Wednesday, June 10, 2015

GFW announces shows!

http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/103-indies/42962-global-force-wrestling-first-weekend-lineups

What a pair of barnburners.  Running shows for a 500 person crowd in a baseball stadium with Chris Masters on top and doing 13 weeks of TV tapings without a TV deal.  Clearly this is a company that has learned from TNA's numerous mistakes of the past and has decided to ... uh, I forget.  

229 comments:

  1. Stranger In The AlpsJune 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    Oh man, The Bullet Club!! Fanboys profess GFW the greatest evar!!!

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  2. GFWMecca isn't going to let people talk about Scott after that comment

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  3. Well, hopefully they avoid TNA's biggest mistake which is assuming from day 1 that they're keeping Vince McMahon awake at night worrying about this great new competition....

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  4. I'm not sure if I'd even watch those shows for free.

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  5. Jeff seems to really believe he is going to find another billionaire to bail his company out

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  6. Stranger In The AlpsJune 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    But....but....THE BULLET CLUB!!!

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  7. Not even the best wrestlers from it lol

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  8. Isn't Toby Keith bankrolling this particular Jarrett endeavor?

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  9. I think Cornette is the biggest name they have. I'm not going to judge it based on the talent but I haven't heard who their Booker/writer is, if it's just Jeff then I'll be a bit wary.

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  10. The B-ullet club.

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  11. Chris Mordetzky is a good talent but he shouldn't use his real last name. If he's going to be Chris "The Adonis" Mordetzky just call him Chris Adonis. It sounds better.

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  12. Man, I couldn't disagree with you more. While Convergence wasn't exactly important, it did give me a chance to re-experience characters I hadn't seen in years. I liked it a lot.
    Buying a bunch of Convergence books led me to read a ton of the previews for the dc books. Man, they were all terrible. Not one of them was even remotely interesting to me. This coupled with Marvel basically taking May, June and July off leads to me buying fewer comics than ever before. I didn't even go the store today as the only thing I was interested in was Batman (whose new direction I'm not exactly thrilled with) and next week the only thing is Astro City.

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  13. I'm going to give the new books a shot but after getting burned by Nu52 I'm not all that excited.


    TBH Marvel is doing a better job with the Convergence concept with their Battleworld/Secret Wars stuff.

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  14. The New Heavenly Bodies are on the card? Hasn't anyone in wrestling ever learned not to put the word NEW in front of any team?

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  15. Talk about the "who's who of who gives a fuck." These are like local indy card lineups.

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  16. Well, that's kind of the point. Convergence failed because it made people remember "oh, right, DC used to have non-shitty characters and storylines."

    Not to mention that they could have just told those stories, and much better, without the terrible city vs. city concept.

    Admittedly, it all allegedly was so that they could crap out a couple months' worth of comics while they moved offices, all written by the terrible Earth 2 crews, but.,.. they could have done that a lot better than they did.

    Oh, well, as long as they keep Snyder happy I'll keep buying Batman, and Grayson's presumably still great.

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  17. CruelConnectionNumber2June 10, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    He should be Chris US Open or Chris PGA Championship, perhaps.

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  18. I took the opportunity to get back in to comics when the New 52 launched and stuck with it for about a year, but... I just lost interest again. All the crossovers didn't help. I just wanted to read Batman. I did think the Court Of The Owls stuff was fantastic. I might pick up the Batman trades but I don't think I'll ever go back to picking up the monthly issues

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  19. CruelConnectionNumber2June 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    Cornette hasn't been relevant since 1989, I can't agree with that.

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  20. CruelConnectionNumber2June 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    TNA's first shows featured two wrestling penis masked guys and midgets and strippers. Chill.

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  21. Prichard & Lane weren't even the originals, so this is like the 3rd or 4th (if you count Prichard/Del Ray separately) Heavenly Bodies.

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  22. They're coming to my neck of the woods in August.

    I think I'll wait to buy tickets until the day of the show. Less chance of losing money in an abrupt cancellation that way... :)

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  23. Didn't the GFW show the other day draw like 10k? Or was that just a Legends of Wrestling-type deal.

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  24. We finally have come full circle. Welcome to TNA version 2, aka WCW version 3

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  25. I just liked seeing the old characters again. Total nostalgia. I also bought a bunch of the retro books whenever those came out.

