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Three-Hour RAW Open Thread

Three hours tonight and it looks like they are opening with Brock-Cena. Interesting? Desperate? You're both right!

Enjoy the show and don't be shy about expressing your opinions.

As always come out swinging but try to keep it clean :)



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  1. I'll be swinging...but not sure if I can keep it clean. Especially if there's a Hornswoggle moment in the show.

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  2. I always play dirty. Nobody's noticed. I'm also writing THREE tests here tonight (I'm a math teacher, don'tcha know), so if I get confused and start talking about special right triangles or ways to prove a quadrilateral is a parallelogram, just ignore me. 

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  3. I'm just waiting until they switch "World Champion" with "WWE Universe Champion"...

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  4. Just turned it on, why is Edge out there?

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  5. If you teach maths half as well as Scott Steiner does, the country has a bright future.

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  6. I think Edge is overrated. There I said it. 

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  7. Great promo from Edge. Been so long, forgot how much I missed him.

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  8. Does Jericho's contract stipulate that he only wrestle Punk and Kofi? Can we find anyone else to build him up for Punk?

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  9. I'm sure after hearing Cole refer to Jericho as the new cerebral assassin, HHH will come back and beat him on 6 straight PPVs. You know, for old times sake.

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  10. I'm feeling panicky because Raw is on and I'm still writing the first test (I think it's after 9, but it's only after 8!) 

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  11. Would they pretend whoever has it is unifying it with other titles from other worlds? Fighting a bunch of fictitious champions from Mercury and Venus in a tournament from (where else?) Rio De Janeiro? 

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  12. My thoughts, exactly.

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  13. Has Kofi Kingston been in a real angle/storyline since the Randy Orton feud? He is either in random tag teams, fighting over the US/IC title, or jobbing out on Raw. Sometimes all 3 at once.

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  14. Totally agree - I really don't get why people like his promos, considering all he does is growl the second half of it, and usually loses his breath before finishing his sentences.

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  15. Kofi and Jericho have fantastic chemistry together - I like Kofi a lot, I think he's definitely main-event material, but he takes it to a different level when in there with Jericho.

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  16. Kingston, Ziggler, & Swagger have basically had nothing to do since Royal Rumble or so. 

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  17. Indeed, and he's as solid and consistent a worker as any on the roster. He almost never has a bad match. A switch to Smackdown and a feud with someone like Cody Rhodes would be welcome.

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  18. Say what you want about Russo(and I have) but that would never happen under his watch. 

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  19. It would more of the same. They need to do a reboot of the feud with Orton with someone a little more stable. 

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  20. Oh, and gotta say, I hate the "tell, don't show" method of story-telling. Yes, Cena is a walking billboard that doesn't take things seriously, but it's not like that only started three weeks ago. Why mention that he has somehow "changed" since losing to Rock?

    I can understand saying that he shouldn't be losing two high-profile matches in a row, I can understand positioning him as the lockerroom leader, but trying to tell us that he has somehow changed in the last three weeks, despite not actually presenting anything to support that claim? That's amateur hour, right there.

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  21. I think he needs more then just a brand switch because we've been there before, he would just be doing the same thing on a different show. It's a shame he's taken the Shelton Benjamin spot of "super-athletic guy we don't have a clue what to do with." I actually thought they could have turned him heel at Mania for whatever reason, say he's held back, Johnny gave him opportunity, etc. Right now he's the very definition of running the treadmill to nowhere.

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  22. Told you guys last week, Bowtunga and Big Johnny definitely tag teamed She-Cena last week.

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  23.  Agree 100%. There's nothing he's done since Lesnar arrived that shows he's questioning himself. In fact, coming out and slapping Lesnar is just the opposite. Yet we're supposed to believe that his attitude has changed all of a sudden.

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  24. I really thought that whole "I'll kick your hat" thing was gonna take off.

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  25. Punk needs to come out in a Hawks sweater tonight.

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  26. Aye, three hour garbage. Gotta remember they do this crap every few weeks.

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  27. At least it made sense with Shelton - he could do some ridiculously athletic things, but he really wasn't a very good "wrestler" (he really didn't have many good singles matches), and he had the personality of a plank of wood.

    Kofi is athletic, can have a good match with almost anyone, is charismatic, and is really good on the mic. WHY is he not treated better?

