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Assorted April Countdown: 1996

(2012 Scott sez:  It’s kind of tough to do a connecting theme for months where there’s no big history behind them, but there’s been some interesting PPVs in April for WWE, so we’ll give it a go.)
The Netcop Retro Rant for In Your House VII: Good Friends, Better Enemies.  (April of 1996!) 
- Live from Omaha, Nebraska.
- Your hosts are Vince McMahon & Jerry Lawler
- This would be the farewell show for both Diesel & Razor Ramon, as they departed for WCW in what was supposed to be a minor defection and ended up turning the company around. Sound familiar? Well, not that the WWF needs turning around these days, but hopefully someone at WCW was watching RAW on Monday night and paying attention to the response for the Radicals got, one that they couldn’t get in WCW due to politics. (Ah, politics.)  Anyway, in the Survivor Series 95 rant, I commented that the Bret v. Diesel match there was Diesel’s second-best ever, and that he had a better one with Michaels. Many have e-mailed to ask what that one was, and herein lies the answer.
- Free 4 All match: 1-2-3 Kid v. Wildman Marc Mero.
This is Marc’s PPV debut after jumping from WCW due to squabbling with Eric Bischoff and working most of the internet in the process. Hey, Marc, guess who’s laughing at who now? (I’m pretty sure Sable is laughing at Marc from her giant house in Minnesota as well.)  Karate showboating from the Kid to start. Quick sequence puts Mero in control with a flying headscissors that sends the Kid to the floor. Mero follows with a tope suicida. Slingshot legdrop gets two. Reverse rollup gets two. He goes aerial and gets crotched, then HHH (Mero’s first feud) makes an appearance. Kid hits some vicious kicks to take over as HHH stalks Sable. Mero escapes and goes to confront Hunter, and gets nailed by the Kid from behind. The ref tosses HHH, and Mero mounts the comeback. HHH runs in for the lame DQ at 7:20 of what was looking to be a great match. *** (Future) DX beatdown follows on Mero.  (This would have been pretty late in the Kid’s WWF run, if not the last appearance of him, in fact.) 
- Opening match: The British Bulldog & Owen Hart v. Jake Roberts & Ahmed Johnson.
(What a stupid choice for an opener.)  Johnson was getting into Goldberg territory of overness at this point, although his work was stiff and sloppy, a dangerous combination. (So like Goldberg, basically.)  Bulldog had the issue with Ahmed over arm-wrestling (gotta love the mid-90s WWF) so Bulldog hides on the apron and lets Owen handle things. That goes pretty badly for him, as Ahmed tosses him around like a doll and then Jake nearly gets the DDT. Some cheapshots from Bulldog finally allow him to come in without fear of death. (Poor choice of words there, as it would turn out.  Sad face.)  Ahmed plays face-in-peril for a bit, but doesn’t really sell anything and soon tags out to Jake and he gets beat on for a long while. Jake’s mobility is so limited by age and alcohol at this point it’s scary. Not as scary as Heroes of Wrestling, but scary. The match drags on and on. Ahmed gets the hot tag and screams a lot. Jake inexplicably comes back in to finish things, but takes a LOADED TENNIS RACKET OF DOOM to the knee and submits to a lame kneebar at 13:43. Just way too long. ¾*  (I’ve always wondered about the physics behind the loaded tennis racket.  Wouldn’t in fact an unloaded racket be more aerodynamic and thus has more impact?  That’s the whole POINT of the tennis racket, to slice through the air and deliver a set amount of force to a small area.) 
- Intercontinental title match: Goldust v. Ultimate Warrior.
You know how some matches are so bad that they’re good? Well, this is so bad that it’s just BAD. Goldust has a knee injury, so the “match” is literally him walking around the ring and stalling for FIFTEEN MINUTES to waste time. Finally he gets counted out to put us out of our misery. That’s all, folks. -***** How hard would it have been to say “Goldust is injured, so Warrior is fighting [x]”?  (This was literally not even a match, so perhaps the full negative monty is a bit unfair.  Not by much, mind you.) 
- Vader v. Razor Ramon.
This was Graceful Job-Out #1 on the night, as Razor was wooed by WCW a few months before this. (Funny how Hall was such a problem to WWF around this time and a constant source of embarrassment with the drug issues and rehab, but when WCW made an offer suddenly he was an incredibly valuable part of the team and Vince started crying about tampering and unfair practices.)  Ramon bumps around for Vader to start, as Vader basically squashes him. Ramon punches a lot to come back. Three clotheslines put Vader on the floor. Vader stalls. Cornette’s help allows Vader to continue his destruction of Ramon. Vaderbomb gets two. Ramon gets a vertical suplex to come back. Powerslam as Vader is coming off the 2nd rope gets two. Bulldog gets two. He tries the Razor’s Edge, but his ribs give out and he collapses. Vader goes for the moonsault, but Ramon brings him down the hard way. Razor’s Edge attempt #2, but Vader backdrops out and sits on him for the pin at 14:47. The selling and psychology were sound enough for a good rating, but the match was REALLY boring. ***  (Sounds high to me.  Like Hall.  HEY OH!) 
- WWF tag team title match: The Bodydonnas v. The Godwinns.