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  26. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 10, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    No, I've heard of most of the guys at my local indy shows.

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  27. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 10, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    His ROH run was a disaster that the company still hasn't fully recovered from.

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  28. Shelton BenjaminJune 10, 2015 at 1:30 PM

    I agree. The Age Outlaws were so much better than the New Age Outlaws

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  29. I don't believe so.

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  30. Shelton BenjaminJune 10, 2015 at 1:32 PM

    Same for that World order stable

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  31. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    The old characters would have been great if 1) they were written better and 2) the stories actually led anywhere. Every book felt like a waste of time, and I've been reading for the better part of 25 years.

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  32. I currently live in Jackson and do some freelance work for the baseball team whose stadium is hosting this. The show hasn't been promoted that well in town. I can't imagine it being much of a success.

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  33. I don't agree on the previews, but I agree on Convergence.

    The main title may have sucked, but who cares? The tie-ins are where it's at. The Superman, Suicide Squad, Nightwing/Oracle, Question, Adventures and Speed Force two-shots warmed my heart and, in some cases, gave closure to characters I love.

    I skipped the event book completely and just read a litany of tie-ins, and I enjoyed most of them. Any event that gives me books as good as Convergence Superman cannot be a "fail."

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  34. Those cards are terrible.

    Outside of the Bullet Club, Masters, and Moose these guys aren't even indy-famous

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  35. Like I said below, I loved the Convergence tie-ins, though the event itself was bland. Still worth it for those two-shots.



    Excited about Justice League, Batman and Green Arrow's new directions, plus the new Cyborg and Starfire books. Less excited about the Superman stuff, but that's because I'm not a big fan of Greg Pak in general. I'm aware he's a critical darling, but his Superman stuff leaves me cold and I didn't care much for World War Hulk either.

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  36. Actually though, Anderson and Gallows are 4th and 5th on the depth chart for bookings in North America.

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  37. Thea Trinidad is hot as hell, and a pretty decent wrestler to boot.

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  38. So, will they have E.V. 3?

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  39. Country singer wrestlers? So... Jarrett?

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  40. I should main event the card that comes to the east side of Cleveland. Probably will interfere and insert myself in it.

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  41. "Kongo Kong vs. Moose"



    That's a main event in any zoo in the world!

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  42. ""Bizarro America," AKA Canada,"


    So its just like real life!


    Also I wonder how long someone bitches about the lack of Marvel updates.

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  43. Also what do you mean by 1938 power levels?

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  44. Of all the heat drawing tag teams of yesteryear, why do they keep getting rebooted? Do they have a New Midnight Express or New Fabulous Ones too?

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  45. Call him Chris Coe and have him come out lathered in vegetable oil.


    "That Chris Coe is really cookin"

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  46. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    He seems to be just really strong and can leap tall buildings in a single bound without being able to fully fly.

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  47. CruelConnectionNumber2June 10, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    Far worse.

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  48. Dat vaporware tho. GFW is wrestling's Duke Nukem Forever/Aliens Colonial Marines.

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  49. Ugh. Why do they keep fucking with his powers?

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  50. The American InsomniacJune 10, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    I like the Justice League Detroit two parter with Ralph and Sue Dibny and hope they revisit it post-Convergence.

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  51. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 2:07 PM

    Because they don't know what they're doing otherwise is my guess.

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  52. How can you possibly be upset at this lineup? WE GET THE TATE TWINS VS BEST FRIENDS TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  53. The one last weekend in New York with Steiner, RVD & Goldberg? That was a Legends thing.

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  54. Who are you to doubt the Tate Twins and BEST FRIENDS?!?!?

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  55. Kevin Matthews was in WWE Developmental back in the mid-00's, if I recall. He actually used to come into AOL's wrestling chatroom once in a great while (back when AOL rooms were still semi-relevant).

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  56. I wonder how they scammed Karl Anderson into this thing considering how vehement he was about never doing US wrestling just a short time ago.

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  57. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 2:20 PM

    Because, DC.

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  58. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Also gotta make Batman look strong(er).

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  59. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    DC You...if there's something worse to say than "fuck you," this is it.

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  60. God I hate the way people adore Batman. Why isn't the whole plot of Batman vs. Superman Superman just heat visioning him to death from like a mile away?

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  61. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    Run-in by Squirrel or I riot.

