Friday, October 17, 2014

Place to Be Nation Friday Update

Welcome to the weekend everyone. Enjoy this sample of pieces from the week that was at PTBN!

The one and only CRZ joined the Main Event crew to talk Hell in a Cell as well as run through a series of Wrestling Favorite questions: PTBN’s Main Event – Episode #20: Fun and Games with CRZ!

Scott & Justin's Vintage Vault Refresh series is through WrestleMania IV: Scott & Justin’s Vintage Vault Refresh: WrestleMania IV

The NBA-Team continues their preseason divisional previews: PTBN’s NBA-Team Podcast Division Previews

PTBN's Seinfeld Rewatch checks out classic episodes "The Pen" and "The Parking Garage": Seinfeld: The PTBN Series Rewatch

Kevin Kelly welcomed in Kyle O'Reilly, talked Daniel Bryan, CM Punk and  took part in a Wrestling Network Draft on Episode 20: The Kevin Kelly Show Episode 20 – Featuring Kyle O’Reilly

Andrew Woltman attended a taping of Late Night with Seth Myers and shares his experience: http://placetobenation.com/my-late-night-experience/

The Hard Traveling Fanboys counted down the best creative teams in comics: Hard-Traveling Fanboys: Countdown (Best Creative Teams)

329 comments:

  1. Is not the worst idea ever, but just what the hell would a Terry Funk match look like without blood allowed?

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  2. Why would Sting have ever wanted to go to WWF? During the late 80s/early 90s, he saw Arn and Tully leave and immediately want to come back, Flair leave and almost immediately want to come back, his best friend Lex Luger leave and be completely wasted, The Steiners went to WWF and wanted to leave after less than two years, the Road Warriors lasted about two years... All these people he was close with and worked with went there and they all wanted to come back to WCW.

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  3. Eh. Guy had a 16 year career or whatever. If he comes in in say, '89, he's at his (worker) apex during the Attitude Era and probably becomes the fourth biggest star in the company behind Austin/Rock/HHH.


    He also probably would have been huge during the down period in the mid 90s when Vince desperately needed stars who weren't roided to death. Adding Edge in with Shawn and Bret would only have helped things.


    Go back much earlier, though, and yeah, too small to draw as WWF guy in the 80s.

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  4. After seeing London/Kendrick's shoot, it seemed like guys like Benoit and Holly took them under their wing and tried to mentor them but they just didn't take it seriously.


    And the chair-shot Stevie Richards put on JBL was sick.

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  5. Thing is, you don't even need context to ask that question. It's a good enough question all by itself.

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  6. Warrior was still part of some of the biggest moments in history, most notably WM6. Same deal with most legit sports halls of fame - do you go for longevity or short term impact? Warrior at his peak, short as it was, is a more memorable star then say Arn Anderson, who lasted much longer, just was very unmemorable for most of it.

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  7. It'd look really effin stupid, for sure. Terry Funk blades at the breakfast table without even trying.

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  8. Legit Hall of Fames want longevity and success. Wrestling Hall of Fames are popularity contests with their own custom rules.

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  9. ' if you're better in the ring than the Miz, you're promoted.'
    *Mojo Rawley and CJ Parker stand in an empty locker room*
    "Helloooooo.....Where's everybody gone?"

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  10. Vince: "So is there anyway to make fake thumbtacks? What if we cut the points off and put on scotch tape?"

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  11. Dammit I was getting mixed up with Daniel. David is the one who appeared on some interview saying his Dad should be in the HOF right?

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  12. Biff Kensington IIIOctober 17, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    You ever catch little things with the product that frustrate you? Completely understand the frustration over characters or the writing, etc. But something that bugs me is the way they do their backstage interviews. Back in the day, everything was steady, with zoom ins for effect when the interview got heated. Now it's someone holding a camera gently swaying back and forth like a foot from the interviewer and interviewee.

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  13. I also love that Benoit thought about it for a second and then agreed.

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  14. I know it's been said ad nauseum around here, but that site has really gone downhill...

