The picture to the left is from one of the strangest, most entertaining, oddly produced, actually not-that-bad-but-still-so-bad-its-good movies I've ever seen.
What's the weirdest movie theater experience you've ever had? Dead crowd? Hyped Crowd? Drunk folks? What are your fondest and least fondest movie theater memories?
For me it was the time I saw a movie with Oprah and about 300 incredible human beings.
That movie? Tyler Perry's For Colored Girls.
It's wild for a few reasons. For starters, the movie is exceedingly dark - there's murder, rape, child murder, PTSD, drug addiction, back alley abortions, Janet Jackson getting HIV, and Macy Gray. For seconds, characters will randomly go on long, poetic monologues that are absolutely chilling - not sure if there's a lot of cross over in the WWE and Loretta Devine fan-bases, but she can cut a promo, brother.
The theatre
was one of these 'lux level' setups, a balcony, a GIANT screen, and
probably double the amount of seats you'd be used too for a movie
theater. It was a pre-release screening, and the theater was packed full
of, well, black people, including Opera, Tyler Perry himself, and
Thandie Newton, star of "Crash" and super charming British lady.
And at the risk of propagating the stereotype that black people have far more fun in movie theaters than white people do, HOO BOY was that crowd rowdy. People were cat-calling at the screen, making sly comments about various characters, and the crowd WAS EATING IT UP, myself included.
At one very dramatic point in the movie a character reveals they have HIV. His lover says something like "What do I do now?!" and without missing a damn beat, a guy in the audience perked up "Run!" and the place EXPLODED.
But here's the REALLY weird part. This wasn't mean spirited heckling, and it didn't take away from the movie at all. The heart-crushing scenes were still heart-crushing, and the boring ones had folks chirping in from the audience to make them fun and entertaining.
Every now and then I did a look over to where Oprah was, and because she was in front and to the right of me I couldn't quiteeee tell if she was eating all this up, too, but man, never in my life has such a dour movie left me so uplifted about community and interaction - until the two women I saw the movie with began to list off all the problems they had with the movie's supposed sexist subtext.
The thing I took from this whole incredible experience is that Tyler Perry Movies seem to endear themselves to this kind of interaction. Speaking with a couple of African American friends in college I related the experience and said that was about par for the course. People get rowdy - and it makes the movies better. Madea brandishing a gun? Kinda silly. Madea brandishing a gun and the crowd hooting and hollering along with the action? Fuckin' brilliant.
Hopefully this didn't come off as racist or offensive, but I do think that culture played a big role in why that movie clicked for both the audience (who stood and clapped and loved it at the end), and me - who had heard of the 'stereotype' of black folks in movie theaters, and found myself loving it not BECAUSE it was a stereotype, but because it was so damn fun I completely forgot it was one.
In fact, I now take this experience with me whenever I see a movie and the crowd isn't really into it. If I'm digging jokes I'll sometime give a little extra juice to my laugh, or give off a bemused "Pfffpt" of enjoyment toward a corny one-liner or plot point, but in a way that I think endears the other people in the theatre. Some movies are bad, some movies are good, and some bad movies are made better with the right mindset and a loosey goosey audience.
Heck, check out "Last Vegas" sometime and tell me THAT movie wouldn't be made about 100000x more enjoyable with a crowd of rowdy movie-goers hell bent on having a great time at a movie, whether they need to help that movie along or not.
Apparently you've never been to a theater when a "black" movie came out? More fights, stabbings and shootings than I'd like to mention
ReplyDeleteFunniest one was the first movie I'd ever gone to "Empire Strikes Back" After the movie we were walking out and a biker who was a little upset with Lando said, "I can't believe that n****r sold out Han Solo. This started a riot.
Side note: Why was there only one black dude in space?
Nah they popped up all over the place in Empire, just Lando was the only main character. And then he started wearing Han's clothes in Jedi. Weird. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMCki0Z_AlA
ReplyDeleteWhen you have to tell us several times in a post that you're not trying to be a racist, maybe you should just stop and reconsider that post.
ReplyDeleteWell I was trying to get that this idea that 1) Here's a stereotype I've heard about...in action, and is kind of awesome actually and I wish it wasn't considered a stereotype at all, and 2) We live in a very sensitive world, so I figure if anything I DO say is a little insensitive, it comes off as just that, insensitivity versus being a racist asshole.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to go out on a limb and say none of this actually happened.
