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The Fiend/Bray Wyatt lantern + new Huskus doll

Hi Scott,   Not sure how into the new stuff you are, but this is cool and I thought worth pointing out to you.   Lantern is back in stock – https://ift.tt/2RoCVtm   Plus, a new Huskus “the pig boy” doll available now too: https://shop.wwe.com/huskus-the-pig-boy-plush-doll/1602104811.html?dwvar_1602104811_color=No%20Color#pagesize=58&start=4   Thanks! Say what you will, but the Fiend has ... Read more The Fiend/Bray Wyatt lantern + new Huskus doll

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Saving AEW

I saw you mention "bold and spicy hot take" and it got me thinking about the only thing that could save AEW from being dead before New Years: Curry Man! I’m pretty sure he’s already signed to a NXT developmental deal for the next few years.  I hear Mr America might be available for some ... Read more Saving AEW

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WWF Monday Night RAW – August 15th, 1994

August 15, 1994 From the Lowell Auditorium in Lowell, MA Your hosts are Vince McMahon and “Macho Man” Randy Savage   We are shown highlights from last week’s confrontations between Lex Luger and Tatanka.   Tonight, we will have Ted DiBiase and Paul Bearer as guests on the King’s Court plus Owen Hart vs. 1-2-3 ... Read more WWF Monday Night RAW – August 15th, 1994

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WWE Legends Contracts

Do you have any idea on how WWE Legends Contracts work in terms of dates with the company, the amount paid, etc?   Basically it's a small amount of money that comes with the stipulation that the talent can essentially work whatever indy shows they want and do whatever autograph signings and appearances they want to ... Read more WWE Legends Contracts

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Hidden gems to become buried treasure?

Hi Scott, For the blog: WWE NETWORK ENDS HIDDEN GEMS | PWInsider.com What do you think about this? Really disappointing news to me, the Hidden Gems section has been my main weekly thing to watch for a long time. Incredibly disappointing.  Also, the switchover to the new interface has really wrecked the service overall.  Hidden Gems ... Read more Hidden gems to become buried treasure?

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The SmarK Rant for WWF Monday Night RAW – 06.05.95

The SmarK Rant for Monday Night RAW – 06.05.95 Live from Struthers, OH. Your hosts are Vince McMahon & Jerry Lawler For some reason the sound on this episode is super-compressed and tinny, like it’s from a RealPlayer file in 1997 or something. Caribbean Legend Savio Vega v. Kenny Kendall The legend that no one ... Read more The SmarK Rant for WWF Monday Night RAW – 06.05.95

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Impact Wrestling – November 26, 2019 (Throwback Throwdown)

Impact Wrestling Date: November 26, 2019 Location: Don Kolov Arena, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Commentators: Giuseppe Scovelli Jr., Sexton Hardcastle So you remember Southpaw Regional Wrestling right? That wacky and HILARIOUS set of vignettes that WWE put out where they mocked an old territory promotion? Well Impact is one upping them with a full episode of ... Read more Impact Wrestling – November 26, 2019 (Throwback Throwdown)

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NXT – December 4, 2019

NXT Date: December 4, 2019 Location: Full Sail University, Winter Park, Florida Commentators: Mauro Ranallo, Beth Phoenix, Nigel McGuinness Things got more interesting last week with Finn Balor going after Adam Cole, though it isn’t clear if they’re going to be alone, as Tommaso Ciampa was in the mix too. They have something interesting with ... Read more NXT – December 4, 2019

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Dynamite – December 4, 2019

Dynamite Date: December 4, 2019 Location: State Farm Center, Champaign, Illinois Commentators: Jim Ross, Excalibur, Tony Schiavone Last week’s show ended on a big moment with Jon Moxley seemingly setting himself up as the next challenger to Chris Jericho’s World Title. They had a big feud in WWE so doing the same thing over here ... Read more Dynamite – December 4, 2019

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Monday Night Raw – July 4, 2019

Monday Night Raw Date: July 4, 2005 Location: ARCO Arena, Sacramento, California Attendance: 10,000 Commentators: Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, Jonathan Coachman We’ll start the second half of the year with this one and that could mean a few things. We’re likely in for a bigger show due to the holiday, but I’m not sure how ... Read more Monday Night Raw – July 4, 2019

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WWF Wrestling Challenge – August 14th, 1994