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  28. Pretty lazy to show thee exact same promo as last week, but it is a hell of a good video package. Almost makes you forget how little has actually happened in this feud.

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  29. Alberto De Janeiro?

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  30. Well if randomly slapping Lesnar, getting your mouth busted open, and jobbing to Tensai equals change then  he's a whole new person. 

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  31. Alllllbeeeeert! Alllllbeeeeeert!

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  32. So why is  Edge the special ref for Lesnar/Cena? I find it random as hell. 

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  33. When Punk was champion two years ago on "Smackdown", I definitely thought Kofi would have been the perfect foil - they're both athletic, good on the mic, young guys that represent the future, and there was even a natural plot-point of the straight-edge guy looking down on the guy that loves Jamaican (read: pot-fueled) culture.

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  34. Speaking of Kofi not having anything to do, they should hook him up with Tensai. Let him bump around for him on a PPV or 2. Tensai destroying his friend Truth is a pretty good jumping off point. Plus it gets Tensai away from the squash matches that aren't working out.

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  35. Shave your back!  Shave your back!  Oh wait.  

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  36. He's special ref? Completely missed that. Or my brain may have bypassed the information because it makes so little sense.

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  37. Wait, what? Did I miss something?

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  38. Not related, but did ChinWins and realdeal get blocked?

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  39. Shelton has had a ton of amazing matches. Way more than Kofi. He was also a lot smoother than Kofi.

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  40. Talk about Josh Matthews being in the right place at the right time. 

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  41.  Problem is A-Train doesn't let anyone really bump around.  His style is slow, boring yet painful.  But I suppose Kofi could at least give it a shot.

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  42. Cue me & all the other people who forgot Raw was 3 hours. I miss anything?

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  43. Cue boring flame war between the two in 3..2..

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  44. Kane promo! This oughta be riveting television!

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  45. Have them prove that a square with a circle inscribed in it has twice the area as a square with the same size circle circumscribed around it.

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  46. Someone needs to do a study on who grunts more UGHHHHs in their promos, HHH or Kane.

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  47. You can use Lord Tensai's heat to explain the theory of an empty set to your class.

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  48. Did Orton just throw Paul Bearer out of a plane???

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  49. I'm not sure if this was mentioned elsewhere on the blog, but FWIW the WWE apparently released Andy Leavine. Oh well.

    Haha Randy Orton just pushed Paul Bearer into a freezer. Goofy.

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  50. Edge, Jericho/Kofi round 89, liquor basket, fat American fake Japanese guy followed by Kane grinding everything to a halt.

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  51. How many times have they killed off Paul Bearer? Seriously, I think this is three times now.

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  52. I'm trying to think of a "Free Hat" joke.

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  53. Silly, Randy! You can't kill Paul Bearer!

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  54. Well, can't keep Kane looking strong before the match now, can we? 

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  55. To each their own, but I thought he bombed with every (singles) title he was given; the audience generally didn't care when he was in a singles match.

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  56. I'm embracing my remote.

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  57. So is Bearer gonna die for the 3904395th time? 

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  58. I was going to say something about how heat could actually reach absolute zero when it comes to him, but then I remembered that's science.

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  59. If they don't follow the gift basket up with Matthews trying to do interviews but getting progressively drunker throughout the night, this show is an EPIC FAIL. 

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  60. The crowd definitely did care after he beat HHH on Raw in one of the greatest matches nobody ever remembers. Not really his fault they fumbled following up on it.

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  61. Hehe... circumscribed...

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  62. Kane/Orton is completely running on fumes. What a stupid segment that was. Now Orton looks like a moron and Kane looks like a weakling in addition to both of them looking like shit in the ring.

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  63. He's lost two matches! For super-Cena, that's a drought equivalent to Lions going 0-16. 

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  64. He said his contract is up in 2 days so I assume this is inaccurate?  Then again, people with expiring contracts seem to do well in Chicago.

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  65. Shelton was pretty over with the first IC title reign. The problem was they kept giving him secondary titles when it was obvious they wanted more from him. After a while it becomes an albatross, doing more harm then good. Instead of the title helping him, it's "sigh, another US Title reign? Does he really need this? Why isn't he higher up the card by now?" It's wierd, Kofi is in exactly the same spot. A US title fued with Ziggler or IC fued with Cody will do nothing for him at this stage.

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  66. That Kane /Orton segment was lame as could be. Both guys came off like dipshits

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  67. Killing Paul Bearer has the same success rate of Powerbombing Kidman.