ReplyDeleteclick the link in the first half of the post to see a bad review, interview with Thandie Newton, and some really bad college-level analysis.
ReplyDeleteWeird movie theater experience...thinking you are on a date with a girl and her B/F shows up..she holds hands with him and talks to you the whole time...Yes I eventually dated her...NO OF COURSE IT DIDN'T GO WELL!
ReplyDeleteAn entire row of teens engaging in fellatio in my ghetto theater. Although, that's not exactly strange.
ReplyDeleteMy least favorite was this old couple at Slumdog Millionaire, loudly talking about how much they hate *insert racist term for any Asians*. People told them to shut up throughout and they didn't care.
We went to see Paranormal Activity when it first came out in a theatre near the city. It's cliche, but the black folk in the back were freaking the fuck out the entire time. I went with my girlfriend but the other blonde girl next to me kept asking questions, "Like... this is real, right?"
ReplyDeleteThe climax of the movie comes and a dozen or so people RUN for the exit. One woman just starts yelling, "Ah HELL no! I'm gettin the fuck outta here!"
This is true. He didn't say anything that was out of line.
ReplyDeleteIt just makes what you're saying sound even more racist than it actually is. I'm actually more offended by people who always think I'm going to be offended by something race related.
ReplyDeleteWhoa, I remember when that movie came out. I was running the theater at the time, and had to throw out an entire row of people because one lady's phone went off and somehow this turned into a huge fight. The cops had to be called, and the entire row was escorted out, and half the people looked at me demanding refunds. I was already having a bad day (I REALLY hated this job at this point), so when the one guy looks over at me and says "So what about our refunds?" I looked at him, and without missing a beat, I said, "You know, I'd normally give refunds for something like this, but since you all decided to act like a bunch of animals, fuck you, get out of my theater." The cops escorted them out giving me the look that said"Are you fucking nuts?"
ReplyDeleteI'm lucky I didn't get shot that night.
Meekin, if you're going to drop all these names... please pick them up before you leave.
ReplyDeleteYou might as well say, "Brace yourself. I'm going to offend you!"
ReplyDeleteOh, and watching anything with Michael Ealy makes me always flash back to that scene from For Colored Girls. Fucking crazy.
ReplyDeleteThat makes you a minority of a minority then, I posted similar sentiments about this experience elsewhere and was ripped apart.
ReplyDeleteBTW -Other than "A Family that Preys Together" I HAT Tyler Perry movies. Here is the plot of every Tyler Perry movie ever made:
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/ZRfDgnapUAw
My favourite movie going experience had to be I Know What You Did Last Summer. Now, stay with me on this one.
ReplyDeleteA friend of mine and I were dragged to see it by our respective girlfriends one night. It was horrendous, terrible movie that we were just laughing through it almost the entire time. But one thing made it best.
See, around about the same time, Crow Sting was appearing in the rafters all mysterious in WCW. And the announcers would shout, "IT'S STING! IT'S STING!" And I swear, every time - EVERY time - the murderer in the rain slicker appeared in that movie, he was high above someone. So every time, me and my friend looked at each other and started shouting, "IT'S STING! IT'S STING!"
I think people might just like to rip you apart, Paul.
ReplyDeleteTyler Perry is the worst. The WORST. The Boondocks got it right.
ReplyDeleteIs the Family that Preys the one with Kathy Bates? That's a good one! There's a scenere where I think a guy hauls off and smacks a girl and she goes FLYING over the counter in the quintessential over-the-top tyler perry kind of way.
ReplyDeleteGot a link?
ReplyDeleteAll those films are absolute shit. If they were made exactly the same way by a different person, they'd be straight to fucking lazerdisc.
ReplyDeleteMeekin didn't post this
ReplyDeleteThat's the one. That is also a staple of black movies. When a woman berates and emasculates the man, the next thing coming is the smack.
ReplyDeleteSee my post above.
ReplyDelete...yes he did?
ReplyDeleteThe Madea spot at the end is fucking hysterical.
ReplyDeleteFuck. I thought ANTVGM64 was someone different. I need to sleep. Throat infection is getting to me
ReplyDeleteI told you to leave Lita alone.
ReplyDeleteMan, I guess that dark skin / light skin thing is a big deal, every person I've mentioned this movie too, or Tyler Perry to what was African American brings up those very points.
