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Thunder - October 28, 1999

Thunder
Date: October 28, 1999
Location: Cox Arena, San Diego, California
Attendance: 5,091
Commentators: Larry Zbyszko, Mike Tenay

Reviewed by Tommy Hall

The company has been turned upside down in the last week and a half as suddenly there's a World Title tournament for the vacant belt, wrestling doesn't matter, and the Filthy Animals are ALL OVER THE PLACE. Now to be fair that means Torrie on TV a lot more so maybe this isn't all bad. Heaven help us with whatever Thunder is going to become. Let's get to it.


Opening montage.

Juventud Guerrera vs. Evan Karagias

This is a rematch from when Bret interrupted their match on Nitro a few weeks back. Evan misses an early dropkick and gets headscissored down but Juvy stops to pose. He spends too long though and gets sent into the buckle so Evan can hammer away in the corner. A spinwheel kick drops Evan but he reverses a suplex into one of his own. They're starting to pick things up a bit. Juvy nails a dropkick and a headbutt before yelling at the fans.....and here's Sid so never mind.

Sid actually doesn't destroy them and lets Juvy leave. He says he's undefeated and has proof that Goldberg didn't beat him. Sid throws out an open challenge to anyone in the back and Juvy comes back in to sit on the ropes. Thankfully that's just a red herring as Benoit comes out to accept the challenge. Sid promises to cripple Benoit tonight and chokeslam the cruiserweights to restore our faith in him.

The announcers chatter about Benoit.

The Maestro is in the back and talks about being the star of the show. This character is as much of a disaster as Berlyn.

Chavo Guerrero is looking for Goldberg because he wants TV time.

Prince Iaukea vs. The Maestro

Good grief end this show already. Iaukea dropkicks Maestro as he turns around so Maestro points a finger at him. THE DEVASTATION! We get into some basic stuff with both guys trading wristlocks until Maestro slugs him into the corner. A whip sends Prince across the ring and Maestro follows him up with even more punches. Prince chops and backdrops for two but eats a knee lift and gets caught in an STF (the Encore) for the submission. Short, bad and the Maestro vs. Prince Iaukea. I think that sums the whole thing up.

Quick recap of the Revolution vs. the Filthy Animals with Torrie being kidnapped on Monday.

Perry Saturn/Dean Malenko vs. Silver King/El Dandy

Shane says Asya is keeping Torrie wherever the Revolution wants her. Malenko threatens to break Benoit's legs on Monday in their tournament match. The Revolution throws their victims to the floor but Silver King comes back in for something like a running DDT to Saturn. Dandy comes in for a double drop toehold and a double kick to the chest to keep Saturn in trouble.

Back to King but Dean offers a distraction and Saturn kicks Silver in the face. It's off to Dean for a basement dropkick and a lot of spitting, setting up Saturn's top rope knee. The Revolution takes King outside for some choking before a suplex/high cross body combo gets two. King gets in a few shots for the tag to Dandy for a missile dropkick to Dean. A plancha takes Saturn down as well (barely touching him but the dive looked good) but Dean nails Dandy with a chair, setting up the Cloverleaf for the win.

Rating: D+. Another squash here and a bit better performance from the luchadors than I was expecting. That being said, we're two days into the Revolution vs. Animals feud and I'm already sick of both teams. Neither is likeable in the slightest and the Revolution has gone completely against their original idea. This was acceptable but at least it didn't involve the Animals.

Chavo searches for Goldberg.

Long recap of Nitro. This felt like filler.

Harlem Heat is ready for Curly Bill tonight but Chavo interrupts to talk about looking for Goldberg.

The Revolution gets in a car.

Curly Bill says there are no problems in the Rednecks and he needs to go back and tend to the moose on his ranch. Gene doesn't think ranches have moose and Curly goes off on him about being the real cowboy here. Ok that wasn't bad.