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  62. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    The Many Deaths of the Douchebag Batman at the Hands of Superman is a movie I would watch.

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  63. They should co-not-promote with TNA!

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  64. Call me old school, but I just can't get into the whole "create a promotion from scratch and tape TV" business model. I remember seeing lots of new wrestling in the 80's, and not being interested in them if I didn't have a sense that they existed outside of their TV show. It takes time to get into wrestlers, their characters & storylines. I remember watching World Class, GWF, the UWF, and taking a few shows to get interested, but only being able to if it felt like I could--in theory--go see them put on a live show. Same with ECW. But any time I've seen a promotion knowing they don't really exist outside their TV taping, it's always killed my ability to connect with them.

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  65. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 2:24 PM

    Did he insult people there too? (He did this to my friend, it caused LOTS of trouble, unfortunately...)

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  66. He just palms his forehead and holds him in place like a bully.

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  67. It was a legends thing that GFW sort of latched onto for self-promotional reasons. Same thing with the NJPW PPV's US airing. Seems like the only promotion GFW is capable of is the kind where someone else does all the heavy lifting, which I think is what most people suspected from the start.

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  68. Jim has some great insights about the industry as a whole, but the more you listen to him talk, the more you realize that in his head, it's still 1982.

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  69. What is Darkseid's deal? Is he tough?
    Compare him to a Marvel guy. Thanos?

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  70. The Bullet Club is in high demand right now. They're one of the hottest non-WWE tag team out there right now and I'm actually pretty stoked for their ROH shows coming up.

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  71. Good thing that doesn't apply to individuals or Neville would be "The Man that Gravity Forgot, the Sensation!"

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  72. These two stadiums sit 6000, which is bigger than some of the smaller venues WWE runs for house shows.

    Granted, they're still much smaller than most of the baseball stadiums that TNA ran events in.

    Sure, the Legends of Wrestling event at Citi Field apparently drew 10,000, but that was packed with legit names and was in an area that is a hotbed for wrestling.

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  73. At this point, wouldn't TNA kill for a 500 person crowd?

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  74. TNA would commit murder for a 500 person crowd.

    TNA would commit genocide for a PAYING crowd of 500.

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  75. True. And money talks.

    I just remember that when Albert left Japan to go back to be Tensai, people asked Anderson if he would ever follow and he basically pissed on the notion of ever doing any U.S. wrestling stints.

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  76. Instead of Chris Masters he could name himself "Chris Champions".

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  77. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    That's pretty much the equivalent, I guess.

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  78. I guess if you're willing to ignore when his developmental territory produced Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Randy Orton, and Dave Batista, then yes, he hasn't been relevant.

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  79. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    As is Darkseid

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  80. The only Convergence thing I dug was Shazam. Fun story, art felt like it fit the story. The reveal of the big bad was awesome.

    Kinda curious about where Lantern is going now.

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  81. Does he shoot beams of cosmic energy?

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  82. "Best Friends" is Trent Barreta and Chuck Taylor. I would definitely call them indy-famous.

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  83. Who the fuck are those people?

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  84. I only read one issue of the main title, and that was 5 which I bought by accident. And I was thoroughly confused.

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  85. I didn't feel like 2 was a factor at all. I just wanted nice character moments. Which I got. So they were written fine for me.

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  86. And look at them now!

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  87. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    He does, actually. He's the evil leader of a group of god-like beings from the planet of Apokolips, fighting the light side gods from New Genesis.

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  88. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Also one of the Bill DeMott accusers (though I am not sure he'd pee on someone if Bill set them on fire...)

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  89. Weren't you calling WWE dumb for not bringing Masters back?

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  90. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    No they'll do one worse...an XPW reunion.

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  91. I haven't seen this yet, but I know its terrible! Welcome to the internet!

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  92. You don't remember Bombastic Bob and Bodacious Bart?

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  93. Hmm, interesting. I like beams of cosmic energy. Does he ever lead groups of these god-like beings against heroes of Earth?

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  94. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:07 PM

    I feel like you're making fun of me at this point. But I'm still going to answer. Because I'm a good guy.


    Yes. In fact, the beginning of the New52 saw Darkseid invade Earth and fight the heroes that would form the Justice League.