ReplyDeleteI have trouble hating on Tyler Perry movies because for some strange reason, my mom loves his movies. It's adorable. She thinks he knows how to speak to women...and she's a cheap laugh (she's been laughing at my dad's eye-rolling jokes for about 37 years now). So, I have positive associations with it because I'm a mama's boy.
ReplyDelete5,000 fingers of Dr. T
ReplyDeleteWho's Oprah?
ReplyDeleteThe theater crowd for the 2nd Trailer Park Boys movie was like a post-WM Raw crowd that gets exactly what they want. They were hype for everything, they got all the jokes, and they got what they thought was the final send-off of the series before it disappeared into the realm of legend. Like people stayed in their chairs when the credits started and the lights came back on for like 5 minutes because it was hype and they appreciated what they received. (The series came back after some rough negotiating for a 3rd movie and 8th TV season on Netflix and theres not even a trace of a shark fin yet.). There were also people in costume and at least 3 people in the crowd did impressions of the characters in the film during a dead spot.
ReplyDeleteSo of course the movie gets absolutely shredded on Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes because of "juvenile antics".
(For those Americans who don't know what Trailer Park Boys is, its like our Breaking Bad only much more of a comedy. Wiki it up, its mostly accurate.)
Watched the Mask Of Zorro with my other half. Turned out we were the only two in the theater and we didn't really see much of the movie.
ReplyDeleteOh don't leave there, just how far did you get!?
ReplyDelete"I'm dark-skinned and bald, so I hate you and I hate Jesus!"
ReplyDeleteThat's why Perry got so mad about that episode, because no one could watch it and possibly take one of his movies or television shows seriously again.
Trailer Park boys are great. The Big Dirty stuff is hilarious. I love a "smart" crowd for flicks, Avengers was like that for me since I did the whole marathon thing.
ReplyDeleteNo offense, but these QOTD are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel and are getting worse and worse.
ReplyDeleteThat's when the fooling around begins.
ReplyDeleteBlame Farva for this one.
ReplyDeleteFarva went to theater and creeped on Oprah?
ReplyDeleteAbout 20 minutes into the movie
ReplyDeleteFarva suggested the QOTD which led me to regale you all with stories of Oprah and awesome movie experiences.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he found them in the ship after he left Lando for dead in Cloud City.
ReplyDelete...good point. You bastard.
ReplyDeleteWhen I saw The Dark Knight I got the theater a bit late and the place was packed so my friends and I had to split up. I ended up sitting next to a long-haired dude in a hoodie sitting by himself and stealthily drinking a Long Trail. He noticed that I was also a long-haired dude in a hoodie sitting by myself so he offered me a Long Trail too. Turns out he had snuck in a whole 12 pack and we had a great time getting drunk while watching one of the best movies I've ever seen.
ReplyDeleteso paul, how did you manage to score opening night tickets? Can't imagine TP/Oprah/Nelson Mandela/etc would just pick a random Saturday night to attend a movie with the common folk
ReplyDeleteI skipped out of work an hour early to make the midnight showing for that flick and loved every second of it. The crowd was on FIRE for it, too. sadly the Dark Knight Rises theater only had...6 people in it so it was kind of a bummer.
ReplyDeleteI saw You're Next in the theatre last year, and there were about 20-25 people for a 10AM show. I was the only person there between the ages of 12 and 50. Really weird.
ReplyDeleteIf a white filmmaker made those same movies without altering a scene or changing a word of dialogue, people would swear that he was the Grand Dragon of the Klan. Yet Perry gets praise for "reflecting the African-American experience". As an African-American, allow me to rebut: BULLSHIT. Dude is just a self-hating black man who found a way to make millions off his hang-up.
ReplyDeleteThe Dark Knight Rises was a bummer though...
ReplyDeleteWhy is that a bummer? The less people the better. Fewer twats playing on their phone and throwing popcorn
ReplyDeleteTomorrow's QOTD: What was the smelliest dump you took? What letter did it most resemble? Did the smell remind you of a past dump?
ReplyDeleteI, for one, am personally offended that this hasn't degenerated into a race war or a completely off-topic conversation.
ReplyDeleteWell it's like with anything press-related. You get in contact with the PR people, in this case Allied-THA who ran all the press and pre-screening stuff in Chicago, they tell you when the screening is and you go.
ReplyDeleteGenerally speaking because I was in college and running my own 'movie review show' I got into a lot of stuff simply because we had a direct feed to the eyeballs of practically every college student on campus. The show ran on ALL monitors, and since we produced so many damn episodes so frequently we got a lot of cool perks - like interviewing Aaron Sorkin, free movies, and so on.