This was a rematch from the finals of the inaugural “Placeholder champions until Billy Gunn’s injury heals” tournament at Wrestlemania 12. (Man, things were so pathetic back then that the tag title match got bumped to the Wrestlemania pre-show!  How stupid and backwards were the mid-90s.  Thank god things aren’t like that today, and…uh…never mind.)  Zip gets double-teamed to start as Vince says “scufflin’” about 14 times. What the hell is with him and hillbilly gimmicks, anyway? Are the southern states REALLY so much of a hotbed that he has to tailor entire gimmicks for them? The story here is that Phineas is in love with Sunny. Just give her some crack, Phineas, that’ll bring her around. (Tammy actually got somewhat sober again in the new century before seemingly going crazy and attempting to hire New Jack to kill her ex-boyfriend.  Allegedly.  Her Facebook page is a constant source of humor and I’m constantly disappointed that she hasn’t gone on Twitter to work out her crazy yet.)  Highlight of the mostly-comedy match sees HOG pull out an Ocean Cyclone suplex (picture a german suplex, but starting with the opponent face-down on the mat) as the farmers dominate the champs. This whole period for the titles was a trainwreck, as the Bodydonnas were not over and Vince had no desire to help them become so (Cloudy, anyone?) and the Godwinns were, well, the Godwinns. Thank god for the New Rockers to save the tag division in 96. (I think I was being sarcastic there, but sometimes I can’t even tell myself.)  The champs cheat and gain the advantage. Phineas gets all “riled up” (seriously, is this whole gimmick like one big cheapshot at Ted Turner or something?) (Yeah.)  and hot tags HOG, but Sunny had conveniently brought a framed, autographed 8x10 of herself to ringside (which probably wasn’t far from the truth at the time) and uses it to distract PIG while the Bodydonnas pull the switcheroo and pin HOG at 7:12. Soo-ey, that sucked… ½*
- WWF World title match: Shawn Michaels v. Diesel.
This is the ultimate blowoff for their long-simmering feud, as Diesel was leaving for WCW and made it known that he was on one final run of destruction before he left. Shawn was hot off beating Bret Hart at WM12 and needed credibility. (And about 5 years’ worth of maturity.)  This is no-holds-barred. Shawn uses his speed to avoid Diesel, then dropkicks him out and hits a moonsault tope onto him. He steals a boot from Hugo Savinovich and nails Diesel for two. Diesel gets pissed and knocks Shawn onto the railing, then tosses him back in and absolutely wallops him. Shawn sells like he’s dead. Diesel keeps shooting evil glances at Vince. Jumping side slam nearly puts Shawn though the mat, then Diesel undoes his wrist tape…and chokes out Hebner! He steals Earl’s belt and lays in some wicked shots on Shawn, then hangs him from the top rope and ties him there. As Shawn struggles to free himself, Diesel calmly grabs a chair and blasts Shawn. Back in for another solid chairshot. Lord, what a beating. One more, but Shawn ducks and Shawn gets the chair. That proves temporary, as a low blow gets two for Diesel. Diesel absolutely lays into him with forearms, sending him crashing to the floor. Vince keeps yelling at Shawn to “stay down”. Cool spot of the year: Diesel starts a long tradition, powerbombing Shawn through the announce table. He parades around with the title belt while Shawn, who is nearly dead, pulls himself out of the wreckage. Vince, his own microphone dead, does his usual awesome acting job, yelling “Just let it be over!” at Shawn. Shawn crawls to the ring, and finds a fire extinguisher, which he discharges into Diesel’s face. Flying forearm puts him down, and Shawn grabs a chair to even the odds. Two vicious shots follow, but Diesel won’t go down, and in fact hits the big foot to the face right away to KO Shawn. He takes too long, however, and Shawn escapes the powerbomb. Flying elbow sets up Sweet Chin Music, but Diesel calmly grabs his foot and rips his head off with a lariat. What is this, All Japan? He tosses Shawn out again and drops him on the railing, then gets inspired. He heads over to the front row and beats up Maurice Vachon, who is seated ringside, and STEALS HIS ARTIFICIAL LEG. Major, major heel heat for that. Shawn lowblows him, however, and steals the leg. He knocks Diesel cold with a shot from the leg, then waits for him to recover, warms up the band, and superkicks him for the pin to retain at 17:51. He didn’t win the match, he SURVIVED it. What a horrific beating and an AWESOME brawl. ****3/4 Shawn’s “in your FACE!” post-match celebration is amazing acting on his part, too, and it really makes the match.  (Yeah, I reviewed this one again recently for Vintage Collection, and it’s truly one of Nash’s best matches ever.  A lot of people think that it doesn’t hold up today, but they didn’t wrestle for internet nerds like us watching 16 years later and it was an awesome brawl for the time.) 
The Bottom Line: Most of the show is pretty worthless, but that brawl is something else and sets the tone for garbage main events to follow for years to come. In the next in my little In Your House series, I’ll look at an even BETTER Shawn brawl from a few months later against Mankind. As it is, I’m still in shock to this day that Shawn won Match of the Year for the Wrestlemania match rather than the Diesel or the Mankind one. As it was, however, this match, rather than the Bret one, was the one that really put Shawn over the top as a credible champion and got him over. I wonder if that pissed Bret off?
Recommended only for the main event.

