The UFC and FOX Sports have terminated their respective broadcasting services agreements with analyst and former fighter Chael Sonnen, the companies...
How do you even FAIL an HGH test? Has that ever happened before anywhere? Maybe he should go to WWE, where magically no one has failed a test in years.
Great Chris Jericho moment was when he & Christian conspired with a misdirection play to kickoff the 2003 Royal Rumble Match, resulting in Shawn Michaels taking a chair-shot to the head, wearing the CRIMSON MASK, and being tossed in no time by the King of the World.
I wonder if WWE would ever jump on him? Even though I think a run for him would work really well, he just seems like too much of a rebel rouser for Vince's liking. Plus the multiple failed drug tests aren't helping. It would be entertaining as hell though to watch him cut promos in a WWE environment.
Forgotten Jericho Moment --- Jericho won the *Quickest Match in Wrestling History* as he and Jerry Lawler defeated Naked Mideon & Tazz in 1.7 seconds on Raw in 2000. The opening bell rung during the three count.
I know he and Punk are friends, so I don't know if Punk's status would prevent that from happening. Still, it'd be worth it even for him to come in as this loudmouth ex-MMA fighter, with the conclusion of Brock beating the tar out of him.
Getting lost on the way to the ring was one of the funniest moments of his career, it's amazing how much more entertaining he was when no one was paying any attention to him.
I can't imagine how they would even get along since Sonnen's worldview seems completely opposite from Punk. It would be like Hannity and Colmes hanging out.
Gotta be Jericho introducing all the participants of the Cruiserweight Battle Royal at Slamboree 98. http://www.wwe.com/videos/chris-jericho-announces-the-competitors-during-the-cruiserweight-battle-royal-sl-26016580
"This guy used to be a great bartender, but it hasn't translated to his wrestling skills. He's the scourge of the illustrious Guerrero family, he is Chavo Guerrero, Jr!"
"Now we got Damian. He can't afford a mask, so he uses paint... but sooner or later, he's gonna buy a mask. I guarantee you that."
"The winner of the Lou Ferrigno look-alike contest, he's also from Mexico, El Daaaandy!"
"He's a former champion in many countries... He's gonna rock, rock til he drops. Rock, rock, never stop! Marty Jannetty, ladies and gentleman!"
"This guy is Silver King. He wins 12 more matches, he'll be upgraded to Golden King."
Playing into my Orton hate: Jericho has the Walls of Jericho on somebody during a Raw ME, Orton comes running up whiffs on the RKO, since he has the brain of a toad and the ring presence of a dead man, repeats the exact same spot, this time Jericho plays along.
Probably not forgotten, but definitely the ultra-serious rage-filled promo against the Rock ("I am not a joke!") when he shut the Rock up mid-catchphrase and delivered the goods. Definitely a side of him we'd never seen before.
I remember Jericho being chased up the hall by a wrester (whose name escapes me) on Nitro and stopped running because he thought the segment was over but the cameras were still on and they get a live shot of the guy almost casually catching up to him.
Woo! Back on the mention list! It's a good day, my friends!
I'm going to go with the shenanigans leading up to his WrestleMania match with Commissioner William Regal. Pissing in his teapot and sending Kamala into his office. That may be more for Regal's facial expressions for the interactions, but Jericho seemed to have a lot of fun with it.
Also, Y2J's involvement with Bob Barker during that episode of Raw that Barker hosted. Coming out to play the Price is Right with the name tag on his chest was GOLD! Although I don't know if that counts as "forgotten" since everyone loves that Raw (I love it mainly because I was there live. Have I mentioned that yet?).
I loved his entourage of Ralphus and the Jerichoholic Ninja. Jericho was killing it in WCW and was poised to be a huge star for them. My other mention would be the Benoit / Jericho vs. Triple H / Austin match, just a classic in every sense of the word. Also Chris Benoit on a boat.
One of my favourite Jericho moments is the entrance Jericho makes through the crowd for his match against Rey Mysterio at Extreme Rules 2009 whilst still cutting a promo only to pause several times in order to warn fans to not touch him, "Don't you touch me again, I'll knock you out junior!"
Another forgotten Chris Jericho moment: winning a game of musical chairs on Raw when Eugene was GM briefly, although admittedly Ric Flair stole the show during that segment by shoving Stacy Keibler to the ground so he could steal her chair and then being eliminated after getting too carried away with strutting around the ring.
THAT... was awesome. Flair cheating at musical chairs and getting too into his strutting. Eugene swerved us all by making the title match for something other than the World Title, so boo to him.
I always loved Jericho's quasi-heal turn on the Rock in late 2001. They just lost a tag match and Jericho was busted open. Rock checks on Jericho in the trainer's room to see if he's okay and makes some smart-ass remark. Jericho mutters something like, "What the hell does he want from me? I was trying to win the match." Rock overhears it, comes back in, and demands Jericho repeat it, which Jericho does about two inches from Rock's face, which then leads to a gigantic brawl and Jericho eventually winning the unified titles in December.
During the Bret Hart appreciation deal. Jericho was out there with a ton of other Canadian legends. It's a small thing, but just thought it was really cool to see Chris there honouring one of his heroes, and being a big enough legend to not stick out.
The entirety of his run with Christian, from tagging to feuding - and didn't they each leave at around the same time? I think that speaks more to my appreciation for Christian though, because he came out of one of the greatest tag teams of all time and (after a somewhat rocky start as a singles guy) eventually managed to make he & Jericho almost, if not JUST AS good, as he and Edge were at their best.
One of the best promos he and Rock did, right before their WCW title match: after they sent Steph to the back crying, they turned on each other, and Rock burned him with "and time and time again, YOU FAILED". Jericho eventually comes back and gives him the hand when Rock cuts him off on his "never, ever" line, which ends up with Jericho being Rock Bottomed. It's on YouTube somewhere and it's an absolute classic.
Yeah, the DVD of that even also seemed to go out of print rather quickly, so it wasn't that easily accessible for a while back when DVD was still one of the main ways to watch such things.
I'm watching Kaufman's Memphis run in small doses, and I really wonder who would fit in that role today? I mean his role as World Intergender Wrestling Champion, not the "Lawler kills him" part of that run.
Well, there was the time I e-mailed Jericho on his old WebTV e-mail address and asked him, "Dave or Sammy?" He wrote me back and said...honestly, I don't remember what he said, except that he was psyched for the new VH album with Gary Cherone. I was, too...and we were both horribly wrong (although I don't hate Van Halen 3 nearly as much as the rest of humanity).
As for a moment that someone else would have seen, I love the whole improvised feud with Goldberg where he kept claiming "wins" over Goldberg that the big guy never showed up for. It was a great example of Chris taking something goofy, running with it and getting it over. Reading in his first book about what was going on behind the scenes and how Chris fought to give it something resembling a blowoff makes the whole thing even better, IMO.
Ok, but that's like trying to make a Wall Street banker sympathetic by showing him being forced to live in a smaller mansion. People have no reason to give a fuck.
Dave. Always Dave. Debut album to 1984 is phenomenal, although Diver Down didn't do much for me. Sammy is too poppy and safe for me, even though I like some of his solo stuff and love Montrose.
Tag match with him, Punk and Bryan, where he was tagged in and proceeded to be so happy that he didn't touch anyone, choosing to celebrate with the fans and run out while the match was still going on.
From what I understand, testosterone replacement and HGH are a bit of a slippery slope; in that once you've taken it once, you essentially need to cycle it for the rest of your competitive career just to remain normal and counteract the body's natural estrogen production (which goes into overdrive after you first take those supplements in the first place).
But I don't understand much (and could be completely wrong), and Chael is such an effective trolly douchebag that I don't really like him anyway, so, whatevs.
True. But, I love Mike's backing vocals and high register. I'd love to see the original lineup, even for just one night. Have them do an album anniversary show with Mike and play one of the albums from start to finish.
