Tuesday, September 23, 2014

Evening Thread - Tuesday Edition

Tonight, on WWE Network: it's a live Main Event beginning at 8:00 PM ET, followed by a new episode of Monday Night War at 9:00 , focusing on ECW's impact on the WWF/WCW ratings battle; then at 10:00, it's an all-new Countdown, featuring the top ten greatest high flyers.

MLB winds down it's final week of the regular schedule. It's still a tight race in the AL Central as the Tigers hold a one game lead over the Royals. Detroit draws the White Sox at home, while the Royals hit Cleveland.

The fall TV schedule is starting to swing, so if you stumble upon any cool new shows, you can bring them up in this thread.

449 comments:

  1. I'm trying to use this Hola Better Internet thing to get the Fight Pass stuff that's country blocked. Anybody know any good tutorials or what country code I should be using?


    Also I hear that there's a way to get the NFL Game Day for free and see all NFL Games in HD for free on their own site with this. That sounds a little TGTBT

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  2. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    From the looks of it, WWF1987 is sticking to his guns of not showing up here anymore. Of course non will be certain until Impact rolls around tommorow.

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  3. ecw mnw is good but getting tired of black and white to cover blood....i don't care wwe has to obey are countries rules about violence. have alternate showing like u did w/ some of the attitude raws

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  4. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    I think that's only on TV that they cover blood, anything else is shown almost uncensored.

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  5. +800 for this week of NFL. 3 out of 4.

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  6. Did you listen to me for fantasy football? The players I picked had monstrous games.

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  7. I think I've asked this before, but I don't remember if I got a satisfactory answer. Is Torito a little person, or is he a kid, or is he just a short dude?

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  8. WWE trying to push the Bunny until the Bunny inevitably jobs to Cena.

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  9. nope...i turned on vod one...the black and white is there....this beyond stupid.

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  10. I did what you said (other than QB) but I still got murdered my opponent got 20+ points out of every position except defense.

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  11. Anyone else watching Agents at 9?

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  12. I'm just 3 hours away to my 18th birthday, I can go to jail soon.

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  13. The guy who plays El Torito is 4'5 according to wikipedia (I don't know where the cut off is for being a dwarf or just being short), but in Mexico, minis can be any of the 3 things you said.

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  14. ...isn't that the wrong thing to be looking forward to?

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  15. You could have went to jail a long time ago.

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  16. Fucking bawitdaba. Does anyone in the world other than Kevin Dunn ever want to hear that again?

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  17. Well, he lives in Brazil. The difference between being out of prison and in prison aren't much different.

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  18. The black-and-white thing is a rule? I thought it was just their preference.

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  19. I wouldn't, I would've been judged as a minor.

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  20. Thank you. Not to be, um...heightist, but he seems like he has more agility than most "little people" that you typically see, so I was curious.

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  21. There are loopholes in the system. 13 year olds have been charged as an adult.

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  22. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    I guess it's a rule then.

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  23. Somebody gonna get they statement read!

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  24. some countries don't like graphic violence

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  25. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    Like, killing someone for example.

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  26. Also happy birthday. Make sure you girl gives you a nice birthday blow job.

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  27. Not on my system.

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  28. I think you can get in trouble for saying that to a 17 year old, 'lax.

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  29. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Henry telling the fans to shove it once again. I don't like babyface Mizark.

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  30. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Happy birthday man, and your first present could be becoming #10 in the top 18.

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  31. Yep. In the advert for WWE2K15.

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  32. He's not American therefore he is barely human and laws don't apply to him.

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  33. No I meant he might want to hear it

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  34. Hey man. I'm half-Brazilian, so half of me takes offense to that.

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  35. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    And here comes Big Show to be the babyface in this turn.

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  36. Why would they waste Henry's heel turn on this show?

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  37. The age of consent in Brazil is 14, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, with a judicial precedent showing that a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 12 and 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are 5 years older or less is legal, although not constitutionally formalized.



    Wow.....

