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An WWE Network Original?

Why isn't the WWE doing more original programming for the Network? They own WWE Studios!

Sure, they'd probably be terrible at it.  But at the very least, shouldn't all of the movies be available on it?  They could even be hyping "Special Network Premieres" for all the upcoming movies. Heck, they might even luck into creating their own "Orange is the New Black", or "Walking Dead", and get more casual fans ordering subscriptions.

Here's a few show ideas they can have:
  • The Marine, The Series (Hell take any movie they've done and add "The Series" to it)
  • Tag Team: Remake the Roddy Piper / Jessie Ventura cop show
  • Welcome to Parts, Unknown: Northern Exposure meets sports enterainment. A young doctor (or lawyer) takes a job in the small town of Parts Unknown with its eclectic cast of masked and face painted residents.
  • 4th and Take Down: A football comedy about a fictionalized West Texas A&M with players based on the actual wrestlers who went to that school (Dusty Rhodes, Tully Blanchard, Tito Santana, Terry Funk, Stan Hansen, Ted Dibiase).
  • Celebrity Tough Enough
  • Learning the Ropes: The New Class
Bonus movie
  • Space Slam: Space Jam - Michael Jordan + John Cena in an 8-man tag match with Bugs, Daffy and the Tasmanian Devil vs Aliens = ALL THE MONEY
Any pitches for shows you'd like to see on the Network?

Mike

Hmm, Orange Is The New Black with the Divas.  Might have something there.

They actually had a list of wacky show ideas they were developing a couple of months ago, before the bottom fell out of the Network, and about the most interesting idea they had was Steve Blackman working as a bounty hunter.  I would watch the shit out of that.  

Definitely the WWE Studios garbage should be on there, just to fill out content if nothing else.  They keep replaying the same fucking 8 hours of live stream over and over!  Stick See No Evil or Chaperone 3: Still Chaperonin' in there to fill two hours, maybe.  I'd sit through Marine 2 for free, for example.  I usually keep enough booze around the house for that.  

What I legitimately WOULD like them see develop into a show is of course Are You Serious, complete with Puppet H.  There should be enough YouTube episodes in the can that they can even edit them into 2 or 3 half hour shows to start and buy time to make new ones.  

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  1. I would renew my network subscription for years if they renewed Are You Serious. Need to find someone like Josh Matthews to host, though. He was great in that role.

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  2. Given their inability to add content that's already made, I don't think I'd hold my breath waiting for actual new stuff.

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  3. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 22, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    The Chaperone 2: Electric Boogaloo-uh

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  4. Wait, that Steve Blackman show was going to be a thing?


    Remember when he made that random cameo on Raw and flips out?

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  5. Are you Serious would be great!! It is the perfect use of the archives.


    Even run the JBL/Cole show in between shows of the stream.


    More legends Roundtables would be nice.


    How about just 30 min specials highlighting mid card stars. You can do a few days of sit down interviews and just cut together some archive footage and you can highlight guys like Tito Santana, Greg Valentine, Bobby Eaton, Chris Adams, etc. and use that to promote the old-school shows and pay per views.

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  6. I agree on the Legends Roundtables. I enjoyed all of them.

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  7. I'm still waiting for the complete XFL 2001 season.

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  8. The Chaperone 2: Chaperoner

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  9. I didn't think of Celebrity Tough Enough (which is fantastic), but I've been saying for a while that a reality show where a bunch of "Wrestling is easy, anybody could do it" haters had to survive wrestling school would be great.

    Hell, Kurt Angle would be PERFECT as host.

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  10. Sounds like no one is signing up for this. They actually literally laughed at the WWE network on CNBC last night. A hedge fund guy came out and said independent market research shows sub growth as slowed down even more and that most people who have it dont like it and aren't keeping it.

    The last thing they should do is waste money on horrible original programming that will not bring in or keep one subscriber and will add to the negative second rate stigma it has.

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  11. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©October 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    Reminds me of that South Park episode.
    "We're going to see Zoo Keeper 2: Zoo Keepier.

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  12. The soundtrack should be all Motorhead songs.

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  13. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 22, 2014 at 1:18 PM

    On a related note...good to see Ariel Winter lost some weight. She was in to "DJ Tanner, late in the full house run " territory for awhile there.

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  14. This is probably wildly inappropriate since she's like 16, but am I the only one who noticed her boobs are completely out of control?

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  15. This is the pilot preview of Blackman's show. It was not necessarily made for the network:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nes9kwlB2dk

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  16. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    See....I wasn't gonna go there but you picked the ball right up on that one.

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  17. Given that her family life seems to be kind of a mess too, a better comparison for her career might be Stephanie Tanner.