Stevie Ray vs. Curly Bill

Oh.....joy. Stevie jumps him at the bell and stomps away in the corner as Booker is on commentary, talking about facing Jeff Jarrett in the tournament. Stevie misses a middle rope elbow but no sells Curly's shoulders and kicks him in the face. They head outside with Curly going face first onto the announcers' table (Booker: “ARE YOU OK?”, followed by a right hand to the face). Back in and Stevie gets two off a side slam but the referee gets bumped. Dear goodness enough with that nonsense. Curly hits him with the boot but Booker comes in for a hard Harlem side kick, setting up the Slap Jack for the pin.

Rating: D-. This ref bump stuff has to stop. There's one on almost every show now and they're not even in the main events. This was a three and a half minute squash but the squasher needed a ref bump to win. That doesn't make sense and misses the entire point of basic wrestling booking.

Konnan/Kidman/Eddie Guerrero vs. Steven Regal/Chris Adams/Dave Taylor

Before the match, all of the Animals talk about wanting to do various things to the Revolution, including playing them like marks. Rey jumps in on the announcers' table to talk about the Revolution. Taylor goes right after Eddie to start and avoids an early dropkick before taking Eddie down with European uppercuts and a basement dropkick of his own.

Off to Adams, who gets caught by a rolling clothesline from a crotch grabbing (his own at least) Konnan. As Rey tries to get money out of Zbyzsko, Konnan jumps over Adams in the corner but eats a European uppercut from Regal. Off to Kidman who sends Regal into the ropes, nearly knocking Adams off by mistake. Kidman throws Regal down but charges into a hot shot to change control again.

The Brits start stomping away until Kidman blocks a powerbomb. Konnan, ever adherent to the rules, comes in to nail Adams without tagging. Kidman charges into Regal's elbow in the corner and it's off to Adams, who goes up and tries.....something resembling a Superman Punch but crashes down. The hot tag brings in Guerrero to clean house as everything breaks down. Eddie hits a quick suplex on Taylor and a big frog splash is enough for the pin.

Rating: C. Not the worst match in the world, Filthy Animals annoyance aside. They're just unlikeable people who ramble on with lingo that ranges from sounding stupid to making no sense while seemingly want to rape every member of the Revolution. Somehow, one of the most likeable wrestlers of all time in Rey Mysterio is associated with this group and WCW seems to think the fans will find them to be the good guys.

Oh and the Filthy Animals steal the losers' robes for good measure.

Chavo is on the phone, saying he's going to get himself over since Goldberg isn't here to do it for him. Wrestlers using this lingo today would appeal to an extremely niche audience. In 1999, this might as well be Martian.

Berlyn speaks English to say that his master plan is in effect and we will all serve him one day. His plan is to lose to Brad Armstrong?

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Lash Leroux

Lash says he's going to win the tournament and be the younger World Champion ever. I think Giant still has his beat even if he wins. Chavo comes out and reminds us that he's looking for Goldberg for no apparent reason. Lash goes right after him to start and does his splits but misses a clothesline, allowing Chavo to hook a headscissors.

A belly to back gets two for Chavo and he slugs away in the corner. Lash jawbreaks out of a chinlock and gets two of his own off a supelx. That goes nowhere so Chavo takes him into the corner for a stomping but gets forearmed in the head, setting up a chinlock. We get a very sudden BORING chant which almost feels piped in.

I would ask why a company would do that, but this is one of the least stupid things WCW has done in recent weeks. More really basic stuff changes control a few times until Chavo gets a positive reaction and a near fall off a dropkick. Guerrero scores with a clothesline and some chops in the corner, only to get caught in Whiplash for the pin out of nowhere.

Rating: D+. So Chavo wants to find Goldberg, gets cheered by the fans and then loses to Lash Leroux. Somehow they've managed to fit that much plot into about 75 minutes after Chavo having almost nothing to do for weeks. If they could find a happy middle ground, I'd be curious to see where some of these ideas went. As it is, I barely remember them by the end of the show because of how fast they come and go.