I wouldn't get too excited about people liking a recap. It isn't exactly challenging writing, and all it probably means is they got sufficient information about something they didn't care enough about to watch themselves. Also, never watch that show. It's bad for you. There's no reason to watch anything on E! except Joel McHale.
For that matter, I know they're necessary for this site but I'd avoid doing straightforward recaps if you want to really, truly write. Anyone can do a recap.
Anyway, I thought Kyle's advice was pretty direct, albeit worded sort of odd in an obvious manner: try something else. Frankly, this didn't work at all. But it happens. I didn't like the last thing I wrote at all. It was a piece at P2B about The Shield's breakup, and how it represented the larger idea that in wrestling, to get what we want we sort of need to go through a lot of stuff we don't want to see...typing it now I still think I had a really good premise, but it just did not come together.
So give it a little more time, put a little more thought into how you structure the next thing you try. Flesh out your idea a little bit more, make sure your premise has legs and with some work, maybe it'll come together next time.
I'm still not sure I agree with the if the next column fails leave though advice as the first one did well (not that I would if it did). FWIW you know I wrote two other articles on your blog, maybe I should put one of those up here? lol
I wouldn't say it's getting over, though. I think what happens is Bo snaps after realizing it isn't going well and he releases all his hate and frustration.
The happy-joy-inspiration thing is cheesy and has a shelf life. There's no way he goes further with it. I think he'll lose it. If not now, relatively soon. You can see it coming. They've been telegraphing it - Titus knocking the mic out of his hands, Bryan calling him a boner, various wrestlers shoving him away during a hug...it's coming.
It doesn't even have to do with Bray.
Though, some time, down the line, I DO predict that Dallas and Bray will end up in each other's ways.
I say do whats true to you and keep going if you feel so inclined. I enjoyed. And posting snarky comments on messageboards isn't productive or creative which renders it valueless in every aspect.
I agree that in general writing a recap isn't challenging. I'd argue that I have a friend who wrote music reviews (which isn't the same as a recap per se but they are similar) who was very talented (an opinion shared by many not just myself he had a lot of readers) and who made lots of cash doing so. If nothing else, writing recaps can help me improve writing skills for writing non-recap stories, which I still plan on turning in.
My real favorite Jericho moment is his appearance on Opie and Anthony to promote that very album. He showed up as Moongoose and proceeded through a 30 minute interview refusing to break character and annoying the living hell out of the hosts and every listener. It was his very first appearance and it was years before they invited him back they had annoyed them so badly. Now they're all great friends and do spectacular radio together (as Jericho does generally)
Maybe your TV is showing different segments than mine shows. I can't really argue this point any further, because if your TV is showing different segments than mine there's nothing I can do about that.
"The happy-joy-inspiration thing is cheesy and has a shelf life."
Well, sure. Almost every gimmick has a shelf life. That's why most of them don't rocket to the main event and stay there for years. But it's nowhere near that point after a month.
It seems like you're basing your opinion on whether it's getting over right now with what you think might happen in the future. I have no idea how long it'll last.
"I think he'll lose it. If not now, relatively soon. You can see it coming. They've been telegraphing it - Titus knocking the mic out of his hands, Bryan calling him a boner, various wrestlers shoving him away during a hug...it's coming."
Right, that's why it's getting over. Because he so fully commits to the inspirational bit even as everyone around him sees what a jackass he's being. That doesn't mean they're "telegraphing" the gimmick radically changing already, it means they're giving it something to play off of so he's not doing it against air.
I don't know if the gimmick will work long-term, because it's likely to change in a fairly radical way before he advances. Because again, that's what happens to almost everyone. But it's working now, and lumping him in with a radically different gimmick just because he's brothers with the leader of it would be so silly.
Oh I have a good Jericho moment - back in the way back in time I e-mailed Scott asking about ghost written wrestler books and Scott mentioned he got an offer to ghost-write Jericho's which prompted his agent to e-mail Scott saying it wasn't true. I inadvertently rabbled the rouses.
Reminds me of that scene in "Airheads" when the cop comes to the window.
The answer should always be Dave. I like Sammy plenty, and thought some of the non single stuff on Balance was pretty awesome, but Sammy just doesn't sound like VH to me. I loves me some Chickenfoot and Montrose though.
That musical chairs video was posted a couple weeks ago on here. Such an awesome, goofy moment that worked because the people involved (Jericho, Flair, Keibler, etc.) made it work.
LOL, the funny thing is I can't tell if you also mean I've been posting snarky things back. I tried to keep it classy, but admittedly did write some snark back today.
I like how Sonnen says he retired. In order to retire, you have to win a championship. If you fail to win one, you quit. I'm glad he's gone. He was a great talker and whatnot, but he was one of Dana's boys so he got fights that he didn't deserve.
No, really. It isn't getting over. The giant pop when Dallas was told to leave and the name-calling from the crowd pretty much seals it. Even when he tries to yell "BO-LIEEEEVE", 17 people in the crowd chant along (after like 9 shows) like people at a company birthday party who half-ass their way through "Happy Birthday".
"But it's working now, and lumping him in with a radically different gimmick just because he's brothers with the leader of it would be so silly."
Cody became Stardust, a radically different gimmick because he was brothers with Dustin...I'm failing to see the point.
Yeah, a music review is definitely a totally different thing. There are ways to do a recap that challenge you and the reader more. Not to pat myself on the back- but I guess I can, since I just criticized my last article for being so sh- but I was doing a sort of AV Club-style Raw recap for awhile last fall and people seemed to like it. It probably could've been done in a way that was more accessible for people who hadn't watched the show. But it's a way that allows you to "cover" an event but still turn it into a worthwhile writing exercise.
I've never understood the hate towards John Cena. I wonder if part of it may be jealousy of all the good work/publicity he does with kids. As the first celebrity to grant 400 wishes of terminal children (which even people who don't like him as a character might find admirable) he got a lot of publicity and with that comes jealousy on some people's parts.
So because Cody did a thing, Bo- who hasn't been on the main roster for seven years like Cody has been- needs to do a similar thing? I can see why you're failing to see the point.
if you have any pointers feel free to share. My email is heyskylar00@gmail.com if so inclined. That being said...one of my favorite parts of the movie "Private Parts" about Howard Stern is where it's realized that people who say that they hate him listen longer, to see what he'll do next. Do I think I'll ever be as loved or hated as Howard Stern, heck, no, but look at us all still discussing this article the next day even though the biggest complaint listed at first was people didn't read it (but yet still felt qualified to judge it).
In writing, I've learned that you can't fully please anyone. When I started, they wanted stars instead of letters. So, I tried that. Then I had people who wanted the grades back. Somebody even suggested using vegetable grades. I still don't know what that was about...
I don't see how you can't say it's getting over. A lot of people are booing him. They don't like him, which is EXACTLY the point of being a heel. Some people are, also, cheering him. I mean, some people say that heels aren't supposed to have any fans, which is just stupid, because there are always going to be people who like heels. Ric Flair, arguably the greatest heel ever, received a lot of cheers as a heel. Also, Kurt Angle had a few main event runs with a cheesy gimmick. So I cannot agree that it doesn't work.
It's because he's been doing the same, cheesy thing for years. He's the only mega face in history that started getting a heel reaction and didn't turn heel, and that was eight years ago when it started. It has nothing to do with the Make-A-Wish, because even his most vehement haters will laud him for that, and most will generally understand that it's why he isn't turning heel.
I actually like Cena, myself, but the hate isn't really that hard to understand. He's always worked best as the foil to the guy we *really* want to see standing triumphantly: RVD at One Night Stand, Punk at MITB, Rock at WM28, Bryan at Summerslam. Even Triple H at WM22 and Edge throughout most of 2006 would be examples of this.
Thing is, I am a casual fan at best, and the only fights I cared about involved Brock or Chael. So he had the PPV buys of the hardcore fans no matter what, but put Chael in there, and I might chip in with a few friends to see it too.