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  15. Is TNA really so deep in carny mode that they have to announce they'll be making an announcement?

    That's not even funny. It's just sad. OK, just a little bit funny.

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  16. Mil Mascaras? Really. Are you like 60 and a fan of crappy Mexican wrestling or something

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  18. How do you contextualise that argument though? "Ultimate Warrior is one of the most famous wrestlers ever" is just a blanket platitude without any evidence to substantiate the claim. I'm not arguing that he *isn't*, but it's on his boosters to argue why he *is*, and just saying it doesn't necessarily make it so.

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  19. I bet The Rock has a pie chart. He loves pie.

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  20. Still remember this episode because of the Bulldog turn, it was pretty shocking.

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  21. Really? Arguing Mil Mascaras? One of the greatest draws in the history of his territory for decades?

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  22. Kennedy has a lot of nerve for calling Nova a stooge, when he was the one who stooged out Bob Holly for taking pills out of other wrestler's bags. I do love the fact that Vince himself fired him on his private jet.


    Also I have more respect for MVP for offering Bill DeMott out.

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  23. Already made peace with Punk being an asshole. But what kind of whiny prick writes a paragraph about a known asshole being an asshole? Especially with "I'm a major Punk fan.....how weird, does Punk have this rep or someeeeeethin????" Fucking prick

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  24. I think having a hot storyline that everyone is into is just as important as having a guy people want to see to drawing good houses. The Rude stuff was good but it was just so generic. Warrior had nothing as hot as the Earthquake angle.

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  25. I was thinking that too, especially given this was the go home show for SummerSlam '95 and Luger was actually AT that show doing a run-in on Mo (where he actually missed his cue).

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  26. Camera work in general grinds my gears. The spastic "action camera work" in the ring that they seemingly run hot and cold on anyway.

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  27. Famous people must spend half their fan interaction time waiting for the but, "I'm such a huge fan and love all your movies but...."

    Fucking nightmare that must be.

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  28. Biff Kensington IIIOctober 17, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    They could have some gold with Tyson Kidd. When they eventually do the Natalya split, amp up the crazy and give him an innocent, Elizabeth-type valet who could absorb his cock of the walk, uber-man heelishness. Could be like a poor man's Macho Man and could lead to some good things.

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  29. This is like all of those times that Brad Siegel told everyone at WCW there would be an announcement about the company's impending future.


    Surprise, surprise, the dates would come and go and half the time there were never any announcements.

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  30. Kurt's contract's come up a good 3-5 times since he's been down there. Each time he's been interviewed in the run up to the contract running out "Boy, it's sure be great to wind things up up North"......each time he resigns with TNA...Good for Vince sticking to that one, Kurt still doesn't seem stable enough mentally or physically to make even a short run/HOF seem worth the risk

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  31. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Gunther, I'mma be your wing man for a night. You'll be covered in ladies, because I BO-lieve in you, ma man. Get ready to SUIT UP!

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  32. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    This is like Dre promising that Detox album will be out soon.

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  33. by process of elimination he would have to be

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  34. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 17, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    It's all about who gives me more play, because I'm the most must-see poster at the BoD!


    That gimmick will be over by the end of the day, I expect.

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  35. Eh, agree but then I'd count my money and think about all the women its gotten me. ...where it must suck is lower level wrestlers and reality types who probably have less money than the schlubs talking to them

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  36. I just saw the Stephanie/Teddy Long/Laurinitis/Adam Rose segment from the 15th anniversary of Smackdown. I am sorry, but I love Stephanie, and find her hot. When he started sarcastically dancing to Rose's music, she was awesome.

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  37. Ah, how we long for the days when Dr. Dre still had credibility, before he started putting his name on overpriced headphones.

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  38. Well in fairness, "selling out" is more about accepting money for something which goes against your personal principles more than just making money full stop, but you're not wrong as far as who the people concerned by such issues are.

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  39. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 17, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Anyone here who denies that Steph is a hot piece is being purposefully contrarian. I'd hook up with her in a heartbeat, but I've had a crush on her for about 15 years now.

