Scott, been reading you since before I can remember. Wanted to let you know I've got a new column on wrasslin' for Deadspin and would love your opinion on it!
http://deadspin.com/is-wrestlemania-going-to-be-garbage-or-what-1691333419
OK, but I feel like the subject matter might infringe on the Sporting News column I'm probably gonna write tomorrow night. So fair warning if I steal all your points.
"that led me to the realization that my enjoyment of pro wrestling can't solely depend on WWE."
ReplyDeleteI love this column already.
It was a good discussion.
ReplyDeleteAnyone see this? http://www.cagesideseats.com/2015/3/15/8219259/wrestlemania-31-main-event-script-leaked-spoiler
ReplyDeleteYes?
ReplyDeleteIs that script a phony or the real deal that someone slipped out?
ReplyDeleteThe wording alone should give away that it's all bullshit.
ReplyDeletethere is no way the script says "pipe in this is awesome chants" weeks before the show is even supposed to happen. Reeks of angry redditer.
0% that is legit.
That seems like such bullshit.
ReplyDeleteRead the comments
ReplyDeleteIt's obviously a parody piece
ReplyDeleteAvengers 2 is going to blow Wrestlemania 31 out of the water in terms of entertainment value.
ReplyDeleteThat's the real deal : Roman Ragin is gonna beat Brock, then Rollins, then HHH and kick out of all their finisher multiple times
ReplyDeleteI could see the Magneto Twins really dragging the film down.
ReplyDeleteJames Spader is going to be awesome, but if you've seen Godzilla you'd realize that Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Elizabeth Olson have A) no chemistry and B) no talent.
I'm excited too, but that excitement is tethered by the realization that the cast is bloated (it's going to be EVERYBODY in Avengers 1 plus new villains and maybe Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. crossover stuff too?) and Joss Whedon's idea of "epic" is underwhelming.
If they make a dick joke about Ultron I'm going to literally facepalm so hard my nose will shatter into a billion pieces.
I think ATJ as the pilot of a new Mechagodzilla in the second installment will help. But yeah, Olsen's character was a mess the first time around. I do wonder if Edwards will keep booking Godzilla as a Gamera-like babyface, though.
ReplyDeleteThe babyface that destroyed downtown San Francisco...maybe he's Cena.
ReplyDeleteAs soon as Bryan Cranston died so did that movie.
Let it be known that I'd rather drown my dog than write for Deadspin. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteWhy is that? Does your dog pee on the carpet?
ReplyDeleteSorry pal, but fuck Gawker.
ReplyDeleteThank you. I agree with every point. People got really mad at me for saying that when the movie first came out.
ReplyDeleteBesides not having easy access to it, I dont see myself ever getting into Lucha Underground. I dont love the lucha style, and I like more realistic wrestling characters. All that mythical dragon bullshit would just turn me off.
ReplyDeleteIt's quite clearly a parody, dude.
ReplyDeleteMy dog actually does pee on the carpet, funny you should say. I personally find Gawker Media to be the most click baity website on the Internet and its bloggers to be absolute trash bags.
ReplyDeleteExcept for your blog. I liked that one.
Except for easy access to the show (which I don't have) I feel exactly the opposite on all your points.
ReplyDeleteI think I might be repeating myself from another thread where this was talked about,but I don't think that in kayfabe,luchadors "are" those things. They're just guys who want to get over with cool masks or honor their dad's cool mask. Prince Puma isn't actually a cat,he's just a fast guy. That hunter dude doesn't really want to put Puma's head on the wall,he just wants bragging rights for winning. There's no mythical dragon stuff really.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, he seemed content to avoid the military until they fired at him on the bridge. Compared to his mid-90s incarnation he was practically docile.
ReplyDeleteThe women's fourway was great. Far from the greatest women's match of the decade, though.
ReplyDeleteDoes WWE keep track of all of the media outlets that write about how uninteresting their product is? Between the trashing on social media, what people write about them, how do they not even listen just a little bit? Do they really live in this bubble where because they make money and the kids like it, everything is fine?
ReplyDeleteI like the monster push they give him tho
ReplyDeleteThere's definitely someone that monitors all their mentions, positive or negative, but I'm sure next to none of that actually gets escalated to Vince.
ReplyDeleteAs far as the WWE goes, it's an easy winner over the last 10 years.
ReplyDeleteI've seen most of Elizabeth Olsen's work; she's fucking talented as shit.
ReplyDeleteThe Harry Potter thing? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteSo the first guy who shared it on the blog didn't legitimately beleive it.
ReplyDeleteClearly I can't read sarcasm.
The only bad pub is no pub...
ReplyDeleteYou're thinking CHIKARA
ReplyDeleteDeadspin's gone down the tubes ever since they got rid of the Virgilbag for literally no reason.
ReplyDeleteWhat's she been in, the shitty Oldboy remake?
ReplyDeleteMaybe she's good, but when I see her act as a duo with another actor and it sucks, and then she's going to be a duo with the same actor in another role I get less than enthused.
He was still going directly at the bridge, and 'zillas fatass was sure to break that thing.
ReplyDeleteSorry, he murdered hundreds if not thousands of civilians (not to mention the incalculable environmental damage done from his radioactive nature) that ovation he got at the end was total bullshit.
I thought people loved pointing out how action movies result in really expensive collateral damage, or was that only for Man of Steel?
ReplyDeleteI can't believe people were calling it better than Pacific Rim.
That too. I stuck up for Chikara only because Quackenbush makes it clear that it's sort of the Harlem Globetrotters of wrestling, and because I hate kayfabe and want it to die. In practice I find it lame. Even if LU isn't that bad I prefer characters that seem like exaggerated realblife people, not Prince puma.
ReplyDeleteKayfabe is in the process of being reworked.
ReplyDeleteI think they finally understand the internet now and how they can use it to thier advantage. (wrestling in general, but specifically WWE)
THat's why I said a while back, Austin is the smartest man in wrestling because he will find a way to get Vince's money. The podcast shit (which I am still not 100% behind) is the future of shoots.
Once they tailor it to make it WWE_sanitized, they will go after RF video and Kayfabe Commentaries, because they are making money outside of the business.
THe WWE copies eventually everything.
They did with the apter mags
In the future they will tackle the shoot market.
And i believe this is all and effort to maximize revenue obviously.
Re: goofy wrestling/LU
I havent caught all of LU but its really Promo Azteca/AAA for an american audience.
If Konnan and Vampiro are involved creatively, you can expect basically ECW with Lucha Libre. But the difference is that with Promo Azteca, Konnan threw everything at the fans at once and burned out the territory... I think now that he is older, he wants to gain the fans trust first before going off the deep end.
Wrestling is the Harlem Globetrotters of wrestling. It's all fake. The comments Quack has made are about wrestling as a whole being like the Globetrotters.
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