Kidman records Buff Bagwell and Scotty Riggs talking about the finish of a match. I think I know where this is going and I can feel the headache coming.

Ernest Miller, flanked by three women, gets out of a white limo. So he's the Godfather now? I've heard worse ideas.

Berlyn vs. Jerry Flynn

Just cut the cord already. During the entrances, we hear that WCW is filming a movie in Los Angeles. My goodness it's Ready to Rumble time isn't it? Berlyn goes right at him and hits a kind of floatover DDT before cranking on a wristlock. Shouldn't that be the other way around? They trade kicks before Berlyn sends him into the ropes for a kick to the face, a nipup and another dropkick for the best looking sequence he's done in years.

More kicks to Jerry set up a belly to back but Flynn avoids a charge against the ropes. Jerry fires off his usual array of strikes but throws in some right hands to show his versatility. The Bodyguard intercepts Jimmy Hart (who is the face here anyway?) and nails Flynn for missing a charge, giving Berlyn an easy victory.

Rating: D. He's evil, German and apparently athletic when he wants to be. This character is dead in the water though and they need to find something else for him to do. That's one area where Russo truly was excellent: finding a new character for someone. The words “creative has nothing for you” do not exist on his watch. The gimmick might be insane and ridiculous, but he would have something.

Chavo is still looking for Goldberg but finds Sid instead. “YOU WANT TV TIME?” A chokeslam leaves Chavo on a cart, end scene.

Here's Ernest Miller with the three good looking women. After telling the rednecks to sit down, he informs us that he'll be in the tournament on Monday against doctor's orders. THIS warranted coming to the ring and talking?

Benoit thinks Sid is running his mouth too much. I'd say it's more that he's wrestling too much but that's just me. Benoit isn't done with Malenko either.

Scotty Riggs vs. Buff Bagwell

Some things never change. We recap Buff's kayfabe murdering story about not wanting to job ever again because he doesn't care for the Powers That Be. This would be the REAL part in the middle of all the fake stuff you're seeing. I have no idea if Bagwell is a face or a heel here and I think that's the point. Riggs doesn't have the mirror anymore. They trade full nelsons to start until Buff breaks out and just stands in the corner.

Tenay promises us eight more tournament matches on Monday. Be still my beating heart. Riggs gets taken down in a headlock but walks into a dropkick to send him into the ropes for more staring. Some leg work keeps Bagwell down and a high cross body gets two. Riggs looks stunned because, I kid you not, that was supposed to be the finish. The referee yells at Bagwell but he small packages Riggs for the pin with the referee slowly counting it. Bagwell's music doesn't play and THAT WAS A SHOOT. BECAUSE FANS KNOW WHAT THAT IS!

Rating: F. “Come see Buff Bagwell! He's bored and not trying because he doesn't agree to our scripted finishes! By paying us your money, you'll get to see him stand around and not care and barely put any effort into his matches!” Vince Russo was paid to think of this idea and then asked you to pay money to watch it play out on pay per view. Russo somehow convinced people he was a genius by doing this. Maybe he's smarter than we all are and we just can't keep up with him.

Mayhem ad.

Chris Benoit vs. Sid Vicious

Please....be gentle? Sid shoves him around to start and fires off some kicks to the ribs (Daniel Bryan has nothing to worry about) followed by a right hand to the jaw. Benoit comes back with strikes of his own and a middle rope dropkick for two but the kickout sends him flying out to the floor. Back in and Benoit flashes back to Fall Brawl by going after the leg. Why he thinks Sid will sell now is anyone's guess.

A few cannonballs down onto the leg look to set up the Figure Four but Sid kicks him right back to the floor. This time the big man follows him out and drops Benoit across the barricade before taking him back in for choking, choking, forearms to the chest and more choking.

