Thursday, June 11, 2015

Smackdown - June 11, 2015

Smackdown
Date: June 11, 2015
Location: CajunDome, Lafayette, Louisiana
Commentators: Byron Saxton, Tom Phillips, Jerry Lawler

Reviewed by Tommy Hall

It's the last show before we get to Money in the Bank, meaning it's the last time we have to cram an entire pay per view build into two weeks for a very long time. The big story coming out of Monday is Ambrose using Instagram (just go with it) to warn Rollins that he was coming, only to lay Seth out again to end the show. Let's get to it.


Opening sequence.

Here's Ambrose, wearing a ton of Mardi Gras beads, coming through the crowd to open things up. He holds up the title and says let the good times roll because he's been having a good time on Bourbon Street. Ambrose takes us through the Instagram pictures from Monday, thankfully pointing out that the ticket wasn't real and that Reigns just saved him a seat. After a clip of the main event from Raw, Ambrose promises to drop Seth on his head with Dirty Deeds and take the World Title for real this Sunday.

Cue Rollins who says Ambrose is just like all the other scum in this arena: not in his league. Rollins wants the title back and Dean drops it right in the middle of the ring. The champ picks it up but realizes it's just a replica because the title is somewhere between here and New Orleans. Dean: “It's been a blurry few days. It still feels like Tuesday to me.” Kane comes out and brings up Mercury and Noble beating Rollins on Monday when he was all alone. Tonight he gets to be alone all over again against Dolph Ziggler. As usual, Ambrose and Rollins have a great promo when people just leave them alone.

Ryback vs. Miz

Non-title. Miz bails to the floor to take off the sunglasses and has his sunset flip attempt countered by having his head slammed into the mat. A ridiculous 26 seconds vertical suplex sends Miz outside again but he throws Ryback over the announcers' table as we take a break. Back with Ryback fighting out of a chinlock and hitting a backpack Stunner. A powerslam gets two for the champ but Miz kicks him in the head to set up the Figure Four.

That goes nowhere (just like always because it's a horrible move for Miz to use) as Ryback powers out, only to take a short DDT for two more. The threat of a Meat Hook sends Miz to the floor but Ryback runs him down out there just as easily. Back in and Shell Shock is countered into the Skull Crushing Finale for two and Miz is stunned. Ever the genius, Miz tries a Meat Hook of his own but takes the real thing, setting up Shell Shock to give the champion the pin at 7:44.

Rating: C. This was fine for what it was and served the purpose of giving Ryback a nice win. Miz is settling into this midcard role as he loses his matches but is able to talk himself right back into being hated all over again due to pure delusion. Ryback vs. Big Show isn't going to be anything great but at least the Shell Shock at the end will be good. Assuming of course WWE doesn't feel the need to feed someone else to Big Show for reasons I'll never fathom.

Post match here's Big Show who says he doesn't impress easily with over twenty years of experience (not quite as he debuted in October 1995). The Shell Shock was fine on Monday but this Sunday ends with one of these right hands. He's holding up his left hand but close enough. Ryback says he'll have the fans in his corner on Sunday so bring it right now, little man. As expected, Show turns him down.

Tough Enough finalists, including former OVW TV Champion Michael Hayes (not that Michael Hayes. This one only has one leg).

Jack Swagger vs. King Barrett

R-Truth is on commentary before his pre-show match with Barrett on Sunday and has decided that he should be King after beating Barrett recently. He also thinks he's in the ladder match on Sunday. Barrett stomps Jack down in the corner to start as Truth puts on the robe. The distraction breaks up the Bullhammer and Jack nails a big clothesline on the floor followed by a Vader Bomb for two. The Patriot Lock is broken up and the Bullhammer gives Barrett the pin at 2:23.

Truth has disappeared.

More Tough Enough finalists.

We recap the Bellas' Twin Magic from a few weeks back and Paige being sick of the whole thing.

Alicia Fox yells at Paige and there's going to be a match later. I really wish WWE would mix up this kind of thing. We're long past the suspension of disbelief that a package on the Divas would air then there just happened to be a camera on Paige when Fox came up to challenge her. All you need is to say this happened earlier in the day.