August 14, 1994 From the Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, OH Your hosts are Jim Ross and Ted DiBiase   Mabel w/ Oscar vs. Ryan Scott DiBiase refers to Mabel/Jarrett at SummerSlam as “rap vs. country.” He also says that Jarrett is much smarter. Mabel overpowers Scott with ease as we hear from Mabel in an ... Read more WWF Wrestling Challenge – August 14th, 1994

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What the World Was Watching: WCW Worldwide – November 18, 1995

–Tony Schiavone and Bobby Heenan are doing commentary and they are taped from Orlando, Florida.  WCW Pro got a great new set but Worldwide must be the neglected child because their presentation looks incredibly outdated relative to the other shows. –Colonel Robert Parker hypes his new tag team:  the Super Assassins.  He puts over the ... Read more What the World Was Watching: WCW Worldwide – November 18, 1995

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Mike Reviews: ECW Hardcore TV #345 – 04/12/1999

Hello You! Last week we had a New Jack focused episode, as he stapled Spanish Angel in the eye and then put Tony DeVito through a table after jumping off a balcony. In most cases that would be a pretty definitive end to the feud, but this is ECW, where setting someone on fire is ... Read more Mike Reviews: ECW Hardcore TV #345 – 04/12/1999

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Macho Man WM9

The booking of Wrestle Mania 9 is so weird in retrospect. And specifically how they used Savage in 1993:  Savage worked a program with Repo Man the first 2 Raws in January of that year. THEY COULDN'T HAVE FOUND AN OPPONENT FOR HIM AT WRESTLE MANIA 9? Maybe continue his feud with Razor Ramon?!??!? Ric ... Read more Macho Man WM9

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Wrestling bios you’d like to see

With the influx of biographies over the years there are a few heavy hitters left that could be great for historical context, such as Vince, Cornette and um well that is about it. What about pure entertainment factor though? My top three. 1. Ricky Morton. He was reputedly writing one/looking for a publisher. In the ... Read more Wrestling bios you’d like to see

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Return Of Squashes?

Raw this past Monday had 8 matches total, 5 of them basically being squashes.  Bear in mind I am not complaining about this at all, as I think it's a smart strategy with the brands being separated again.  However, do you expect this to be the norm going forward, or do you think this was ... Read more Return Of Squashes?

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John Morrison returns! For real this time!

https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwe-officially-confirms-john-morrison-returning-company-298731  This time we have confirmation from both sides, after he initially signed in September and then spent two months apparently denying it on Twitter with no announcements from WWE.   

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The SmarK Rant for WWE Monday Night RAW – 12.03.19

The SmarK Rant for WWE Monday Night RAW (Hulu Edition) – 12.02.19 The Authors of Pain show up and speak SCARY FOREIGN LANGUAGES when asked why they beat up Kevin Owens.  I bet their books about pain aren’t even written in English. Live from Kevin Nashville, TN Your hosts are Vic Joseph & Jerry Lawler ... Read more The SmarK Rant for WWE Monday Night RAW – 12.03.19

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The Tuesday Night Streaming Wars!

Tonight!  It’s the season finale of NWA Powerrr, featuring the Rock N Roll Express challenging for the NWA tag team titles one last time: Also, AEW Dark has some stuff from Chicago… No Monday ratings info yet due to the holiday last week.  I had to call and chat with technical support at Apple for ... Read more The Tuesday Night Streaming Wars!

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Wondering if you planned on having a match of the year and/or decade countdown to close out the year on the blog? That sounds suspiciously like something that would require work on my part, plus the ability to remember shit that happened before last year.   Neither is really a strong point for me as ... Read more ?