Give Price of Admission Columbia College a Google.
More importantly getting to these movies EARLY, before they come out, makes sure that you have the first jump on word of mouth. Movies generally screen the Wednesday before release so writers can post their review for the Thursday / Friday when the movie comes out.
When I was working at Ebert it was a little different since pretty much everyone worked around Roger's schedule. We screened the Muppets are Chicago's secret little screening room, got a few screeners of in-theater movies sent our way, it was a good time.
Actually what's a fuckin' mind trip is when I try to secure review copies or games or movies for review, tossing in that "I write for a wrestling blog with over 18 million views life time" gets me in the door for some reason.
That it was.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever seen the poster for Baggage Claim, that recent Paula Patton movie that came out? An entire black cast and Adam Brody are listed on the poster for the film, and Adam Brody is the only actor NOT shown on the poster.
ReplyDeleteI like big crowds.
ReplyDeleteHeh, I'm involved in one of those on facebook over Pharell getting in trouble for saying he didn't think Race is a really big deal. It devolved into the endless "privilege" debate where any and all points offered in support of Pharell were dismissed as elitist or blahblahblahblah
ReplyDeleteGreed was a really good show. Loved Kanyon's entrance on that show. He would have gotten over huge if he had that entrance in the WWF but God forbid outsiders get over in that company so of course that didn't happen.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's interesting to see Paul London playing a fan during the main event, he undoubtedly would had been a huge asset to the Cruiserweight division if only the company didn't close down the very next week.
I'll have more faith when they have a TV deal in place.
ReplyDeleteYou're the one using name calling, not I. I don't think Efren Ramirez appreciates your emotional outburst
ReplyDeleteIs their ANYTHING positive you can say about yourself?
ReplyDeleteNanny nanny poo poo?
ReplyDeleteRocky Balboa is awesome. The ONLY good thing in 5 is Mick.
ReplyDeleteMan, I love all the soundtracks. Burt Condi made some epic music and Rocky III has the awesome "Mickey" that will turn you into a sobbing wreck.
ReplyDeleteCena?
ReplyDeleteif they put up one episode of Raw per week, it would take 40 years to put them all up.
ReplyDeleteeven if they put up one Raw from 1998 per week, it would take a full year to do that.
I have no idea what your point is. The segment of their subscribers who are paying $10 a month JUST to watch Raws for 1998 is 0.01%
I don't remember The Machines even having music.
ReplyDeleteOne episode of Raw per week would take 21 years, because it's been airing once a week for 21 years.
ReplyDeleteTell me about it.
ReplyDeleteI think they misjudged the allure of every PPV ever available on-demand. Because most people, especially those that would be attracted to the Network, will have already seen many of these PPVs.
Like I did the free trial and it was fun watching some PPVs I missed during that week, but why would I keep paying $10?
The reason I did pay for WWE 24/7 for years was due to the old television shows they showed in order, it was like watching all that stuff fresh again and it was incredible. 80s NWA, 80s WCCW, 90s ECW, the Monday Night Wars, 80s PrimeTime...I had like six different shows I was keeping up on, including Mid-Atlantic from the early 80s.
THAT is what they should be doing with the Network. I have no idea why they're not.
EXACTLY! If you post as much as possible on the Network then you have something for everyone. I may not want to watch Heat, but you might. You don't run the risk of losing anybody if you have something for everyone. Most people don't give second chances when it comes to money.
ReplyDeleteYea of course. I meant to type 20 but still, its a long time.
ReplyDeleteyup dvd recorder hooked up to XBox360 works just fine
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In Meekin's defense, he has probably never been invited to a party and doesn't know the rules.
ReplyDeleteI don't know, I thought Mason Dixon was the least intimidating of all of Rocky's opponents, he was just really bland. Plus, I didn't really like how they made the fight more realistic sounding, rather than the huge whams and booms that all the other fights had. I did like his training scenes in 6 though, and the actress that played his girlfriend was really good. Plus, the actor that played his son was much better than Sage Stallone in 5.
ReplyDeleteWe're through the looking glass here people.
ReplyDeleteNo blushing, just dancing.
ReplyDeleteI think is just that narcissistic and thoughtless... but there is def. a power component. She isn't a keeper at all... but she is ok for where I am right now (legally I am still married so a relationship can only go so far) and who knows once she graduates next month maybe her behavior will correct itself... though I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, that would convince me to sign up.