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  40. The debate was over Sting though, it's not like I'm saying he's less worthy (for whatever that would be to a fake HOF anyway) than barry horowitz or something.

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  41. David is def the one who wants to be a wrestler

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  42. Oh she's hot for sure. That Mania 30 outfit with the tie and the shorts, jesus f'n christ.

    I just wish her and HHH's on air presence did anything to advance storylines or make the TV shows better (aside from her tits bouncing up and down during the dancing segment, of course) instead of just being giant timewasters who've meant shit since pretty much June.

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  43. If all I had to do was slap my name on something and eventually sell it for a billion dollars...shit I'd put my name on dildo's for that money.

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  44. Apart from the Observer Hall of Fame, whose roots lie in the legitimacy of the baseball hall of fame.

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  45. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    I don't see how watching Bewitched will help him get laid, unless you're trying to tell him to put a spell on a woman.

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  46. Yep, they keep making "she's a man" shots, like if she were Nicole Bass or Chyna. I mean come on, yes, she hits the gym a lot, but she is still 100% feminine. Very hot.

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  47. Bewitched? You are telling him to resort to witchcraft?

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  48. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    "Cresto brand vibrators. Because when you think of a huge dildo, you think Cresto."

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  49. I would gladly take my try at getting her to scream "WHATAMANEUVER!"

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  50. I'll take that check now.

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  51. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    She has moments of fuckability.

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  52. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    No love for TL Hopper or The Goon?

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  53. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    TTTGGI


    *Top 3 Handshake*


    ...and stop pissing on my tires.

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  54. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    HHH runs NXT in the way he wants to see wrestling. WWE is run in the way Vince wants to see wrestling.

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  55. I can't help it, they spin and it makes me have to go!

    :: Top 3 Handshake ::

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  56. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 17, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    I think the more relevant question is why was Chris Jericho doing the Doink gimmick?

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  57. I didn't know roofies were referred to as putting a spell on a woman...and I've said too much


    ::bottom 5 smokebomb::

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  58. Or like Cannon Films promising that Spider-Man would most definitely be released in theaters in 1988. That took roughly 14 years. It took so long that the delay actually outlived Cannon Films.

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  59. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    So did you eat the food before or after you kicked her out?

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  60. You think Undertaker would rather a fan go "Hey Mark!" or "Taker, whats up?!"

    Honestly

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  61. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    HEY! That's MY gimmick now!

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  62. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 17, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Comment of the Day killed Farva?!?

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  63. I never said the guy was perfect.

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  64. RIP Farva

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  65. They need JD Dunn and Arnold Furious back ASAP.

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  66. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    Of course back in the day that wasn't such a bad thing to be...see Mr. Perfect, Tito Santana.

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  67. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    "Mr. UHF"

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  68. Sundays at 1am Pacific on FS2: Impact Wrestling.

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  69. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 17, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    So not MUST-SEE right here.

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  70. I like riding Amtrak for the relative comfort, but they dont give a shit about being on time.. Riding at night is the worse.. the train moves at a crawl and stops in the middle of nowhere for no apparent reason. I know it has something to do with freight trains, but it is ridiculous..

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  71. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    Yeah. Because Terry Funk needs another retirement.

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  72. Kennedy is a shithead who puts his foot in his mouth constantly. Like when he did all that media after the Benoit murders saying how he's clean and no one's using steroids, etc...then gets suspended for wellness.

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  73. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    See the Terry Funk Ric Flair I quit match I think that had no blood.

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  74. You keep forgetting to carry the one.

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  75. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Putting a 'z" in stead of an 's' at the end of words = from the streets, yo.

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  76. I don't know if Luger was wasted, the guy was given the super-hero push less than a year after his debut. He could have been used better around the end but he also had an expiring contract so that probably played a role in why he wasn't featured quite as much. And internet rumor is that Vince liked Scott Steiner and wanted to do something with him but that he didn't want to break up the team - I can see why Vince didn't see Rick Steiner, Tully and Arn as WWF Superstars.