For example, when it was Bones Jones vs some guy (see what I just said about being a casual?), I'm sure it was a potentially solid and even fight, but I had never heard of the other guy. Then he got injured, and rumors of Chael filling in at the last minute, suddenly, it was 2 big names that I had heard of, and I wanted to see it, even though it was a mismatch. They would have had my money.
Another gem: He interrupts Carlito's Cabana when Carlito is boasting of interviewing HBK after his heel turn on Hogan in '05, saying Michaels is going to be on the Highlight Reel and he and Carlito snap back at each other. Fun with Jericho calling Carlito "Sideshow Bob" and "you don't tell me what's cool, I'm Canadian!"
Kurt Angle and Ric Flair got over because they had an insane amount of skill and were both great on the mic. Both were guys who, despite their outward appearance, were guys you didn't want to mess with.
Dallas has grating mic skills and hasn't really proven himself past beating up jobbers week after week with a weak bulldog move off the ropes. There's no velocity.
On top of that, his "heat" is relegated to maybe a sixth of the arena who doesn't know what to make of him.
I WANT Dallas to get over. Seriously, I think he's got it in him. I just think that he's been watered down much like Adam Rose, Emma, and Paige.
Because I never said Bo and Bray "wouldn't work." I said it would be totally pointless right now, because what Bo is doing on his own is so clearly working. Why lump him in with a thing that doesn't need him- because it's obviously working pretty well itself right now- when he doesn't need that thing?
In six months if Bo-lieve stagnates and Bray is still doing the Family thing, yeah, do it. But right now? It's hard to articulate further why that doesn't make any sense, because it's self-evident that Bo's gimmick is working just fine. Arguing that point any further is akin to yelling at clouds.
Whether it has a shelf life or a ceiling isn't really relevant, because if he gets over enough with this it can lead to bigger and better, less gimmicky things once the audience has that amount of time invested in him as a performer. See: Punk as SES/Nexus leader, leading to Summer of Punk. See: thug life John Cena becoming top guy forever-and-ever nice guy Cena.
One here and additonally two for your blog that aren't on here (one on watching The Divas as a female fan, and one on suggested improvements for Total Divas Season Three). Kyle, if you go to Matt's other blog you can see them there if you like.
Chael was my favorite and one of the most entertaining fighters in history. Guy talked himself into a UFC fight that did 1,000,000+ buys and no-one else can say that.
Even if you erase Bray and take him totally out of the picture, I bet Dallas gets a major overhaul in two to three months or, at the very least, starts to show that he's losing his shit.
I think you're deluding yourself when you say he's "over". I don't think he is. Every single time he comes out to the ring, there's a mild audience reaction with some booing and not much else.
I think, like Cena, he'll transform...but I think Dallas loses it and becomes the very thing he hates.
The difference was Howard had perfected his medium and had found a widespread platform for it. You- or any of us who write for fun on these sites- have done neither of those things, to say the least.
Don't get into whether or not people are liking it or hating it. Worry about actually becoming good. I don't mean that as an insult, because like I said earlier, in a vacuum there was some decent stuff in here that just wasn't fleshed out.
If you get popular enough that you can somehow monetize the people who "hate" you, great. But that really isn't relevant to where you're at right now.
LOL, Not everything I write will be fantasy booking I promise. I just wanted to branch out past the Divas recap I wrote here (and will be futher recapping) and other Divas articles I wrote for Matt's other blog.
"Kurt Angle and Ric Flair got over because they had an insane amount of skill and were both great on the mic. Both were guys who, despite their outward appearance, were guys you didn't want to mess with."
I brought up Angle because you said the gimmick can't reach the next level. I didn't compare Flair to Dallas. I made a point that he's arguably the greatest heel ever, and even he got cheers.
"Dallas has grating mic skills and hasn't really proven himself past beating up jobbers week after week with a weak bulldog move off the ropes. There's no velocity."
Well, yeah, they're trying to build him up. It's usually how it works when they're launching a new wrestler that they believe has a future. I don't know, I like his promos. They're over-dramatic and cheesy in a good way. He's pretty much playing an irritating heel who thinks he's a babyface. It's clever when you think about it, because there are so many cheesy, goody-goody, happy-go-lucky wrestlers who are booed by a lot of fans - i.e Sheamus/John Cena.
The thing about TRT is that it's super easy to get a bogus prescription for it. So easy that the UFC banned it wholesale because it was impossible to tell who legit needed it and who didn't.
So the specifics of it as it relates to the UFC are irrelevant and Sonnen should have known better since Dana made a huge deal out of it, essentially saying that if you need it, you shouldn't be fighting professionally and you wouldn't be for the UFC.
Did you expect the audience to start losing their shit and rioting the moment his music hits? "Over" is a relative term. He's been at this a month and almost the entire Raw audience hasn't watched him in NXT. They're already getting it. Like I said: it's a waste of energy to argue that specific point further, because your opinion of what's happening right now is clearly being skewed by what you think might happen in a few months, which is a weird way to formulate opinions.
Yep, and what made Elizabeth so much hotter was her "good girl" status. A woman could look exactly like her, but if she acted and dressed like a skank, it just wouldn't be as big of a deal. But Liz was a total "girl next door/saint". so any time she dressed in something hot, she was exponentially hotter.
lol as above I said, "Do I think I'll ever be as loved or hated as Howard Stern, heck, no", I fully realize I'll never be in the same league with him, I'm just noting I wrote a recap that people liked or were neutral on, some comments, I write this and get more responses.
No, but even for a heel, he should be getting an overwhelming amount of heat by now or the majority of the arena feeling something. Instead, he's like Adam Rose: he's sent out there to die each week.
It isn't about what I think will happen in the future. I'm telling you what I'm seeing. The Bo-lieve gimmick isn't going to go anywhere except towards a shift to something else that's, most likely, radically different.
No, I get the concept. I just like the irony. Hate Cena for being cheesy for years, which Bo Dallas should do, too...and then we end up liking him for it?
Regal: "The R is for Royalty, The E is for Excellence, the G is for....." (Y2J pyro entrance interrupts) Jericho: ".....the G is for....GOOD GODDDDD! REGAL Would you PLEEEEEASE......SHUT!!!.....The HELLLLLLL........UP!"
I sort of want to see WWE go full hypocrite and release her, when they didn't release Swagger and Cameron (and then lying about her employment) for DUIs.
Andre was always tight with Watts, and maybe he saw it as a chance to hit up some old colleagues. Supposedly Vince was legitimately devastated, and Andre regretted doing it.
Sadly, how many good matches did Duggan have after the UWF? I know the Vader match was carried by him (shockingly) and he had a good match in 1999 with Berlin - in spite of him supposedly oly being there to put Alex Wright over. With all due respect, Alex Wright just was never going to be anything in wrestling. Sadly, I can't remember if his brain tumor came before or after Berlin - I think if was before.
I seriously would like to know if Duggan ever had more than two **** matches? I'm even sadder that he didn't even get the honor to job to Hogan during the nWo run. Duggan would have done that with open arms.
I think Andre knew he was dying between 1990-1993 and liked partying with old buddies - so he decided why not. He was more or less done as a wrestler in spite of wrestling weeks before he died.
When he was making his rise as a heel in WCW and feuding with Prince Iaukea - #1, calling him "Prince Hakamaki" and #2, claiming the scale wasn't properly calibrated at a weigh-in and calibrating it by smacking it upside Iaukea's head.
I've actually seen Fozzy live twice, and they are actually really, really good live. Jericho is born to be a frontman, and the band sounds great. And since they haven't really made it huge yet, you can literally see them 4 feet in front of your face
The first half can be summed up in an old Chinese "curse": "May you live in interesting times." WAY too many "interesting times" for the US defense in that first half, and the lack of possession does not bode well.