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  95. And it's been all downhill since there. :/

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  96. To be honest, secret wars so far is awesome and much better than convergence

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  97. Global Not Much Force Wrestling

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  98. I found most of the books to be very formulaic. Not all of them, but most went something like:


    -Here's where the characters you love have been for the past year.
    -Bubble drops! Powers return! Celebrate!
    -Introduce who they're fighting. End of issue 1.
    -Issue 2: Fight! Resolution! Happy ending!


    Some didn't follow this, like Rucka's Question, but most seemed like that's what they did.

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  99. I am not making fun of you, so continuing is appropriate, and the quality of your character was not being questioned.
    If one wanted to read a standalone graphic novel of one of these stories, without needing to know a huge amount of backstory, perhaps a story culminating in a large battle involving the shooting of cosmic energy, that looked visually cool, would such a story exist?

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  100. The only books I picked up recently were stuff I found in the bargain bin:


    -Stray Bullets: Uber Alles Edition, collecting I believe all of David Lapham's crime series.
    -Sam & Max Surfin' the Highway, because I loved the games and the characters.


    If the store had had a copy, I would've picked up Greg Rucka's Lazurus Vol. 3. But it was sold out at the time.

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  101. I think Scott's point might be that you can't take a WWE jobber and immediately thrust him as a main eventer. Even TNA did the smart thing when hiring EC3 and slowly built the guy up first before turning him into a main eventer.

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  102. I didn't buy them for the plot.

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  103. Ironically enough, Thanos was created by Jim Starlin specifically to be a "Marvel version of Darkseid."

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  104. Yup, Infinity Gauntlet. And it's mostly self-contained that you wouldn't have to worry about picking anything else up to follow it. I went into it mostly blind when I originally read it and I enjoyed it.

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  105. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:26 PM

    Legion of Super Heroes: Great Darkness Saga is a pretty good one.


    Justice League: Origin is the first JL story for the New 52 and is also pretty good.


    Uh, Darkseid, or a version of him, is the big bad in Final Crisis.


    Superman/Batman: Apocalypse reintroduced Supergirl to the DCU about 10-12 years ago.

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  106. Character moments.

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  107. Shit, and you were asking about Darkseid, not Thanos. Whoops.

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  108. Which would be included with a plot.

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  109. Hey, Jamin Olivencia is still a thing.

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  110. Um, no. Plot is not the same thing as character moments.

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  111. Run in by Bobcat

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  112. You're right, it's not. But you still need a plot in order to get those character. They're not the same thing, but they go hand-in-hand.

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  113. He's pretty clearly doing it as secondary to his Japan work.

    I don't see him ever leaving and making a home in a US promotion.

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  114. I totally forgot that was them.

    Yeah, they count too.

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  115. I read that when it was current. Good story, no Darkseid.

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  116. No they don't. You can have great character moments in movies with terrible plots. For instance, Inglorious Basterds has an absolutely awful plot. But has great character moments.

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  117. Yeah, I realized that mistake and made a second comment to fix that. :)

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  118. Terrible plot or not, you still NEED a plot in order to get those moments. That's the point I'm trying to make. Otherwise, they're basically like those TF2 "Meet the" videos.

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  119. Offering options confuses me, so let's focus on the first thing that you said.
    Legion of Super Heroes: Great Darkness Saga has such a climactic battle in which beams of cosmic energy are being wielded?
    How old is the story?

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  120. Corned Biff HashJune 10, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    Thanks in large part to the development of NXT, Lucha Underground and the arrival of New Japan on American TV now, the need for a WWE alternative has waned considerably, so I honestly don't really care about Global Force Wrestling one way or another.

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  121. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:38 PM

    Great Darkness Saga was originally written in 1982, and does in fact feature a climactic battle and beams of cosmic energy are wielded, although it's been a while since I've read it and am not sure the two take place at the same time.

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  122. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    If you're looking for just an introductory Darkseid tale, with no back story needed, go with Justice League: Origins. Might be more accessible, as long as you can handle a New 52 story.

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  123. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    Climactic battles (1) and cosmic energy beams being wielded (2). I separated them.

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  124. Gotcha. I was hoping for both together... But may take the risk. I currently have the product up on amazon and may pull the trigger.

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  125. You didn't mention the original Jack Kirby Fourth World stuff? SHAME ON YOU. You're fired.

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  126. "as long as you can handle a New 52 story"
    I don't know what that means.