ReplyDeleteI'm almost certain there was at least one appearance of Piper Machine too.
ReplyDeleteMy question is who's going to buy the new Best of WCW PPV Matches and I think think they're doing a Best of the GAB. Why buy matches that you can see on the network?
ReplyDeleteIt's a joke.
ReplyDeleteWas it Dusty's Starrcade 84 song that replaced Purple Rain? First it was weird enough Big Dust came out to Purple Rain but weirder was the porn jam they replaced it with.
ReplyDelete....to rip off Bill Simmons, Ventura's possibly entered the Tyson Zone, where anything said about him could possibly be true. Dude needs to lay off the wack-a-doo stuff if people have to do a double take on that quote as something he may have actually said
ReplyDeleteI will join you on the Rocky 5 is underappreciated platform. The story is interesting and the part where Rocky says "I didn't hear no bell" and ghost Mickey saying "get up ya bum cause Mickey loves ya" are great. Also love Rocky Jr. shouting "he took my room!" During the fight. Cracks me up.
ReplyDeleteI am THAT guy:
ReplyDeleteIt's "I could...set the building on fire"
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh ::Pressure on brain released::
TJ: Apparently Jeff Teague from the Hawks is a smark, lol.
ReplyDeletePlease explain. ..
ReplyDeleteI like it, for that reason. I can talk hoops if the mood strikes me
ReplyDelete"Mickey loves ya"
ReplyDeleteIf the Hogan mess at WM9 didn't overshadow everything (OR Hogan jobs to Bret somewhere along the way), I think that arc works just fine.
ReplyDeleteNo fair, that's my point. It's been eight weeks and nothing of note has been added, if this is their timeline for releasing content in the future I'll happily just go back to watching every bit of their content online for free.
ReplyDeleteNo, she said fans would be getting the library and that new stuff would be posted, and I quote directly from the press conference: "All the time!"
ReplyDeleteIt's been eight weeks and nothing new of note has been added, but hey there's a new show about the best of the Hall of Fame and that totally counts!
Forgive me for wanting to see wrestling on my paid subscriber wrestling "network."
It's much, much, much higher than that. Most everyone I know that signed up for this thing signed up to relive what they consider to be a good period in the business.
ReplyDeleteI don't pay for clip shows or countdowns, I pay to get access to the wrestling I actually was a fan of.
He's a remarkable example of Poe's law.
ReplyDeleteAlso kinda silly to assume that just because he may not be ready that they wont push them. If they like a guy they will push him, ready or not, here he comes.
ReplyDeleteTremendous unintentionally comedy in Rocky V. Tommy Morrison's stretching out his acting chops is good for several laughs too.
ReplyDeletePeople who don't want to make a $60 commitment to the network, but don't mind a $20 DVD purchase.
ReplyDeleteThe usual people with poor/no high speed internet.
People who want to get the wrestling fan in their life something for their birthday.
The WWE Universe wants to see Cena.
ReplyDeleteYou know what, scratch that. The WWE Universe wants to PAY THEIR OWN MONEY TO ADVERTISE CENA.
That is the true definition of popularity.
They are putting up something like 6-8 Raws per week, aren't they?
ReplyDeleteClubber Lang was Muhammad Ali on steroids. Figuratively and literally.
ReplyDeleteNBA.com interviewer asked him about the end of The Streak and he hated it because Brock's a part timer and suggested Punk should've been the one.
ReplyDeleteThey could go the Rocky Balboa route with Hogan.
ReplyDelete"What was it you told the kid...it's not how hard you can blow...it's how hard you can GET blown...and keep coming back."
What years have they added of Raw? And have they added any of the old NWA TV from the 80's?
ReplyDeleteThey ALREADY have tons of "A&E style Bios" in the terms of the Best of Documentaries they've put toether over the years. That's kind of the point. Do they need to make a new Ric Flair Biography when they've already made 3?
ReplyDeleteThe angles sucked but the work was awesome. Fucking early Steve Austin, Sting, Ricky Steamboat, Rick Rude, Cactus Jack, VADER, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk, Arn Anderson, The Miracle Violence Connection, THE STEINER BROTHERS?
ReplyDeleteWe're just getting into 94 today, but they have the last three(?) years up (2011-2014, I think).
ReplyDeleteNo old NWA TV. But ECW TV and WCCW TV.