Also, losing Fabian Johnson and having to bring Yedlin on so early... ugh.
I refuse to recognize WCW Elizabeth. As far as I'm concerned, after she left Macho she went around the world building orphanages until her plane tragically went down ala Roberto Clemente.
The Chael/Jones fight flopped on pay per view and his performance was absolutely pathetic. He just bent over and let Jones and Evans give it to him in the ass. He must have been on an up cycle against Shogun.
I was getting very very tired of him talking shit and getting steamrolled...good riddance to bad rubbish. Maybe when clearing out the cheaters we can get rid of Vitor too.
Emma: "I felt like I had a void in my life like... like there was a secret hole in me." Santino: "Oh God!" Emma: "And I was trying to fill that hole with all kinds of expensive objects and things..." Santino: "Oh Gaahhooddd!" Emma: "And I felt wonderful with all those things fillin' that hole." Santino: "OH GAAHAHAHHAAAD!" Emma: "I did this to myself, so just gonna have to lay back and the penal system teach me a lesson." Santino: "That one is also sexual."
Sadly, at this point, DUI's are pretty much equivalent to riding a bicyle without a helmet, or walking on the wrong side of the road. It's just a non-factor at this point, and nobody gets in trouble for it.
For a long time I stayed away from Fozzy because I figured they were just a vanity project but I listened to Chasing the Grail and it was really good. Also thought Sin and Bones was good as well.
How are we defining what his "forgotten" moments are, exactly?
ReplyDeleteGreat Chris Jericho moment was when he & Christian conspired with a misdirection play to kickoff the 2003 Royal Rumble Match, resulting in Shawn Michaels taking a chair-shot to the head, wearing the CRIMSON MASK, and being tossed in no time by the King of the World.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if WWE would ever jump on him? Even though I think a run for him would work really well, he just seems like too much of a rebel rouser for Vince's liking. Plus the multiple failed drug tests aren't helping. It would be entertaining as hell though to watch him cut promos in a WWE environment.
ReplyDeleteSummerslam 1999, interrupting Road Dog. "You wanna impress me? Spell 'lugubrious.'"
ReplyDeleteWhen he had the inaugural Diva Search contestants trash Bischoff's office, only to be punished with a match... WITH THE DEMON KANE!
ReplyDeleteOr hell. Maybe he should just go to hell.
ReplyDeleteThe feud with Bobby Duncam Jr.
ReplyDeleteBecause it needed to be forgotten.
Forgotten Jericho Moment --- Jericho won the *Quickest Match in Wrestling History* as he and Jerry Lawler defeated Naked Mideon & Tazz in 1.7 seconds on Raw in 2000. The opening bell rung during the three count.
ReplyDeleteI'm not really a fan... so any time he went away
ReplyDeleteSee ya Chael! Don't let the door hit the needle in your ass on the way out.
ReplyDeleteI know he and Punk are friends, so I don't know if Punk's status would prevent that from happening. Still, it'd be worth it even for him to come in as this loudmouth ex-MMA fighter, with the conclusion of Brock beating the tar out of him.
ReplyDeleteFan: Go back to Toronto!!
ReplyDeleteJericho: I'm from Winnipeg you idiot.
Such an awesome improvised little moment.
B- fighter, A+ troll. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
ReplyDeleteMan, I cannot imagine a cockier duo of friends than CM Punk and Chael Sonnen.
ReplyDelete"let the boobies hit the floor"
ReplyDeletedressing up as doink
when he knocked out hbk's wife
not forgotten b/c we all remember it, but when he kicked hbk in the ding ding (TM steve corino) after their wm xix match
also, getting lost on the way to the ring
My answer gets skipped for like the fifth day in a row. Guy must hate WCW.
ReplyDeleteGetting lost on the way to the ring was one of the funniest moments of his career, it's amazing how much more entertaining he was when no one was paying any attention to him.
ReplyDeleteWell, his wife just won the women's title last night, so I'm guessing a casual buddy wouldn't be precluded from consideration.
ReplyDeleteWhen he transformed into Jon Bon Jovi was rather impressive.
ReplyDeleteWhen I met him at a book signing in Tyson's Corner, VA. He definitely forgot about that.
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine how they would even get along since Sonnen's worldview seems completely opposite from Punk. It would be like Hannity and Colmes hanging out.
ReplyDeleteGotta be Jericho introducing all the participants of the Cruiserweight Battle Royal at Slamboree 98. http://www.wwe.com/videos/chris-jericho-announces-the-competitors-during-the-cruiserweight-battle-royal-sl-26016580
ReplyDelete"This guy used to be a great bartender, but it hasn't translated to his wrestling skills. He's the scourge of the illustrious Guerrero family, he is Chavo Guerrero, Jr!"
"Now we got Damian. He can't afford a mask, so he uses paint... but sooner or later, he's gonna buy a mask. I guarantee you that."
"The winner of the Lou Ferrigno look-alike contest, he's also from Mexico, El Daaaandy!"
"He's a former champion in many countries... He's gonna rock, rock til he drops. Rock, rock, never stop! Marty Jannetty, ladies and gentleman!"
"This guy is Silver King. He wins 12 more matches, he'll be upgraded to Golden King."
Just thinking about this still makes me laugh.
Playing into my Orton hate: Jericho has the Walls of Jericho on somebody during a Raw ME, Orton comes running up whiffs on the RKO, since he has the brain of a toad and the ring presence of a dead man, repeats the exact same spot, this time Jericho plays along.
ReplyDeleteI had forgotten about this. good one.
ReplyDeleteProbably not forgotten, but definitely the ultra-serious rage-filled promo against the Rock ("I am not a joke!") when he shut the Rock up mid-catchphrase and delivered the goods.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely a side of him we'd never seen before.
I remember Jericho being chased up the hall by a wrester (whose name escapes me) on Nitro and stopped running because he thought the segment was over but the cameras were still on and they get a live shot of the guy almost casually catching up to him.
ReplyDeleteWoo! Back on the mention list! It's a good day, my friends!
ReplyDeleteI'm going to go with the shenanigans leading up to his WrestleMania match with Commissioner William Regal. Pissing in his teapot and sending Kamala into his office. That may be more for Regal's facial expressions for the interactions, but Jericho seemed to have a lot of fun with it.
Also, Y2J's involvement with Bob Barker during that episode of Raw that Barker hosted. Coming out to play the Price is Right with the name tag on his chest was GOLD! Although I don't know if that counts as "forgotten" since everyone loves that Raw (I love it mainly because I was there live. Have I mentioned that yet?).
You ain't Charles Barkley! Just a wannabe who looks like him!
ReplyDeleteBecause anyone can do that. He seems to want to encourage forgotten things and stuff we can learn.
ReplyDeleteTriple H? He was fighting for the title that year. :p
ReplyDeleteI loved his entourage of Ralphus and the Jerichoholic Ninja. Jericho was killing it in WCW and was poised to be a huge star for them. My other mention would be the Benoit / Jericho vs. Triple H / Austin match, just a classic in every sense of the word. Also Chris Benoit on a boat.
ReplyDeleteBreaking the Jeritron 6000 on Shawn Michaels' stupid face.
ReplyDeleteThat's a lot of douchiness in one room.
ReplyDeleteWrath. It was Wrath.
ReplyDeleteWhen he won a cage match against X-Pac by giving him one of the most insane ballshots in history, when X landed crotch-first on the open door.
ReplyDeleteTalking to the crazy conspiracy theory lady in Washington DC:
ReplyDelete"Are you a Jericholic?
"I don't know what that is."
Washed-up never-was like Chael? Nooo...this has TNA written all over it.
ReplyDeleteOne of my favourite Jericho moments is the entrance Jericho makes through the crowd for his match against Rey Mysterio at Extreme Rules 2009 whilst still cutting a promo only to pause several times in order to warn fans to not touch him, "Don't you touch me again, I'll knock you out junior!"