Benoit's comeback is stopped cold by a big boot and we hit the camel clutch so Sid can rest after his hard day in the ring. A few slams get two each on Benoit but he pops up and grabs a German suplex. The Swan Dive misses but Sid is too spent to follow up, allowing Benoit to slap on the Crossface. You know Sid isn't tapping though so here are Saturn and Malenko for the DQ.

Rating: D+. So to clarity, Benoit is now the guy that puts up a good fight against the bigger names but is never allowed to be on their level. Thanks for wasting our time with the Bret tribute match and the US Title reigns, because it's pretty clear that none of it means anything just a few weeks later.

Sid powerbombs everyone to make it clear that no one is on his level. The Filthy Animals run out to beat up the pieces of the Revolution to end the show.

Overall Rating: D. I can't believe I'm saying this but Nitro was more entertaining than this. Thunder continues to be almost nothing beyond average and makes us sit through a ref bump in a Curly Bill vs. Stevie Ray match. The wrestling is bad, the stories range from nonsensical to previews for a Nitro way too complicated to keep track of. Yet somehow, I'd take this over the recent episodes. At least this is so insane that it's fascinating to watch in a way while the recent ones were a way to cure my sleepless nights.

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Comments

  1. Thunder is really starting to fly off the tracks. They should have kept Nitro at three hours and pulled the plug on this and cut their losses.

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  2. kbwrestlingreviewsMarch 21, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    I wish they would have. Thankfully Nitro gets cut to two hours in January.

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  3. Has there every been a Vince Russo interview/shoot where he's taken to task for some of these storylines? Like, 'What was the idea with Buff Bagwell and what was the end game to that?'

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  4. kbwrestlingreviewsMarch 21, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    I haven't listened to any Russo interviews, but his standard answers are something along the lines of "not my fault, they didn't let the ideas play out."

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  5. The only one I ever remember is the Wrestlecrap Podcast from 2005 where he said people would tune in to watch Tank Abbott and David Arquette as WCW Champions because nobody would know if they would be losing the title on that show or not.

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  6. You'd be wrong about Lash. Giant was 23 when he won the strap, the Cajun Sensation's all of 22 years old here. Laisser Les Bon Temps Rouller, I Gua-ron-TEE!

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  7. And which Vince?

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  8. Apparently it's good news for people who hate flippy mask wearing shitheads.

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  9. The 619 totally missed, looked like he was already gone before Rey attempted the move.

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  10. The craziest part for me; aside from how horrible and sad the whole incident is but the fact that it seems, as everyone has stated, the move that probably killed him was the drop kick that sent him out of the ring (the video I saw was too far to the left to actually see the impact of him hitting the ropes, which I'm kind of glad that I couldn't actually see it but you can tell in the video that he must have hit them pretty hard because the ropes are shacking violently. I have no desire to find another video. I fought with myself even watching any video. The part I saw was enough and will probably stay with me for a long time) yet even after such an impact that would leave him motionless just seconds later he climbs back in the ring and puts himself in position for the 619.

    Anybody else who hurts themselves to that degree would have stayed on the outside of the ring, called for someone to help. but as a wrestler his only thought was to keep going and get ready for the next move. I don't fancy myself a doctor, or truly know how the human body works that it can have such a severe injury yet continue to function for just a few seconds more before it shuts down. Unless he didn't realize himself how hurt he truly was. It's just crazy and sad and a terrible moment for wrestling.

    I don't know if him getting medical attention faster would have helped save him.But I have to believe if someone had started performing CPR immediately it couldn't have hurt. Someone should have realized that wasn't a normal position he was in. Usually when someone get's knocked out their body goes stiff, not limp like that. Think of all the times you've seen a football player get knocked out in a game and their arms goes up in the air in a frozen position. Perro's body was lifeless. But then again none of those guys are doctors. How are they supposed to know?