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WWF Superstars – August 13th, 1994

August 13, 1994 From the Wheeling Civic Center in Wheeling, WV Your hosts are Vince McMahon and Jerry “The King” Lawler   The Headshrinkers w/ Afa & Capt. Lou Albano vs. Barry Horowitz & Reno Riggins Lawler says that he already misses Jim Ross while Vince lets us know that Ross is now over on ... Read more WWF Superstars – August 13th, 1994

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WWE’s idea of “Attractions”

So your shared disapproval of WALTER jobbing first and quickly at SS, and you picking him in a fantasy league, had me thinking about the following. WALTER sometimes reminds me of Andre in his prime. A man of intimidating stature, presence, who could GO in the ring and the simple offense of overpowering blunt force ... Read more WWE’s idea of “Attractions”

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AEW’s biggest problem

AEW is still fine, but this past week’s number has been, I think, the biggest cause for concern thus far. Regardless of how they’re doing, or what metrics we use, there’s one booking pattern that has been bugging me. Especially with Lucha Bros losing again, it feels like the underlying philosophy of the booking is ... Read more AEW’s biggest problem

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The SmarK Rant for WWF Prime Time Wrestling – 03.09.87

The SmarK Rant for WWF Prime Time Wrestling – 03.09.87 Back to 1987 for the buildup to Wrestlemania III and a senses-shattering first appearance!  This is bigger than the debut of Dynamite and the moon landing PUT TOGETHER.  Like, if AEW Dynamite did a special show live from the moon. Also, I’m gonna run into ... Read more The SmarK Rant for WWF Prime Time Wrestling – 03.09.87

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCCW 06-09-1984

Taped from Dallas, TX Airdate: June 9, 1984 (taped 05/18) Attendance: unknown Hosted by Bill Mercer Can Adams and Parsons overcome the evil duo of Gordy and Khan? What does Stella have in store for Garvin? And who will join me in this rather dangerous episode? Be careful, Johnny! These days, folks are hypercritical about ... Read more Rock Star Gary reflects on WCCW 06-09-1984

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Monday Night Raw – December 2, 2019

Monday Night Raw Date: December 2, 2019 Location: Bridgestone Arena, Nashville, Tennessee Commentators: Vic Joseph, Jerry Lawler, Samoa Joe We’re less than two weeks away from Tables, Ladders and Chairs and you can probably piece together a lot of the card from here. That being said, there is a lot that still needs to be ... Read more Monday Night Raw – December 2, 2019

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Monday Night Open Mic

Howdy Blog O’Doomers! I hope everyone had a great weekend, a great long holiday weekend in the states and just a normal great weekend for other areas of this big wide world. RAW tonight should continue with the Seth Rollins heel turn, which got off to a good start last week in my opinion. I ... Read more Monday Night Open Mic

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WWF Monday Night RAW – August 8th, 1994

August 8, 1994 From the Beeghly Center in Youngstown, OH Your hosts are Vince McMahon and “Macho Man” Randy Savage The show has an opening where we see a surgeon about to perform surgery but it ends up turning on RAW instead. Tonight, we have Tatanka & Doink vs. Bam Bam Bigelow & IRS   ... Read more WWF Monday Night RAW – August 8th, 1994

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Joshi Spotlight: AJW Wrestling Queendom 1997

The main event, between Kyoko Inoue & Aja Kong. All the bouts are on this channel- just type in “Unified” or find out the names in Japanese and search that way. AJW WRESTLING QUEENDOM 1997: (23.03.1997) -Aaaaaaaaaaaaand now we’re into the depressing year. 1997 is where it all fully went wrong for Joshi as a ... Read more Joshi Spotlight: AJW Wrestling Queendom 1997

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What the World Was Watching: WCW Pro – November 18, 1995

WCW Prime for November 13 featured a new match, with Chris Cruise and Dusty Rhodes doing commentary. –Prime “MOOOO” Match of the Week:  Sting & Lex Luger (2-0) defeat the Blue Bloods (24-7-2) when Sting pins Earl Robert Eaton after heel miscommunication at 6:38 shown: This is a match more fitting for WCW Saturday Night ... Read more What the World Was Watching: WCW Pro – November 18, 1995

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Monday Night Raw – November 25, 2019

Monday Night Raw Date: November 25, 2019 Location: Allstate Arena, Chicago, Illinois Commentators: Vic Joseph, Jerry Lawler It’s the final important show in Chicago and that means we should be in for the start of something new around here. We’ve been dealing with the NXT Invasion for so long now that I’m almost not sure ... Read more Monday Night Raw – November 25, 2019

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Time Killing Fantasy Book

Scott,  If you could build a promotion from scratch with any six current wrestlers, with the caveat that you can only take one per company, who'd you build around? People who work multiple promotions are fine (i.e., you could take WALTER for OTT and still take someone else for WWE).  I'd take WALTER for sure, ... Read more Time Killing Fantasy Book