ReplyDeleteAnother forgotten Chris Jericho moment: winning a game of musical chairs on Raw when Eugene was GM briefly, although admittedly Ric Flair stole the show during that segment by shoving Stacy Keibler to the ground so he could steal her chair and then being eliminated after getting too carried away with strutting around the ring.
TNA will be all over this dude.
ReplyDeleteTHAT... was awesome. Flair cheating at musical chairs and getting too into his strutting. Eugene swerved us all by making the title match for something other than the World Title, so boo to him.
ReplyDeleteThat was a fairly popular .gif file for about 3 years. Still laughing they repeated the spot like nothing happened.
ReplyDeleteI initially thought the headline was about UFC in general.
ReplyDeleteI always loved Jericho's quasi-heal turn on the Rock in late 2001. They just lost a tag match and Jericho was busted open. Rock checks on Jericho in the trainer's room to see if he's okay and makes some smart-ass remark. Jericho mutters something like, "What the hell does he want from me? I was trying to win the match." Rock overhears it, comes back in, and demands Jericho repeat it, which Jericho does about two inches from Rock's face, which then leads to a gigantic brawl and Jericho eventually winning the unified titles in December.
ReplyDeleteGood stuff.
During the Bret Hart appreciation deal. Jericho was out there with a ton of other Canadian legends. It's a small thing, but just thought it was really cool to see Chris there honouring one of his heroes, and being a big enough legend to not stick out.
ReplyDeleteThe entirety of his run with Christian, from tagging to feuding - and didn't they each leave at around the same time? I think that speaks more to my appreciation for Christian though, because he came out of one of the greatest tag teams of all time and (after a somewhat rocky start as a singles guy) eventually managed to make he & Jericho almost, if not JUST AS good, as he and Edge were at their best.
ReplyDeleteSlapjack, I believe. Although if I'm wrong then I may very well qualify as a fruit booty.
ReplyDeleteOh man, I LOVED that. Hitting X-Pac in the crotch should be a national sport.
ReplyDeleteBut why was he Doink?
ReplyDeleteOne of the best promos he and Rock did, right before their WCW title match: after they sent Steph to the back crying, they turned on each other, and Rock burned him with "and time and time again, YOU FAILED". Jericho eventually comes back and gives him the hand when Rock cuts him off on his "never, ever" line, which ends up with Jericho being Rock Bottomed. It's on YouTube somewhere and it's an absolute classic.
ReplyDeleteDude, you're too good. They shouldn't make you Doink...
ReplyDeleteYeah, the DVD of that even also seemed to go out of print rather quickly, so it wasn't that easily accessible for a while back when DVD was still one of the main ways to watch such things.
ReplyDeleteDID YOU KNOW? - Emma is a highly trained actress. She studied at the Winona Ryder School of Modern Drama.
ReplyDeleteShe took first prize in the Theater Arts Competition.. She didn't win it, she just took the prize..
Speaking of weird appearances, I always found it strange that Andre's last U.S. appearance was for WCW. Anyone know what the deal was there?
ReplyDeleteExcept for those ones they show on the Network.
ReplyDeleteI'm from Winnipeg you idiot! always makes me smile.
ReplyDeleteI'm watching Kaufman's Memphis run in small doses, and I really wonder who would fit in that role today? I mean his role as World Intergender Wrestling Champion, not the "Lawler kills him" part of that run.
ReplyDeleteThat might be an interesting QOTD...
Well, there was the time I e-mailed Jericho on his old WebTV e-mail address and asked him, "Dave or Sammy?" He wrote me back and said...honestly, I don't remember what he said, except that he was psyched for the new VH album with Gary Cherone. I was, too...and we were both horribly wrong (although I don't hate Van Halen 3 nearly as much as the rest of humanity).
ReplyDeleteAs for a moment that someone else would have seen, I love the whole improvised feud with Goldberg where he kept claiming "wins" over Goldberg that the big guy never showed up for. It was a great example of Chris taking something goofy, running with it and getting it over. Reading in his first book about what was going on behind the scenes and how Chris fought to give it something resembling a blowoff makes the whole thing even better, IMO.
Ok, but that's like trying to make a Wall Street banker sympathetic by showing him being forced to live in a smaller mansion. People have no reason to give a fuck.
ReplyDeleteTaking a leak in Regal's tea. Juvenile, but funny as hell.
ReplyDeleteDave. Always Dave. Debut album to 1984 is phenomenal, although Diver Down didn't do much for me. Sammy is too poppy and safe for me, even though I like some of his solo stuff and love Montrose.
ReplyDeleteWhen he cut a promo on Undertaker and Big Show on Smackdown, telling them they were putting the fans to sleep.
ReplyDeleteSorry to nitpick but that was on RAW.
ReplyDeleteRight, but this is probably the audience that's most likely to have remembered these supposed "forgotten" moments.
ReplyDeleteAlways a classic line.
ReplyDeleteLeading to one of the bests feuds of 08.
ReplyDeletei dunno, i think diver down is pretty solid
ReplyDeleteYes! Yes!! Yes!!!
ReplyDeleteMu Aunt Debbie hated wrestling, but even she laughed at the "Stinko Malenko" line.
ReplyDeleteJericho as a conspiracy victim in Washington, D.C.
Jericho's "victories" over "Bill Greenberg"
Tag match with him, Punk and Bryan, where he was tagged in and proceeded to be so happy that he didn't touch anyone, choosing to celebrate with the fans and run out while the match was still going on.
ReplyDeleteThat was hilarious.
From what I understand, testosterone replacement and HGH are a bit of a slippery slope; in that once you've taken it once, you essentially need to cycle it for the rest of your competitive career just to remain normal and counteract the body's natural estrogen production (which goes into overdrive after you first take those supplements in the first place).
ReplyDeleteBut I don't understand much (and could be completely wrong), and Chael is such an effective trolly douchebag that I don't really like him anyway, so, whatevs.
True. But, I love Mike's backing vocals and high register. I'd love to see the original lineup, even for just one night. Have them do an album anniversary show with Mike and play one of the albums from start to finish.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't get too excited about people liking a recap. It isn't exactly challenging writing, and all it probably means is they got sufficient information about something they didn't care enough about to watch themselves. Also, never watch that show. It's bad for you. There's no reason to watch anything on E! except Joel McHale.
ReplyDeleteFor that matter, I know they're necessary for this site but I'd avoid doing straightforward recaps if you want to really, truly write. Anyone can do a recap.
Anyway, I thought Kyle's advice was pretty direct, albeit worded sort of odd in an obvious manner: try something else. Frankly, this didn't work at all. But it happens. I didn't like the last thing I wrote at all. It was a piece at P2B about The Shield's breakup, and how it represented the larger idea that in wrestling, to get what we want we sort of need to go through a lot of stuff we don't want to see...typing it now I still think I had a really good premise, but it just did not come together.
So give it a little more time, put a little more thought into how you structure the next thing you try. Flesh out your idea a little bit more, make sure your premise has legs and with some work, maybe it'll come together next time.
I'm still not sure I agree with the if the next column fails leave though advice as the first one did well (not that I would if it did). FWIW you know I wrote two other articles on your blog, maybe I should put one of those up here? lol
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say it's getting over, though. I think what happens is Bo snaps after realizing it isn't going well and he releases all his hate and frustration.
ReplyDeleteThe happy-joy-inspiration thing is cheesy and has a shelf life. There's no way he goes further with it. I think he'll lose it. If not now, relatively soon. You can see it coming. They've been telegraphing it - Titus knocking the mic out of his hands, Bryan calling him a boner, various wrestlers shoving him away during a hug...it's coming.
It doesn't even have to do with Bray.
Though, some time, down the line, I DO predict that Dallas and Bray will end up in each other's ways.
Benoit.
