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Comic Book Talk (April 4)

Haven’t had a comic book thread in a while, so what the heck.

Obviously everyone is all about Avengers v. X-Men at the moment (or AVX as all the kids are calling it) but I’ve never been an X-Men reader and I only started following the main Avengers title recently, so I don’t have much emotional attachment to it.  The #0 and #1 issues do a good job of building up the Phoenix as a world-threatening force so that the stakes are certainly there, but I’m just not feeling it. 

What I DO love is Amazing and Avenging Spider-Man.  I am having such a blast with Dan Slott’s work on Amazing, and I love the “Peter working in a think tank” plot so much better than an outdated job as a photographer.  People say he should be miserable and angsty, but this is FUN and reminds me of the much-maligned Ben Reilly run where the clone was single and relatively happy as Spider-Man, and it was another favorite run of mine.  Plus Avenging #5, from the Hawkeye-defaced credits through Spider-Man annoying Captain America with nerd bonding during a mission (and the action shunted to the off-panel transitions in a hilariously off-hand manner), is probably one of the funniest comics I’ve ever read.  Not even “wacky funny” like Ambush Bug, just organically entertaining because the comic has Spider-Man’s voice down so well.  The two Spider-titles (and the solid Scarlet Spider) are becoming must-buys for me.  The time travel issues were awesome, and kept me going through Spidey In Space and now the big Ends of the Earth event that has also kept me hooked.  I can’t say enough great things about how these comics are delivering exactly what I want. 

Hulk #50 is a really good intro to Red Hulk, as it actually delves into how much control Ross has over the transformation (and how little Betty has over hers) and explains about Ross being less angry because Hulk offers him an awesome anger expression mode, leaving his human form calmer and younger-looking.  Plus the history of Rulk is recapped at the end of issue, catching you up really effectively.  I once again would like to point out that Marvel makes it SO MUCH EASIER for new readers, like myself, to catch up with storylines, and as a result I spend way more more money on Marvel comics now than I ever did before.  HINT HINT, DC.  You don’t need to reboot the line, just make things a bit less dense and labyrinthine.  I just find Red Hulk such a fascinating character, much moreso than the original Hulk.

I also find OMAC fascinating, and I’m quite sad that #8 was the end of the line, both for the title and for the mythos that the title had been building up in between giant fight scenes.  Basically Brother Eye and Cadmus all get wiped out, and Kevin Kho is now trapped as OMAC (but with his own personality) for good.  He’ll be moving to JLI, but that title is getting so dire that I’m probably not sticking with it much longer. 

Superman #7, the much-needed creative team swap to Jurgens and Giffen, was OK, but proved stronger when it was focused on Clark Kent’s work life than the rather tiresome action scenes.  I guess the problem I’m having with the reboot in general is that I no longer know who or what Superman is supposed to be any longer.  All three major books (Superman, Action and Justice League) have had three totally different interpretations of him and it just leaves me confused.  But that’s a common problem with DC these days. 

By the way, quick back issue recommendation, as I picked up the original Hush TPB recently, and LOVED it.  Unfortunate that the character got so watered down in later appearances, because Jim Lee and co. really hit it out of the park with the initial 12 part epic. 

Haven’t got to my favorite one-two punch of the month yet in Animal Man and Swamp Thing, but I don’t foresee either one letting me down any time soon. 

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  1. Don't follow the comics, but Midtown Comics in NYC had a huge event for X-men vs. Avengers. Saw it on my way home, and the line stretched down 40th Street.

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  2. "Hush" is the storyline that got me back into comics after a five-year hiatus. I happened to pick up the first issue of the Loeb/Lee run on a whim at the campus bookstore, and I became hooked. Next came Superman/Batman and GL: Rebirth, and I was once again a diehard.

    Also, I just find DC characters more interesting than their Marvel counterparts. Marvel's mythology, particularly my favorite Marvel characters, The X-Men, just feels impossible to understand at times. I really don't care about the Avengers other than Spidey (outside their movie and Ultimate forms), and I don't care for the new Spider-Man direction, even though I loved Ben Reilly.

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  3. Planning on starting Incorruptible again soon. I read the first volume and was mostly entertained, though it's not as good as Irredeemable.

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  4. Travel Foreman is leaving Animal Man in 2 issues, and being replaced by some far more generic comic book art, and it's really gonna hurt the book, which is a shame since it was going along so awesome for a while. Apparently while Foreman is really good at drawing insanely creepy artwork it's not what he really likes doing. I know it's no one's fault but I'm so sick of getting into creative teams and them breaking up 7 issues later I'm done. It's graphic novels or the highway from now on.

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  5. Hush also got me back into comics, although I didn't like the ending. To me, Jason Todd should have been Hush, instead of the guy they put in there (although Paul Dini did rehabilitate Hush into a cool character with his stint on Detective).

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  6. What bugs me about X-Men vs. Avengers is that it's yet ANOTHER re-hash of the Phoenix. Marvel has seriously driven the concept into the ground.

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  7. I thought the previous issue of Superman - no. 6 - showed a lot of potential, and then we have a new creative team and it's all a wash. Did I misinterpret some scenes in 6, or did they reveal that Lois knows that Clark is Superman? I need to go back and reread it, because I thought that was the most fascinating part of the whole issue. 