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  18. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 22, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    You know...Alex Dumphy on meth could make for an interesting story arc.

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  19. It was a pilot he put together himself and reached out to many networks, including wwe

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  20. Given that their family seems to have infinite wealth despite no one having to work more than 10 hours a week, she would certainly have no trouble procuring hard drugs for an extended length of time.

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  21. Yeah, I re-upped my subscription last week, and at this moment I'm not really sure why. There's nothing I currently want to see. I'm definitely not watching $9.99 worth of it. I've turned it on for a total of 15 minutes since the re-up. It's kind of "meh" at this point, at least to me.

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  22. I think Jesse James and the clips made the show. And puppet h

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  23. The Chappening, Shirley?

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  24. And we can listen to Michael Hayes talk about how great and influential he is on each one too.

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  25. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 22, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    I see it playing out like a modern, darker, Jesse Spanno story line...Alex takes meth to stay up and study and overachieve, (as she tends to do) and it ends her being...well... so excited...and yet so scared.

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  26. The only thing I want to see is basically free, Road Stories.


    I've done the math, there's almost 4 billion students in the tri-state area looking for video production and editing internships. Grab some of those kids, make them follow guys around, free content.

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  27. I've mentioned this before but I still believe the Network should have a show where Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, and Matt Hardy drink heavily and give callers relationship advice.

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  28. CruelConnectionNumber2October 22, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    They should introduce a Barney the Dinosaur character to babysit kids as they watch Raw, this show would really reach their desired demographic.

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  29. Because they hire people to run the network who don't fucking care.

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  30. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    No Jake the Snake?

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  31. I would absolutely watch a show about a fictionalized West Texas A&M.

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  32. "Tag Team: Remake the Roddy Piper / Jessie Ventura cop show
    Welcome to Parts, Unknown: Northern Exposure meets sports enterainment. A young doctor (or lawyer) takes a job in the small town of Parts Unknown with its eclectic cast of masked and face painted residents"

    YES! YES! YES! YES!

    Celebrity Tough Enough was done witn Celebrity Championship Wrestling, and Biscoff said is was very expensive to produce.

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  33. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 22, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    He can have the beer but the whiskey is mine.

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  34. You need rotating guests to keep the show fresh, but Jake is in a good place right now and wouldn't fit the vibe I'm going for. I'm picturing Matt yelling at the camera while crying and burning a picture of Lita, while Ric tells Hulk to bust himself open before the cops show up.

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  35. A Tony Garea biography containing all his greatest matches and interviews would be an awesome mini series th

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  36. You need a good strait man

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  37. Something happened in the past calendar year that made them back off their plans for reality programming. Their annual report stated that original and reality programming would be a component of the Network. The list of shows they rolled out earlier in the year made it look like the Network would be the wrestling version of TLC. They must've received some pretty terrible feedback and realized that nobody was going to buy a subscription to see shitty reality shows.



    I know they brand themselves as an "integrated media and entertainment" company, but they are really a wrestling company with wrestling fans. They need to figure out what they want.

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  38. I'm perfectly fine with none of these suggestions ever seeing a second of airtime on the Network. I have Netflix and HBO Go to watch crappy movies. I don't need WWE Network for that.

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  39. I don't see how adding WWE Studios content would get new subscribers OR make the existing subscribers more likely to stay. So why bother? If anything, it would result in fewer DVD sales for WWE Studios (although they probably don't sell a lot anyway).

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  40. John Avery and my Chicago Enforcers FTW!

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  41. Lol. Good being the key word

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  42. Yeah, I want out of my subsrciption ASAP. I've already watched everything and the current product is just putrid. I would rather spend my time watching new sports.

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  43. I'm really curious to see how Jim Ross does calling football. I always thought NFL should give him shot.

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  44. Still remember when they showed this insane Fabulous Ones video of them oiled up working out in a gym in just speedos and Matthews, Dogg and Puppet H just exchange open mouthed "What the HELL?!" looks.

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  45. Always loved their running list of "Things WCW ruined."

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  46. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 22, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    I'm waiting for the Network to show the IC tournament in Rio De Janerio and Bret Harts legendary match with the Shreiking Sheik

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  47. Not gonna lie, I would watch the shit out of Celebrity Tough Enough. I watched that god-awful Hogan celebrity wrestling show, there's no way it could be any worse than that. Steve Blackman: Lethal Bail Enforcement Agent also sounds pretty awesome. I kinda miss Steve Blackman.

    Make Knucklehead a full series, that would mean Big Show would have to be gone for prolonged periods of time. Make him an old school kiddie show host if you want, I don't care.