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  77. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 17, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    "Even if he hadn't been in, Montreal alone would have made him a slam dunk inclusion for historical reasons alone."


    So refusing to job means you should be in the HOF? Isn't that sort of behavior what kept HBK out for years?


    Also, while I couldn't give a shit about Sting or the WON, if fucking Foley is in Sting should be too.

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  78. That is what is up!

    #WhiteGuyTryingToSoundStreet

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  79. Sorry I wasn't aiming that at you. Just frustrated with HHH at times.
    I did agree with your post about the Divas. I still cringe, though, when I see someone like Eve, or Alicia Fox wrestle. I'm always afraid someone will break their neck.

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  80. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Read this article "Beatings by Dre" a list of women Dr. Dre beat up: https://medium.com/@byroncrawford/beatings-by-dr-dre-3c8e62bec8f1

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  81. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 17, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    I was just going by the reports. Fine, "mentally challenged", whatever, like a give the tiniest shit about P.C. language.

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  82. I'd call the Observer a legit hall of fame. It's voted on, it requires a certain percentage of votes which is pretty high. It's very unlikely anyone undeserving will ever get in. He was famous very briefly, but in 2005 he was considered something of a joke, and though his image has obviously been rehabbed in recent months, he hasn't actually done anything himself worthy of being in there. Goldberg won't ever be in there either, and he was as popular as Warrior if not moreso for a brief period.

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  83. Maybe now that you are the most must see poster on the BoD?

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  84. So, you're Doink now? That really sucks man... you need to talk to Vince about that. Why are you Doink? You're such a great talent.

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  85. "Locker Room Leaders" ... SMFH.

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  86. The real question is if she is a dom or a sub... like she comes off as a dom but I think she seems like the kind that secretly wants to be controlled.

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  87. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 17, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    For 2 billion or whatever he sold Beats for you can have my credibility.

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  88. So, WCW gimmick battle royal is now booked for WM, and that will be something Sting can win.

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  89. IF I had to put money on it: Switch.

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  90. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 17, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    I totally got in trouble for that in school. They called my parents in and told them what happened. My dad told them that I should get a fucking medal for standing up for myself instead of just being bullied, and then bullied again by the idiot teacher.


    That nun never bothered me again.

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  91. Oh there's a huge double-standard when it comes to Bret/Shawn, where Shawn's the asshole because rumor is that he didn't want to do jobs or because he had to be threatened into doing a job that he rehabed a career-ending back injury to do, while Bret very openly refused to do a job for no logical reason and that's totally cool. Say what you will about Shawn but he never refused to job to the point they had to double-cross him in the ring.

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  92. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 17, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Haw haw, pilled up Shawn is funny :)

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  93. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 17, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    She can get in line now!

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  94. There are a lot of contradictions, that I just think speak to the fact that people can be a lot of things at once...


    Like Nova talks about WWE's carny bullshit, and not liking certain WWE practices while praising Vince, Big Johnny, Steph, and Triple H as good people...


    or how Undertaker simultaneously comes off as a ruthless bully who torments young talent and a model employee who acts as a big brother/coach for younger talent

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  95. It's still just autistic. It isn't about being PC it's about not being a jack ass. The reports did not read "retarded."

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  96. Bret said he would job to anyone, anywhere, at any time except Shawn on that one night in Montreal.

    Shawn vacated several titles, refused to job to Bulldog in the UK after promising to, and after Bulldog had dedicated the match to his relative dying of cancer, and almost refused to even lose to Austin until apparently Undertaker threatened to end him.

    It's not the same.

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  97. Its time for her to get down on her knees and...

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  98. I've said multiple times that I'd vote for Sting. I just don't think he has a shot.

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  99. I hate that hypocrite. He attaches himself to global concerns but loves getting paid by Apple, a company that treats its factory workers so deplorably that they commit suicide based on working conditions.

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  100. See, this is where all this wrestling Hall of Fame business gets silly. It is not quantifiable in the way legitimate sports are quantifiable because there are no metrics for competition. Wrestling is theatrical performance, so all judgments on performance are subjective. In that regard, it's much closer to the Hollywood Walk of Fame than the Baseball Hall of Fame (both of which are hardly without major flaws, by the way).