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  68. Oh, I won't dispute that he was over during his mini-feud with Trips.

    The next six years or so he was employed, though? Ehh, not so much.

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  69. Alex Riley: Lance Cade 2.0

    I doubt if it was intentional but Riley outing Punk like that shows a shocking amount of continuity.

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  70. It amazes me how few wrestlers actually watch Raw. Like Jericho's wandering around the back, Riley's standing there in his suit, and CM Punk is jabbering on the phone. 

    Also wasn't Albert Del Rio drafted to Smackdown? Meaningless. 

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  71. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyApril 23, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    Am I sad for wishing that inside the freezer with Paul Bearer is THE YETAI forcefully giving him the dreaded reverse bear hug? 

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  72. thank god there's a Yankees/Rangers game on during the 3 hr raw snoozefest.

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  73. Nothing has made less sense to me than Big Show and Khali becoming a semi-regular tag team. 

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  74. "Khali is fingering Cody Rhodes..."

    No, I will not grow up.

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  75. They have a goofy charm and appeal that I can't explain; it's my guilty pleasure at the moment.

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  76. Someone really needs to kick your hat.

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  77. Well, that settles it then.

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  78. How do you figure? 

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  79. Great sell job there, Big Slow.   He's almost as useless as Khali.

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  80. This match has gone on 10 minutes way too long. 

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  81. Cody Rhodes figuring four on the Big Show... might just be the most ridiculously fake thing I've seen this week. Is anyone buying that hold for a minute? 

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  82. Back when Riley was with Miz, he got popped for a DUI. The next Raw Punk buried him all night on commentary. 

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  83. Was Head Cheese also a guilty pleasure?

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  84. They could have done something there, have Alberto and Cody obliticree Show's knee, lose by DQ, Cody now has a legit shot on Sunday. Match was fun until Show no-sold the knee during his comeback. THAT could've helped as well.

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  85. I don't why I'm just noticing now but the only guys who have a storyline going right now are Punk, Jericho, Cena, Brock, Orton, Kane, Bryan, Sheamus, and Big Johnny. I guess that's why they need 45 writers. 

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  86. Text from a certain K. Nash?

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  87. A WWE superstar is prohibited from drinking within 12 hours of a WWE event? Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? Did Stone Cold Steve Austin get erased from WWE history last night? 

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  88. "Eve, you're a skank!"

    I laughed.

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  89. Josh must have had some liquid courage.

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  90. Lesnar squashing Matthews like he's Coleslaw circa '97= AWESOME.

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  91. "I'm not even supposed to be here today!"

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  92. These three hour RAW shows are just not a good idea. They do not have enough going on to properly fill the time. This show is dragging and kinda putting me to sleep.

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  93.  I hate evil heel GM gimmicks. Johnny's gonna screw over Punk for no good reason, blah blah blah. Seriously they can't come up with anything else? Do people actually enjoy seeing this lowest common denominator shit? It's been done and done over.

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  94. It's because Eve is such a sharp legal mind. 

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  95. I could watch the Bellas stretch like that all day.

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  96. Sweet Jesus, twins stretching each other out would be a bit much for 1998 let alone PG WWE. 

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  97. Is Kharma still on the roster?

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  98. Wow, this crowd is just dead.

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  99. Seeing random unknown divas pound the mat out of sync to no reaction is equally hysterical and sad.

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  100. Otunga is about to become Wally Pipp?

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  101.  Beth Phoenix just BLEW out her ankle big time

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  102. Did they just call an audible there???

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  103. Wait, the diva who contract is about to expire just won the Divas title?!

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  104. I don't know what's worse Nikki Bella being the new Divas champion or Beth being hurt?

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  105. Not sure if Beth lost because of the ankle or the toe....the Bella Camel Toe that is!

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  106. Did the Bellas sign new contracts?

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  107. Bellas have a couple of weeks or so left on their contracts, I'd expect Kharma to show up on one of the next two Raws and murder them both.

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  108. I'm thinking that it was a work. Probably promised the Bellas a run with the Divas title to re-sign them. 

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  109. So I'm guessing Nikki will drop the title to Eve or Natalya tomorrow night if that was a legitimate audible they called there.

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  110.  Were all those "Bellas are leaving" rumors just to throw you off the scent so it was a surprise when whichever one just won the title? Because they needn't have bothered: no one gives a fuck.