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  48. Big Show. I just made a similar suggestion above, Knucklehead as a kids showso he don't have to see him wrestle but your idea to put him in a giant dumbass costume is even better - stop him from wrestling AND! humiliate him! Muahahaha! (drums fingers together)

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  49. Dang, I hoped he was gonna be in his wrestling attire with the kendo sticks...

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  50. And with that list, you've displayed 1000% more creativity than the people running the damn thing.

    I'd totally watch a bunch of insane 70's and 80's wrestling expy's playing football.

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  51. Biff Kensington IIIOctober 22, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    Legend's House was a pleasant surprise, but that's more because I care about some of the legends on that show. A Divas reality show (proof enough from Total Divas) or something involving today's "superstars" would be absolutely terrible.

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  52. AverageJoeEverymanOctober 22, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    yeah she's getting to Kat Dennings territory

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  53. Biff Kensington IIIOctober 22, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    The Goulet Army will supplant this heathen Garea worship around here, by golly.

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  54. Triple H battles the terror of chapped lips.

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  55. Biff Kensington IIIOctober 22, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    The wrestling pedigree of that school is astounding.

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  56. AverageJoeEverymanOctober 22, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Kevin Nash says -
    "Look at the adverb . . . strait!"

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  57. That would be great if it were up there just for crazy completists, but I'm betting if they never have to show stuff from/talk about the XFL they never will.

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  58. I think I pitched on the blog once before about WWE doing a movie of the week. There's the WWE Studios movies, but they could also get other movies that wrestlers were in. I'd watch "Ready To Rumble" if they brought in DDP, Sting & David Arquette to bag on how shitty it was! I suppose cost is the major hurdle, with movies being tied up by Netflix, HBO, Starz, TBS or whoever. But for a one-time showing on the live feed, who knows if that would be cost prohibitive or not? Imagine "Predator" or "Running Man" hosted by Jesse Ventura, or Hogan hosting "No Holds Barred". Also they have their relationship with SyFy, why not show a movie like "Sharknado" a week or so after they debut? Have Renee Young host, a few WWE stars as part of a watching party, hashtag the shit out of it.

    Yeah, I know, it'd cost money. Seems to me they could figure out something though. Just a matter of working out the details.

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  59. Welcome to Parts, Unknown produced by David Lynch would be amazing.

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  60. I know. Call me crazy but I bought it to watch wrestling. I do weird shit though.

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  61. I always thought that Parts Unknown would be like that crazy movie "Doomsday".

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  62. With your comments about what's happening on CNBC on this and the other thread, and Scott's remark about the bottom falling out of the network, do you think it's really going down? Like it's this years XFL or WWF Restaurant?

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  63. Haha I was thinking if writing something like that but felt bad about it

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  64. Michael Hayes should be the new Madea.

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  65. I so want Steve Blackman: Bounty Hunter. Who doesn't love Steve Blackman.

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  66. They should do something to reignite kayfabe, maybe shoot some of these on 35mm film, like they do in the NFL.

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  67. "DID YOU KNOW?: CNBC's ratings suck compared to Fox Business! Just saying!"

    I have no idea if that's true or not.

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  68. NOTE: Never invite Ric Flair.

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  69. They should get a handful of former wrestlers together and stick them in a house and have them do wacky stuff. I bet that would be really interesting and provide some insight into their personalities.



    Heck, I'd even recap it.

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  70. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©October 22, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Heck, Just put Barney the Dino on there, it's not like he's doing anything.

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  71. Rougeaus Tonight! ROUGEAUS TONIGHT!!!

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  72. (this is a nightly talk show starring Jacques and Raymond Rougeau with bandleader Jimmy Hart)

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  73. There was a Roddy Piper/Jesse Ventura cop show?!

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  74. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©October 22, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Never knew that.

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  75. They're not going to commit to any major content like this until they get over a million or more subscribers. And they're not going to get those until they commit to major content. So yeah. Fucked probably.

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  76. intestinal fortitudeOctober 22, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    The only episodes I didn't get through were the ones Flair was on - made me sad, as most of his appearances do now

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  77. Yeah, I think it was called Fox Force Five or something like that.

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  78. It really doesn't look. It might take a year or two but if they start actually dropping subs under the 700k baseline the network is done for. Right now they have basically killed their #2 revenue stream for a venture that 8 months in is looking worse, and Vince can't bullshit investors because these mega funds have dead on market research systems and MTI dudes making algorithms that can predict that stuff way out into the future. I think the top people at the wwe badly misread their audience size and interest level.

