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After going 4-1 last week I have improved to 24-20-1 on the season. Here are my picks for today:

Cleveland -3.5 vs. Houston
Denver -10 at St. Louis
Kansas City -1 vs. Seattle
Chicago -1.5 vs. Minnesota
Tampa Bay +7.5 at Washington


Also, don't forget to head over to Place to be Nation and vote in their "Greatest Songs of the 90's" tournament as the Group M bracket has been released today. Vote by clicking on the link below.

http://placetobenation.com/ptbns-greatest-song-of-the-90s-tournament-pool-round-one-group-m/

Comments

  1. Oh, wherever you went, hogan would find you...

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  2. Say it with me:
    IT'S FUCKING WRESTLING.

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  3. I think it's a reasonable suspension of disbelief, especially if you think of people as getting dazed or running too fast to stop quickly.

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  4. My all time favorite was when rock did his spit punch at WM 18 on the final punch of the Hulk Up routine. Still did not work!

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  5. Don't you mean FACKING WRESTLING?

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  6. I'm gonna try an Irish Whip in a real fight.

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  7. You are running a great risk of having it reversed. Then you are toast. THINK OF THE CONSEQUENCES!

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  8. I used to justify irish whips to my non-wrestling fan friends when I younger by saying the other wrestler is going with it because it's a 50/50 chance on who actually gets in some offence on the rebound. Would genuinely impress myself with the BS I came up with but that's how much I wanted to keep believing it was real

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  9. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©November 16, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    See you in two weeks when your wounds heal up.

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  10. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©November 16, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    Cesaro and Regal had a pretty compelling match that was mostly mat wrestling.

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  11. I have no problem suspending my disbelief on the Irish Whip. It's just a thing you grow up with. My big issue is when guys do one handed Irish Whips, where they just fling the guys arm without using their other hand to push him. The physics really don't check out on this, you can tell that the opponent is just running on his own without any real propulsion. Orton is a big offender of this tactic.

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  12. Pretty much zero per cent of wrestling is remotely based on reality.

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  13. Replace probably with definitely.

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  14. The Irish Whip just feels more like another reality. We just have to accept it. However, anything in wrestling that has similarities to UFC, or any kind of shoot fighting, needs to be altered. The biggest offender is submissions. You watch UFC and someone will tap out after a submission is locked in for about 1 second. Then you watch WWE, and HHH takes 2 minutes to tap out. That is something that needs to change. While tapping out after 1 second for a submission may not make for good TV, I don't see any good reason for a submission to ever be locked in for longer than 10 seconds before a tap out. 2 minute long submissions just aren't believable anymore now that most fans have been exposed to the real thing.

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  15. I mean, isn't an Irish Whip a combined shove armdrag thing (you grab the arm and push their back) if you didn't go with it you'd dislocate your shoulder.


    And if you're running you can't just stop automatically without falling flat on your face.


    The Irish Whip is not dumber than the Bulldog.

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  16. I was just watching that moment from the Rock DVD and thought it was a great little touch.


    I wonder what would have happened if Hogan wrestled Kerry Von Erich and Kerry went for the Discus Punch during Hogan's Hulk Up.

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  17. Adam "Colorado" CurryNovember 16, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Unless there's ropes to bounce off of it would be kind of pointless.

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  18. Toss the fucker into a railing. Or a wall.

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  19. Please, the most BLATENTLY FAKE THING in wrestling is 95% matches ending with the wrestlers finisher. BUT if someone else does that non-finisher move, it gets NOTHING.

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  20. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©November 16, 2014 at 5:02 PM

    Solid point.

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  21. Like Dutch Mantell told me on a long card ride once, "Patrick, it's fucking wrestling!"

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  22. I actually think Irish Whips are super crucial to wrestling in general because they provide a neutral mechanism for reversals to occur in the course of a match. It's a great, 'quick' way to change the momentum someone has in the match by having an almost dead wrestler pull off a reversal (or a duck/dodge) and then hit a desperate move to switch it back in their favor.

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  23. Virgil's Gimmick TableNovember 16, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    Same with blading. Joey Styles said it best on Austin's podcast. "We've seen from MMA now that when people bleed in a fight, it's from a lip or an eyebrow or your nose. I don't know about you, but I've never bled from the middle of my forehead."

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  24. Virgil's Gimmick TableNovember 16, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    I want to go to Starbucks and order an Irish Whip.

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  25. The Divas are generally shorter than the male wrestlers so running the ropes looks awkward most of the time because they can't run them like the men can.


    The top rope will usually touch a male wrestler just under the armpit but it hit the upper shoulder or even neck of a diva.

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  26. I wonder if it was Hulk's or Vince's idea to kill everybody's finisher dead? It's really a dick move.

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  27. The Irish whip has been on my mind lately so I'm glad this question got asked. When I was younger, I was mocked by my friends because wrestling looked so fake, and whenever I was watching it with them they were mostly groaning the whole time. I think that the Irish whip and the backdrop and some of the other phonier looking stuff turns people off the product. It just looks old and I'm bored of it. I really believe that the product needs a huge revamp in style for the modern day. Scott is right, and I think he had an epiphany while answering, that people stopped watching wrestling and started following MMA and never looked back. Myself included. Like he said guys can still run into the ropes but I believe that it would be a good idea to wean out the irish whip and find new creative ways to put guys into the turnbuckles. Little things like that can go a long way for a product that is extremely stale.

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  28. Wrestling has a lot of cartoonish (if that's the right word) elements to it that you just have to suspend disbelief on. The irish whip is among the least of them. How about the fact that someone's entrance music magically goes off whenever they decide to interrupt someone's promo or run down to make a save? Or how the grand majority of finishing moves are nowhere near the most painful of moves that are used through a match? (In reality, the superplex is more painful than 99.9% of finishing maneuvers, and yet you'd probably have to travel back to the 1980's to find an instance where it was actually used to successfully pin somebody.)

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  29. See, that's one of the few things I buy. I like the idea that a guy has "mastered" a move so well that he just does it better. Sure plenty of guys use power bombs...but how many look like Eddie Guerrero's or Vader's?

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  30. "To me the most blatantly fake thing in wrestling is the Irish Whip
    (well, that and the idea that you can punch a guy in the face with a
    closed fist ten times and not turn the face into hamburger and your hand
    into a bloody mess, but that's for another day)."

    To me it seems like these two "proofs" were co-opted from Randy Orton and Jim Ross interviews.

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  31. Try telegraphing a backdrop instead.

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