ReplyDeleteI say do whats true to you and keep going if you feel so inclined. I enjoyed. And posting snarky comments on messageboards isn't productive or creative which renders it valueless in every aspect.
ReplyDeleteTracks from the upcoming album and last album have been really good, too. Not just "good for a wrestler" or "good for a side project."
ReplyDeleteTo clarify: I think the gimmick is annoying people. In that case, I suppose it's "over" in that people hate it.
ReplyDeleteI agree that in general writing a recap isn't challenging. I'd argue that I have a friend who wrote music reviews (which isn't the same as a recap per se but they are similar) who was very talented (an opinion shared by many not just myself he had a lot of readers) and who made lots of cash doing so. If nothing else, writing recaps can help me improve writing skills for writing non-recap stories, which I still plan on turning in.
ReplyDeleteI think they get far too much hate. I like at least half of their stuff, and the other half isn't horrible, just cheesy.
ReplyDeleteAm I the only person who pictures Emma doing that dance with her arms while grabbing the iPod case?
ReplyDeleteMy real favorite Jericho moment is his appearance on Opie and Anthony to promote that very album. He showed up as Moongoose and proceeded through a 30 minute interview refusing to break character and annoying the living hell out of the hosts and every listener. It was his very first appearance and it was years before they invited him back they had annoyed them so badly. Now they're all great friends and do spectacular radio together (as Jericho does generally)
ReplyDelete"I wouldn't say it's getting over, though."
ReplyDeleteOh.
Well.... it is.
Maybe your TV is showing different segments than mine shows. I can't really argue this point any further, because if your TV is showing different segments than mine there's nothing I can do about that.
"The happy-joy-inspiration thing is cheesy and has a shelf life."
Well, sure. Almost every gimmick has a shelf life. That's why most of them don't rocket to the main event and stay there for years. But it's nowhere near that point after a month.
It seems like you're basing your opinion on whether it's getting over right now with what you think might happen in the future. I have no idea how long it'll last.
"I think he'll lose it. If not now, relatively soon. You can see it coming. They've been telegraphing it - Titus knocking the mic out of his hands, Bryan calling him a boner, various wrestlers shoving him away during a hug...it's coming."
Right, that's why it's getting over. Because he so fully commits to the inspirational bit even as everyone around him sees what a jackass he's being. That doesn't mean they're "telegraphing" the gimmick radically changing already, it means they're giving it something to play off of so he's not doing it against air.
I don't know if the gimmick will work long-term, because it's likely to change in a fairly radical way before he advances. Because again, that's what happens to almost everyone. But it's working now, and lumping him in with a radically different gimmick just because he's brothers with the leader of it would be so silly.
Oh I have a good Jericho moment - back in the way back in time I e-mailed Scott asking about ghost written wrestler books and Scott mentioned he got an offer to ghost-write Jericho's which prompted his agent to e-mail Scott saying it wasn't true. I inadvertently rabbled the rouses.
ReplyDeleteI chased that moment.
People have a funny way of showing their annoyance with all those cheers.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of that scene in "Airheads" when the cop comes to the window.
ReplyDeleteThe answer should always be Dave. I like Sammy plenty, and thought some of the non single stuff on Balance was pretty awesome, but Sammy just doesn't sound like VH to me. I loves me some Chickenfoot and Montrose though.
Chael is big on the right wing?
ReplyDeleteThat musical chairs video was posted a couple weeks ago on here. Such an awesome, goofy moment that worked because the people involved (Jericho, Flair, Keibler, etc.) made it work.
ReplyDeleteMoongoose and Jericho pretending to not know each other was pretty fucking fantastic to me.
ReplyDeleteFlair strutting after Keibler, then pushing her down when the music stopped is such a Ric Flair thing to do. So awesome.
ReplyDeleteLOL, the funny thing is I can't tell if you also mean I've been posting snarky things back. I tried to keep it classy, but admittedly did write some snark back today.
ReplyDeleteI like how Sonnen says he retired. In order to retire, you have to win a championship. If you fail to win one, you quit. I'm glad he's gone. He was a great talker and whatnot, but he was one of Dana's boys so he got fights that he didn't deserve.
ReplyDeleteTo wit: it's the only Dave-era album NOT mentioned in the Nerf Herder song "Van Halen."
ReplyDeleteWas that the same match HHH tore his quad in (for the second time, I think)?
ReplyDeleteEmma's going to jail!
ReplyDeleteNo, really. It isn't getting over. The giant pop when Dallas was told to leave and the name-calling from the crowd pretty much seals it. Even when he tries to yell "BO-LIEEEEVE", 17 people in the crowd chant along (after like 9 shows) like people at a company birthday party who half-ass their way through "Happy Birthday".
ReplyDelete"But it's working now, and lumping him in with a radically different gimmick just because he's brothers with the leader of it would be so silly."
Cody became Stardust, a radically different gimmick because he was brothers with Dustin...I'm failing to see the point.
It means write another column and see how it goes. Just don't do another fantasy booking one.
ReplyDeleteYeah, a music review is definitely a totally different thing. There are ways to do a recap that challenge you and the reader more. Not to pat myself on the back- but I guess I can, since I just criticized my last article for being so sh- but I was doing a sort of AV Club-style Raw recap for awhile last fall and people seemed to like it. It probably could've been done in a way that was more accessible for people who hadn't watched the show. But it's a way that allows you to "cover" an event but still turn it into a worthwhile writing exercise.
ReplyDeleteI've never understood the hate towards John Cena. I wonder if part of it may be jealousy of all the good work/publicity he does with kids. As the first celebrity to grant 400 wishes of terminal children (which even people who don't like him as a character might find admirable) he got a lot of publicity and with that comes jealousy on some people's parts.
ReplyDeleteBOOO! BOOOOOOO!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI'd go
ReplyDeleteVH1
VH2
Women and Children First
Fair Warning
1984 and then,
Diver Down in that order.
Although Women and Children First and Fair Warning have been known to switch places, depending on my mood.
She has. It was published a week ago.
ReplyDeleteSo because Cody did a thing, Bo- who hasn't been on the main roster for seven years like Cody has been- needs to do a similar thing? I can see why you're failing to see the point.
ReplyDeleteif you have any pointers feel free to share. My email is heyskylar00@gmail.com if so inclined. That being said...one of my favorite parts of the movie "Private Parts" about Howard Stern is where it's realized that people who say that they hate him listen longer, to see what he'll do next. Do I think I'll ever be as loved or hated as Howard Stern, heck, no, but look at us all still discussing this article the next day even though the biggest complaint listed at first was people didn't read it (but yet still felt qualified to judge it).
ReplyDeleteHa ha yeah the whole appearance is equal parts brilliant and douche chill.
ReplyDeleteorange is the new black
ReplyDeleteIn writing, I've learned that you can't fully please anyone. When I started, they wanted stars instead of letters. So, I tried that. Then I had people who wanted the grades back. Somebody even suggested using vegetable grades. I still don't know what that was about...
ReplyDeleteI don't see how you can't say it's getting over. A lot of people are booing him. They don't like him, which is EXACTLY the point of being a heel. Some people are, also, cheering him. I mean, some people say that heels aren't supposed to have any fans, which is just stupid, because there are always going to be people who like heels. Ric Flair, arguably the greatest heel ever, received a lot of cheers as a heel. Also, Kurt Angle had a few main event runs with a cheesy gimmick. So I cannot agree that it doesn't work.
ReplyDeleteIt's because he's been doing the same, cheesy thing for years. He's the only mega face in history that started getting a heel reaction and didn't turn heel, and that was eight years ago when it started. It has nothing to do with the Make-A-Wish, because even his most vehement haters will laud him for that, and most will generally understand that it's why he isn't turning heel.
ReplyDeleteI actually like Cena, myself, but the hate isn't really that hard to understand. He's always worked best as the foil to the guy we *really* want to see standing triumphantly: RVD at One Night Stand, Punk at MITB, Rock at WM28, Bryan at Summerslam. Even Triple H at WM22 and Edge throughout most of 2006 would be examples of this.