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  38. Bottom. Silky smooth and hairless.

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  39. http://www.thebraziltimes.com/story/1630532.html

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  40. I wouldn't even go higher than 50/50 with him these days.

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  41. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    Several counties seem to be like that.

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  42. @thebraziliankid send your girl this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYMxOzxKYYo

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  43. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    Brazil is fucked up. Sorry, Braziliankid. No offense.

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  44. CruelConnectionNumber2September 23, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    Has there even been a good WWE game with actual good controls since... Day of Reckoning 2 Gamecube? The controls for WWE '14 blew and SmackDown vs Raw controls sucked, too.

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  45. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    I thought that All Stars had decent controls.

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  46. Marvel whore checking in

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  47. "Mount Your Friends" for XBOX Indies.

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  48. Adam "Colorado" CurrySeptember 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    I think the laws in Canada are like that.

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  49. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    You gotta watch New Legacy Inc play that, they put in so many wrestling mods, it's insane.

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  50. Heh, that's awesome, I'll check it out.

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  51. ...why are we getting the still photo treatment from Night of Champions on the Newtwork?

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  52. In the countdown show (and really who wouldn't want to pay for countdown shows) Joey Styles mentions that he named RVD's splash "The Five Star Frog Splash" as a dig at a dirt sheet writer. Which guy is he talking about? I've never read any one that ever charged money.

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  53. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Because, like WWE giving Hogan a 9.99 cake on the Network only, their logic is whacked.

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  54. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Still taunting the silly bastards that paid $54.95.

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  55. In which countries is that the rule? I'm just thinking about all the red blood on network TV shows like Scandal, Law & Order, etc.

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  56. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    Be forewarned, one guy likes Eva Marie a lot.

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  57. Ryback made me laugh.

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  58. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    On the network........stupid.

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  59. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    The big guy?

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  60. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    Yeah, even if they subscribed after the show, they still got to see it on demand.


    This company does some really retarded things.

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  61. I've been watching WWF 1998 Raws. The roster isn't even close as good in the ring as it is today, but everyone then had tons of motivation and were hungry as hell. These wrestlers, in comparison to then, look like they are going through the motions.

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  62. Real answer? No one in the world tries any harder than the bare minimum to keep their job.

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  63. Where are these Raws at

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  64. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Competition does things to people.


    Now? Well......obviously....

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  65. Adam "Colorado" CurrySeptember 23, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Wasn't it Caliber that loves Kid Rock?

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  66. Some website that puts them up for free.

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  67. No, Meekin.


    Caliber loves Blink-182

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  68. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    Which website?

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  69. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    This is why we can't have nice things.

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  70. This conversation is depressing as hell

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  71. Adam "Colorado" CurrySeptember 23, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    They both suck.

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  72. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    Crap, yeah, could have blown his cover.

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  73. I don't mind the controls. I thought they were simple. I don't want to remember combinations of buttons. Then again, I mostly just do running attacks and jumping off the ropes.

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  74. Billy Gunn is more interesting than anyone in WWE's midcard, and that's saying something.

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  75. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    Which is why I don't play FPWR or any old WCW games a lot.

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  76. What about Dean Ambrose?

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  77. I think the problem isn't the PG rating, it's that most of the card has nothing to do and nothing's written for them. Like, say you're, I dunno, Ceasaro. You know you're just going to be trading wins and losses with most of the roster for at least the next 3 months and you're not going to have any storylines. Also, the wrestlers in 98 didn't have promos written for them, so they had to go out and live and die by their own talents.

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  78. That would be just about any of them. Keller and Meltzer, most notably. My guess, however, would be Meltzer as I would imagine he wasn't much of a fan of the ECW garbage brawls or someone like RVD's lack of psychology and transitions in his matches.

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  79. The fall TV schedule is starting to swing, so if you stumble upon any cool new shows, you can bring them up in this thread.