That's awesome.
ReplyDeleteNot sure how you can say "nothing new has been added." We started with like 3 episodes of Raw, we now have almost the entire first year. A ton of new ECW TV shows. A ton of new WCCW TV shows. A ton of new MSG and other house shows that are in the vault.
ReplyDeleteThey are adding stuff.
Watched a couple of the Warrior shows and they are depressing as fuck to watch. I had to stop watching the documentary when the documentary showed Warrior at the HOF being inducted and coming out with his kids. I think it was far too soon of wwe to show this stuff.
ReplyDeletepeople who sometimes like to have great matches packaged together instead of hopping from show to show.
ReplyDeleteA year of Raw, a bunch of ECW and WCCW TV and a bunch of MSG house shows aren't enough for you?
ReplyDelete"We all have different ideas of what the Network should include...."
ReplyDeleteExactly! And if they include EVERYTHING that ANYONE wants all at once, they get that guy's money for six month and that's it.
I'm wondering if Piper got to collect his 10k for betting on the Mets in the 86 world series against Heenan.
ReplyDeleteWe can't until we can watch all those Raws from 2001 yet... so I guess it won't be until 2018.
ReplyDeleteI FUCKING LOVED THE ENDING OF THE STREAK.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't have given it to a part-timer like that, but I'm totally okay with it. There's only one reason to build a streak, and that is to END a streak. And it was a total shock ending. I wish the match had been better, but Undertaker got concussed and sometimes bad things happen to good matches. But as someone who's a well-known wrestling fan, people who I never thought watched wrestling were coming up to me and saying, "I can't believe the Undertaker got beat."
That's great booking to me.
plenty of guys they haven't done. Without even getting into the Bockwinkles and Bill Watts types, WWF guys like Ivan Putski, Paul Orndorff, Junkyard Dog, even Iron Mike Sharpe could be done. A few highlight, a few look back, a where are they now, voila, your done.
ReplyDeleteclipped house show at that. They can't even give me the full 3 hour on 90% of them.
ReplyDeleteThey're showing Cena/Big Show at WM XX. It's so rare to see a crowd so unanimously behind Cena. His rapper character is so much more entertaining than whatever he is now.
ReplyDeleteI agree they could do a bunch more, but my point is they already have a bunch sitting around.
ReplyDeleteRoddy Piper, Curt Hennig, Jake Roberts, Ricky Steamboat, Ric Flair, The Horsemen, CM Punk, Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, John Cena, ... and I mean, they have already shown Rock/HHH/Austin. They have the docs, they don't need to reinvent them. Yes, I'd love to see a Paul Orndorff or JYD one (or ANDRE THE GIANT... seriously it boggles my mind he hasn't gotten the DVD treatment yet).
Yeah Tommy seems to just be a pissed off douche the entire movie even when he's supposed to be a sincere hungry kid at the start. Why would Rocky want to help him? I also have a theory Rocky's old leather hat from 1& 2 that he starts wearing is what makes him stupid. He stopped wearing it in 3&4 and in 6 and he's pretty smart Rocky. In five he doesn't go full retard until he puts the hat back on and suddenly he's stupid again. That hat is cursed.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the MSG ones are clipped. And do you really need to see SD Jones v. Pete Dougherty?
ReplyDeleteDamn man. That's what I really wanna see is some NWA TV. What are the chances Vince buys AJPW's tape library? It'd be cool to have some of that on there but they aren't exactly hurting for content.
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting for the best of WCW Blu Ray to dip in price.
ReplyDeleteThe guy that played the Don King-type promoter was spot-on awesome though.
ReplyDeleteYou're right, he does float back into the big dumb guy persona pretty quickly in 5 after seeming relatively intelligent in 3 and 4. One thing that I never got from 5 was why in the hell would they put Paulie in charge of their finances? Putting a guy who's drunk off his ass all the time in charge of millions of dollars is probably not the best idea.
ReplyDeleteI always tear up a little at the Mick scenes in 5. I don't think Burgess Meredith ever gets enough credit for his awesomeness in all of those movies.
ReplyDeleteGod forbid they try and be a business and keep getting people's money.
ReplyDeleteThey almost never do "guys helping train a guy" or even "two superstars are friends" type stuff anymore, it's such a simple way to set up angles. It's like every angle is in a vacuum on the face side.