I agree with all of this, but we don't even need examples of a similar gimmick for why it could work. Because it actually is working.
ReplyDeleteDust wasn't around for a long period of time. He shows up and, then weeks later, starts tagging with Cody out of nowhere because brothers.
ReplyDeleteBut that wouldn't work for Windham/Rotundo because reasons.
Again...I'm not seeing the point.
Thing is, I am a casual fan at best, and the only fights I cared about involved Brock or Chael. So he had the PPV buys of the hardcore fans no matter what, but put Chael in there, and I might chip in with a few friends to see it too.
ReplyDeleteFor example, when it was Bones Jones vs some guy (see what I just said about being a casual?), I'm sure it was a potentially solid and even fight, but I had never heard of the other guy. Then he got injured, and rumors of Chael filling in at the last minute, suddenly, it was 2 big names that I had heard of, and I wanted to see it, even though it was a mismatch. They would have had my money.
You mean she's going to be Emmaprisoned?
ReplyDeleteMaybe she's a klepto?
ReplyDeleteAnd I don't want you to misunderstand my tone...I'm just trying to understand the logic here.
ReplyDeleteFair enough and thank you for clarifying. :)
ReplyDeleteAnother gem: He interrupts Carlito's Cabana when Carlito is boasting of interviewing HBK after his heel turn on Hogan in '05, saying Michaels is going to be on the Highlight Reel and he and Carlito snap back at each other. Fun with Jericho calling Carlito "Sideshow Bob" and "you don't tell me what's cool, I'm Canadian!"
ReplyDeleteTJ: www.youtube.com/watch?v=THD0TKFGB-U
ReplyDelete57:10
Why was I never informed about this? This is better than Summerslam.
Kurt Angle and Ric Flair got over because they had an insane amount of skill and were both great on the mic. Both were guys who, despite their outward appearance, were guys you didn't want to mess with.
ReplyDeleteDallas has grating mic skills and hasn't really proven himself past beating up jobbers week after week with a weak bulldog move off the ropes. There's no velocity.
On top of that, his "heat" is relegated to maybe a sixth of the arena who doesn't know what to make of him.
I WANT Dallas to get over. Seriously, I think he's got it in him. I just think that he's been watered down much like Adam Rose, Emma, and Paige.
I want Randy Orton to get in her face and yet "stupid, stupid, stupid".
ReplyDeleteAnd again: I can see why.
ReplyDeleteBecause I never said Bo and Bray "wouldn't work." I said it would be totally pointless right now, because what Bo is doing on his own is so clearly working. Why lump him in with a thing that doesn't need him- because it's obviously working pretty well itself right now- when he doesn't need that thing?
In six months if Bo-lieve stagnates and Bray is still doing the Family thing, yeah, do it. But right now? It's hard to articulate further why that doesn't make any sense, because it's self-evident that Bo's gimmick is working just fine. Arguing that point any further is akin to yelling at clouds.
Whether it has a shelf life or a ceiling isn't really relevant, because if he gets over enough with this it can lead to bigger and better, less gimmicky things once the audience has that amount of time invested in him as a performer. See: Punk as SES/Nexus leader, leading to Summer of Punk. See: thug life John Cena becoming top guy forever-and-ever nice guy Cena.
A true classic. Piper says Randy insisted on being right next to him the entire time for that skit.
ReplyDeleteOne here and additonally two for your blog that aren't on here (one on watching The Divas as a female fan, and one on suggested improvements for Total Divas Season Three). Kyle, if you go to Matt's other blog you can see them there if you like.
ReplyDeleteI don't blame him in this instance. Good LORD.
ReplyDeleteChael was my favorite and one of the most entertaining fighters in history. Guy talked himself into a UFC fight that did 1,000,000+ buys and no-one else can say that.
ReplyDeleteI would have been more leary of the camera man... or Gene Oakerlund.
ReplyDeleteJericho's gimmick was "King of the World"
ReplyDeleteHe failed because the UFC's drug tests are legit across the board and Chael has always been retarded about his PED use.
ReplyDeleteEven if you erase Bray and take him totally out of the picture, I bet Dallas gets a major overhaul in two to three months or, at the very least, starts to show that he's losing his shit.
ReplyDeleteI think you're deluding yourself when you say he's "over". I don't think he is. Every single time he comes out to the ring, there's a mild audience reaction with some booing and not much else.
I think, like Cena, he'll transform...but I think Dallas loses it and becomes the very thing he hates.
The difference was Howard had perfected his medium and had found a widespread platform for it. You- or any of us who write for fun on these sites- have done neither of those things, to say the least.
ReplyDeleteDon't get into whether or not people are liking it or hating it. Worry about actually becoming good. I don't mean that as an insult, because like I said earlier, in a vacuum there was some decent stuff in here that just wasn't fleshed out.
If you get popular enough that you can somehow monetize the people who "hate" you, great. But that really isn't relevant to where you're at right now.
THAT'S who it was.
ReplyDeleteLOL, Not everything I write will be fantasy booking I promise. I just wanted to branch out past the Divas recap I wrote here (and will be futher recapping) and other Divas articles I wrote for Matt's other blog.
ReplyDelete"Kurt Angle and Ric Flair got over because they had an insane amount of skill and were both great on the mic. Both were guys who, despite their outward appearance, were guys you didn't want to mess with."
ReplyDeleteI brought up Angle because you said the gimmick can't reach the next level. I didn't compare Flair to Dallas. I made a point that he's arguably the greatest heel ever, and even he got cheers.
"Dallas has grating mic skills and hasn't really proven himself past beating up jobbers week after week with a weak bulldog move off the ropes. There's no velocity."
Well, yeah, they're trying to build him up. It's usually how it works when they're launching a new wrestler that they believe has a future. I don't know, I like his promos. They're over-dramatic and cheesy in a good way. He's pretty much playing an irritating heel who thinks he's a babyface. It's clever when you think about it, because there are so many cheesy, goody-goody, happy-go-lucky wrestlers who are booed by a lot of fans - i.e Sheamus/John Cena.
The thing about TRT is that it's super easy to get a bogus prescription for it. So easy that the UFC banned it wholesale because it was impossible to tell who legit needed it and who didn't.
ReplyDeleteSo the specifics of it as it relates to the UFC are irrelevant and Sonnen should have known better since Dana made a huge deal out of it, essentially saying that if you need it, you shouldn't be fighting professionally and you wouldn't be for the UFC.
Mears hates him for the same reason Bo Dallas is irritating. ;)
ReplyDeleteGenerally speaking, I have no real hatred or like for Cena except he's been-there-done-that.
Did you expect the audience to start losing their shit and rioting the moment his music hits? "Over" is a relative term. He's been at this a month and almost the entire Raw audience hasn't watched him in NXT. They're already getting it. Like I said: it's a waste of energy to argue that specific point further, because your opinion of what's happening right now is clearly being skewed by what you think might happen in a few months, which is a weird way to formulate opinions.
ReplyDeleteWas Dennis Stamp there too?
ReplyDeleteYou sir are the winner of the internets today.
ReplyDeleteYep, and what made Elizabeth so much hotter was her "good girl" status. A woman could look exactly like her, but if she acted and dressed like a skank, it just wouldn't be as big of a deal. But Liz was a total "girl next door/saint". so any time she dressed in something hot, she was exponentially hotter.
ReplyDeleteOnes a babyface, the other is a heel. That's the concept that you are having trouble grasping.
ReplyDeletelol as above I said, "Do I think I'll ever be as loved or hated as Howard Stern, heck, no", I fully realize I'll never be in the same league with him, I'm just noting I wrote a recap that people liked or were neutral on, some comments, I write this and get more responses.