    My only other thought is that there had to be some other pre-existing condition; whether it was a heart condition, or something wrong with his neck, or he was on a bunch of drugs (sorry he was a wrestler, it's a possibility) but considering how many thousands of thousands of wrestlers have done moves like that millions of times none of them have died. There is always more then meets the eye when things like that happen. However, it is a reminder of how small the separation of life and death is for all of us.

    In the blink of an eye we can all be gone. Fucking sucks.

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  11. Shut Up Meekin.

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  12. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©March 21, 2015 at 12:54 PM

    DDP better not go on her show again.

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  13. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©March 21, 2015 at 12:55 PM

    But.....you're Meekin.....

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  14. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 21, 2015 at 12:59 PM

    Adjective or verb?

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  15. Buffalo HopscotchMarch 21, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    They did a bit in the Timeline

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  16. The lesson is clear.

    DON'T FUCK WITH REY MYSTERIO.

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  17. "Who wouldn't tune in to see me as World Champion?" Evidently a lot of people.

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  18. Well, it's not like he took his ice cream.

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  19. Until Arquette goes complete Benoit or Charles Manson, he'll always have my respect for trying to turn down his "run" as World champ, realizing it was stupid, but being good enough to donate his earnings from this time to Owen and Pillman's families.

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  20. Russo is an underpants gnome.

    1. Start a nonsensical angle, try to include some variation of a pole match.
    2. ???
    3. RATINGS!

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  21. Vince Russo was actually wrong--a luchadore CAN get over in America apparently

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  22. Thankfully Nitro gets cut in about 17 months.

    Actually, that was unfortunate, because at rhe beginning of 2001, it seemed like they might have been, and were trying to turn the corner.

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  23. I'll still never understand Bischoff unmasking Rey, in WCW.

    "Hmm, think we could make millions selling replica Rey Mysterio masks? Nahh!"

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  24. Hell of a heel turn be Rey.

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  25. You think Shane Douglas and Pitbull #1 had heat?

    Speaking of heat, I'm going to hell.

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  26. That fucking sucks. I'll watch the video next time I feel the urge to dust off the ol' Over the Edge '99 VHS and pause it to see if I can see anything.

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  27. In honor of Meekin, here's a QOTD: What type of person shouts "Oh, what a scholar!"

    I attended some BS lecture (100% not by choice) on some horseshit psychological topic that was related to teaching. Guy was a ph.d and a professor at a well known undergrad.

    Some woman next to me kept shaking her head agreeing the whole time as if he was talking to her personally 20 rows back.

    Then when the lecture was done she stood up and applauded with the program (?) in her hand and said "Oh, what a scholar!" Not loud enough for him to hear but loud enough for 6 rows to hear.

    What kind of person is this?

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  28. I understood the unmasking of Juvi. That boy was pretty, and I'm guessing he wanted more tail. Rey? That is an ugly man, if I recall correctly.

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  29. His bottom bitch?

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  30. Plus, it got heel heat for Jericho. Outsiders I think was mostly a case of "why not?".

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  31. Although I assume Nash/Bischoff figured it'd get heel heat for them as well. Vince for all of his faults, especially lately, saw dollar signs immediately with Rey's mask.

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  32. Austin turned his in-ring mishap into The Attitude Era. Some people just don't have *it*.

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  33. The fuck's the Daily Thread?

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  34. Well, it was his first non-WWE match in years, I believe. When Dominic hangs himself from a ladder next to a picture of Eddie, then maybe we'll hear from Nancy Grace. They're Mexicans.

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  35. This is it, bub. Go, Cincinnati.

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  36. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    I don't know why but it just occurred to me that it would be totally badass if Randy Orton had a cat follow him to the ring for his matches.

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  37. A Grumpy Cat?

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  38. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    More like an evil looking cat. Parts of Randy's gimmick is that he's a sociopath and coming to the ring with a cat trailing him just seems to fit

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  39. WCW took Rey Mysterio and unmasked him.
    WWF took Fake Diesel and masked him

    Which one got more over?