ReplyDeleteFor example, no one came out to help Daniel Bryan as Kane legally murdered him, but all the heels come out to stand with Evolution against the Shield. I guess the lesson is, "good guys are too busy saying prayers, taking vitamins, and photoshopping goofy pictures of their opponents to help a brother out."
I know. I mean, most of us are basically getting all of this FOR FREE since we would have been paying for WrestleMania in the first place.
ReplyDeleteI just think it's petty. I don't mean to call you out in particular, but I feel everything I've watched thus far is worth my full subscription price and more.
ReplyDeleteThey are adding content all the time. There's new stuff almost every week. It's not full seasons of WCW Saturday Night... but it is new content.
I swear, this board is not used to paying for things, and then bitch when they're not given everything they want for $9.99 per month.
This is probably the service I've gotten the most bang for my buck on. By the way, if you watched WrestleMania (you'd be 1 of nearly 1.5 million)... it's already paid for itself in content.
Ditto for me. I have very minimal complaints about the Network so far. Yes, I'd like to see more, but I know it's coming (the Place to Be guys say so!), so I will wait patiently and watch whatever is available.
ReplyDeleteI bought the Best of WCW PPV's DVD. I have the Network, but sometimes you just want to watch some matches with a theme without going from show to show
ReplyDeleteNo weekly WWF pre-1993 either. No old Superstars. PRIME TIME(!), Livewire, no WCW Saturday Night, no Nitro, no SNME, no WCW Main Event. REALLY lackluster so far.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you qualify as being "of note"?
ReplyDeleteI don't have the network, but reading other people's comments it does sound as if they're adding a fair mix of new stuff?
I like how Brock is in the opening for Main Event. Like Brock would ever work Main Event.
ReplyDeleteAlso they are live in Hershey for this... should I have gone? Eh, whatever.
Didn't you say that you had a nibble the other day?
ReplyDeleteYeah that never made sense. Also where did his robot go? That robot would have been better with finances.
ReplyDeleteIt was match of the year canidate like Hermain Cain was a presidental canidate.
ReplyDeleteOr Mike Tyson minus the lisp.
ReplyDeleteThe basis for all Rocky movie plots portrayed in WWE:
ReplyDeleteRocky
Protagonist: Cesaro Antagonist: The Rock
Rocky II
Protagonist: Cesaro Antagonist: The Rock
Rocky III
Protagonist: Daniel Bryan Antagonist: Brock Lesnar
Rocky IV
Protagonist: Daniel Bryan Antagonist: Alexander Rusev
Rocky IV
Protagonist: Jeff Jarrett Antagonist: Ryback
Rocky Balboa
Protagonist: Hulk Hogan Antagonist: Roman Reigns
Perhaps I shouldn't have actually expected Main Event Live to be, you know, Live, but a friend of mine who is there texted me about 3MB wrestling about 20-30 minutes ago.
ReplyDeleteHungry Hungry Hippos!
ReplyDeleteAnyone watching Main Event?
ReplyDeleteUS Express used Eye of the Tiger?
ReplyDelete" You're right, he does float back into the big dumb guy persona pretty quickly in 5 after seeming relatively intelligent in 3 and 4."
ReplyDeleteHe couldn't fight because of brain damage.
Yeah, but he acts the same way in Rocky 1, pre-brain damage.
ReplyDeletePeople are clammoring for the back catalog of livewire?
ReplyDeletePaulie probably sold it for booze.
ReplyDeleteI am.
ReplyDeleteFucking midgets.
But here's a serious question: Do I really need to bother with Hulu when Main Event and Superstars are rerunning the most important angles from Raw?
In a separate deleted side story, we find that Rocky is the illegitimate son of Charlie Gordon, and genetically inherits the same rapid acceleration and decline of intelligence.
ReplyDeleteJimmy and Jay Uso might be the WWE's longest tenured tag team. I recall seeing them the last time I went to a Hershey Smackdown taping... in 2011.
ReplyDeleteWhen they gave a crap, live wire was cool. "Bruce from Connecticut" for example.
ReplyDeleteDo you mean superfan Vlad? http://midnightlogic.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/vlad.jpg
ReplyDeleteI was just using a random example with the 1998 Raws, I thought that was pretty clear. My point is that the argument that it would take a person over 10 years to watch their entire library is moot. They don't care about providing enough content to keep one person a subscriber for 10 years, they care about providing content to sustain and grow their current population. If you give too much at once, you run the risk of certain segments of their audience getting everything THEY want within their 6 month commitment, and not finding the need to renew.