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  127. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    The story is considered one of the best Legion of Super Heroes stories out there, if not THE best.

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  128. Basically, how do you feel about Superman and the others acting and looking more like gritty 90s EXTREEEEME heroes?

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  129. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    No one is paying me anything.

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  130. If they have an excessive number of pockets on their outfits, and odd looking feet then I'm less interested.

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  131. Moreso with "everyone's a douche" and "everyone - including Superman - suddenly wears armor with high collars."

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  132. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:44 PM

    I've honestly never read the original Jack Kirby Fourth World stuff, so I can't recommend it.

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  133. Well story only takes you so far without beams of cosmic energy...
    But you've just made a sale. Someone's royalty cheque will be a penny or two larger this quarter.

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  134. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:46 PM

    Well, what they've actually managed to do is make Batman look strange.

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  135. Ah. I have. The art, of course, holds up because it's Kirby. The writing tends to be...overly melodramatic and dated. But the art and sheer amount of insane ideas in every issue is worth it.

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  136. If this was supposed to be a response to my comment about royalty cheques, I didn't mean you. I meant whoever collects royalty cheques on these things.
    Thank you for your time. I will read this.

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  137. Never said it was a good thing.

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  138. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    DC had a much weaker slate of books this week than last week. The only reason I made it up to 7 books is because I decided to see what they were doing with Batman in Batman and Detective Comics. Next week will be much tougher on my wallet.

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  139. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:49 PM

    Nope, it was a shot at Piers firing me.

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  140. Could be worse.

    http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2013/06/ac01.jpg

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  141. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:51 PM

    I still recommend Bizarro #1. It was such a stupid fun issue that I'm just not used to reading from DC Comics any more.

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  142. I really didn't want Jeff Jarrett to be an active wrestler when he first announced the company - but I'm pretty surprised he hasn't put himself on the card considering the shows are in Tennessee and there isn't a single draw on the roster. Not that Jarrett would add much, but this roster and line-up of matches is just pitiful.

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  143. Yeah, there's a few new titles that I'm at least curious about. That's one of them. I'm also curious about We are Robin and Prez.

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  144. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 3:53 PM

    The preview for Prez didn't really do anything for me, but I was intrigued by We Are Robin. I'll more than likely pick up both, but Prez may be a stretch.

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  145. I don't either, but his strong negative reaction to ever performing here just left me a little surprised, is all.

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  146. Mr. Perfect (ish)June 10, 2015 at 3:54 PM

    Well, I was TRYING to forget it.

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  147. That's when he was in the news for uprooting a tree to save his mother from her burning home. That kind of human interest story WITH the WWE machine behind him could have been something, but the moment has passed.

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  148. That's not my name. You're thinking of another guy.

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  149. Why did you think that I was making fun of you?

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  150. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    Just the very formal tone of your questions. It's a tone my friends would use when they're mocking me. I probably shouldn't assume everyone is as big a dick as the people I usually associate with.

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  151. He did some ROH shows last year and I think he enjoyed it. If the money's good and it's an easy but of taping, why not?

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  152. "I'm the Weasel...doing commentary...with a gorilla!"


    Sorry, but I rarely get a chance to use that line in any context.

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  153. I know I preferred the Hart show over Newhart.

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  154. I'm not by any means super knowledgeable about comics, especially DC, so can anyone recommend some good stories with Batman actually being a detective? I'm a lot more interested in that than the regular action.

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  155. Yeah, I read issue ... 1? 2? I dunno, but it was confusing and bad-ish.

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  156. Long Halloween.

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  157. Apart from Justice League 3000, Harley Quinn and Deadpool in trades I'm not really following anything current. The status quo of both DC and Marvel are changed at the whim of marketing, so I don't feel like its worth investing in anything. The collections being put out by 2000ad are still damn good.

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  158. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    Batman: Officer Down may be a good one, too.

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  159. Battle Kat LitterJune 10, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    Who remembers TNA's dancing cage girls from the early TNA Asylum days? They were nice. Jeff should try out dancing cage girls again.

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  160. Which I think is also bad news for TNA. There are so many other wrestling shows on television that they are no longer the only televised alternative. Lucha is actually set to make a big announcement that will have them in even more homes.

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  161. I don't think the idea in the WWE hypothetically bringing him back was to make him a main eventer from the jump.