This week's sitdown interview is with Lana, who says she and Dolph read books together and talk about things. Rusev comes in again and says don't ruin this. Ziggler has been with a bunch of other women but Rusev has only been with her. Lana says it's over and leaves so Rusev scares Cole away.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Seth Rollins

Non-title and Seth is on his own. The champ takes it to the mat with a headlock but Ziggler counters into an armbar to send Seth to the ropes. Back to the headlock on Dolph for a bit before the threat of a superkick sends Rollins out to the floor. They're still in first gear here as Rollins takes a breather. Back in and Dolph hammers away in the corner, only to get caught in an electric chair for two. The standard chinlock kills some time as the fans want Lana. Speak for yourselves. I don't want her and Ziggler anywhere near each other.

Dolph fights up and a Cactus Clothesline puts both guys outside, where Rollins catapults him over the barricade as we take a break. We come back with Ziggler slugging away until Rollins drops him with a Sling Blade for two. Well at least it wasn't another chinlock. Ziggler comes back with a backdrop to put Rollins on the floor, followed by the running DDT for two. The Buckle Bomb is countered into a rollup for two and the Fameasser gets the same. Dolph keeps speeding things up and goes to the top for a high cross body but Rollins rolls through and grabs the trunks for the pin at 13:53.

Rating: B-. Nice main event style match here with Rollins getting the kind of a win he should be getting. Ziggler doesn't lose anything either and everyone comes out looking fine. It's very nice to see them breaking from the same pattern that they've been having for months for Rollins as it was getting repetitive.

Remember the two times we've seen Tough Enough finalists already? Make it three.

Paige vs. Alicia Fox

Paige takes her down to start and cranks on a reverse chinlock for a bit before Fox takes her down and puts on a chinlock. They aren't exactly dishing out the creativity. At least Fox adds in some knees to the head to mix things up. A big boot to the face gets two on Paige but she snaps Fox's throat across the ropes. This is her house, which makes me wonder how much a Diva makes since Paige must have 40 houses around the country. The PTO makes Fox tap at 4:46.

Rating: D. They did a good enough job of making Paige look good going into Sunday but I don't buy her as having a chance at taking the title because All Hail the Bellas. It didn't help that the match was nearly half chinlock. You really shouldn't need two of those in a match that doesn't last five minutes.

Long recap of Owens vs. Cena to set up the rematch on Sunday. The first match was great and I really hope Owens just walks out on the second because he has nothing to gain.

The Prime Time Players say they're like butter because they're on a roll. Whole wheat and gluten free that is. They incorporate the clap into the Millions of Dollars dance and even Renee joins in.

Final batch of Tough Enough finalists, including the Big O.

Roman Reigns/Randy Orton/Neville vs. Sheamus/Kane/Kofi Kingston

Those are quite the interesting teams. Reigns decks Kofi to start before Neville comes in and eats a right hand to the face. Neville flips over Sheamus and tags in Orton, because we haven't seen Orton vs. Sheamus enough lately. The good guy keeps control for a bit until a Kane distraction lets Sheamus nail a tilt-a-whirl powerslam to take over. Back from a break with Orton fighting out of Sheamus' chinlock.

The lukewarm tag brings in Neville to clean house with his variety of kicks but Kane breaks up the Red Arrow. Kane comes back in for some weak stomping and a big side slam for two as this isn't exactly inspiring stuff so far. Kofi comes back in to fire the New Day up again with Woods declaring him the greatest of all time. A dropkick gets two and Woods says he's getting annihilated right now. Sheamus gets two of his own off the Irish Curse and it's off to the chinlock.

Neville avoids a charge into the post though and it's a hot tag to Reigns, who runs Kofi over in a hurry. The New Day is easily dispatched but Kane counters a Superman Punch with a chokeslam, which earns Kane an RKO, followed by a Brogue Kick, followed by a dropkick from Neville, followed by Trouble in Paradise. Reigns is back up though and the Superman Punch connects to Kofi, only to have the New Day come in for the DQ at 13:25.

