Sunday, June 28, 2015

Trading places

Hey Scott,

I wonder why these oh-so-many stale/buried/worthless under- and midcarders don't get cut or send off to NXT. Talking about Swagger, Barrett, Fandango, Matadores, Rose, Slater, Rosa, Layla etc. Also guys like Santino, Otunga or Maddox who seemingly get paid for nothing!? At least Christian could help out in developmental or sth

Meanwhile Tyler Breeze, Charlotte, Enzo/Cass or Sasha Banks are ready to freshen things up, plus they already feuded with most on NXT...why aren't they getting called up? Vince not caring? HHH wants to keep 'em to keep NXT strong? No storyline ideas?

Best wishes


It's more that WWE doesn't want any of those guys going somewhere where they can be a threat, so it's basically a bigger savings to pay them now and keep them quiet than it would be to let them go and possibly jumpstart a Lucha Underground, I think.  Look at how much it took to get Del Rio fired, for example, or especially Rey Mysterio.  And yeah, since the midcard is all clogged up with these guys, there's no spots to call up the NXT guys to replace them, and things remain stale.  ​

316 comments:

  1. Interesting. Perhaps some of these "leaked" reports of midcard guys not being happy in their spots are negotiation tactics.

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  2. > Look at how much it took to get Del Rio fired


    It doesn't sound like it took much at all.

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  3. not sure some of those names match up. Stale is a relative term but Swagger and Barrett in particular are FAR from worthless. And the crowds love Santino for years. He was a comedy guy who was happy doing his comedy thing. He didn't rock the boat and according to Jericho's latest book, he was one of the most well liked guys in the locker room.


    Nothing wrong with having guys with some name recognition that can do jobs or in the case of Barrett or Swagger could win the IC title or tag titles tomorrow without anyone batting an eye.

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  4. A perfectly justified reaction to a racist asshole is very little.

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  5. probably are. It's hard work to make a living similar to "midcard WWE" on the indie circuit. Making your own bookings and travel, no fall back office to use when you might have issues. Even the so-called larger indies like TNA, GWF, Lucha underground, or ROH are like ECW in the 90s. You make them a priority, but you don't make a living just off that. Wrestlers are no different than the mid level schlub at Crappy products Inc. You punch in, you punch out, you take your paycheck and unless you have something lined up that is a guaranteed better check at Crappier Products Assembly, you punch in and out everyday.

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  6. I think Heath Slater jumping to GFW could really take them to the next level.

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  7. It's an interesting point but the audience is so trained. I remember being JARRED by the ending of a couple Verne Gagne matches on the AWA DVD set where they just seemingly ended out of nowhere with a pin. I've seen a few other matches like that on old house shows on the classics on demand service. Matches that went for 20 or 30 minutes suddenly ended with a benign knee to the chest followed up by a 3 count. So in theory I like the idea of surprise endings but in reality I've been so trained that I'm not sure how much I like them. That said, even in UFC, guys have pet moves. And the big punchers do their best to finish with big punches, so it's not that illogical to see the Bret Harts and Scott Halls doing the same moves each match, because they have proven to work for those guys and it's not illogical to see guys go for their finishers because those have been proven to work.

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  8. I feel like basically this post boils down to -- the WWE would be a lot more exciting if it even just paid lip service to the idea that it's a sport. Which is true, it'd make it a much more interesting and substantial product to follow if it wasn't completely neutered and awash in the vanilla tones of 'Sports Entertainment'.

    Vince really did realize his dream to make it like "the world class entertainment" he always believed he was competing with and not other wrestling programs. It is McDonalds, it is Disneyland. It is the

    Ice Capades. It's predictable and hollow, what you see is what you get and no surprises.

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  9. From what I've read, hasn't Lucha Underground been a pretty big money loser and their future is also uncertain?

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  10. The problem is that wrestling has been so overexposed to the point that everyone knows it's a work, so sadly they can't treat it like a real sport anymore and do quick finishes because the fans will feel ripped off because they see it as a show instead of a real competition; it would be akin to putting on a magician act and having it end after three tricks.