    Also a company like Netflix or any movie studio has way more options if something goes wrong. The wwe sells wrestling. From what I'm reading/hearing and seeing with my own eyes its possible Ott won't work with such a limited niche.

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  79. Unfortunately they hired Tammy Sytch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfb44tRcnO8

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  80. CNBC is definitely the #1 network to put on for your dog when you leave the house or to play in a lobby as inoffensive background noise.

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  81. A great lead-in to Rougeaus Tonight would be to just wholesale rip off Austin's idea of doing a Wrestler's Cut of a match. Sit some of the old-timers in (not Ricky Steamboat. Fuck kayfab) in the studio and have them explain what was going on. If we could get Magnum and Tully or Bret and Shawn.

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  82. A succesful real estate agent in the area they live in can make big money. Sell a couple of houses and you pull in 6 figures of commission. this is California real estate in a upscale community. As for Winters, she is goingto be like Punky Brewster. Needing a reduction within a couple years.

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  83. the bottom line is that they need to make the IC belt more prestigious in order to ensure the company's survival.

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  84. Definitely a chicken or the egg argument. To attract people they need content. But they won't put up content unless they are sure it will get more subscribers. IMO what would attract subscribers (other than a Attitude era, Rock and Wrestling style revival) would be a menu of programming. That means celebrity tough enough, wrestlers dishing on their matches, Blackman being a bounty hunter, a backstage show on current WWE, maybe some movies, etc. Right now you offer two things: ppvs and classic ppvs.. Sure you've got main event or NxT but I believe that is available on the website even without a subscription. Cheaper ppvs is a selling point and classic content for us wrestling nerds is a selling point. But with a full menu of programming they might be able to move the needle. But, as I said with the chicken or the egg, that won't happen until they see more subscribers to justify the cost. At this point I'm wondering if they might not sell the service to someone who will fold it into a larger streaming service. NBC/Comcast? They do have the relationship with Raw on USA. Maybe a content provider like WB that doesn't have a streaming service but might be looking to put their library up (Movies, Friends, etc.) and have the WWE as an added enticement. They do have a distribution agreement for WWE movies.

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  85. Why spend money on developing new programs that you'll just shit all over when they have thousands of hours of ready made programming for you to enjoy and shit on? They aren't Netflix, they literally have no competition and no need to make new programs to draw viewers in.

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  86. that has to be the keystone of any improvements they try to make

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  87. Also, does the "MTI" dudes' algorithm predict when Punk comes back?

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  88. Actually, they do have a need to draw viewers in. Strong take, though, jackass.

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  89. You want to solve the issues with the network not gaining enough subscribers?


    It's quite simple, No Holds Barred Football with the losing team being executed by a firing squad.

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  90. How's about we worry about getting the wrestling up first?

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  91. No they don't. They have ZERO need to spend 100k plus on making new programming for their finite audience when they have thousands of hours of programming they could freely put up at any time. Nice try though

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  92. How does this approach attract new subscribers?

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  93. neither new programming or old wrestling programming will bring in new viewers. You're both wrong. The product is ice cold right now. There just aren't enough eyes on it. The hotter the current product is the more buys your network will have.

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  94. Speed Force.

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  95. Theberzerker! HUSS!October 22, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    As much as I love it sometimes, the WWE Network is like the WBF, the XFL, his idea in '96 to have Piper vs. OJ Simpson at Wrestlemania XII, his idea in '02-'03 to have an incest storyline with Steph, and Katie Vick...anytime, ANY TIME Vince really, really wants to do something, he will do it wrong. So very wrong.

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  96. This isn't what I said. I said they do have a need to draw new viewers in. It's probably the most obvious statement ever made about a product they invested in millions and millions of dollars in.

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  97. I'd love to see them do the Dirt Sheet, but most of the people they talked about (Festus, Cryme Tyme, and Morrison himself) don't work there anymore.

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  98. That was the pilot of a nascent BET sitcom starring Ernie Ladd and Thunderbolt Patterson.

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  99. Even a cheap documentary like Storm Wrestling Academy would be cool. I'd prefer to have wrestling, but if they're intent on not giving me that I want something fun.

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  100. Going back to the chicken and the egg, WWE might consider that if they do advertise in places that former fans might be watching (UFC, boxing, whatever demographics work), seeing adds for the network might gain some subscribers. They may come for the attitude era content but they may try the new product as well. It seems reversed to use the network to draw eyes to Raw rather than vice versa, but one hope for WWE to become more popular again is to draw back the lapsed fan. The problem with this strategy (in addition to costing $$$ that Vince seems reticent to spend) is that it would require a quality product to be on Raw and probably an edgier product. It's thinking a bit outside of the box, but what other options do they have? Hope that Cena catches fire and suddenly becomes the next Austin or Hogan or see the Network go down in flames and the ppv model destroyed so the company has to downsize somewhat (less contracted talent, cheaper production, lower salaries for all). The company can survive just on the TV deal, house shows, and merchandising but it isn't ideal and you might see an exodus of talent when their checks are cut in half.