Rating: C-. This was boring. That's the best word I can come up with for it. We were sitting around and waiting on the big parade of finishers to close things out and it eventually came and went. It's not a terrible match or even bad but I never came close to being interested in what was going on.

Reigns takes a Midnight Hour and it's ladder time. Cue Dolph with a ladder of his own but Neville climbs the ladder and dives onto everyone who was nice enough to brawl right beneath him. Neville pulls down the briefcase to end the show.

Overall Rating: C. Totally average show here as they talked up the pay per view a bit but didn't do much to make me care about what I was seeing. Money in the Bank is a show that sells itself with the big ladder match and it gets very difficult to build towards it as the singles matches and tags don't change anything. As for the rest, it was just a standard Smackdown: watchable wrestling, nothing important, two hours gone.

Results
Ryback b. Miz – Shell Shock
King Barrett b. Jack Swagger – Bullhammer
Seth Rollins b. Dolph Ziggler – Rollins rolled through a cross body and held Ziggler's trunks
Paige b. Alicia Fox – PTO
Roman Reigns/Randy Orton/Neville b. Sheamus/Kane/Kofi Kingston via DQ when New Day interfered



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139 comments:

  1. The only thing notable about Smackdown are the injuries that happen.

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  2. I know it would probably be one of the dumbest finishes in the history of WWE, and that covers some ground, but "gooooood R-truth" is so captivating it almost makes me want to see him crash the ladder match, steal the briefcase, and act like he won it while the rest of the match participants look on in pure bewilderment.

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  3. Not totally crazy. That would be a great way for Lesnar to get his hands on it. He can show up the next night, murder Truth and just fucking take it.

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  4. Is it just me or does Dolphins suddenly feel...kinda dated?

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  5. kbwrestlingreviewsJune 11, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    It's not suddenly for me. He's basically been the same guy for the last few years. He's there, you know what you're getting from him, and that's it. He had a nice run in November/December of last year and then it's right back where he was before.

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  6. kbwrestlingreviewsJune 11, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    I'd be happy if anyone got rid of that thing. I'm sick of seeing it, especially just three months after the last cash in.

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  7. Robinson TilapiaJune 11, 2015 at 8:28 PM

    Yeah....I have zero desire to watch him right now. I find myself wishing they'd just give his roster spot to Tyler Breeze.

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  8. He fits the mold of MVP from a few years ago, and Shelton before him where he would be so much more enjoyable if he went a did a run with ROH or Japan. Unfortunately, if he gets released I feel he is more likely to go the way Morrison did when he left and try to make it in comedy first.

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  9. He comes across as a massive loser and dresses like an eight year old Cena fan. Also what is he meant to be showing off about? He can barely win a match.

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  10. It doesn't have anything to do with whether he wins or loses. I think Dolph is a guy who it doesn't really matter if he wins or not, and in fact an argument could be made that he's better off losing more than he wins. (After all, whether or not I think he's dated, he remains crazy over.)

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  11. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 11, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    What's the point of making matches non-title if the champ wins? Why not just, you know, let the champ successfully defend the title?

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  12. Because the challenger isn't worthy of a title shot?

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  13. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 11, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    Then he shouldn't be wrestling the champ at all.

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  14. You didn't watch squash matches in the eighties, did you?

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  15. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 11, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    This isn't the 80s.

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  16. So it was alright for champs to fight nontitle matches back then, but not now?

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  17. Unfortunate that they couldn't squeeze in an opening RIP In Memoriam for Dusty Rhodes here. I assume that's because the show was completely in the can already, because WWE.com and the Network have been paying tribute to him all day.

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  18. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 11, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    It's not fair to even compare the two. And Dolph isn't some jobber, if he's going to wrestle the champ and lose then just make it a title match. And if Cena is having a title match every week then Ryback can do his matches for the title too.


    I just hate non-title matches to begin with though. I don't mind if it's the classic "guy beats the champ in a non title match match to earn a title match" thing that's been done in wrestling forever, but otherwise either do title matches or put the champ in a tag match or something.