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  11. Being racist is legal justification for assault

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  12. It's technically self-defense, as the jagoff in question struck first with bigoted nonsense.

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  13. They need to make people care who wins before they'll care when/how they win.

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  14. Daily reminder Hornswoggle is still an active WWE roster member. 3320 days since his debut.

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  15. I say it all the time, but bring back the frickin' Brand Split!


    Instantly you have two individual shows (as well as NXT) in which your packed roster can breathe a little, and you lessen the risk of your almost-top (as the truly top guys don't do Smackdown) guys being injured or burnt out, you lessen everyone's travel a little bit and generally you give fans a reason to actually tune into Smackdown at all.


    It also means the NXT guys and gals who are called up can be put where they fit best - if (as was once the case) Smackdown is the 'technical wrestling' show and Raw is the 'wild storylines' show, then place the call-ups accordingly.


    Was just watching Summerslam 2002 today and I loved the way the two brands had alternating matches with their own commentators (another bonus there - mixes it up a bit) and, by extension, their own time to breathe and develop. It felt like every match had a genuine build and reason for being on the card. When do you get to say that about a WWE PPV lately?


    TLDR; bring back the brand split, use the full roster of talent!

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  16. Oh, and speaking of watching Summerslam 2002 on the Network, can anyone tell me why the Intercontinental Belt is blurred out?

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  17. I don't agree that the roster glut is going to keep the NXT guys from shining. Wondering why the Lucha Dragons, Bo Dallas or Adam Rose aren't working out would be like wondering why a 3-star basketball recruit isn't as good as a freshman at Kentucky. Neville immediately went to a good spot. He might not be getting a rocket push but he's solidly in the midcard, he's always on TV and PPV and he's over. No one stopped Owens from going straight to the top. No one's gonna stand in Finn's way, and Sami had debuted in a big way before a terribly timed injury.

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  18. That reasoning only holds up in court if you shot him and you're in Florida.

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  19. The end of the brand split was a USA call, not a WWE call. They wanted as many top names on Raw as possible. I

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  20. The WWE style today is completely sterile and follows the same formula. In big matches It consists of:
    -Poor and confusing selling of moves.
    -Multiple finisher kick outs
    -Nearfalls with shocking reactions of the wrestler not getting the pin.
    -BOO/YAH PUNCHES (especially with Cena matches)
    -Submissions are practically dead. A wrestler's signature submission has to be put on several times before even the through of a submission could happen.
    -Finishers are getting close to being dead. Lesnar throws out F5s like they are punches.
    -TONS OF DEAD TIME.


    Some will disagree and that is fine, but I find the Owens/Cena matches to be the example of this. The matches start off fine, but once they start to get to the end it is a mess. Hit a big move, near fall, look shocked, lay around for a few minutes, then do a few transitions until they get to the next big move/near fall.


    They are great matches with the formula, but not so great as pro-wrestling matches.

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  21. I would assume so. They are only getting 100k viewers. Can't imagine the talent costs aren't killing them.

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  22. Matches not ending on a distraction roll-up or a bunch of inishers and near-misses to finishers would freshen things up immensily.

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  23. Old WWF logo. And it must be the DVD release they didn't bother edit out the blurring.

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  24. The brands are split; WWE and NXT.


    All NXT needs is a supercard to build to the year around. And given recent events, bringing back STARRCADE as their big event would do the trick.

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  25. I'm starting to feel like all the homegrown NXT guys aren't doing as well as those guys that came in witha bunch of experience.

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  26. They could bring up the entire NXT roster tomorrow, it's what the booking team will do to the group that is our problem.

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  27. The "near-miss to finisher" is such an easy way to keep a feud going, especially since WWE insists on matching guys together show after show for weeks on end. Simply have a feud where one wrestler just keeps avoiding or countering the other guy's finisher to eke out wins, leading to Wrestler B getting more and more frustrated and continually demanding rematches. It creates an actual reason for a drawn-out feud, makes Wrestler A look strong for winning and even Wrestler B doesn't look all that bad since the implication would be that he'd win if he could ever hit his big move.