    In terms of transcending the insular universe of wrestling and penetrating the popular consciousness outside of wrestling, the Ultimate Warrior cleared that bar better than almost anyone on the WON list. Go look at all the press when he died and there's little doubt. He was even a major subject in an ABC network sitcom this year. I can't imagine it's a controversial claim to say that he's easily one of the most mainstream wrestlers in the past 30 years.

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  101. Take away the allure of her power and status, she's about a 6, in my opinion. I look at her and just think, "Meh, she's kinda pretty." And the more she talks, the quicker that 6 drops lower. I'd be willing to wager that a large chunk of us have had someone better than a 6 at one point in their life.

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  102. Yes, Bret would job to anyone at any time except to the guy he was asked to job to in the place he was asked to do it at. So would he have lost to Shawn in Detroit? Would he have lost to Austin in Montreal? The guy's leaving the company - not only leaving the company, he's leaving the company and he's the champion - in what world does he think he doesn't have to lose the belt?

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  103. Someone will turn on him and throw him out.

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  104. ...except when seeing the cleavage canyon OR when she lumbers around in pants suits like she's sasquatch

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  105. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©October 17, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    He was a moderator for it.

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  106. Also watch because it was freaking awesome!

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  107. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©October 17, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Yeah, Taker would be better.

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  108. I don't know about Detroit, but he offered to lose the title to Shawn at the MSG show the week later. His only condition was not to Shawn in Canada.

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  109. But it doesn't expose the business at all. So some people are not good at being wrestlers, but they try anyway. I stick to my "makes no sense" argument.

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  110. There was also the rumour of Bret jumping to WCW in 1991 and taking the IC belt with him, so let's not pretend Bret is an angel in matters like jobbing

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  111. Yup, you got me. In fact, I was pretty sure no one else even knew about him, but because I like Mexican wrestling so much, I just put his name on the list.


    Then, just for the hell of it, I looked him up. Turns out he is one of the most famous people in the world. Huh. Who knew?!?


    Okay, enough from me. Back to my NCIS marathon and renewing my AARP membership.

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  112. I think it's the Jim Cornette shoot, but someone talked about Bret being asked to lose the title the night before Survivor Series and him balking at that because it would disappoint the Canadian fans expecting him to show up as champion. So he had an excuse for everything.

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  113. In his book he talks about talking to WCW or coming close to going to WCW at least 3 times before Montreal.

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  114. I've never heard that before, and it contradicts a lot of what others have said before, as well as the huge piece Meltzer did on it at the time. I'll check that out though.

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  115. Well I can see how that unsubstantiated rumour creates a moral equivalence with actual Shawn behaviour.

    Disclaimer: I love both guys. They've both made peace with each other. Shawn admits he was a "piece o' trash" during this entire period.

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  116. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    I don't think Spider Lady was the biggest angle of all time, but to each his own

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  117. Shawn admits to being a shitty person at the time and I think that's what clouds opions on the subject. Everytime Shawn won a match it was because he was an asshole who refused to job but if you go back and watch him week to week after his 1997 heel turn the guy played a chicken shit who ran away from fights and needed HHH and Chyna to save him during matches - he didn't even go over Ken Shamrock in their pay per view match. Bret just seemed to believe anytime it wasn't all about him it was some sort of injustice which set off a war with the drug addicted asshole who he felt took his spot. But personal issues aside there's nothing wrong with Vince going with Shawn over Bret or expecting Bret to lose the tite on his way out of the company.

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  118. Sting main-evented what was (please correct me if I'm wrong) the highest-drawing WCW PPV of all time.

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  119. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    Amusing last line:

    WWE is promoting the Randy Orton Vine videos because Orton himself is sharing them online. WWE wanted to get ahead of the trend. WWE is usually too late to get involved with social media trends.