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  111. This alcohol storyline with Jericho and Punk is so unnecessary.

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  112. Would be shocked if Teddy doesn't find a way to turn this into a tag match. 

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  113. Jericho is really starting to resemble Peter Sarsgaard.

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  114. Evil Owner is the WWF's endless parade of nWo reformations. Promotions find one thing that works and then default to it every time they're off-balance.

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  115. Punk is clearly kayfabe faking....

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  116. Which is to say WWF : Evil Owner :: WCW : nWo

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  117. I anxiously anticipate the return of GTV here to show Jericho spiking Punk's drink, or something.

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  118. CM Drunk is awesome.

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  119. I have no idea why saying the alphabet backwards is part of the test. I can't do it sober, let alone hammered. 

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  120. Recite the alphabet backwards? I can't even do that sober.

    CM Drunk is hilarious!

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  121. From the observer: "Nikki Bella's win was scheduled to happen for several weeks.  The ankle injury to Beth Phoenix was storyline.  It was a way to get the title off Phoenix so Kharma can get the title without ever beating Phoenix.  Or at least that was the plan when Nikki Bella was planned to get the title." 

    Cause they're gonna book Kharma v. Phoeonix like is Rousey v. Tate, or something. 

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  122. Road Warrior Hawk thinks this is in bad taste.

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  123. Unless he was speaking about the Words With Friends universe. 

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  124. I used to practice saying the alphabet backward sober so I was able to do it drunk. I can still do that shit, drunk or sober.

    I'd smark out if they hired Becky Bayless to come out and say Punk did blow off her tits.

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  125. Two of the best promo guys in the business, who can work a 5-star match, and we're getting a field sobriety test? Really?

    At least Punk is entertaining as hell during it.

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  126. Well, they not only killed the Orton/Kane feud but also the Punk/Jericho feud.

    I feel bad for the crowd that they paid to see this crap.

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  127. Do they not have Breathalyzers in Detroit? Why would the alphabet thing and walking the line be the only tests they use?

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  128. Punk still messed up S and T. Strip him of the title!

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  129. He got S & T backward, so maybe we get a Dusty finish at the PPV and he gets stripped of the belt.

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  130. Surprised Hogan didnt talk Dixie Carter into surrendering ownership to Brock to get him to come to TNA to return the job.

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  131. When Jericho spikes drinks, it's not with alcohol. 

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  132. Did Hogan ever bump like that for anyone else, before or after? He must have really wanted to cooperate to let Brock throw him around like that. I had forgotten how decisive that was: Brock submitting Hogan to the bearhug might be the most emphatic loss Hogan ever had.

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  133. Man, Punk was so dedicated to that bit he was willing to risk Teddy stripping him of the title if he wasn't granted his second chance. Respect.

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  134. Stick the winner, Edge.

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  135. I like how the Brock videos are showing him destroying the current TNA roster. Total coincidence, I'm sure.

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  136.  Then it turned out to be true!  So meta.

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  137. I'd love Shane Douglas to claim that due to the WWE's alcohol policy, he's still the rightful Intercontinental Champion.

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  138.  Even though Hogan was obviously past his prime, it still was a big deal the way they had Brock man handle him. I honestly cant see anybody from the Attitude or PG Eras that could elevate a guy the same way.

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  139. I'm surprised they didn't stage having Zack Ryder killed via vehicular homicide.

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  140. The funny thing about the WWE calling out their Twitter trends is when they're running a main event angle with CM Punk and all the trends are about RuPaul's Drag Race.

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  141. You're killing it tonight with the comments.

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  142. Daniel Bryan about to show Shawn Michaels how it's done. YES! YES! YES!

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  143. Last I knew Bryan & Sheamus were friends and former travel buddies but I have to wonder if the way he's been dead in the water due to this "YES!" thing has made him fucking hate Bryan. And the word yes.

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  144. Worst idea ever: dressing Daniel Bryan like a referee. He doesn't look like he's any bigger than a ref to begin with! 

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  145. Is there anything at Extreme Rules that isn't a rehash of Mania somehow, besides Cena/Brock? I would actually be willing to put down money for this show if there was a little more variety. I can see other people feeling the same way, who would want to buy the same PPV two months in a row? If this does a shitty buyrate I hope they don't blame it on Lesnar, then get all freaked out and hot-shot whatever long-term plans (if any) they have for Brock.