Comments

  1. If you look up "one match show" in the dictionary, what picture should you see: A pic of this show, or of WM 13?

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  2. It's crazy how Backlash lasted so long that it was starting to build up some history like the big 4 until they killed it.

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  3. That tag match at Maina 13 has some redeeming qualities, and the Ahmed/LOD/NOD six-man brawl is a fun in a garbagy kind of way, so this show. 

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  4. It always annoyed me how the Kid/Mero was shown on the Free For All and with a DQ finish because since Kid was leaving, it would have been a good time to do the whole passing the high flyer torch to Mero.

    And I agree on the *** you gave Ramon/Vader as it was a pretty good match and I'm sad they couldn't have had an extended program with one another as both guys had good chemistry with each other.

    And the New Rockers were great and they had the potential to save the tag team division, but idiots booking the shows didn't see that same star potential as they treated the Rockers as the jobbers of the tag team division.

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  5.  Agreed, I was saddened when they dropped Backlash too and I was kind of surprised they dropped it since I thought that PPV drew pretty decent B-PPV buyrates for the most part.

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  6.  Or Mind Games from later in the year.

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  7. no way, man.  that Lothario v. Cornette match was TITS.

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  8. I'm sorry, but I just can't give the Shawn v Diesel match more than 4 stars. I love hardcore brawls, but this whole match was Shawn getting the shit kicked out of him, and getting lucky, that's all. Bret vs Diesel was a hell of a lot better, I think.