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  19. The time to make something out of him was Survivor Series, but the fact that the Authority came back three weeks later while Ziggler was literally in the exact same spot on the card doing the exact same shit was a breaking point for a lot of people.

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  20. Problem is that Ambrose has stolen the WHC title, and acted like he won it recently - not to mention he, Truth and some others did the exact same thing with the IC belt before that (and if memory serves, the MitB case before that) so the stealing thing is getting really overused now...

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  22. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 12:59 AM

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  23. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:00 AM

    I cannot believe no one has complained yet. Impossible.

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  24. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:00 AM

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  25. All right. That's it. I'm out. Anyone proclaiming any serving of candy to be too big can fuck right off.

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  26. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:01 AM

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  27. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:02 AM

    Hoss tried, but no one is lhosstening

    Right>

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  28. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:02 AM

    I feel like this is your burden now

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  29. Corned Biff HashJune 12, 2015 at 1:03 AM

    Words hurt, pal.

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  30. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:03 AM

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  31. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:03 AM

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  32. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:04 AM

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  33. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:04 AM

    How's Community going?

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  34. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:05 AM

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  35. uh...a picture is worth a thousand words?

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  36. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:05 AM

    You really are a mothafucka, mothafucka.

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  37. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:06 AM

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  38. Wasn't a complaint as much as a slight bitching.

    Oh, wait, I was out, wasn't I?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZh_dfuqQUo

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  39. Corned Biff HashJune 12, 2015 at 1:07 AM

    There is a delicious irony to using that guy here, but I'll say no more.

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  40. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:07 AM

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  41. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:08 AM

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  42. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:09 AM

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  43. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:09 AM

    How annoying lol

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  44. Corned Biff HashJune 12, 2015 at 1:11 AM

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  45. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:11 AM

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  46. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:12 AM

    Now that we've killed the thread I agree lol

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  47. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:13 AM

    Truly a plague on the Blog.

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  48. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:13 AM

    Haha, we tucked some people in tonight lmao

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  49. Wow, so championships are now decided with a 2-2 tie? Huh.......


    Gosh dang, you're probably the type of guy not to ask a girl out because she might say no.

    Dude, I'm a HUGE San Francisco Giants fan. My boys were on the brink of elimination TWICE during the 2012 post season run. Down 0-2 in the NLDS, came back to win. Down 1-3 in the NLCS, came back to win. Then tore shit up in the world series.

    It's not over Debbie.

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  50. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:15 AM

    We shut 'em up and then we shut 'em down.

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  51. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:15 AM

    I'm far to wasted for her to me home in ten minutes, tonight isn't going to be great, she'll get mad and I'll start doing Dusty, I can already see it in my head movies

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  52. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:16 AM

    Tho Thad you had bad night behbeh

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  53. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:17 AM

    Thu ride on the muthaship was dethember beheh thith ith the landing lmao

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  54. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:18 AM

    Ith goeth like theeee-uuuuss daddy and I'm not going to say ith twithh(Jim Crockett Promotionsthhhhhh!!!) lithen here behbeh Amahkin Dream

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  55. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:18 AM

    Holy Moses she's gonna clip you.

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  56. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:18 AM

    Haha, that would get me fired immediathly

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  57. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:20 AM

    Yup I'm gonna go pretend I did this for the last two hours, trickerthy

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  58. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:20 AM

    This is the landing. Jesus H. Cringe lol.

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  59. Charlton CrestonJune 12, 2015 at 1:20 AM

    I am so fucking proud dude lmao

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  60. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 12, 2015 at 1:21 AM

    Yeah, ya might should lol.

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  61. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 12, 2015 at 1:21 AM

    Fuckin walk to the store and it starts fucking pouring.


    Weather can eat shit.

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  62. Dustin has really taken great care of himself.

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  63. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 12, 2015 at 1:23 AM

    "In love" might be pushing it, but it's Perfectly Acceptable Music.

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  64. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 12, 2015 at 1:25 AM

    That and "Shadow of the Sun" are pretty much the only good songs.

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  65. I'm laughing out loud at this. And yeah, peanut butter and chocolate together is amazing.