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  146. Typical overreaction from a ginger. Bryan called it right down the middle.

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  147.  Pretty sure Miz will be getting the blame if it gets a poor buyrate.

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  148. Bryan is so entertaining. He is killing it in this role.

    Sweet brogue kick on Henry by Sheamus.

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  149. How's your fuckin making D-Bry look strong? That's more like it. Although Sheamus should've stayed down longer.

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  150. I kinda feel like a city like Detroit can't spare its Breathalyzers for a WWE angle. Also wouldn't the cops have smelled it on his breath? 

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  151. If Ziggler is pinned by Hornswoggle, I'll lose my mind.

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  152. Here comes your Hornswoggle. 

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  153. YES! It's about time a heel referee just counted three immediately instead of counting a quick two and letting the face kick out.

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  154. "This match is going to be like a Taco made out of Doritos....GREAT!"

    WTF has happened to pro wrestling. I want 1996 Stone Cold Steve Austin to come back and tell us how much this crap sucks.

    Back to hockey.

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  155. Brock absolutely destroyed Hogan. God I loved that match at the time.

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  156.  Pretty much par for the course for the post-Mania PPV.

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  157. Beats actually watching the show.

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  158. I was thinking the same thing, but surprisingly they skipped over KOTR against Van Dam

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  159.  To be fair, 96 Stone Cole would be waiting until after the Karate Fighters tournament to come out, so not much has really changed.

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  160. Hell, even Cean's match is a rehash:  Cena v. invading outsider who the smart crowd is going to like better than him. 

    And yeah, if the buyrate sucks, blame the MIz. 

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  161. Damnit! This ruins my joke about Ryder not even being able to get on a 3 hour Raw. 

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  162. Jesus fuck, they bumped Miz to the pre show on fucking YOUTUBE? Talk about being buried. I wonder if Miz is looking to reclaim his MTV Challenge crown about now, because I think the dream is dead in WWE.

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  163. Good thing I bought this new HD TV. The contract between Sheamus and Mark Henry's skin tones would really wresk my old TV set.

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  164. Daniel Bryan is the beloved dickhead.

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  165. SO if the show is on Youtube, that means I can't watch it on my 42" TV, right? Stupid WWE... 

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  166. I can't believe i'm saying this but I'd hope WWE puts the Tag Team Championships on Ryder and Santino somehow. 

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  167. If Ziggler sells any of Hornswoggles moves with one of those 360 sell jobs of his I'll lose my mind.

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  168. Toilet Paper is more valuable than the tag titles

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  169. Keep jobbing out the tag champs to makeshift teams every week. That will get them over.

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  170.  Newer TVs are web-enabled, plus there are all sorts of cables you can run between the two to use your TV as a monitor.

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  171. Don't think the Colons have won a single match since winning the titles. 

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  172. Tag team wrestling in 2012: The WWE tag champs win about as often as the Mulkey Brothers.

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  173. Statler and Waldorf say: Dohohohoho!

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  174. God the tag division is such a cruel joke, but what else is new. In all the time I've been watching wrestling in my life (since 1990), there hasn't been a tag team division for almost as long as there was a tag division.

    It's a shame they can't find anything for Primo and Epico to do, because they're actually pretty talented.

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  175. Obviously WWE doesn't care about a tag team division because it doesn't draw but it can make a show a lot more entertaining. 

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  176.  Whoever booked that was a genius. Thats how you make a guy. Have him destroy a legend with credibility. Not everybody loves Hogan's politics  but by him doing less jobs, it kept him credible later on in his career to put guys like Angle, Y2J and especially Brock over. Cant think of anyone else  that could do this. Maybe the Taker. Maybe.

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  177.  It's the only dream match the divas division has...

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  178. They killed Paul Bearer! YOU BASTARDS!

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  179. It was a Total Nonstop Accident!

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  180. Nothing like a little first degree murder on your wrestling program. Whatever happened to just having matches? God, I miss the 80's and the Midnight Express and good tag matches... ;_;
     

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  181. Did Bret hate Austin for getting over even while playing the heel?

    Did Orton hate Batista for getting that win against Trips?

    Does Richards hate Steen for getting cheered over him?

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  182. Isn't that the entire point of the Backlash PPV?

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  183.  It didn't dirt-road his push the way Sheamus's has been, probably, and probably.

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