    Also, who do you think came up with the use-the-fake-foot spot? I mean, if Mad Dog didn't come up with it, that means someone had to come up to him and ask "Hey, can we rip off your prosthetic limb and use it in the match?"

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  9. Same for No Way Out in February. I would love to know the thinking behind changing the show from No Way Out with Elimination Chamber matches to naming the show Elimination Chamber...like why? At least No Way Out brought with it some history.

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  10. Badd Blood (first HIAC). Brutal up to the main event, although there were certainly extenuating circumstances (Pillman's death).

    And 1-2-3 Kid appeared on 1 or 2 more Raws after this, appearing to be about 165 pounds in the process.

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  11.  Add me to the chorus that misses "Backlash".  Many years, it was a much better show than WM and I wish it was still around.  The problem with renaming some of the ppvs is that they ignore historical references to the previous incarnation of the ppv in the same month.

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  12. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyApril 8, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    I don't know much about the circumstances behind the prosthetic limb spot during that match but I have read about another time Vachon's prosthetic limb was used during the Over The Edge 98 Pay Per View. If anyone remembers they were doing a tribute to various legends including Vachon which ended with Jerry Lawler stealing his prosthetic limb. In Lawler's autobiography he states that it was never pre-planned that way and it was basically Vince ordering Lawler to do it over the headset because he thought it would be funny! As big a genius Vince is there are times where he really does reveal himself to be a miserable piece of shit human being. How contradictory is it to have a moment to honour legends that helped build and mould what would eventually become Vince's empire only to play a nasty practical joke for Vince's own personal shits and giggles? 

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  13. Well, this IS a business where guys have regularly played ribs that resulted in destruction of personal property over the years.  How many times have we heard guys admit to using their own piss and shit in their practical jokes?  Forcing Lawler to steal a guy's prosthetic foot sounds terrible to regular people, but in the context of the wrestling business, it's pedestrian.

    Which is really fucked up.

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  14. I think if Bourne hadn't fucked up we might have gotten a tag title match at Mania.  Otherwise we'll probably get a good idea of how the division will be in the coming weeks.  I don't know if they plan on debuting a few new teams from FCW or just team up some existing guys after the Draft (if there is one this year) and the post-Mania talent cuts.

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  15. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyApril 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    This is very true. I've never understood why so many wrestlers are obsessed with basing practical jokes around various bodily fluids?  

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  16.  I prefer the Bret/Diesel matches over Shawn/Diesel series too. Bret made it believable that he could take on Diesel in a real fight using actual wrestling holds, whereas the HBK/Diesel match just seemed like a cool movie fight scene or something.

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  17. This repost was a pleasant surprise. I love HBK/Diesel, but at the time we all knew Nash was leaving and had no chance in hell of winning, so that kind of spoiled the fun watching it live. Though had the match happened 2 years later Nash almost certainly would have won, just to swerve us.

    The whole tennis racket thing always bothered me. I mean, of all the sporting equipment you can nail someone with (baseball bat, hockey stick, pool ball in a sock, etc...), a tennis racket? Even if it is loaded, just seemed really stupid to me. And why would Cornette be carrying it around anyway? Was he a hotshot tennis player as a kid and wanted to re-live his youth? I just didn't get it.

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  18. I really think the best thing they could do is hook up Rey Mysterio and Sin Cara as a tag team.  Have Ziggler and Swagger pick up the tag titles and get a really solid run going until Cara re-debuts.  Have the two target him for whatever reason.  Rey makes the save one day, and you play up that Rey is mentoring Cara.  It gives you a high profile feud with some top guys to help reestablish the titles and Cara gets some more seasoning.

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  19. I think it was just a subtle reminder that JC was a wimp, since only sissies play tennis. (Keep in mind where Cornette cut his teeth; the NWA, home to southern wrasslin fans who consider driving 500 miles in an oval a "real man's sport".)