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  66. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 12, 2015 at 1:34 AM

    THANK YOU! And I'm pretty sure they are the one animal that does NOTHING to help the ecosystem. Bees at least pollinate shit, mosquitoes are not only completely fucking useless, but actively harmful. Fun fact: mosquitoes have killed more people than every other animal combined.

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  67. The ONLY reason I wouldn't doom them all to some foul-smelling hell is that I'm sure some species eats them to live. I'd hate to destroy the food chain, so I must endure these bitches, it seems. Another fun fact: only female mosquitoes bite and suck blood.

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  68. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 12, 2015 at 1:41 AM

    Fucking broads. Always the fucking broads.

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  69. Dude's a little version of Billy Gunn, the Mr Ass Billy Gunn, with a whinny voice and even whinnier attitude.
    WWE should just fire his ass, he adds nothing besides giving me a headache.

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  70. I'm with you on this one. Title matches should be earned.

    Every non title match should also hold the stipulation that beating the champion warns you a title shot--but still the champion should almost never lose.

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  71. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 4:37 AM

    Wrong. If we're calling him a Pippen then who was Jordan? It wasn't Wade or Bosch, that's for sure.

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  72. Wade is the Jordan. Dude lead his team to a championship without help from other superstars.

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  73. TheOriginalDonaldJune 12, 2015 at 5:14 AM

    Amy Schumer thinks so!

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  74. Chris Heston has a glorious record that will probably stand throughout our lifetimes: Most Beanballs in a No-Hitter.

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  75. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 5:51 AM

    Um...Shaq??? Now this is getting silly.

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  76. Shaq? OK... if you believe that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar lead the Lakers to titles in the late 80's, then I suppose you could make the case for Shaq too.

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  77. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 6:18 AM

    I didn't say Shaq was the leader. *You* said, "Dude lead his team to a championship without help from other superstars." Which is fundamentally wrong. He had Shaq.

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  78. Bow Ties Are CoolJune 12, 2015 at 6:25 AM

    It reminds me of the Don Drysdale saying: "why throw four pitches when you only need to throw one?"

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  79. I like most of their first album.

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  80. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 6:36 AM

    #BARRETTWINSLOL

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  81. They play it just about in full on Fall Brawl 94 I believe.

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  82. Undertaker didn't do one single solitary promo about the streak, what it meant to him, and what he was gonna do next. That was so lame.

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  83. He lit a chair on fire!

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  84. 2014 killed some time though, I'll say that for it. You can't say they didn't kill a bit of time.

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  85. I just wish one fucking time a heel champion would be someone who is able to beat guys because of how great he is and is extremely fucking cocky about it like a Deion Sanders. Instead we always get Honky Tonk Man version 443343322

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  86. "So weird all around."



    Business as usual, then.

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  87. There were some things that happened that's for sure. And some stuff.

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  88. Oh the '04 Pistons sweep either of these teams, but yeah it's all style here. Cleveland must do the poor man's version of what the Pistons did.

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  89. Well, there was Brock. But you're right about Seth.

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  90. HHH was treated like that. He could beat anyone, but just placed obstacles in their way to make it that much harder. Hence playing the game.

    It was brilliant because it allowed him to show ass sometimes, but still be a legit champion.

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  91. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 7:06 AM

    "High-octane church fart."


    Some people are just natural born writers.

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  92. KO seems to be headed in that direction. I think that's why he's resonating as well as he is. (In addition to promos, in ring skill, etc.)

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  93. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 7:15 AM

    See, this would be one of those times where TripleS would come out from underneath his bridge and tell us how it doesn't matter what they did with Lesnar, because he isn't a draw or something.


    I'm already missing that gigantic turd.

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  94. That's your solution to everything, isn't it Taker. Light a chair on fire.

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  95. The old timers would argue that the heel is always supposed to cheat and look weak. When Triple H dominated like he did people seemed to hate it.

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  96. It's also only true if you stopped watching wrestling on Jan. 25, because just about everything Reigns has done since the Rumble has been pretty great.

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  97. Yes. It would be one of those times, because every single comment put on the boards is one of those times, because that's the whole point of a troll account.