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  28. The whole "fighting words" concept is pretty interesting. I like the idea that if some piece of trash pops off with an n-bomb he can be summarily popped in the mouth.

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  29. In Bret's case, while he worked his 'five moves of doom' into most of his matches, it's also worth noting that he finished surprisingly few of his biggest wins with a Sharpshooter. Only one of his five WWE title wins came via Sharpshooter (the first one over Flair), only his first IC title win (over Perfect at Summerslam '91) and technically, his win over Austin at WM13. Bret was very creative in coming up with finishes that were a satisfying "end" without always falling back on getting the guy to submit.

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  30. Brand extension!

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  31. Is there any finisher that is still totally protected by WWE standards? I think it might only be the Red Arrow (only because Neville has only been around for a few months) and, of all things, Big Show's knockout punch.

    * Lots of guys kick out of the AA
    * "Kicking out of the Tombstone" was an OMG moment when Michaels did it at WM25, but it was played out at the next five Manias.
    * Pedigree is still pretty protected when HHH does it, though I suspect that'll change with Rollins' usage
    * RKO has been kicked out of in the past, though it still has a rep as a murder-death-kill maneuver.

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  32. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 28, 2015 at 3:51 PM

    They should shake things up in the undercard for sure. Whether that means swapping guys from NXT and the main roster, or combining guys from both, just do something different. Of course, then you have to give them things to DO or else they become the next perpetual midcarders clogging things up. For example, Ryder & Mojo as a tag team. Why the hell not? Why not put Rose & Fandango together as a team and see if they can do something with the Lucha Dragons or someone? Dallas to the New Day stable made sense. Send Miz down to NXT for a while. He can beat his chest about being a former mentor down there and act all superior to them. Enzo & Cass to the main roster should have happened already. Bring up Breeze. Hell, make that Corbin guy part of the Authority's muscle or something. Better than Kane/Show at least.

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  33. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 28, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    The product was dull with two brands too. It doesn't help anything.

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  34. Back in the 80's/90's, it was very rare to see a guy kick out of a finisher unless it was Hogan hulking up. (Even then you had cases where the heel hit his move and inexplicably started taunting instead of going for the pin, allowing Hogan time to get to his feet and start shaking his head.) The whole point was that they were FINISHERS, and once the wrestler used them, it was all over. You didn't have, say, Koko hit the Ghostbuster on Dibiase and have MDM kick out to prove he was a badass....you just had Koko maybe tease the move once or twice but Dibiase would avoid it and eventually slap on the Million Dollar Dream.


    Now, every big match seemingly takes multiple finishers for an ending. I like the idea of a guy having one absolute DOOMSDAY finisher they save for special occasions that is never escaped from --- Angle grapevining the leg on the anklelock, or Cena with the top-rope AA --- but really, anything built up as a 'finisher' should be protected. It's like WWE has the mentality that fans pay to see Randy Orton RKO someone, so that spot will be worked in no matter if Orton wins or not.

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  35. The Authority muscle guy is a missed opportunity to push someone new. I'm sure USA Network wants more Kane, though!

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  36. So everyone can complain about the brand extension again?

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  37. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 28, 2015 at 4:03 PM

    Exactly. Would Titus and Baron make markedly worse "muscle" for HHH & Steph? Or a Diesel type bodyguard for Miz or some other skeevy heel?

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  38. Sting's first win over Flair was out of nowhere and I didn't really care for it. Situations like that you have to put the guy over strong. It was a fluke win when it shouldn't have been.

    Flair beating Steamboat when his knee gave out on a bodyslam is fine because they were both established guys and the finish was a logical conclusion to the match. Sting's small package was completely out of nowhere. BULLSHIT!!!!!

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  39. Vince is will want a midget at some point, might as well have one in house.

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  40. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM

    Exactly. People were talking about how overdue the "contraction" was years ago

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  41. The problem was Smackdown had a motivated Paul Heyman and pushed a more athletic product than the previous era (of Attitude) and Raw was just Triple-H revelling in his new found power, coming all over the roster. When the McMahon's realised an outsider was kicking the flagship shows area they kicked Paul out and raided their own brand until it didn't matter anymore.