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  101. wait....wait.....wait... Was he seriously considering O.J. for Mania?

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  102. Theberzerker! HUSS!October 22, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    According to several people on the Piper DVD. Not total proof of course but certainly believable.

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  103. seriously hyped for Still Chaperonin'

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  104. Theberzerker! HUSS!October 22, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    Time to chaperone...TIME TO CHAPEROOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!

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  105. Theberzerker! HUSS!October 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    Or just No Holds Barred. I'd watch it 10x a day every day. D-D-D-D-DOOKIE???

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  106. Stay with me here. What if O.J. resigned himself to playing full-blown heel? People would get all pissed off and they'd get tons of bad press but they'd also get buys right? Who wouldn't want to see O.J. "finally get his"?

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  107. Virgil's Gimmick TableOctober 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM

    Vince of course.

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  108. Joined alongside 'Heat Vision and Jack", and that one about a ghost possessing Truckasaurus in the bin of tragically short-sighted TV cancellations.

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  109. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 22, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    Seriously, just keep the YouTube shows going on the Network and give them a full 30-60 minutes. AND BRING BACK PUPPET H GODDAMMIT

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  110. Bob Holly better be a guest trainer, at least,

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  111. What if Puppet H was the star of Charperone?

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  112. That'd put a lot of butts in seats.

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  113. Where will the talent go, if they leave on there own. Half of what they are making now is still more than they'd make elsewhere. They're not TNA

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  114. It's sad their YouTube channel had more creativity than their Network. Of course, this company is afraid to do anything as evidenced by them pulling that creative cartoon that everyone liked because they received a handful of complaints about it.

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  115. So wait... bignasty may have been right about this?

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  116. They've hit the wall as far as attracting subscribers with the archive content. There's no data to suggest a vast swathe of fans waiting for them to add Tuesday Night Titans, WCW Saturday Night or AWA All Star Wrestling. They need to add more subscribers to be profitable, and to continue to add them on a regular basis. That means new content. They also need to build brand awareness and have technology on their side, both of which take time.

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  117. That would be the best seventeen minutes ever.

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  118. what were the complaints about?

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  119. That's the problem though: There weren't enough if us. They only convinced about a quarter of the RAW audience to spend money on the product, offering a ridiculous amount of content for a ridiculously low price. The fact that the PPV market wasn't completely cannibalized shows there are some fans unable to take advantage for technological reasons. The vast majority, though, just couldn't be bothered to care. Fixing the current product would help that. Beyond that they have to figure out something to put on there that will get fans interested enough to pay. If they're too afraid or cheap to do that then they may as well pull the plug on it now, and try to resuscitate PPV. Vince went all in on this, he can't get cold feet now.

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  120. Tall Tales (four stories about famous matches, only one of them is true)
    Some Travel Channel-esque show where the wrestlers rate/critique various arenas/cities
    Six Degrees of Hulk Hogan (Hogan talks about his dubious celebrity connections)
    Scott Steiner the Science Guy
    Pop-up video deal but with matches instead of music videos
    Is It Bigger than Big Show's Head?
    Can You Dig It, SUCKA? (Booker T discusses beatnik literature)
    Sid Screams at the Camera for Thirty Minutes
    Kevin Nash and Juventud Guerrera commentary track for old episodes of Thunder

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  121. Stockholders. When that quarterly report came in and investors saw how few Network subscribers there were, and the new TV deal being so much less than they (stupidly) predicted, the stock price plummeted, making it so Vince isn't going to spend a nickel more on the Network until they can cut every corner they can to make the company appear profitable.

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  122. No they don't.

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  123. A PG version would suck, though.

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  124. Evidently it was all about the Undertaker shocked dude's head exploding. Too violent! Give me break.

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  125. depends on the wrestler. Some may grin and bear it. Lower card guys might be able to make more doing indies (a lower card guy only makes 100k now BEFORE expenses). And some guys may tell WWE to fuck off out of simple pride. Try acting, UFC, running an auto dealership like Meng does. Who knows. But some talent would walk.

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  126. I liked my idea of copying Madden Nation and having people play the 2k15 game in a tournament and having them meet superstars and such. It'd be fun to watch, I think.

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  127. So you're saying just keep offering the stuff that they already know isn't enough to make the network profitable?

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