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Contractors

So from what I've been able to tell, AEW gets around the critique of calling it's wrestlers independent contractors by doing what the WWE is supposed to do (allowing outside bookings, etc.), while also giving its long-term talent jobs on the side to justify giving them benefits. Do you think this is a good workaround, ... Read more Contractors

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The SmarK Rant for WWE Starrcade 2019 – 12.01.19

The SmarK Rant for WWE Starrcade 2019 – 12.01.19 So the episode’s description reads:  “Catch all your favorite Superstars competing at WWE Starrcade, a special event where both the Raw and SmackDown brands collide.”  Good thing we had that draft and PPV last week where all the brands collide for the one and only time ... Read more The SmarK Rant for WWE Starrcade 2019 – 12.01.19

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCCW 06-02-1984

Taped from Dallas, TX Airdate: June 2, 1984 (taped 05/11) Attendance: unknown Hosted by Bill Mercer Can Kevin topple Hayes? Who makes his triumphant return to WCCW? How will Strongbow fare against this mysterious King? And who will join me for this smoking episode? Oh God! Is that you? Yikes! I hope you enjoy this ... Read more Rock Star Gary reflects on WCCW 06-02-1984

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ECW on Syfy 10/06/2009 #174

Dramatic recap of Regal becoming ECW On Syfy GM and using his powers to immediately lose to Yoshi Tatsu. Regal starts the show, hopefully he stays there the whole episode. He makes himself the Number One Contender to the ECW Title which causes Ryder to complain (to no reaction). Christian brings out three guys who ... Read more ECW on Syfy 10/06/2009 #174

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Starrcade 2019

Starrcade 2019 Date: December 1, 2019 Location: Infinite Energy Arena, Duluth, Georgia Commentators: Tom Phillips, Byron Saxton I mean, it has been a whole week since their last big event. This is another one of those house shows that is airing on the Network in a shortened form. It isn’t exactly something interesting though last ... Read more Starrcade 2019

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Sunday Night Reset: December 1, 2019

Sorry I’m late; traffic was bad in the rain. Anyway, tonight’s NFL game is New England and Houston. Also, Starrcade is currently going on.  In the past, this would be a big deal for me; of course, in the past, it would be in DC and I’d be there.  (I got to see Goldberg’s first ... Read more Sunday Night Reset: December 1, 2019

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Mike Reviews: WWF Survivor Series 1989

Hello You! I used to watch this one quite a bit back in my younger days as I had it on VHS, so seeing as we’re not far removed from the 2019 version of the show I decided to set the way back machine 30 years for some classic Survival action. In a nice bit ... Read more Mike Reviews: WWF Survivor Series 1989

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WWF Wrestling Challenge – August 7th, 1994

August 7, 1994 From the Stabler Arena in Bethelem, PA Your hosts are Stan Lane and Ted DiBiase   The Headshrinkers w/ Afa & Capt. Lou Albano vs. Iron Mike Sharpe & Corey Student DiBiase says that his team of Bam Bam Bigelow & IRS are ready for The Headshrinkers at SummerSlam. Sharpe bounces off ... Read more WWF Wrestling Challenge – August 7th, 1994

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NXT wins Survivor Series

Scott, NXT dominating survivor series is just another example of Triple H putting himself over, is it not? I am tired of him burying established stars to put over up and comers. This is why AEW has a drunk Chris Jericho as champion!!!! Am I doing this right? Chris Jericho sold 11,000 bottles of his ... Read more NXT wins Survivor Series

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Hart/Michaels Bret Michaels rumor

Hey Scott, I've heard this one a lot over the years… wondering if there is any truth to the old rumor that the WWF was getting Bret Michaels (the singer) in as a special guest referee for the Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels rematch at King of the Ring '97 before that one fell apart? If so, ... Read more Hart/Michaels Bret Michaels rumor

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*hot tag* girls scream

I've seen you bring this up a few times before, but what happened to the shrieking girls in the audience? They've really been gone since the Hardy Boyz/E&C days. Although he's one of my favorite performers, it's not like Christian back in the day was Brad Pitt in tights. So it clearly isn’t that the ... Read more *hot tag* girls scream

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Wrestling Observer Flashback – 06.12.95