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  98. it does take a while for Scott to get to emails, this may have been written several months back

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  99. cheating is different. Cheating makes you look smart. HHH at least hit people with a sledgehammer when things got tough. And that made him look like a bad ass, and that's the whole point.

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  100. I still have that fresh post-troll flushing feeling. It's nice and chill.

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  101. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 7:20 AM

    Belee dis....people can dislike what Roman Reigns has done since Jan. 25th. It's not an absolutely crazy idea.


    I personally am not the least bit offended by Reigns. He's just kind of boring to me. I can see the other side though.


    Mainly, I was commenting on "high-octane church fart" because it's a great line.

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  102. I went and read the final exchange of TripleS's career this morning. I'm amazed he thought he could get away with just outright insulting Scott directly like that. I'm sure he thinks he's a free speech martyr.

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  103. But then the WWE would be admitting that wins and losses DO matter

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  104. What I find interesting is that very few people on the board seemed to have a problem with Reigns. Just that he wasn't quite ready yet, but that by WM32 he probably WOULD be ready. And I'm feeling like he's continuing in that direction.

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  105. Agreed, but that's also part of the problem. Owens is resonating so well that he's virtually a face. In the post-Austin world, booking a heel to be an ass-kicker makes fans want to cheer him. I agree that the idea of every heel champion having to be a chicken shit is way played out, but I understand their reluctance to book heels as bad asses.

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  106. He didn't even look/point at the sign, did he?

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  107. Unluckily for him, freedom of speech in the US simply means that barring certain things, the government wouldn't arrest him for making disparaging comments. No idea how it works in Canada of course. I'm assuming it has something to do with moose playing hockey or something, but who knows.

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  108. I wish we had a Flair type heel again. He would throw his goons at the faces to keep them away but back him into a corner and he could still outwrestle them or cheat to win on his own. In other words, he wanted every advantage he could get and he didn't relish the idea of going one on one with in an equal situation but he wasn't a total chickenshit.

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  109. Which is fine. I long for a world where heels just do heelish things, faces do face things, and everyone cheers or boos whoever they damn well please.

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  110. "WM31" was a really good show, Brock/Reigns was a really good match, and the audience was really into Rollins' cash-in... but I can't help but feel that the wonky ending killed off what could have been an even bigger angle.

    Brock breaks the streak, steamrolls Cena, and hold the title hostage for months. Brock was an absolute monster heel, and there was a great story to be had of someone finally slaying the beast and giving him his comeuppance. That's what they were trying to do with Reigns, but the backlash was too great and, IMO, was also too soon to do that story (I definitely think it should have waited until at least "Summerslam").

    So now, we have this guy built up as an unbeatable monster, and then he loses the title in wonky fashion. As good as "WM" was, it all meant nothing the next night. Rollins is booked like a joke, the whole "in-fighting within the heel authority stable" is BEYOND stale,

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  111. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 7:31 AM

    You're not telling me I hate Reigns. I like the cut of your jib.

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  112. I don't disagree with that either, I just don't think Vince shares that vision.

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  113. I do try to keep my jib trimmed. My girlfriend actually prefers it that way.

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  114. Didn't even look at the sign!

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  115. To be fair, if you sign a guy to a deal for like 3 matches a year and 16 total appearances, how do you mention him when he's not around?

    "And this week, we understand that Brock Lesnar will, once again, not be here."

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  116. My favorite match of all time is the Ironman match from Judgment Day 2000. He sends his whole crew to the back before the match, says he has to do it by himself. Then he heels his ass off for 60 minutes.

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  117. It works for everyone. Bane beat Batman by doing that very thing in Knightfall.

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  118. Like a golf swing, it's all about follow through. They booked him for one day after Wrestlemania Click Button? Have him tear assing around for three Raws before getting suspended, then have Heyman come out on the fourth Raw and give a we'll be back promo. It's not rocket science. It's barely even geological science.

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  119. Did he ever realize that Scott, you know, runs this place? At times I got the impression he didn't. Or he was trying to be a tough guy maybe.