    Credit: PWInsider via Wrestlezone

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  120. And maybe he shouldn't have said "hey phil" like there best friends or something. I have no problem with punk ignoring him.

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  121. If you were really 60 you'd be watching MASH not NCIS

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  122. I was trying to find my favorite fake Bret Hart self-commentary. I haven't found it yet, but here's a few I did find.

    "After the barbecue, Harley, with tears in his eyes, confided in me that my burgers were the best he's ever tasted, and I deserved to be WWF Champion. That's why I was shocked a couple of weeks later when I heard Shawn had been over to Vince's house and had, according to Shane, barbecued burgers. 'That's bullshit', I said to myself. 'Everyone in that goddamn dressing room knows I make the greatest burgers of all time!' It was right then and there that I realized they were out to screw me."

    Bret Hart once caught a burglar who tried to steal his WWF Championship belt. He carried him to classic scuffle and afterwards, at the police station, with tears in his eyes, the burglar confessed not only to the crime but that after defending his belt Bret truly deserved to be WWF Champion.

    "Back in the dressing room, Razor was singing my praises and thanking me for carrying him to the best match of his career in front of the boys, while I was thinking up spots for my next match with Curt. Just then, Hulk walked in, with his 4-year-old son Nick and Brutus Beefcake in tow. Hogan made small talk and shook some hands, pretending to be one of the boys, before asking where Vince was. On the way out of the locker-room Hogan and Beefcake caught a glimpse of the chalkboard where earlier in the day I'd drawn one of my all-time classic cartoons, this one depicting Hogan fucking Beefcake in the ass until his surgically repaired face fell off. Beefcake hung his head in shame as he walked away, while Hogan shot me a look of defiance before telling Nick to hang out in the dressing room while he talked to Vince.

    It was then that I noticed Nick was carrying the WWF Championship belt. 'Who does this little bastard think he is?', I thought to myself. 'That's my belt!'. I sat, quietly, watching Nick running around the dressing room, calling himself the champion, rubbing it in my face. One by one he'd walk up to wrestlers and say 'I'm the best!', before giggling and running away. 'He better not pull that shit with me', I quietly whispered to Crush, who was sitting next to me preparing for his match with Shawn.

    Finally Nick came bouncing past me. I grabbed him by the shoulder and asked him, sternly, why he had that belt. 'Because I'm the Champion!', he said. 'That's bullshit!', I yelled, while standing up and backing him into a corner. 'Everyone in this god-damn dressing room knows that I'm the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be!. You know it, I know it, your father knows it, every one of those fans out there know it, and don't you forget it!'. It felt good to finally stand up for myself. Nick, with tears welling up in his eyes, couldn't even look me in the face before breaking out into full blown tears and running out of the dressing room, screaming for Hogan.

    As I walked back to my seat I looked around the dressing room and saw nothing but stunned faces. The boys couldn't believe I'd finally stood up for myself, putting Hogan in his place as I'm sure they all wished they could do themselves. Shawn, for his part, couldn't look me in the face before excusing himself to go to catering where, I was later disappointed to learn, he drank half a can of Diet Coke before throwing out the rest. 'That's bullshit', I thought. 'If you're not going to drink the whole thing don't waste it.' It was things like this that made me wonder about Shawn's character."

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  123. Wait, people under 60 watch NCIS?

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  124. Apparently Orton vs. Cena is actually going on last at Hell in a Cell. So that means Cena is 100% winning!

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  125. Steph is so hot. I'd say she's hotter now that the early 2000's.

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  126. I get the sense that Nova just sits around and watched shoot interviews when he's bored. I like that.

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  127. The last time I've seen a crowd go from that excited to that disappointed so quickly was #30 at the last Rumble. I know there's valid arguments against Sting in the Observer HoF, but I watch that clip, and I think, if a guy is that beloved in a company he never wrestled in, a decade and a half after his prime, then maybe his impact is greater than some people believe.

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  128. Does Sony have any good IP's currently? It seems like every game for PS4 is either a shooter or a sports game. What happened to Crash Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon?