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  42. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 28, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    The separation of "technical wrestling" on SmackDown lasted like a year at best. That was because they had Angle/Benoit, Guerreros, and Edge/Rey. Soon enough, it was just Raw-lite.

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  43. For like eight months.

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  44. I'd say Titus would work. Plus, it would keep him out of the ring.

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  45. Yup. Fighting words. Certain words or phrases due to their intent can be considered throwing the first shot. If $PERSON calls $OTHERPERSON by a charged slur, say someone called me a Polack to come up with a weak example, I'd be able to physically retaliate.

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  46. Most complaints were due to the lack of follow through.

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  47. Brian Cage could fill it easily

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  48. Turn Hornswaggle into a Machiavellian Tyrion Lannister character who leads a stable of wrestlers against the Authority outsmarting and outplanning everyone along the way and I'm in. Obviously he doesn't have anywhere near the acting chops of Peter Dinklage but it's an idea.

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  49. Great points below but I would also start moving back towards submission holds going back to being used as actual finishers instead of transitional moves that wrestlers take 5 minutes of agonizing pain before reaching the ropes and making their comeback. Submissions should be treated as legitimate tap-outs within 15-30 seconds and nearly impossible to break unless it's not applied with enough leverage or force. Nobody buys the sharpshooter or figure four anymore because they are ALWAYS escaped from.

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  50. Splitting the brands by show would be a mistake since the two weekly timeslots are not on equal footing or status. It would just end the way the last brand split did. Nobody's going to want to be on the brand with the lesser time slot and NBCUniversal would want to topload the Raw brand with talent since that's the flagshipo show.

    If they were allowed to alternate the time slots between the brands on a periodic basis, there might be some potential for a viable brand split where both brands are treated as equals. Ex: Each brand gets a three hour Raw one week and a two hour Smackdown the next.

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  51. The first reply is

    @brutusbeefcake_ says the drug addict has-been

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  52. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    What's the lowest buyrate for a PPV ever? I bet that record gets broken tonight.

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  53. I think they just had a hard time finding space. So they have to do tapings whenever they can get the stage. Which I think has led them to have to tape shows like 9 days in a row this week.

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  54. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgMN0Cfh-aQ

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  55. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:01 PM

    I was at Universal 5 years ago, never bothered to figure out where their soundstage was, but kept waiting for some random wrestler to saunter by.

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  56. The concert I saw in 1998 was the drizzling shits.

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  57. But they'll have Jeff Jarrett.
    He's a big enough superstar to sell out the stadium by himself surely?

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  58. Only three people ever bought my wrestling company's PPV.

    My mom, my sister and our very own Shelton Benjamin (he loves me).

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  59. Claire Lynch works/worked as Olive Oyl in the parks.

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  60. I imagine they make enough from people letting the subs continue they absorb the fraud like Columbia House did.

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  61. every household in the USA used to own a pet Shelton Benjamin.

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  62. I have several friends that have seen them at various times between mid 90's through 5-6 years ago. The have all said it wasn't even a little good.

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  63. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    I wouldn't have recognized her then, and I likely wouldn't recognize her now, and I watched that storyline in full.

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  64. cabspaintedyellowJune 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Heroes of Wrestling, maybe? Unless people heard what a trainwreck it was and ordered the PPV for a night of getting blitzed and losing faith in your childhood heroes.

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  65. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    I imagine it being very lazy and boring.

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  66. I just checked my cable. It's not carrying Slammiversary. The only TNA PPV it pulls up is "TNA Wrestling Legends: Hardy, Foley, Raven, Sabu". The recent RoH PPV is there, plus a ton of UFC and oddball wrestling shows ("Women's Wrestling Wars: Illicit Violence"?), but no Slammivetsary.

    Uh-oh...

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  67. probably one of the WOW or GLOW shows.

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  68. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    I've only seen her on Wrestlecrap.

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  69. Time: Something terrible happened while I was in the bath. :("
    Mrs Time: "...what?"
    Time: "Billy Corgan blocked me on twitter :'("

    Have to live my whole life now knowing that this exchange actually happened. Should just end it all.