    After I got my new iPad last month, I started buying my comics digitally, saving me a trip into Manhattan to pick up my books from Midtown Comics. Since I can't usually get out of Queens (a borough that is devoid of useful public transportation and easily-accessible comic shops), the digital downloads are really a godsend. I download them on my lunch hour and I don't have to worry about it. 

    Anyone else reading digitally? Last night, I also downloaded the first issue of Ed Brubaker's Fatale and the first two issues of Kill Shakespeare (the latter being free - can't beat  that deal). Anyone have other recommendations? 

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  8. I started to enjoy Incorruptible more, but the last few issues have swung it back towards Irredeemable. I am somewhat happy the books are ending, though, as Waid seems to have run out of steam. 

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  9. I rather loved the Tommy Elliott swerve and would have preferred Jason to remain dead, since I thought his death was more relevant and meaningful to Bruce's character than his parent's death at that point. However, I did enjoy Under the Red Hood.

    The only thing I disliked about the series was ending Bruce and Selina's relationship so quickly. It was so cool, a throwback to the '80s even, to see Bruce actually somewhat happy with someone.

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  10. I really wish comics were simpler.  Single titles for character or teams.  If there's a crossover it's once in a blue moon. Stan Lee soapbox.  Adds for cool things like bubble gum, trading cards, and cereal.  I want the 70's and 80's back, dammit.

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  11. Meh, I'm happy with the general quality of comics writing; I do agree crossovers should be far less abundant, and mostly limited to the same line (Batman/Detective/Nightwing, GL/Corps, etc.).

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  12. I must be the only one online who liked the George Perez run of Superman.

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  13. "
    I just find Red Hulk such a fascinating character, much moreso than the original Hulk."

    Wow. I don't think I have ever so diametrically opposed a statement like this before. I've even heard someone say "The Holocaust wasn't so bad..." and even THAT didn't but me as much as this. Are you my mirror-universe twin?

    But no, man, you have an opinion, and I'm sure you've read more Red Hulk than I (no sarcasm) What is it about the character that is fascinating to you? I personally think Green/Banner Hulk to be one of the most layered mainstream characters in comics. So yeah, why?

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  14. I've always thought they should have explored the TaliaBruce relationship more (especially with Damian there) But to be honest I liked what they did with Hush. I felt that the comic got peoples wondering about Todd so much they brought him back as an evil Nightwing type thing.

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  15. I like Spider-Man working at the "Think Tank" as well because it gives him exccuses to why he has new gafgets and it's a job that allows him to be a superhero without risking losing his job.

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  16. I'm just in such a different reading sphere than everyone else. 

    Anyone been reading the rebooted Extreme books? They're awesome. Prophet is just brain meltingly cool sci-fi. Glory is *really* beautiful looking and full of very strong characters. Bloodstrike was a strong debut issue and I'm even curious where Erik Larsen is going to go with Supreme. 

    Speaking of Image...Fatale is awesome. Saga is *really* awesome. I'm really, really looking forward to how Secret and Manhattan Projects unfold. 

    I'm all about Incorruptible, Iredeemable, and Daredevil. Daredevil is extremely good. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and the book to lose its mojo, but it keeps on being the most fun comic I read every month. 

    And when I can find it, I *love* Adventure Time. I love the show and the comic is quite possibly better. 

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  17.  I feel like the "gadgets" are unnecessarily complicating Spider-Man as a character and a concept.

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  18. Freaking co-signed. I loved the legitimacy of all the newspaper stuff. 

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  19. Heh, I'm the opposite, as I've always detested Talia. Team Selina for me!

    But totally agreed on the Jason thing.

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  20. Exactly, that was my favorite part of his run, The Daily Planet stuff was interesting. The latest issue seems like a step backward to Lois-Clark-Jimmy-Perry hijinks being a backdrop to Clark's latest secret identity dilemna. Clark is all of a sudden back on the "Superman beat" when the previous six issues did a nice job establishing that his main journalistic interests was more about the people on the ground than on Superman.

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  21. I remember strolling through the action figure aisles one time, my eyes catching a "White Phoenix." When I was back home I tried to do some Wikipresearch, and I think I got as far as the name "Stepford Cuckoos" before I just gave up.

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  22. FIrst off, I had to go back and fix typos. I shouldn't post when in a hurry.

    Second, Spider-Man has always used special weapons in one way or another. Sometimes a villian comes along that requires special webbing or suits to beat them, At least this gives an explanation on how he's getting the tech.

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  23. I liked Talia because she knew her place. Selina always wanted to prove herself. Two alphas don't work in a relationship, but seeing them try is what makes it a compelling story.

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  24. Scott,

    As your resident trade reviewer I too like what I've read of Slott's Spidey. Let me highly reccomend the Big Time trade as it's not only the start of him being employed at Horizon but is exactly the type of classic Spidey adventure I love featuring all the characters who were top players when I started reading Spidey regulalry: namely-Black Cat, Hobgoblin and Kingpin.

    Slott also wrote the best Brand New Day era trade I've yet red in New Ways to Die which has a nice inversed dynamic with Osborn as the law and Spidey as the criminal thanks to the post Civil War status quo and features some neat fights most notably Spidey vs Bullseye but also the newest versions of Venom and The Green Goblin fighting the originals.

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  25. Since I only read trades the answer to the Extreme is not yet, I saw preview pages on Glory and I was quite intrigued so I will probably pick it up when its out in trade.

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