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  20.  And this is why ratings are like beauty, it's all in the eye of the beholder.  I mean, Caliber, you have HBK-Flair 5*s, right?

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  21. WWE used to be really good at booking NWO as well. It helped build to WM but didn't just seem like a stop-gap after the Rumble. In 1999 you had the first proper Austin-McMahon match (plus the Rock-Mankind feud continued), Foley-HHH HITC in 2000, Austin-HHH in 2001, the nWo in 2002, Rock-Hogan II in 2003 and Eddie's first title win in 2004. Then they got crap and needed to use the Elimination Chamber gimmick to make up for the lack of creativity.

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  22. Tammy Sytch will never be confused for a bastion of great behavior, but I'm pretty sure it was Terri Runnels who got caught up with New Jack.

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  23. Say what you will about Vince McMahon as an announcer, but I think the main event features his best commentary job ever and his rooting for Shawn only adds to the drama of the match.

    "Just let it be over! Let it be over, Shawn!"

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  24. Remind me again, who did Bradshaw try to fake rape in the shower?

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  25. Rey and Cara is a great idea for a tag team but to be honest Ziggler needs to get away from Vickie and Swagger sooner rather than later.  Although with the news that Barrett will be getting a title push when he comes back around July maybe it's best to keep Dolph with the group till they have room for him at the top of the card.

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  26. How many other matches has Scott given -***** to? The only other one I can remember is the Heroes of Wrestling main event.

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  27. If I remember right in Shawn's book he says that he and Kevin had planned it but Vachon had no idea that they were going to do it, and after the show Vachon was totally thrilled to have had a little part in the main event.

    We forget sometimes how weird and carny this business really is. For a guy as old as Vachon it was probably fucking awesome to even be slightly involved in a big main event on a PPV shown all over the world, especially when you consider that Vachon never wrestled anywhere outside of shitty armories and gymnasiums.  Think about it...besides this match (and the other when Lawler repeated the spot) how many people under 35 EVER saw Vachon wrestle?

    That leg spot extends Vachon's legacy by another two or three decades.

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  28. Taker-Yoko, casket match?

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  29. 2012 Scott reviewing everything 1996-2005 Scott ever wrote = many clicks

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  30. Get out, one of the all-time greatest heels was a tennis player, John McEnroe.  That dude could generate some heat.

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  31. I think he also gave said full negative monty to the 8 on 2 main event of 1996 Uncensored, Hogan & Savage against The Alliance To End Hulkamania.

    Scott might have also given it to the casket match at '94 Royal Rumble at one point, though I'm not totally sure.

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  32. Though I don't disagree with your general sentiment about Vachon getting a visibility boost from the show, I'd have to disagree with your sentiment about him only wrestled in shitty venues. He was a pretty major player in the AWA during a period (70s & early 80s) when they were doing good business and selling out all the biggest arenas in the upper Midwestern cities, including the one where this show took place. I'm sure if PPV had been around during that period, Verne Gagne would have gone with it, and Vahon would have been better known. Because he was certainly a big, distinctive star during that period.

    And I certainly knew who Vachon was because I was a kid growing up in the AWA territory at the time, and I definitely thought he was nuts, so much so that I thought he was one of the few guys around who I could believe having a shot against Andre. Apparently I wasn't far off (about his being fairly nuts;).

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  33. Edge. His description of the event in his book is fucking hilarious, too.

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  34. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/video_reviews/32707/The-SmarK-Retro-Rant-For-WCW-Uncensored-96.htm


    Yep, full negative monty for that main event. I must watch that match.

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  35. Ahh...ok I'm sure you're right. I grew up out in Washington state where there was no territories of any kind really. If it wasn't on USA or the SuperStation it just didn't exist (except some totally random Rocky Mountain on ESPN but it was never on at the same time so you couldn't really follow it).

    I edited it to say "on a PPV shown all over the world, especially when you consider that Vachon never really wrestled on that big a national stage. Think about it...besides this match (and the other when Lawler repeated the spot) how many people born before 1975 (outside of the AWA fans) knew who Vachon even was?"