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  40. Jorge SteinbrennerMarch 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    I've seen this exact headline already on an article on FB.

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  41. Rock's take on whether Roman Reigns is ready for the main event, tl;dr version: He's being pushed pretty soon like how I was and the fans don't like it, but the match is set in stone so at this point he's either ready or he's not.

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  42. For all those complaining that using Rey Mysterio's name in this headline and the headline that most news sites are using is clickbait. Can I point out that he is FAR the biggest name on that show let alone in the match and he hit the last move that indirectly caused the death.

    Clickbait would be if Mysterio simply appeared at the show completely separately to this match and yet was still reported in the headline.

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  43. "But I have to believe if someone had started performing CPR immediately it couldn't have hurt."

    CPR does no good if your brain is disconnected from the rest of your body

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  44. Where's Herbert West when we need him?

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  45. Spot-on headline over at SquredCircle on Reddit:

    "Roman Reigns is like a video game we were soooo hyped for, that got rushed out of development way too early. Now we're all confused, waiting for the patch."

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  46. "indirectly caused the death" might be a bit of an overstatement. Mysterio's drop kick was the last contact with Perro, but we don't quite know what caused the death direct or indirectly.

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  47. Yeah, on a purely superficial level, Rey looked a lot like Peter Lorre. Not something you want from a babyface to look like one of the more villainous character actors around.

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  48. Watching some random show from the two world title days really shows that they at least got something right. John Cena as WWE champ and Jack Swagger getting pushed as another world champ is just a weird dynamic.

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  49. Well, cause, you know. Mexican tradition?


    Nah. Guess not.

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  50. My first thought? I'd be hoping he punts it into the stands. Because fuck cats.


    (No, not really. We have 7. I'm just fucking tired of them.)

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  51. Just caught upto date with The Flash and i'm amazed they managed to pull off Firestorm on a tv budget without it looking like shit.

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  52. If Vince had just kept Rey in the WWE a little longer this wouldn't have happened..


    By the way... everything that happens in wrestling is ultimately Vince's fault.. pretty much a given.

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  53. Something looks fucked up with the way Aguayo rolls forward right before the Rana to the outside. Like he just tries a forward roll and then stumbles. Maybe just a mis-timed move. The Rana looks pretty neck-cranky, and the Dropkick looks a little stiff. I wonder what happened?

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  54. I liked the random Swagger owns Orton dynamic.

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  55. Rey Mysterio: "THE GIANT KILLER"

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  56. Funny how his outlook as the guy's cousin is more measured than Jericho's, all flavored with "shut the Hell up"s and the like.

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  57. Also, I'm not much of a Japan guy, but today, I also learned that Misawa died in the ring. I honestly had no idea.

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  58. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©March 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Yeah, happened a few years ago, it was tragic as well.

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  59. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    I have one cat. One's enough, (did you read the lyrics to my song, Bow Down to the Cat)

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  60. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©March 21, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    I don't know why, but the way Konnan violently shook Perro really bothers me. I know that he was probably dead at that point, but still....

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  61. Just waking up to this news, and I don't even ... I've only been following lucha closely for about a year, but to attempt to make an American wrestling comparison, this would be like if Randy Orton died in the ring during Steve Austin's WWE comeback match, with Hulk Hogan at ringside. Perro was still one of the top heel performers in Mexico, if not the top heel. And while he wasn't in his prime (35 years old), he still had some years in the game left ahead of him. Mysterio is of course an iconic figure in Mexican wrestling. And Konnan (who is at ringside and looks like one of the first people to realize something's wrong with Perro) is of course one of the most important figures in Mexican wrestling history in front of the camera and behind the camera. And I don't know if this was at the actual Rey del Reyes show of if it was a house show or something, but Rey del Reyes is like AAA's Survivor Series. So imagine Orton dying during Austin's comeback match, with Hogan at ringside, at Survivor Series 2015 in Los Angeles.