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  162. That doesn't matter to me at all. Why do I care if they exist outside of what I watch. Lucha is entirely a television program and if anything I think it makes them better. I don't care if a company runs every night of the week or tapes all of their television the same night as long as the product I'm seeing is enjoyable. I don't think there is a single correlation between existing outside of television and the product you see on tv. Even promotions that have tv operate under the system of "if it didn't happen on TV it didn't happen". Outside of a handful of title changes.

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  163. Doesn't he do ROH shows? I thought I've seen his name pop on a few indy cards but maybe not. I don't really blame him as he never really got over outside of the NWA in the U.S

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  164. Cute girl at the comic store recommended Providence, the new Alan Moore book. I told her I didn't care much about super heroes and that's what she came up with. Nothing happening in it yet, but seems like it sets the groundwork for something interesting enough and I'll check out the next one.

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  165. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 10, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    Always take the recommendation of the cute girl at the comic shop, up until the point she starts talking about her boyfriend...

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  166. But if people didn't want to attend the matches in person then why even have a crowd? The whole point of the TV show used to be to make you want to see them in person. Sure, over time the appeal of the live non-televised show has changed, but these guys & gals are essentially celebrities, and if nothing else you want to be able to go see them live. This doesn't even get into the quality issues of a touring company versus a non-touring one.

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  167. Doctor FunkopolisJune 10, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    I remember when he did this big heel turn in OVW that was the worst constructed heel turn I've ever seen.

    He secretly paid off two relatively popular heels to attack a guy.

    Except the guy they attacked was Joey Mercury, who was the top heel at the time. Mercury was regularly beating up the announcer with cerebral palsy.

    It was ridiculous.

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  168. Worst_in_the_WorldJune 10, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Wow, this show might actually get zero people.

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  169. I only ever saw him in there a few times......he'd usually just talk to a few people he knew, and then leave again. Didnt really have enough experiences with him to form either a negative or positive opinion.

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  170. Whoa tell me more...

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  171. Many Deaths of Batman

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  172. You're not getting it.

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  173. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    On a brighter note, Bobby Eaton and Stan Lane were another new Midnight Express...they did OK for themselves...

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  174. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    Yeah that's the thing...if you're harmless to him, he will be like that. But if you dare criticize or stand up for yourself, forget it. I still got the emails with the incidents I speak of.

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  175. Funny, that's what I was thinking about saying to you.

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  176. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    Jessica is one of the former, or I riot.

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  177. You'd be wrong though.

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  178. It's all part of the plan, guys.


    Jarret tapes a few shows, gains interest, but loses a ton of money. Then the naive daughter of a billionaire will come in, buy out the company, and propel the promotion to super...


    oh wait. crap. that didn't work the first time.

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  179. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    Prob. wouldn't work, as it would have to be WWE staging it. This and the Stacy on DWTS situations show that "Not WWE's Idea = No Push" does extend to the outside world too.

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  180. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    GWF was better. Even the Grey Pierson era!!!!!

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  181. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    Still one more than TNA.

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  182. James M. FabianoJune 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM

    Will the Campbell Twins run in during this match? And Jay Johnson and his puppet?

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  183. Agreed. It was a specific situation that needed to be capitalized on immediately for it to matter, and required the WWE machine behind it (like a sitdown interview with Cole, video packages, etc)

    Unfortunately that moment has passed

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  184. This reminds me of when you start a game in EWR and you create your own cult-level promotion, and you stock it up with all the 50-60 overall wrestlers that are in the free agent list.

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  185. *shrug* If that's what you want to believe. Character moments need a story around them in order to be remotely meaningful.

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  186. It was also during a really hot period for wrestling. I remember seeing advertisements for it and being excited, cause I'd just started watching older stuff and being way into Jake Roberts (he was also the first wrestling figure I got), but my dad wouldn't let me order it.

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  187. Didn't someone try to start a wrestling promotion that was going to operate like a tv show? With seasonal arcs and everything? What ever happened to that?

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  188. This muchacho gets it. Everything about lucha is new, different, and awesome.

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  189. No they don't. That's the whole point. I do like that you're arguing with me about why I enjoyed the books though.

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  190. I'd rather watch these twins then Hermanas Bellas.

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  191. Zybzyco and Funk?

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  192. Are you talking about the comic book series, the relationship with the cute girl, or both?

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