    It's not new but I'm hella-pissed that I forgot The Good Wife was back on Sunday. Love dat show. frfr

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  80. Isn't "bawitdaba" the sound his moobs make when he's walking?

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  81. He's upper-midcard.

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  82. Fucking CBS football already messed up my recording of Madame Secretary

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  83. Yeah, this was happening before the PG rating. In 2005, Stephanie McMahon once told the writers to stop writing stuff for the mid card and just focus on the main event.

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  84. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    I would guess Middle East, maybe in Europe as well.

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  85. the overrun is bull man

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  86. I recorded Scorpion and Gotham last night. Any word on if those shows are good?

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  87. It'd be easier to DVR if I only watched Good Wife but Madame Secretary throws everything in disarray .

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  88. Adam "Colorado" CurrySeptember 23, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    Most European countries are a lot less restrictive about that sort of thing.

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  89. Scorpion got negative reviews.

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  90. Didn't like Gotham, too much crammed into pilot

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  91. I'd be willing to bet there's going to be all of one or two new shows this year that are successful. Most of the time, these teasers for shows gets you intrigued. This year, they're repulsive and have extremely lame premises. Maybe Flash or Scorpion could build cult followings.

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  92. I get kind of annoyed because they just have to show 60 minutes in its entirety. Would anyone care if they only showed it til the top of the hour?

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  93. Yes. It's a cash cow for CBS

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  94. 60 mins is like a franchise for them.

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  95. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    Would you think it would have worked better on Netflix due to how they won't have to worry about how a pilot is done?

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  96. This was the company that gave Kid Rock a 20 minute set at Wrestlemania 25.

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  97. No, since FOX pretty much ordered Gotham straight to series

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  98. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    Then they shouldn't have crammed in so much then.

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  99. That's what pilots do.

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  100. Eh, I think it's the creative force behind it more than anything, they didn't need to establish ALL the players, assuming not everyone will have much to do season 1 and they'll just be fringe people until they're personas are born. (Like Riddler in it)

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  101. He's turning?

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  102. that's why I hate to watch new shows. Kind of backwards thinking but I don't want to invest in something til I know it's going to make it.

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  103. think it's sometime this week.

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  104. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Only because they are trying to grab the networks attention. But if it was a full blown series, they should have spaced it out.

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  105. I was actually excited when they were pushing it as a Gordon/Gotham procedural, haven't really been keen on Young Batman and Friends take

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  106. someone on the wwe network facebook page said that canada does not show graphic violence between 6am to 9pm. austria is restricted towards violence and uk might be also.

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  107. After that loss, Bo Dallas is as dead as the Wyatts.

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  108. No, that's what pilots do, since they need to hook people for Week 2. Most pilots, especially comedies, are usually not that great.

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  109. Watching Gotham right now. I am happy with it so far. As long as you are not looking for a Batman show and accept that it is kind of an elseworlds tale it is quite good.

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  110. Should have known. It is the network of older Americans. Seriously, showing the whole thing just screws up the rest of the night. Then I'm having to math to figure out what time my show comes on

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  111. Finally! We get the Kingston-Dallas match that we robbed of (thanks Kane!) on Payback.

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  112. Check the facebooks and twitters of the respective shows.

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  113. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    They must really have something against IRS's kids.

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  114. the previews have not looked promising. I usually watch out of some weird obligation so I'll probably check it out

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  115. That said, I don't like how networks are so quick to pull the plug on shows. They don't even give them time to build an audience. I know the premium channels operate on a different model, but I look at a show like "The Wire" that drew low ratings for years before suddenly EVERYBODY was into it. The networks cancelling shows after 3-4 episodes only makes it worse for their next show, because we've been trained not to get attached to anything.

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  116. Yes, lots of exposition and unnatural revealing of all the silly quirks characters have...possibly a life changing event, too, that explains why these 4-7 characters are going to be stuck with each other for the next five years.

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  117. Daniel Bryan's last appearance on WWE TV was that lame comedy bit with Bo Dallas before whichever throwaway Z-show pre-show he appeared on.