Wrestling Observer Flashback – 06.12.95 Hey, remember that NBC special that WWF has been so excited about? Yeah, about that… – Wrestlemania: The Special, which was supposed to feature Shawn Michaels v. Diesel and LT v. Bam Bam with new voiceovers from Vince, was abruptly canceled on 05/31 and will not be airing on NBC ... Read more Wrestling Observer Flashback – 06.12.95

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The Cheap and Lazy Sunday Thread

Hope everyone had a good weekend and didn’t get trampled in the shopping rush. I watched “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs” on Netflix last night and while you wouldn’t think that a weird Coen Brothers movie would mesh with a western, but it just works.  It’s funny, crazy, sad and wonderful. Tonight is Starrcade on ... Read more The Cheap and Lazy Sunday Thread

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Survivor Series 2019

Survivor Series 2019 Date: November 24, 2019 Location: Allstate Arena, Chicago, Illinois Commentators: Michael Cole, Corey Graves, Vic Joseph, Jerry Lawler, Nigel McGuinness, Beth Phoenix We have finally arrived. After several weeks of Raw, Smackdown and NXT invading each others’ shows, it is time to see which show is best and that could be interesting. ... Read more Survivor Series 2019

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Factions

Hi Scott, Why do factions not seem to last long at all in WWE? I was watching some njpw recently and was reminded that Chaos has been around in one way or another for 10 years. Okada and a Naito are big singles stars but their association with their factions (chaos and lij) doesn’t weigh ... Read more Factions

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Favorite Mini-Feud?

Did you ever have a favorite mini-feud in wrestling?  One of mine had to be Shelton Benjamin vs Snitsky for the WWE I.C. Title in 2005 on Raw.  It lasted 3 weeks.  One week saw Snitsky get DQ'ed for hitting Benjamin with a chair.  The next week saw Benjamin get D.Q.'ed for using a chair ... Read more Favorite Mini-Feud?

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The Saturday Night Thread

Smackdown managed to hit a new low on FOX for the post-Thanksgiving episode, but no one was really watching TV last night anyway, so that was to be expected.  I’m sure having the first 40 minutes be dedicated to King Corbin and his stooges didn’t help anyway. It looks like the Throwback episode of Impact ... Read more The Saturday Night Thread

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Smackdown – June 30, 2005

Smackdown Date: June 30, 2005 Location: Arrowhead Pond, Anaheim, California Attendance: 15,449 Commentators: Michael Cole, Tazz It’s a big night for Smackdown with the first ever Smackdown Champion being crowned in a huge elimination match. That could change things up a good bit around here, but so could the final two Draft picks, who will ... Read more Smackdown – June 30, 2005

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Wrestler(s) That Grew On You?

What wrester(s) did you really not like a first, but they ended up growing on you as time wore on?  I was like that with JBL and his initial singles run as World Champion on Smackdown in 2004.  Like most everyone else, I thought he was given too much too quickly.  However, by the end ... Read more Wrestler(s) That Grew On You?

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NXT Technical Question

I can put in an obligatory joke about the size of my TV's display, but this is a legitimate question that I doubt you'd know the answer to, but hopefully one of the readers might: Is there a difference in the type of cameras used between the hard camera and the ringside ones? I've been ... Read more NXT Technical Question

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Strong Style Saturday Thread!

The holiday weekend in the US continues with the day after Black Friday.  I didn’t end up buying anything besides the Lethal Weapon collection on Blu Ray for $20 Canadian on Amazon. Smackdown was…a show. You know what’s awesome?  The MANDALORIAN.  Goddamn.  I thought episode 4 was going to go in a particularly dark direction ... Read more Strong Style Saturday Thread!

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Smackdown – November 29, 2019

Smackdown Date: November 29, 2019 Location: Legacy Arena, Birmingham, Alabama Commentators: Corey Graves, Michael Cole We’re finally back to normal around here after a pretty wild month that saw NXT invade and everything get turned upside down. Things have settled back down though with Smackdown coming in second place at Survivor Series. I’m not sure ... Read more Smackdown – November 29, 2019

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The SmarK Rant for WWE Friday Night Smackdown – 11.29.19

The SmarK Rant for WWE Friday Night Smackdown – 11.29.19 Live from Birmingham, AL Your hosts are Michael Cole & Corey Graves Roman Reigns is here, and Michael Cole DOESN’T WANT TO HEAR any more crap about Roman Reigns “not being a leader” after the way he solely survived and defended the honor of Smackdown ... Read more The SmarK Rant for WWE Friday Night Smackdown – 11.29.19