ReplyDeleteNo, but even for a heel, he should be getting an overwhelming amount of heat by now or the majority of the arena feeling something. Instead, he's like Adam Rose: he's sent out there to die each week.
ReplyDeleteIt isn't about what I think will happen in the future. I'm telling you what I'm seeing. The Bo-lieve gimmick isn't going to go anywhere except towards a shift to something else that's, most likely, radically different.
No fucking shit. Guess somebody doesn't understand emojis.
ReplyDeleteNo, I get the concept. I just like the irony. Hate Cena for being cheesy for years, which Bo Dallas should do, too...and then we end up liking him for it?
ReplyDeleteI, uh...what?
Emma was arrested for shoplifting yesterday. Not sure if the WWE cares and will keep her off the show for a bit, ignore it, or work it into the ring.
ReplyDeleteJim Duggan has a book?
ReplyDeleteRegal: "The R is for Royalty, The E is for Excellence, the G is for....."
ReplyDelete(Y2J pyro entrance interrupts)
Jericho: ".....the G is for....GOOD GODDDDD! REGAL Would you PLEEEEEASE......SHUT!!!.....The HELLLLLLL........UP!"
Vince's reaction - "What the hell is an ipod, dammit?"
ReplyDeleteHe wasn't booked.
ReplyDeleteThey should have done that with Michael Cole... they should have recreated the match frame by frame with Lawler at WM.
ReplyDeleteGiven the Harper push and Bryan injury, shouldn't the Beardmoney battle cry be "Yeah yeaaaah yeah"?
ReplyDeleteI sort of want to see WWE go full hypocrite and release her, when they didn't release Swagger and Cameron (and then lying about her employment) for DUIs.
ReplyDeleteAndre was always tight with Watts, and maybe he saw it as a chance to hit up some old colleagues. Supposedly Vince was legitimately devastated, and Andre regretted doing it.
ReplyDeleteThat's SMU college graduate Jim Duggan to you, mister.
ReplyDeleteIs the chin strap still a popular facial hair style in the Dominican? Or is it a side-effect of PED use?
ReplyDeleteI'm Kanefused.
ReplyDeleteThis leads to her joining Rose as his girlfriend in an FSM gimmick with Santino.
ReplyDeleteI picture doing that in order to confuse the cops.
ReplyDeleteSadly, how many good matches did Duggan have after the UWF? I know the Vader match was carried by him (shockingly) and he had a good match in 1999 with Berlin - in spite of him supposedly oly being there to put Alex Wright over. With all due respect, Alex Wright just was never going to be anything in wrestling. Sadly, I can't remember if his brain tumor came before or after Berlin - I think if was before.
ReplyDeleteI seriously would like to know if Duggan ever had more than two **** matches? I'm even sadder that he didn't even get the honor to job to Hogan during the nWo run. Duggan would have done that with open arms.
Frankly, it's sort of wrong that Andre's last U.S. appearance was for WCW. It's like when Favre played for the Vikings.
ReplyDelete"WHERE'S THE RING!" after he'd been lost for about twenty minutes is still hilarious.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Mascara a was good in the 1970s. He had a few good all Japan matches. But besides that, couldn't stand him.
ReplyDelete(Not verbatim) "Steph lets talk it out over dinner, I think I saw a Hooters on the way to the arena..."
ReplyDeleteI think Andre knew he was dying between 1990-1993 and liked partying with old buddies - so he decided why not. He was more or less done as a wrestler in spite of wrestling weeks before he died.
ReplyDeleteThat time HHH Pedigree'd him.
ReplyDeleteI always liked the fact that Vince called him - mask-a-rus
ReplyDeleteof course she was arrested for theft
ReplyDeleteb/c she and her bubbles did in fact steal
they stole america's heart
"who the hell is emma, dammit?"
ReplyDeleteftfy
although I think she was even more attractive during her WCW days. such a stunning woman.
ReplyDeleteGood, fuck this douchebag.
ReplyDeleteWhat exactly is this mindset that "Punk walked out, so everyone he knows is persona non grata" about?
ReplyDeleteI know it SOUNDS very pro-wrestling, but has this ever happened in the modern era?
Oh. Well, in that case, second question: Who did?
ReplyDeleteThird question, Re: Lucha - what came first, Lucha super heroes who were then used as pro wrestlers, or were lucha characters always pro wrestlers?
It happens all the time... in the persecution fantasies of sad nerds.
ReplyDeletemaybe corporal kirschner
ReplyDeleteranger ross?
wwe: we market alcohol to kids
ReplyDeleteYep. He tried to run for the Oregon House as a Republican, but got in trouble.
ReplyDeleteThe internet: we complain that everything in WWE is geared for children and then also when it isnt
ReplyDeletetggi
ReplyDeleteKinda sad, shes probably going to lose her job, all over a stolen case for an emmap3 player.
ReplyDelete...what?
ReplyDeleteWhen he was making his rise as a heel in WCW and feuding with Prince Iaukea - #1, calling him "Prince Hakamaki" and #2, claiming the scale wasn't properly calibrated at a weigh-in and calibrating it by smacking it upside Iaukea's head.
ReplyDeleteThe Iron Sheik dress as Batman has fucked my head up.
ReplyDeleteI've actually seen Fozzy live twice, and they are actually really, really good live. Jericho is born to be a frontman, and the band sounds great. And since they haven't really made it huge yet, you can literally see them 4 feet in front of your face
ReplyDeleteAll right, World Cup TJ here I guess:
ReplyDeleteThe first half can be summed up in an old Chinese "curse": "May you live in interesting times." WAY too many "interesting times" for the US defense in that first half, and the lack of possession does not bode well.
Also, losing Fabian Johnson and having to bring Yedlin on so early... ugh.
True story.
ReplyDeleteI refuse to recognize WCW Elizabeth. As far as I'm concerned, after she left Macho she went around the world building orphanages until her plane tragically went down ala Roberto Clemente.
ReplyDeleteThe Chael/Jones fight flopped on pay per view and his performance was absolutely pathetic. He just bent over and let Jones and Evans give it to him in the ass. He must have been on an up cycle against Shogun.
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ReplyDeleteI was getting very very tired of him talking shit and getting steamrolled...good riddance to bad rubbish. Maybe when clearing out the cheaters we can get rid of Vitor too.
ReplyDeleteThe Jewker eats the dog shit!
ReplyDeleteSantino goes to visit Emma in prison.....
ReplyDeleteEmma: "I felt like I had a void in my life like... like there was a secret hole in me."
Santino: "Oh God!"
Emma: "And I was trying to fill that hole with all kinds of expensive objects and things..."
Santino: "Oh Gaahhooddd!"
Emma: "And I felt wonderful with all those things fillin' that hole."
Santino: "OH GAAHAHAHHAAAD!"
Emma: "I did this to myself, so just gonna have to lay back and the penal system teach me a lesson."
Santino: "That one is also sexual."
Yedlin seems a pretty decent player, though. Can't say I've heard of him before, but he's done well....
ReplyDeleteHe's best in short bursts, where he can use his excellent speed. As for his stamina... I don't know. We'll find out, though.
ReplyDeleteAmerica trying to become the first World Cup team to have 50 shots taken against it and still win.
ReplyDeleteSadly, at this point, DUI's are pretty much equivalent to riding a bicyle without a helmet, or walking on the wrong side of the road. It's just a non-factor at this point, and nobody gets in trouble for it.
ReplyDeleteFor a long time I stayed away from Fozzy because I figured they were just a vanity project but I listened to Chasing the Grail and it was really good. Also thought Sin and Bones was good as well.
ReplyDeleteIs this the bad dancing gimmick chick? I dont watch enough weekly WWE to know who all of these single name chicks are
ReplyDeleteOr Jerry Rice playing on the Raiders.
ReplyDeleteYes, and I love her. Hope they don't release her.
ReplyDeleteMid South Duggan and WWF Duggan were like night and day in all aspects.
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