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  70. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    Stan Lane and Tully Blanchard looked decent on that show.

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  71. "Women's Wrestling Wars: Illicit Violence" sounds like a totally not soft porn show.

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  72. I thought I saw Rockstar Spud when I was there. Turns out it was just a 7 year old not tall enough to ride the Back to the Future ride.

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  73. *passes the knife*

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  74. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    Be sure to play Disarm or Today if you do.

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  75. You Brits had your own Shelton Benjamins of different ethnicities in your colonial homes as well.

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  76. For WWE it was TLC & Stairs 2014 with 39,000 buys but that of course is well into the Network era.

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  77. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    HOW did 29,000, which I'm willing to bet beat any TNA show. And probably some of the WCW and ECW ones towards the end.

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  78. I went in 2007 and it was amazing. 2008 and it sucked. 2011 and it was good and 2013 it was great. So a broad spectrum.

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  79. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    I think TNA's highest was 25,000 with Joe/Angle I.

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  80. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    I think we can exclude any post-network WWE shows, but 39,000 is still way more than any TNA show has ever done.

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  81. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    And they fucked that up BIG TIME.

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  82. Here's a weird idea, if TNA was in Universal Orlando for all those years, how come the never had a wrestler interaction spot, like the character interaction you could get with SpongeBob & Minions.

    have a fake ring set up and throw a random wrestler out there for photographs & autographs. Even have a small merch stand there.

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  83. Damn. I woulda thought the addition of stairs would have put that up over 100k. I mean, it's STAIRS!!

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  84. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Mine is carrying it, though I can't imagine why.

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  85. I agree post Network, the numbers can't compare.

    Didn't IYH: It's Time get under 100k?

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  86. Because no one gives a shit about TNA?

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  87. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Because they were and are terrible about promoting.

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  88. Sounds about right. they played the whole Adore album, with three of their earlier, popular songs thrown in but played differently. then they brought fans onstage for an unlistenable finale. ugh.

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  89. They struggled to get people to come to shows for free let alone pay for autographs or merch

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  90. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    This year, TLC and Stairs and Ring Bells.

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  91. I believe the only merch they have ever had that sold were the Knockout calendars, right?

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  92. Man, I gotta tell you, at the height of my fandom I had some 1998 bootlegs and thought they were awesome. The adore songs sounded epic, and I thought the reworkings were pretty cool. If I'd paid to go though, and didn't hear the songs the way they were meant to be, I'd probably have been less impressed

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  93. Probably. Their shirts are all pretty ugly

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  94. Nah, the lowest Pre network PPV is December to Dismember at 90K.


    It's Time did a 0.35 buyrate slightly up from the 0.30 that Bret Vs Bulldog did a year earlier.

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  95. Surely they'll feature the return of Sable.

    Tables, Ladders, Chairs, Stairs & Furs

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  96. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:13 PM

    Liked them enough in the 90s but wasn't a superfan. What was their quintessential song, 1979? Tonight, Tonight?

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  97. Uggh trying to watch an episode of primetime on ps4 and it keeps freezing over and over. Spivey and muraco is taking twice the time.

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  98. But Dixie tweets about Impact ya'll.

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  99. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:13 PM

    Not sure. I know IYH 4 and Rock Bottom did really poorly.

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  100. In 2015, the finisher of Jake Roberts is a lame transition move, and his setup move is a megadeath finisher.


    What if Jake had realized that he could pin guys with a short-arm clothesline?


    "Rainmaker" Jake Roberts could have been great fun.

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  101. Rock Bottom was actually a really good show as well and during a hot period.

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  102. I would think Today was their biggest hit.

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  103. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Glad I still have the Samoa Joe DVD from like 9 years ago.

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  104. When did that other escaped convict get killed? I've been following this pretty closely and don't remember it at all, must of been last week,

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  105. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    I think Rocket was probably my favorite song.

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  106. Nails or Nathan Jones?

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  107. Marveen PonderosaJune 28, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    That poor do...oh, woman.