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WWE Friday Night Party Thread, Episode 9 — GUESS WHO’S COMING TO DINNER

We made it! This is normally where I’d show you a preview of the SmackDown tonight, but (1) nobody’s here reading, and (2) the only thing we know is that there will be a new invitee to the Firefly Fun House.  I’m calling it now: it’s a goat. Okay, guys; keep it clean and enjoy ... Read more WWE Friday Night Party Thread, Episode 9 — GUESS WHO’S COMING TO DINNER

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Ranallo and WWE

https://ift.tt/2OAgcZw man, Graves and Layfield and Lawler are such masculine manly men in a dog-eat-dog world. Total babyfaces, too heroic for this world Lawler acting like a bully I'd expect it from to a certain degree because that's the culture of wrestling that he came up in, but Graves should know better.  

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All this for 150,000 viewers

I’m probably in the top 5% of WWE fans and it’s hard to imagine giving even half a shit about this show or ever watching it. So to read the lengths they went to surprise the audience with CM Punk’s signing is nothing short of drop dead hilarious to me.  https://ift.tt/2XZTzAu Originally I read the ... Read more All this for 150,000 viewers

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What the World Was Watching: WCW Monday Nitro – November 13, 1995

–Eric Bischoff, Steve McMichael, and Bobby Heenan are doing commentary and they are taped from Jacksonville, Florida since WCW talent went to Japan for a series of shows with New Japan Pro Wrestling. –Hulk Hogan’s acid trip continues as he grunts in his grim reaper gear and says the Dungeon of Doom fears prayers and vitamins.  ... Read more What the World Was Watching: WCW Monday Nitro – November 13, 1995

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WWF Superstars – August 6th, 1994

August 6, 1994 From the Ocean City Convention Center in Ocean City, MD Your hosts are Vince McMahon and Jerry “The King” Lawler We see Jeff Jarrett attack 1-2-3 Kid two weeks ago after their match, setting up this week’s rematch.   “King of Harts” Owen Hart w/ Jim Neidhart vs. Mike Khoury Ross says ... Read more WWF Superstars – August 6th, 1994

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BoD Daily Update: November 29, 2019

Let’s take a look at some Black Friday Wrestling Deals for Today: WWE.com Up to 75% Off Select Deals Pro Wrestling Tees Save 20-40% Off F4W Online One Month Subscription for $3.99 PWTorch VIP One Month Subscription for $1.49 Highspots.com 25% Off Everything Barbershop Window 35% Off Everything Ringside Collectibles 10% Off Select Deals RF ... Read more BoD Daily Update: November 29, 2019

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The SmarK Rant for ECW Wrestling on TNN – 11.12.99

The SmarK Rant for ECW Wrestling on TNN – 11.12.99 No Hidden Gems today, so here’s some ECW instead. Jason the Sexiest Man Alive meets up with the Impact Players at the arena entrance, and he’s freaking out about Sandman caning everyone and getting drunk.  Lance Storm is like “Screw this, I don’t want to ... Read more The SmarK Rant for ECW Wrestling on TNN – 11.12.99

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Billy Gunn and the Smoking Guns

With Billy Gunn back in the news in AEW, I have to ask: is there a reason why he never went back to the Smoking Guns/Cowboy gimmick?  The Smoking Guns was a decent gimmick but I can understand Billy wanting to keep some surface level connection to the New Age Outlaws due to that being ... Read more Billy Gunn and the Smoking Guns

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Endgame To “Summer Of Punk”?

I was just watching some "Summer Of Punk" stuff from 2011 the other day.  I can't believe that whole angle basically finished with a Triple H vs Kevin Nash match.  Was that somehow the original endgame for the storyline, or was something else that was planned scrapped at the last minute?   There was no original ... Read more Endgame To “Summer Of Punk”?

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Vince & HHH comparison

HHH goes out of his way to (at least publicly) acknowledge the efforts of his NXT workers, to praise them, motivate them, makes them and the entire show look like a big deal. You never hear/see that from Vince. I think this speaks volumes about them as showrunners. What do you think? I think HHH ... Read more Vince & HHH comparison

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