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  118. If Flash is half as good as Arrow it will be just fine.

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  119. Extant1979 - Ghetto SuperstarSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    I'm hoping Gotham gets better next week. As it is, there were too many unnecessary nods to the Batman Universe last night, and I feel like it distracted from the overall storytelling.

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  120. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    Gonna have to watch that later.

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  121. Yes, the same obligation that had me DVR'ing Arsenio every night for the first month or so of his comeback...

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  122. They desperately need him.

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  123. If a show is tanking and bringing down your schedule or costing you advertising dollars, what are you going to do?


    HBO has a totally different business model

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  124. don't make me work for it. Just air it at 10. I always end up having to watch the Amazing Race waiting on it and I can't stand that show.

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  125. Didn't Dallas already go through Kofi on his first tour of minority jobbers?

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  126. You get Roman reigns, and you will like it.


    -Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn.

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  127. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:42 PM

    Money in the Bank? The new big 4 PPV?

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  128. I was pulling for him too but he.....let's not talk about it. It's too painful.

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  129. I enjoyed it quite a bit and accept the Batman references are there to make people feel comfortable.


    Oh and Gordon's fiance is pretty.

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  130. I don't think 2-3 weeks is even enough time to qualify as tanking.

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  131. I have no idea. It all runs together after a while.

    And while I'm on the subject, if I'm booking that....after Kane turns
    Kofi into a blob of pudding, Bo Dallas should have had the ref start the
    match and gotten the quick three count, and then celebrate as if it was
    a hard fought victory and told Kofi that, he too, can Bo-lieve.

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  132. Teased it. He cut a bitter promo about how fans don't get behind people who try their hardest if they don't win, then Big Show came out to calm him down.

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  133. Seinfeld reruns were getting better ratings in the tri-state area lol


    I tuned in to a few episodes, I couldn't really understand what he was doing, it appeared he made absolutely no updates to the show from '94 it was so strange.

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  134. Daniel Bryan doesn't need to beat Lesnar at WM 31, though. As long as he has a big match at the show, he'll be fine.

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  135. So, uh, I got an e-mail from Steve Austin today. Should I start a wrestling review column, troll my audience, freak out, meltdown, and then post the e-mail here as my last ditch attempt to justify my wrestling savvy?

    Was that a veiled or thinly veiled jab? Not sure. Anyway, it was pretty damn cool seeing an e-mail from good ol Stone Cold in the inbox today.

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  136. He would just pull his old friends out of mothballs and go "you remember that time?" He did this every time I watched.

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  137. I don't even think Rumble qualifies as a Big 4 PPV anymore.

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  138. I genuinely can't remember what show it was. I think it was MITB, but there was another one between that and Summerslam.

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  139. Extant1979 - Ghetto SuperstarSeptember 23, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    But some of the references only hardcores would get, and they kind of took me out of the show. Allen and Montoya? Should be closer to Bruce Wayne's age, if not younger. Little shit like that just annoyed me as a comics fan, because it was a throw-in that they didn't need to do.


    It's complete nit-picking, I know, and I'm not giving up on the show, but it made it a little hard to get in to the show.


    And yes, Gordon's fiancee was easy on the eyes.

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  140. Dear Stone Cold, my wife is being a bitch. What should I do?


    Stone Cold: Stomp a mudhole into that bitch and walk it dry.

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  141. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    For the first part, yes do that, fantastic idea.

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  142. Ah well yeah if you are one of those people that wants everything to be consistent with the source material you are going to be unhappy with something like this. I am not saying that is wrong or whatever mind you. I try to look at movies/tv shows based on printed material to be alternate universes for this very reason.

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  143. Did he want your account details so he could let his lottery winnings rest in there for a few days and he'd reward you with 10% of them?

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  144. Speaking of painful, some of his monologues...

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  145. I'm in agreement with the fans here. Fandom is earned through production. He isn't producing so no fandom.