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  36. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyApril 8, 2012 at 4:33 PM

    No it was Tammy who allegedly asked New Jack to take out her ex. Terri Runnels dated him only to have a nasty break up with New Jack saying all kinds of things about her afterwards. 

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  37. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyApril 8, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    I didn't know about Edge but I also heard he pulled similar ribs on Billy Silverman (ref from WCW) and Brian Kendrick. 

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  38. That was kind of the idea.  Even without including Barrett there's a logjam at the top of the card.  You have Punk, Jericho, Cena, Orton, Sheamus, ADR, Big Show, possibly Bryan, and now potentially Brock and Rock.  Ziggler's going to flounder in midcard feuds for at least the next year.  The tag title thing gives him a dominant position where he and Swagger are booked strongly, then he gets to work with a top guy in Mysterio possibly even sneaking out some singles wins until Cara and Rey pick the belts up.  Otherwise, he just loses to your top babyfaces in an endless circle jerk where no one benefits.

    Plus, it's been established that he and Swagger are "a team" since they've tagged off an on for almost a year now.  Give them color-coordinated tights and a name and you've got something.  Ziggler can bump like a madman for everyone while Swagger does the big(gish) bully routine.

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  39. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyApril 8, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    Completely agree here. Backlash 2000 was the Pay-Per-View that got me completely hooked on wrestling whereas before I was just a casual fan. The Rock versus Triple H match is still one of my favourite matches ever.

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  40. He was also quite well known in Quebec, which was a hotbed for wrestling at the time. If he had wrestled in many territories outside of those two, I'm sure he would have been better known. He was a very distinctive and memorable character in those days. And we would all LOVE to have a guy like him running around now, he would truly be an internet darling.

    Really, outside of Andre & the few guys at the top of the NWA title picture, no one really had much of a national stage in the territory days. It was so very different. You wouldn't know who was doing what even a state (or province) over. But you knew the guys in your area.

    For example, I started watching wrestling in Winnipeg, which was AWA territory, but when I was 10, we moved to Alberta, still in western Canada. But I had never heard of Stampede Wrestling, or the Harts, until I was there. They were never on TV where I lived, nor would I see any AWA again, because they were never shown in Alberta.

    Yet when Hogan showed up in WWF, when they started going national, I knew who he was only because he had been in AWA when I watched them a couple of years earlier. It was just so compartimentilized, which left many fans ignorant of the likes of Vachon, or Flair (before he got to World champ status), or even Bruno. It had its good and bad aspects. 

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  41. I'm so jealous of people that got to experience the territories. There was Portland but it was kind of dead by the time I was old enough to realize I liked wrestling (1986) and I didn't even realize there WAS a territory there until I lost kayfabe in like 1992 and by then it was definitely dead. I'm WAY too far out to get Portland local TV.

    I feel weird about my kids being wrestling fans now, only because they'll never have even remotely that experience. Every wrestler they'll ever know will probably come up through WWE developmental. I try to get them into old stuff but they look at it the way I looked at Backlund. They do love Bobby Heenan though, lol.

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  42.  Like, Like, a Million Times Like

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  43. Fake raping, it's fantastic!

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  44. Make sure that you're well stocked up on the booze.

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  45. I believe one of those New Jack-Mustafa garbage brawls from ECW got the full -***** as well.

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  46. Yes, I do appreciate having experienced the territory days, and I feel bad for long-time fans who didn't get to do so. However, it was intresting to have seen it go from point A to Z (though certainly very bittersweet now).

    And I understand about the sadness regarding your kids' tastes. Though I remember talking to one kid, about 10, a few years ago, and he mentioned that his all-time favourite was Mr. Perfect. So there is hope, and the kid's probably a big Ziggler fan nowadays;)

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  47. Fuck booze, make sure you're stocked up on crack, coke AND meth. And that's just for the Chicago street fight before the main. (The Chicago street fight, I may add, at a show taking place in TUPELO.How WCW didn't go belly up long before 2000 is a mystery for the ages.)