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  108. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Someone brought a giant stuffed Minion to Victory Road 11 and Tommy Dreamer hit someone with it. Does that count as cross-promotion

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  109. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Imagine that match.

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  110. I love the story Nash tells about Jake. Punchline is something along the lines of if that beer bellied, skinny legged slob can go out there and no sell people, why the fuck should I ever give anyone anything.

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  111. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    December PPVs always do shit buyrates, at least for WWF\E.

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  112. Jurassic World... was Jurassic World... except for the parts where it was Transformers 4 and Godzilla.

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  113. If HHH is on it, TLC and stairs and sledgehammers.


    If Dean Ambrose is on it, TLC and stairs and TVs

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  114. Mr. X and Tony garea main event anywhere in America

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  115. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:17 PM

    Bullet with Butterfly Wings.

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  116. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:17 PM

    I know she's southern, but I'd love to see Vince succeed using "ya'll" and "darlin" as much as she does.

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  117. I chose to see inside out with my daughter instead.

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  118. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    Earlier this week, Monday or Tuesday I think.

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  119. Official Preview for tonight PPV:
    Action from the annual wrestling event, which this year was staged at the Agganis Arena in Boston, Massachusetts, where the bill was headlined by Bully Ray v Sting

    Watch tonights show because last year we had two wrestlers who longer work for us!

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  120. Zack Ryder has finally found steady work when he started working for NXT.

    Problem is, WWE can't have too many guys making bug fat main roster money in NXT while the NXT talent gets peanuts. That won't help morale

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  121. I like Drown a lot. Rocket is good. Fuck You is another good one.

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  122. Biff CumberbatchJune 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Wrestling show names these days suck. That is all.

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  123. Rock Bottom was really really bad.

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  124. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Prison Yard Bitch Match:

    Nailz vs. Nathan Jones vs. Ken Patera vs. Crush

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  125. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Bubba Ray is back, he was at the tapings.

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  126. Just downloaded Bonk's Adventure for the PS3 for $1.20... can't wait.

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  127. Biff CumberbatchJune 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Was the pay per view taped or something?

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  128. People have told me that when you are off it for awhile and then have it again, tastes like battery acid

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  129. I literally just facepalmed.

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  130. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    It gets worse: he's the new authority figure.

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  131. I don't think there is anybody that could jump WWE ship for a Wednesday night company & lift it to the next level.

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  132. Is Christian the only person to go to TNA when WWE was an option? Angle, Hardy, Raven, Dudleys, etc all went cause WWE didn't want them anymore.

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  133. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:22 PM

    He should totally wear a suit and tie with the Hanson brother glasses.

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  134. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    R-Truth, maybe?

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  135. cabspaintedyellowJune 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    Well, Christian always came across to me like someone who was always bugged about the ways in which it was being used (or not being used), so the prospect of a main event run in a national wrestling promotion probably spoke to him.

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  136. Of course he is.

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  137. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    Suit and tie is likely not within TNA's budget though.

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  138. Something I wouldn't mind WWE Network to do is to have 1 match specials similar to no holds barred ppv or even Halftime Heat.


    Example: They could do Cena v Owens Iron Man match for 1 hour.

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  139. cabspaintedyellowJune 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    #Reunite3LiveCrew

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  140. Sting could have gone to WWE rather than TNA but chose TNA instead if that counts.

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  141. They have the guys & gals, they have the timeslots, they have networks that can view them. But if they went in that direction again, someone will be the face of the program that shouldn't be. And HHH or Cena will show up to put an end to that.

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  142. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    He can get one from Goodwill. He won't be getting paid, so I guess you can call him a charity case.

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  143. Yep. That's a good one.

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  144. Halftime Heat wasn't a one match special.

    It had 3-4 matches on it. It's just the rest weren't in any way memorable.

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  145. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    Matches with HHH and/or Taker in 2002 would've been better than what we got this year, even though Sting tried hard at Mania.

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  146. Recent comedy movie recommendations?

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  147. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    TNA probably couldn't afford a used suit and tie from Value Village.

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  148. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    Is Elix Skipper even around anymore? Or was he in XXX?