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  146. I think people in NY almost had a stroke about losing Seinfeld.

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  147. Happy Birthday!

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  148. Abeyance: "That is kind of like what Meekin did with Roger Ebert"

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  149. I was thinking maybe he'd get picked up by BET or Centric or something, but they may not want to spend as much as it costs to put on a decent late-night show.

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  150. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    I'm kind of sad I didn't think of that now.

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  151. Nah. I just told him how much I appreciated his account of the details of his day with Ned the Lochness monster (and if you don't listen to his podcast, I may have already lost you). And he seemed to get a kick out of that.

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  152. That's what I thought. I think people are looking for excuses to hate it.

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  153. Yes! I thought the same thing during that PPV.

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  154. He was getting a lot of heel heat for it. It was kind of like Foley's "I gave you Cactus Jack" promo from 98.

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  155. Watching Gotham now. I demand to be entertained!

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  156. Ambrose's facial expressions were great there.

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  157. I do listen to his podcast, but with so many podcasts around now the ones he does without guests get put on the back burner, so I haven't heard that one yet.

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  158. Oh man, thanks to Dean Ambrose I'll now call sheep "wool bumblies" from this day forth.

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  159. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:54 PM

    I have a feeling that that's going to be the new go to catchphrase for Ambrose. "That was pretty cool."

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  160. BET wouldn't be the best place. Monique, John Salley, Michael Collier, etc didn't get much support. it's a graveyard.

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  161. Wait until he returns to defend Brie Mode's honor.

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  162. Thoughts on Ambrose's finisher being named Dirty Deeds? I'm not really feeling it.

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  163. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM

    I view it more as an inside joke.

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  164. He looks like he doesn't bathe.

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  165. Of the few internet ads I see, it's always about that horrible 'Black-ish' crap. TV is so terrible today.

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  166. Yeah, he got on quite the role in last Thursday's episode. But like you said, he was by himself for that one. However, it's a 100 times better than the Nash/uberfacts podcast from a week ago.

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  167. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:56 PM

    He and Harper should have a wife beater vs wife beater match. Loser loses the wife beater.

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  168. Larry Fishburne has the worst one-liners. How hard-up is he for work? One would think he'd have enough clout to get better roles.

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  169. Most of these finisher names suck ass. Until Vince does a 180 on his philosophy (which isn't out of the question) or dies (which IS out of the question), these names are going to be bad puns and gimmick related phrases.

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  170. Mania
    SummerSlam
    Rumble
    Money in the Bank

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  171. It's better than "skull crushing finale"

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  172. The Steiner's should be in charge of naming moves. They had kick-ass names for everything.

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  173. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    Too bad Goldust has this already, but that finisher could have been called the final cut.

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  174. I'll inform you of my opiniom in an hour. It's Batman so I can't imagine hating it.

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  175. It is a good catalyst for a turn though there isn't really anyone to feud with

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  176. didn't Big Show have a moved called the final cut?

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  177. Andy PG desperately finds positive things on Raw and Matt just rips apart Main Event. Only on the blog!

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  178. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Time to check that out.

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  179. Either the pay is really good, or he's in cruise control.

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  180. Loser has to put the winner's wife beater in his mouth.

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  181. I see he's getting executive producer credit also so it's probably both.

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  182. Worst name for a finishing move in WWE or TNA?

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  183. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Pale Justice, Sheamus.

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  184. it's not the worst but F5 could use some rebranding. I wasn't watching during his debut so I don't know the logic behind it.

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  185. So Agents of SHIELD...

    I think that's Absorbing Man...

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  186. He was damn good in Hannibal. As one of the 7 people who watch that show, I can vouch for that.

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  187. Old tornado damage scale: F5=Total Destruction.

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  188. Skull crushing Finale

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  189. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 23, 2014 at 7:14 PM

    What of you think of that Agent Carter show appearing next year?

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  190. Strong opening segment.

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  191. I love Ziggler but the Zigzag is kinda lame.

    Bodog sucks too.

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