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  48. They act
    ually took from that at the Cell match at Wrestlemania with Triple H's "if you don't end it I will" and suck

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  49. 1996 Scott: Oh here comes that cannonball guy, he's cool.

    2012 Scott: Are you being sarcastic, dude?

    1996 Scott: I don't even know anymore.

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  50. Wait I have been out of wrestling since 05 until recently. It's not backlash anymore? What the hell is it?

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  51. It's not No Way Out anymore? Jesus. I saw the elimination chamber once. It looked stupid like a poor mans hell in the cell. Whats next? a generic big guy from Japan gets his own match? ,(oh wait...)

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  52. I don't care how bad a match is, there's no good excuse to smoke crack or meth.

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  53. Quick question for Scott: You gave Sandman/Sabu from N2R 97 a DUD, but added something to the effect of "only because I don't do negative stars". So how would you score that today? Workrate wise, I'd say it gets the full negatives, but as a big fan of Botchamania, I think that match is hilarious.

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  54. I heard that he fucked Duke Drose up the ass with a plunger handle when he found out Duke was making home made roofs.

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  55. I didn't get to experience territories but I went to college in Philadelphia from fall of '04 to spring of '09 and got to go to a few ROH shows which was pretty cool. In fact, it was an ROH show in 2008 that (as corny as this sounds) I remembered how much I could enjoy wrestling after the Benoit tragedy.

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  56. They change it pretty much every year. All the PPV names now bleed together. Back in the day you would know what PPV was coming based on the month. Now I don't know what the name is until they announce it.

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  57. Golden age simpsons quote will always get a like from me.

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  58. This was one of the last shows before I lost kayfabe (ChinWins , I've never heard that description used before but I think it's perfect) and I hated Shawn Michaels because I was a Bret mark and wanted Diesel to go over.

    I bought the From the Vault Shawn DVD and love this match. It's amazing how fast time moves in it. Love the main event, and as much as I hated Shawn at the time he was starting an amazing streak of great main event matches.

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  59.  And a couple of Vampiro matches from Russo-era WCW. I believe they were the 'falming stuntman' Sting match and the graveyard match against the KISS demon. I can't remember if the latter was a 'special main event match!' or not though.

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  60. I enjoyed the match. As much of a spot fest and assuredly chemically induced Sandman must have been, it was entertaining because they were trying to do something out there. Id give it *1/2 to ** just cause this was the first exposure I had to ECW and have watched the tape several times back in the day, usually stopping after Sabu-Sandman. Not an ECW freak or anything, just fond memories I guess.

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  61. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyApril 9, 2012 at 1:34 AM

    A bit more further online research has revealed to me that he did the same to Brian Christopher too. Also I found out the he apparently hog-tied Billy Silverman naked and carted him around the arena which led to Silverman quitting. 

    Still say what you like about Bradshaw but being KO'ed by Joey Styles, someone who isn't even viewed as a in-ring competitor or tough guy, must be really embarrassing for him. 

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  62.  Yes sir I did. I know I'm not the only one though, a lot of people really loved that match. From what I've seen, the peeps who are in their 30's, and grew up with Flair, didn't care for it all that much, but the younger guys, such as myself really seemed to love it. I'm sure if it wasn't for the awesome ending, I would have gone ****1/2 or something, but that ending was just too great.

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  63. Was Hall having issues in WWF with substances? I always assumed they started when he went to WCW because I've never heard of that before. Huh.

    And I really like Vader/Ramon from this show. Surprised you called it ''REALLY boring'' because I think it's the only thing other than the main event that's aged well.  -insert 'unlike Hall!' joke here-

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  64. Yeah, specifically the match with Goldust at WM12 had to be changed to Piper because Hall was in rehab.  

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  65. That's one of the best parts of the match.  It has a "real" feel to it and added some nice intensity to the match.

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  66. One of the best spots of the main event was when Diesel choked out the ref.  TOTALLY unexpected spot.

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