and Flair charges into the ring in street clothes as the crowd goes berserk! Pillman hammers Sting into the railing as Flair takes his place on the apron. Flair has a huge bandage on his head. Pillman hammers on Sting in the corner and Sting fights out, but gets caught in the wrong corner and double-teamed. Flair has the crowd in the palm of his hand. He takes off his shoe and swats at Arn with it to break up a chinlock. Sting lifts the knees on a Pillman splash, and Sting fights over to his corner to make the hot tag...but Arn catches him in time with a belly to back for two. Pillman antagonizes Flair enough to draw him away from the corner while Arn hammers Sting some more. Abdominal stretch on Sting, with the requisite cheating. Pillman mouths off at Flair and rubs Sting's face into the mat. Half-crab with the requisite cheating. Field-goal kick to the ribs by Pillman for two. Double-teaming in the corner, but Sting fights outs against Arn, only to get caught with the spinebuster for two. Pillman with the elbow to the knee. Double-team leg split and Arn works on Sting's knee some more. Flair is yelling inspirational words to Sting from the apron. God, this is so classic. Flair is the man. Sting escapes an Arn bearhug put Pillman takes him down again right away. Chops in the corner (whoo). Kind of a half-nelson by Pillman. But Sting fights out of the corner again, and rams the heels' heads together to take them out. He sucks up every ounce of energy...and tags Flair! The crowd goes nuts! FLAIR TURNS ON STING! The Horsemen ride again and the crowd is absolutely shell-shocked. A beatdown results to bring the angle to it's payoff. See, this is how it should have happened this time around: Flair and Anderson allow themselves to be demoralized by Bischoff to the point where they relent and join the nWo, then one day flip out and destroy some poor nWo sap. Psychological warfare at it's finest. ***  (I’m even more deeply into this angle today than I was back then.  Yeah, at the time it seemed like yet another Sting the Giant Idiot feud, but it had layers.  Sting and everyone else was well aware that Flair was going to turn on them, and everyone SAID SO, but Sting and Flair were drawn together like co-dependent addicts sharing one last binge with each other, because Flair was compelled by his own nature, and I think deep down Sting wanted Flair to call his bluff so he could beat the shit out of him and have justification.  It’s just who they are.  Now THAT’S telling stories.) 

- Long video review package of the Giant-Hogan feud.

- Monster Truck Match: Hulk Hogan v. The Giant.

I won't even get into this one. Needless to say, it's really fucking stupid. Hogan manages to push Giant's truck out of the circle, and then they fight. But see, Giant was standing too close to the edge of the roof of Cobo Hall, and Hogan accidentally pushes him off. No, seriously. This is, of course, available on my Netcop Busts compilation as a shining example of one of the worst things I've ever seen.  (Giant FELL OFF THE ROOF OF THE ARENA.  And survived!  And they never even tried to explain it!  THUMBS UP!) 

- Lex Luger v. Randy Savage.

Whereas he was a face in the Meng match, now Luger is heelish here. Crowd is firmly behind Savage. Jimmy Hart makes his way to ringside a few seconds in. Luger pounds Savage in the corner. More rights. Some kicks. Necksnap on the top rope. Heenan flips out on the never-seen page Woodrow a few times because he's so upset about the Giant falling off the roof. Luger with an axehandle on Savage as he's draped over the railing. Savage rams Luger to the railing and STEEL stairs to fight back. Back in and Savage clotheslines him from behind and goes to the top, but catches a fist in the gut on the way down. Savage whips Luger to the corner, but eats knee and Luger cradles...but the ref is distracted by Jimmy. Hart and Luger end up colliding and Savage hits the big elbow for three. Bad match. 1/2*

- WCW World title match: Hulk Hogan v. The Giant.