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  120. Good point. They could do a satellite interview or something tho. At least to let him vent about getting effed at mania. or as mentioned already having him get "suspended" angle would have been good to. if they didn't want to use a brock date, at least have paulie talking about how pissed brock is and how its over for everyone once he gets back.

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  121. So if Brock challenges Rollins the night after WM and Rollins bails, how do you get Lesnar to stop destroying things? Why does he choose to leave? Why does the WWE allow him back in the next week?

    It made perfect sense that a furious Lesnar wanted a rematch, was given a rematch, the champion bailed and Lesnar directed his fury at everything that moved in an unstoppable rage until he got suspended.

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  122. kbwrestlingreviewsJune 12, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    Yeah I was already halfway through this (Canadian feed) when the news broke. There was no way.

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  123. I feel you could have drawn out Brock's final meltdown is all. Why would HHH just give him the rematch that first night.

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  124. I find him boring. I don't see the character and just don't care. So I've moved from disliking him to not giving a shit. I also don't watch Raw unless I see something here that is can't miss (Owens/Cena)

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  125. They certainly killed an hour of my Wednesday evening time per week. Plus the occasional block of time on Sunday. But I enjoyed all of that.

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  126. I have a friend who once sang that part when it was on. We still reference/make fun of it.

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  127. Nah, then that awful Kid Rock concert at 25 would still be shown.

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  128. They should have just had Brock walk out of Wrestlemania as champion. Nobody wanted to see Reigns win, but they'd built him up to the point where it looked like he was going to - so there's another "can anyone stop Lesnar?" when he beats Reigns. They can always start rehabbing Reigns after the loss, which they've been trying to do since anyway. Rollins isn't doing anything with the title he couldn't do without it, and he literally doesn't have it at the moment anyway.


    Is Brock going to be a face now since he was cheated out of the title? Either way the simple story line of Brock dominating until someone straight up beats him is out the window.

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  129. If they treated his matches like athletic contests that were scheduled in advance they just say he's off training for his next match. But then he wouldn't be there to tell stories about cementing legacies and being the face of the company and whatnot.

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  130. I mean, sure. Anyone can dislike whoever they want. But I think a huge part of any post-Rumble criticism of Reigns is largely colored by people having already made up their minds and not being open to new information changing said minds. I was as annoyed as anyone about his push and Rumble win, but he's been really fucking good ever since.

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  131. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!June 12, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    He's improved in the ring, and he's still meh on the mic. I wouldn't be of the opinion that he's been "really fucking good." I think that's a bit of a stretch, but again, that's just my opinion.


    He's certainly nowhere near the worst choice for tippy top guy.


    Fuck's sake, we had to live with Miz for like 6 months or some shit.

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  132. He's had a few really good promos but he's not consistently up there with Rollins or Ambrose on the mic yet, for sure.

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  133. I never mind when someone rebuts something I say because I may be factually incorrect, or they just have a different opinion, but TripleS's thing seemed to be to chastise you for even having an opinion, then offering his opinion even though his criticism of you would equally apply to himself. That, or just simply belittling someone for having an opinion; or being contrary for the sake of being contrary--even admitting he's of the sane opinion, just F-U for having said it. His trolling reminded me of Vince Jordan at times.

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  134. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 12, 2015 at 9:15 AM

    Once WCW imploded and there was no more competition, I wish they would have gone to this sort of formula anyway. Slow the touring down, let guys go a little longer between big matches. Not necessarily back to jobbers on every TV show, but just let guys go more than a week between wrestling on the big stage.


    Problem with the Brock idea is you try to build that "Big Fight" feel by having the one monster guy away for months "training", while you have other guys pulling double duty on Raw or wrestling on TV several times a week. In kayfabe it makes it like "why can John Cena make an open challenge every week" or "why does wrestle every week", but the most dominant guy needs to take months off to train for his next match?


    Once they split the brands, I think they could have really let the combination of monopoly and roster depth benefit the wrestlers. Decrease the travel, decrease the wrestling workload, etc.

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  135. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 12, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    He will be back. Vince Jordan always comes back

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  136. "It's been a blurry few days. It still feels like Tuesday to me."



    Aha! I see what you did there, Dean!

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