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  62. I wish Rey Mysterio would stop murdering people.

    Sadface. :(

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  63. Um. No.


    If you want to write lyrics advocating powerbombing cats, I'm in.

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  64. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Good thing Kurt Angle wasn't around to cut a promo on this poor guy..."Whats the big deal? I die in the ring all the time. I died in the ring this morning and I'm fine. Try winning the Olympics with a broken freaken neck."

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  65. Who put Perro in the sky? R-E-Y Mysterio.

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  66. This is awful for everyone involved, including Manik (a.k.a. Suicide in TNA) and Xtreme Tiger (Tigre Uno in TNA), who are the respective tag partners in the match. I keep thinking of D-Lo Brown and how the Droz incident happened while he was pretty young in the sport and it almost derailed his career and still haunts him to this day. As far as I know -- of course you don't really know with masked luchadores -- Manik and Tigre are pretty young and have promising careers. Being in the ring when this happened, it could damage them for a long time.

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  67. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    So I finally got the WWE Network so I can see Wrestlemania next week. Only cost me $9.99. That's a really great deal, I wish they advertized that otherwise I would have gotten it a lot sooner.

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  68. I like how this news is being reported as "match involving ex-WWE star." I bet that makes Vince freak out.

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  69. Never mind a daily thread, I think we now need an night thread.

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  70. Vince has NO idea this happened yet. Nor will he, unless the media calls him directly.

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  71. Yes, that headlines are supposed to convey the most important information in the smallest space.

    Rey bring in e ring makes this a much bigger news story, no gives a shit about the other guys

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  72. I don't think we've gone without a Daily Thread is in one to a year when the Daily and Evening Thread became standards. Funny that on Tuesdays and Wednesday's we wouldn't have an evening thread

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  73. He's Manik in TNA, as well, now; has been for a while

    Except that he has different gear - think what Rollins wears (including the shirt, and his mask is no longer all encompassing and is instead something akin to but much better than Aldo Montoya

    It's not as much of a trainwreck as it sounds

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  74. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    I wouldn't write a song about that. However he was being bad one day so I gave him and F5. Then I gave him another another one to show I was serious. Then I gave him a third cause hey 3 worked on The Undertaker. He...he no sold all three. My cat might be able to give Lesner a run for his money.

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  75. Kind of like how WWE always had KotR on PPV but not a PPV all 12 months, but then suddenly there's a PPV every month but not one of them is KotR

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  76. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    Anyone else wondering what kind of "King" entrance Triple H will have this year? Wouldn't it be badass if he was carried to the ring on his throne as a tribute to the Macho King?

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  77. And that's only b/c it happened in 2015

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  78. Not only the when, but the where. Not in a WWE ring? Who gives a fuck?

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  79. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    So....you don't think it would be cool to pay tribute to Savage the night after his HOF induction?

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  80. Only if the carriers have an "accident" and dump him off the ramp down to the bare ground.

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  81. No one would interpret it as a tribute to Savage

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  82. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 21, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    Thats a terrible way to honor Randy Savage?

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  83. I think it must feel (or at least must have felt) horrible for someone like him who is obviously a fan to be vilified by so many fans for that run that he had to be convinced to go through with.

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  84. Nope. In his biographies, he constantly says this was all great. Hell, he still thinks David Arquette as World Champion was brilliant with "hey, it got people talking, right?"

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  85. It really was this time when it was clear the bigger stars were refusing to sink to Thunder but stick to Nitro. Not that it was much better there....

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  86. I know it's been said ad nasuem but this once more proves the key problem of Russo's WCW tenure: That he honestly believed every single fan read the Internet constantly, knew all the lingo and everything and thus would get his "clever" breaking of the fourth wall and such with jobs and things. That he never understood we prefer the illusion to work is the reason he was doomed to fail.

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