Hogan enters first and everyone acts all shocked and stuff when the Giant makes his way out. Because he FELL OFF THE ROOF OF COBO HALL. And people say Val Venis is overstated. You know what the sad part is? These guys would go on to main event THREE MORE PAY PER VIEWS! Hogan with rights but the have no effect. Btw, if you think Giant is bad now... Bodyslam attempt but Giant screams like a sideshow freak and breaks out. Cross-corner whip and big boot. More forearms. Chops in the corner (whoo). Giant yells a lot. Maybe he should try All-Bran. Maybe he's passing kidney stones. Boots in the corner. Cross-corner whip and another boot. Knucklelock brings Hogan to his knees. And he stays there for a while. Elbow and slam by the Giant. Legdrop misses and Hogan is revived. Head to the turnbuckle a couple of times and then the TEN PUNCHES OF DOOM! Biting from Hogan. FINGERNAIL SCRAPE OF DEATH! Cross-corner whip and clothesline, then more punches. Whip and clothesline. Another. Another and Giant goes over the top to the floor. Giant and Sullivan take a walk and Hogan brings them back. Poke to the eyes. More punches. Shoulderblock but Giant won't go down. Again and Giant goes for the chokeslam but Hogan escapes. More punches and biting. Giant wiht a whip and a backbreaker. Giant stomps on his hands. Whip and a Giant bearhug. Hogan powers out but gets atomic dropped. Another bearhug. Hogan powers out again. Punches from Hogan, but Giant catches him with a chokeslam. Two count and the hulking up begins. He's a house of fire, you know. Punches, big boot and bodyslam. Legdrop, but Jimmy Hart trips up the referee off-camera. Hogan helps him up and Hart officially turns on Hogan, pasting him with the title belt. Crowd is shocked. Luger and Savage run in to make the save, but Luger then further complicates the issue by turning on Savage! Then the Yeti (Ron Reese) comes in and does the double-team bearhug on Hogan, while, uh, gyrating his hips. The less said the better. The carnage continues. It is announced that Giant wins by DQ, since Hart was Hogan's manager. The next night on Nitro, it was further announced that Hart had double-crossed Hogan before the match and wrote a waiver of the DQ rule into the contract, giving Giant the WCW World title. This was actually a better match than the ones that followed over the years. *1/2  (This was basically Vince Russo before Vince Russo, so I have to give it a pass just for sheer prescience.) 

The Bottom Line:

Well, the wrestling wasn't great (or even good), but the storylines were actually coherent (if really stupid) and the shock booking approach set a change of pace for WCW that would redefine the company and propel them to the top.

A recommended show, historically speaking. (It’s a ton of fun!) 

Comments

  1. DIdn't Bobby Heenan suggest the Giant should have a fish in his singlet when he came back out to suggest he had fallen in the river or something like that?


    Because that would have rocked.

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  2. If the Aces and Eights angle really is becoming the Dungeon of Doom, I sure hope they find a way to work the Yeti at some point. I really want to see a mummy biker give Austin Aries an erotic bearhug and the disappear forever.

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  3. Yeah, it's too bad. They're almost becoming Nexus-level disappointing.

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  4. 95 WCW is my guilty pleasure. I actually kinda liked the Dungeon of Doom stuff...

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  5. This is such a weirdly fun show. Looking back, I think one of the reasons I enjoy it so much is that it was the last PPV I watched before I discovered the RSPW on the internet and became smartened up to the business and all that. By the next months PPVs (IYH and WWIII) I was already reading The Observer.

    A few of my impressions from over the years:

    - The Dungeon of Doom thing was... theatrical to say the least, and I saw very little of it, but I always thought a big stable of monsters like this would work, if it wasn't used as Hulk Hogan fodder.

    - There is so much on this show that has a cool retro feel to it versus the typical lame attempt to recreate something -- the Flair/Sting stuff feels fresh but seems like it could be happening in 1989. The Giant/Hogan thing as a continuation of the Andre/Hogan feud is interesting, down to the significance of the location, which they actually push on commentary. The crowd pops HUGE for the bodyslam, in kind of a cool moment.

    - It's like the bizarro world of wrestling sample platter. You've got a classic style NWA angle (Horsemen attack), some 80s WWF (Hogan/Giant), some ECW (Sabu), some Russo-esque booking, and the foreshadowing of Hulk Hogan's heel turn look, only nine months later.

    - Marc Mero should have probably stayed in WCW. He was a really solid babyface by this point and while I don't think he'd ever have got a run with the world title, I bet he could have been a solid US champ level guy during the NWO years.

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  6. I like how Scott characterized the Sting/Flair stuff. It makes me think of the old "Scorpion and the Frog" fable. "It's just my nature".

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  7. No...the monster truck craze of the 80's was well cooled off by then.

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  8. Didn't Punk use a version of that parable when he won the ROH title and kicked off the first Summer of Punk?

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  9. Considering what else WCW was doing around that time (Hogan & Friends, Mr. T on PPVs), that's pretty darned fitting.

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  10. This show hasn't aged well at all imo.

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  11. WCW of course had no idea of this at the time. They went on to have a Goldberg truck and a nWo monster truck among others. I always figured that it was just something I didn't "get" living in California and that maybe monster trucking was still big in the south.

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  12. I absolutely love the way Flair gets into the ring after he's tagged, 100% animated and ready to go, and then just walks over and attacks Sting. It's awesome.

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  13. Yeah, I didn't have any idea either. I have "heard" of people being into monster trucks, but I didn't realize they were ever more than a niche thing in the 80s even.

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  14. It's so ironic that the only time Sting used his brain and wasn't a gullible chump was the Russo-booked angle with Elizabeth in '99.

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  15. God, was 1995 such an awful time to be a wrestling fan

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  16. Yeah, just punches him right in the face too lol What a bastard.