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  129. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    None of this is really Sting's fault, but he did nothing to build the match besides sit around for 18 months and point bats at people, the match was the worst booked match in wrestling history, and you could have probably put any number of guys in Sting's spot and it would have worked just the same. Sting doesn't really deserve any credit for it, nor should he want to considering what a shitshow it turned out being.

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  130. At this point giving Ryback a new singles push would be like when a married couple has a baby to avoid getting a divorce.

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  131. I'm glad you brought back the diet coke one. That's my personal favorite. It gets me everytime.

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  132. But he never leaves money on the table.

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  133. I don't think a resurgence of women's wrestling in WWE is out of the question. The indie scene is full of really good female workers right now, and plenty of them are attractive enough for WWE standards. Between that and SDR training the women, not to mention TV-PG putting a limit on what they can do with the women on the show, there's a shot. I honestly think it'll get better once Triple H and Steph have full control; between a wrestling traditionalist and woman poised to run the company, I'd imagine there's gotta be some level of respect for female workers there. Not to mention that Total Divas is gonna run its course eventually, although there's always a chance for a similarly-themed replacement.

    It's interesting to me how many failed attempts there were at replicating Trish and Lita. They've had a dozen models they plucked straight from the catalogs and expected would develop into the worker and personality that Trish did, and there's been nearly as many spunky tomboys they hoped would catch on with the girls the way Lita did.

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  134. A lot of wrestlers watch them from what I've heard

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  135. Well he spent most of his career with the Smackdown championship which might as well have been the IC title at the time.

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  136. Has there ever been a wrestler who's reputation was more damaged with time and perspective than Bret?

    Excluding Benoit, for obvious reasons.

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  137. It's Friday!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS6wZl7G-QE

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  138. It all work out in the end, right? Right?!

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  139. No--Sting had a relationship with the fans prior to turning into "Crow Sting" that made the whole angle work. The fans wouldn't have bought into the angle if it were Lex Luger or anyone else in Sting's place. Sting played his role to perfection leading up to the match and absolutely deserves credit, along with Hulk Hogan, for that buyrate.

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  140. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

    Uncharted, God of War, Little Big Planet, Infamous

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  141. Hogan main-evented the previous Starrcade, also with the white-hot nWo angle, just with a different opponent, and it didn't draw as well.

    Sting got the best match out of Hogan that anyone was at the time, screwiness and all.

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  142. Flair is up there. All of the personal issues have really hurt him.

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  143. Flair and Hart are the two big ones.
    They were virtually untouchable for 20 years, and now we mock.

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  144. The idea that Bret's involvement in the screwjob makes him historically significant enough to have a place in the HoF seems silly to me, especially since that resulted in a whole lot of nothing for him in WCW followed by an awful match with Vince McMahon years later. Certainly, McMahon's involvement helped him--but Bret's involvement in the screwjob was not positive for his career.


    By this same logic though, Sting's historical significance as the perceived face of WCW (whether you think he was their most important wrestler or not--popular memory still equate Sting with WCW) makes him historically significant enough to include in the Hall.

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  145. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    I hate that the format is simply "interviewe asks a question, wrestler cuts a promo". I miss Mean Gene making it like an actual interview, including voicing his own two cents (esp with Macho Man), or stuff like The Rock fucking around with Coach every week

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  146. It's their own DAMN FAULT!


    Especially Bret....because HE WAS TOO DAMN SELFISH!


    (Thus being kicked in his leg out of his leg.)

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  147. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    Because the NXT girls can wrestle and very few on the main roster cannot.

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  148. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    Upvoted then removed just to upvote again

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  149. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    People can sit there and make a claim for Seinfeld or Friends being the official BoD sitcom, but my money is on Cos

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  150. Thanks, brother!

    Jammin' On The One!

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  151. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    Just watched season 4 intro, which has Cos showing Denise imprisoned like the bad guys from Superman II

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  152. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    J-J-J-JAMMIN ON THE ONE

    I still have no idea what that means

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  153. I love season five's intro. So tropical!

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  154. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    Has there ever been a greater TV mom than Clair?