    Oh yeah, fuck off with the hashtags.

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  149. We're The Millers.

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  150. didn't Nigel McGuiness choose TNA over WWE?

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  151. A saw that shortly after it came out. Pretty funny.

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  152. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    Is that the Jennifer Aniston stripping movie?

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  153. He failed his medical for WWE.

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  154. Spy has like 95% on rotten tomatoes

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  155. I don't know if he could have gone to WWE or not. But I know he got super over in TNA, kept winning the fan poll to get a title shot, never got the shot and got released in short order.

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  156. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    I don't think so. IIRC he was going to sign with WWE but flunked the physical.

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  157. I think he was offered a NXT developmental contract back when NXT was starting on it's current path.

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  158. "And stairs": You're welcome, Pal!

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  159. Horrible Bosses 2, What We Do In The Shadows, The One I Lov

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  160. Yep, and it's funny too.

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  161. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Still better than "Fast Lane".

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  162. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    I kinda like the idea of Super Slut Jennifer Aniston.

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  163. Makes sense. He made it this long

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  164. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    I guess AJ Styles too.

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  165. Fast Lane and Stairs!

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  166. I thought WWE repeatedly turned him down.

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  167. Just watched Horrible Bosses 2 earlier today! The trio was way too dumbed down for my tastes but it was still enjoyable.

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  168. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    I wanted to plow her like the first snowfall of the year in Office Space.

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  169. Neighbors

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  170. #hashtagsforever

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  171. So are we doing a Live Thread for the BET Awards tonight?

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  172. Over on 411mania, in the comments section, someone made a list of guys that GFW should sign. This is almost TNAMecca levels of stupid.

    ACH
    Alberto Del Rio
    AJ Styles
    Austin Aries
    Batista
    Carlito
    Chris Hero
    D'Von Dudley
    Edge
    James Storm
    Jim Ross
    Low Ki
    Magnus
    Rob Van Dam
    Roderick Strong
    Tomaso Champa

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  173. Seasons 1-3 of Friends is her peak

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  174. Wikipedia reason has Styles not wanting to relocate to OVW because his wife was going to college.

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  175. Shawn Michaels hosts a show called MRA. Now, he dresses like one too.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIn8-k8VAAAX5ep.jpg

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  176. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    I heard that WWE offered him and Joe a $500 per appearance deal and TNA offered them a much better guaranteed contract. They chose TNA, and I don't blame them.

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  177. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    Get Christian with Edge and they can kazoo the shows opening theme.

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  178. It'll have more shooting than TNA

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  179. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    Extreme Elimination Tables, Ladders, Chairs, and Stairs in the Cell!

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  180. CNN's way too impressed the escapees used pepper to throw off the dogs

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  181. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:34 PM

    I kinda want to see Shawn as a 1930's gumshoe now.

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  182. So Austin Aries is written off TNA by losing a match against Rockstar Spud of all people. Guess they are building him to be their next main eventer

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  183. Is there going to be a live thread for Slammiversary?

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  184. Absolutely. I have no doubt AJ is as big a star as he is now because he was in TNA and not teaming up with Evan Bourne in Velocity matches.

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  185. I stumbled across the best old school PI name ever on a set of curtains the other day. 'Ascot Valance'

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  186. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    I saw that. Wouldn't go so far as to call it TNAMecca levels of stupid though. Ciampa would be a good pickup for GFW.

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  187. I kinda suck at video games now... couldn't get past 2-1...

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  188. I thought medical issues kept him from WWE?

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  189. Jonathan MeisnerJune 28, 2015 at 5:37 PM

    Also, I'm sure Batista would be all over working for GFW. Must be tired of making all that Marvel and Bond money by now.

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  190. How anyone bought him as a cool guy...

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  191. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Wouldn't be an issue now, but AJ is a really religious guy and did not at all like the product WWE was putting out at the time. He's also said he doesn't want to be on the road and away from his kids that much.

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  192. Most recent comedy I saw that I really liked was Grand Budapest Hotel. Or a movie called The Other One. But I'm a big Elizabeth Moss fan.

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