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  17. There was at least one glorious crossover between the worlds of Monster Trucks & Wrestling, as Sgt. Slaughter led a gang of troops in a tug of war against bigfoot to claim venegance for humanity for losing their jobs to machines & computers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjK4AtpC-Rw

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  18. "Hogan enters first and everyone acts all shocked and stuff when the Giant makes his way out. Because he FELL OFF THE ROOF OF COBO HALL"


    LOLOLOLOLOL

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  19. What exactly is the Zodiac "gimmick"? I remember Leslie with his face painted and saying "yes" and "no" a lot. So... what was the point?

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  20. 1995 was the year I discovered the Internet, rsp-w and how everything in wrestling worked. So I always look upon it fondly.

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  21. I don't really care one way or the other about mid-90s WCW, but I am checking every day to see the next October pun. Which show will have enough restholds that it will get the CHINLOCKtober name? Has Scott played a Zelda game recently enough to go with OCTOROKtober? These are the questions that keep me up at night!

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  22. Good question. Was it supposed to somehow be related to the Zodiac killer?

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  23. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 7, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    You know what...forget Austin vs Rock how about we get a DVD of Sting vs Flair?

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  24. Jamie Noble "won the lottery" sometime in the mid '00s during his run on Smackdown. It led nowhere.

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  25. 1995 was the year I started watching wrestling, so I look upon it fondly too.

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  26. Not sure if it was mentioned, but Sting was actually "injured" before a tag match where he was supposed to help Flair while Flair fought off the Horsemen (I think). This happened on a Nitro before Havoc. So, there was a certain amount of symmetry with Flair being injured and coming out. This helped the "shock" factor when Flair did turn.

    As a Pillman mark, I loved watching every minute of this angle. Other than Canadian Stampede, he looked happiest here. I also liked the blow-off match with Sting at World War III, with Flair being thwarted time after time before running to a different ring, starting the entire process over.

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  27. Imagine an alternate WCW where Sabu gets built up to feud with Hulk Hogan

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  28. I had the same thought, but I think rather than lottery winnings, he actually gained an inheritance from a recently deceased relative. I believe possession of a trailer was involved.

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  29. That's not true, he started wearing Tommy Hilfiger jean shorts.

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  30. I'm going to have to start using that Giant thing. "X is as scared of Y as the Big Show is of the roof of Cobo Hall"

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  31. Schiavone says that with enough conviction that for one second I become excited...and then I laugh, but, as a Schiavone mark, I think he did the best with that material that anyone could.

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  32. MY FAVORITE STING/FLAIR MATCH. EVER.

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  33. 95 IS THE YEAR I GOT BACK INTO IT.

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  34. I'm surprised Russo never actually did a full-blown serial killer angle, where random jobbers were found murdered backstage.

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  35. Yup same here, the year I got back into it.

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  36. Why is it that the WWE possesses these 'sitcom/soap opera' writers on their Creative staff, but they only pump out useless characters that have no hope of ever getting over? More than that, how can the 2012 WWE product look weak compared to 1995 WCW, despite having some of the best young talent to come along in the last ten years?

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  37. My thinking on this was going back and looking at some of the major face characters since I started watching wrestling (1990ish onwards), and I realized that face characters today are just so meh. I can forgive the cowardly heel thing that's been run into the ground in part because there's just no one that truly stands out as a face character beyond John Cena, who is stale. Sheamus is the absolute worst top level face that I can remember in a good while, because he's nothing but a dick to his opponents. And not the cocky-but-fun dick that epitomized the Attitude Era; I'm talking Billy Zabka-level douchebaggery that makes it hard to sympathize with the character when the heel is trying to get heat on him. It undermines the core dynamic of the wrestling match, and leaves everything falling flat.

    Compare Sheamus to someone like Sting from the early-1990s, who was much more of a 'wrestling' character than today's 'superstars'. On the surface, he had the look of a beach bum crossed with a superhero, and you would *think* that his character would be pretty one-dimensional. The layers to that character though were immense when you watched him interact with Flair, Vicious, Luger and Vader. What should have been a paper-thin character became the basis for one of the most enduring (and criminally underused) stars of the past twenty years.

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  38. But he had a three way with Torrie Wilson and Billy Gunn!

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  39. to me the best thing about the Sting/Flair angle is that Sting really isn't that much of an idiot and has his doubts before. he warned Flair several times in the buildup to this show and afaik initially even refused to tag with him. and Flair did all the convincing in the world to get him to do it - and I believe (if you look at the crowd reaction) convinced a huge part the audience as well ..... just to turn on him like Sting has suspected from the start. awesome!

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  40. The Yeti's signature move is just a standing version of Vis-Agra. Big Vis stole it, modified it and got it mildly over. Poor Yeti.

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  41. Yeah 1995 was the year that I first started watching.

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