ReplyDeleteJust got the free trial. Am having a hell of a time navigating. Where would I find these '93 Raws?
ReplyDeleteHulu RAW? I wouldn't bother. Just poke around and find out which matches are worth viewing then search for them on YT.
ReplyDeleteUnder Shows: In Ring: RAW Replays: 1993
ReplyDeleteSunny was awesome on those early Livewires. Vic Venom wasn't.
ReplyDeleteI have a picture with him from WM24 weekend. I knew him as "that guy".
ReplyDeleteTurns out that was Andre's Japan music.
ReplyDeleteSure, torrents are free, and I know how to get them, but I still prefer the Network. I like the quality of the video on the Network over some VHS or DVD rip. The sound, and or audio is always hit or miss. I know the quality is consistent on the Network. It's like I've said before: the Network allows me to forget about the huge boxes of tapes and discs I have collected since 1985. Seriously, I have a fucking Library of Congress in my basement of all WWF PPV's until WM 24 as well as a ton of TV shows and SNME's. It's an shit ton of stuff that I know longer have to worry about the next time I move. The membership to the Network is basically my safe deposit box and I don't need this crap taking up space in my house anymore.
ReplyDeleteBrock won't even wrestle on RAW.
ReplyDeleteMania VIII then Wrestle War 1992 upcoming for me
ReplyDeleteRocky Balboa was terrific; it was also cool to see a fight where the boxers actually put the gloves up.
ReplyDeleteThank you. THE WWE NETWORK DOESN'T COST $10 FOR THE AVERAGE FAN. I'd rather own something I really like like the War Games set, rather than keep paying to watch it.
ReplyDeleteThey messed up the dates on the 1993 RAW's. They are all 1 day added to the day they have listed.
ReplyDeletethere is discussion below of having cena be the apollo character in a rock iv type story
ReplyDeleterussev's line is obvious:
"if he jobs, he jobs"
rocky vee-eye. adrian's revenge!
ReplyDeleteMeet him at Wrestlecon 2 weeks ago. Nice guy, but he smelled funky.
ReplyDeleteIt was Rocky VII.
ReplyDeleteBurgess Meredith was awesome in EVERYTHING. Rocky, Clash of the Titans, Twilight Zone. Everything.
ReplyDeleteBryan has better run up a god dammed mountain to Hearts on Fire.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that dude. I got his name wrong but I will correct it. I spotted him in the crowd at One Night Stand 2005 but that's the only show in the past decade I've spotted him. Dude was at damn near every WWE and WCW show in the 90's so he either had a lot of money or those companies were always giving him free tickets.
ReplyDeleteAndre having music just seems so wrong, that would be like giving Bruno Sammartino music.
ReplyDeleteAre you on WWE's email list? If you are, wait until they have one of their "Buy One, Get One Free" sales. They usually have one every few months and everyone on their email list gets an advance reminder when the sale starts plus you can get two great sets for the price of one so it's a great deal all around.
ReplyDelete"Coming Soon To GAC, Global Force Wrestling's Honky Tonk Hoedown Starring Jeff And Karen Jarrett And The Rest Of The Global Force Wrestling Roster".
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile at the same time, Spike TV will replace Impact with two hours of Bar Rescue reruns. At least it's better than when WCW programming got replaced by constant re-airings of Dirty Dancing.
I'm guessing WWE only hired one dude to rip all of their DVDs into digital file, and poor Howard the Video Guy can only upload one video a day.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, the lack of content on the network is pissing me off and I may very well cancel my subscription after the 6 months is up.
Holy shit...Lana.
ReplyDeleteAnd I've had it for Steph all along. Besides her brick house of a bod, I actually think she's got a great smile and beautiful blue eyes.
And giant cans.
Christ, this is a long-ass fucking thread.
ReplyDeleteThe "guys helping train a guy" could be done with Undertaker working with Roman Reigns.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I understand, he still attends a lot of the major shows. I know he was spotted at WrestleMania 29 in New York.
ReplyDeleteThere's a few other people that seemed to be at all the MSG house shows and generally NYC/Philly/Boston PPV's in the 80's and 90's. Ah, the good ol' days.
My fear of a Rocky-type storyline at this point is that Bryan gets sacrificed in the name of CENA being the Rocky figure who wins in the end and avenges his "little buddy".
ReplyDeleteI'm a fan
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