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  155. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    I'd say my least favorite intro is the last season.

    THANKS, COUSIN PAM

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  156. No one does.

    You kind of look like what Rudy's friend Peter would look like as a grown-up!

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  157. Yeah, that one sucked. Even the first one, which looked low-budget as hell, had some charm.

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  158. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Jammin' on the season with the Apollo.

    Tempest Bledsoe gets down.

    THAT'S THE BEST ELEVATOR MUSIC I EVER HEARD

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  159. I don't know, even when WCW started bringing in big names there was a sense among WCW fans that Sting was their guy - I think that's what makes the angle work.

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  160. That one is really good, too.

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  161. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    I LOVE the 1st season.

    So 80's!!!

    There are slightly different versions of it, too

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  162. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    What is the best intro for everyone?

    6-7 for me. THIS IS THE BEST ELEVATOR MUSIC I EVER HEARD

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  163. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    Except for Season 8, they're ALL really good

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  164. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    I JUST SAID THAT

    But it's OK b/c it bears repeating

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  165. Five is up there for me. Plus the one I posted.

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  166. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    Quick, say something to scare him and we'll see if he takes off like Peter!

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  167. We're going to the dentist!

    Or

    I forgot to put the lid on the blender!

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  168. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Wouldnt I need to be white to look like that?

    *runs out of room*

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  169. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    I hear they were considering a very special episode where Peter got hit by a car during one of the times when he freaked out and ran out of the house across the street

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  170. It's what you say when you go to a party. Really cool stuff, Theo.

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  171. That episode with Rudy's sleepover and the bucking horse...classic.

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  172. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    YOURE GONNA DO IT BECAUSE I SAID SO

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  173. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    I was just thinking of that!

    Exclamation points!

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  174. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    Hi Peter. How's the wife and kids?

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  175. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    They're all BIIIIIIIIIIG FUN

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  176. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    WHATS ALICIA KEYS DOING IN THE COSBY ZONE, TAZZ?!

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  177. LOL...I was just about to mention her! My mom would always say that the girl looked like a boy...and it's Alicia Keys!

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  178. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    I wonder whatever happened to the nice old waiter who went and got the kids burgers from across the street



    CIRCUS BURGER


    It was also at Circus Burger where Theo and Cockroach made fun of that girl

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  179. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    Didn't know that

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  180. I would go to town on those burgers those kids got.

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  181. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    "Hey kids, meet Grandpa Murphy!"
    "But we have three grandpas already!"

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  182. Who in their right mind would want to take a 75,000 dollar pay cut? I'm not buying that. Doesn't the lowest of the low make at least 100 grand? Nova was definitely in that tier but who knows.

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  183. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    Hillman is so small that not only does the president of the school knows all of the family, he knows them well enough to scold one of them for going to another university

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  184. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    Let me get my sweater.

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  185. From what I gathered, he thought he could take indy dates like Dreamer but they said no and I think that was what he was getting at with regards to the pay cut.

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  186. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    Thinking about it, that phone behind the couch was a major prop

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  187. I still wanted to go to Hillman, though. Everyone seemed so caring!

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  188. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    She should have thought twice about doing that nude scene and piercing her nose.

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  189. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    Plus Marissa Tomei went there for a year

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  190. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    I love the way his hat twitches as he drops the photo, almost as a troll move

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  191. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyOctober 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    I wasn't sure how many children Benoit had as I know he had at least one marriage before Nancy.

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  192. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    I bought a Hillman shirt at Comiccon. White people ask me all the time where that school is located and if I'm alumni.

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  193. There's also a huge double standard with you, where you to refuse to accept any bad story about Shawn.


    One of the reasons Bret didn't want to job to HBK is because of his refusal to never do jobs

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  194. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    I blame Lenny Kravitz

    She was gonna go his way

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  195. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    Angel Heart is a better movie than just about any Cosby film. Even Ghost Dad.

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  196. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonOctober 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    It's funny how that ecclectic "artsy" style Denise had is so commonplace now. She's at least a decade ahead of her time.

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