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Seems like a pretty fair list if we're going by WCW era rather than NWA. 

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Stumbled upon this list on WWE.com - thoughts on it?  I think given
reputation of the WWE revisionist history they did a pretty good job
for guys based only on their WCW time... Sid and Malenko higher than
Eddie... that's a bit odd... and obviously you know who isn't on this
list - i would probably put him around 13-15ish...

Top 50 WCW Superstars as told by WWE:

50. Jeff Jarrett
49. Juventud Guerrera
48. Dennis Rodman
47. Meng
46. Larry Zbyszko
45. Kanyon
44. Bobby Eaton
43. Saturn
42. Dustin Rhodes
41. Bret Hart
40. Kevin Sullivan
39. Curt Hennig
38. Michael Hayes
37. Cactus Jack
36. Ultimo Dragon
35. Lord Steven Regal
34. Konnan
33. Terry Funk
32. Lance Storm
31. Great Muta
30. Raven
29. Kidman
28. Buff Bagwell
27. Chris Jericho
26. Rick Rude
25. Eric Bischoff
24. Ricky Steamboat
23. Barry Windham
22. Rey Mysterio
21. Rick Steiner
20. Brian Pillman
19. The Giant
18. Eddie Guerrero
17. Arn Anderson
16. Ron Simmons
15. Stunning Steve Austin
14. Sid
13. Dean Malenko
12. Scott Hall
11. Big Van Vader
10. Scott Steiner
9. Randy Savage
8. Booker T
7. Lex Luger
6. Diamond Dallas Page
5. Kevin Nash
4. Goldberg
3. Hollywood Hogan
2. Ric Flair
1. Sting

Comments

  1. They left out La Parka for Dennis Rodman?

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  2. Dennis Rodman two spots ahead of Jeff Jarrett. Heh,

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  3. Man Vince really does get off on burying Jarrett doesn't he?

    I'm not a huge fan of the guy but come on, he's behind Meng and Dennis Rodman? lol

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  4. Well Dennis Rodman drew more money for WCW than Jarrett ever did.

    Sorry if that sounds mean but it's the truth.

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  5. Malenko is pretty high. I'm a fan of his, and he did move through the lower titles frequently. But higher than Arn? I dunno.

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  6. He was pretty terrible in 96 and 97 and then he was on top for the sinking of the ship. I'd say 40-50 is fair.

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  7. Don't even try to talk shit about THEMONSTERMENG. I will have none of it.

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  8. I think Steve Austin deserves to be in the 40 - 50 area. His WCW run was not too shabby at all.  The dangerous alliance was bad ass!

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  9. You forget, he was also PWI Wrestler of the Year in 1998.

    Yeah, I got nothing.

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  10. This...is an odd list.  Austin ahead of Arn, Rey, and The Giant?   Really?  And why does even Dennis Rodman make the list?  If you needed an athlete, as shitty as it sounds, there's always Mongo.

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  11.  I thought that at first too... then i remembered this is WCW only NOT NWA and it makes sense... Arn wasn't wrestling for a good portion of the WCW era and when he did it was more of a utility guy in the sunset part of his career...

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  12. what I mean is 15 is way too high IMHO.

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  13. If they're going to include Rodman for celebrity power, why not include David Arquette? I mean he IS a former WCW champion...

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  14. Needs more Wrath.

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  15. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    1997. get it right

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  16. THE RENEGADE!

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  17.  Rodman was in the main event of the 2nd highest WCW PPV buyrate of all time (1.5) and it def got mainstream people paying attention - hell I remember Sportscenter covering the match... Jarrett on the other hand... take a look at his main event buyrates... Superbrawl 2000 (0.10), Spring Stampede 2000 (0.27), Slamboree 2000 (0.14), GAB 2000 (0.20), BATB 2000 (0.26). New Blood Rising (0.16), Sin 2001 (0.17) - they don't even add up in total to Rodman's!

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  18. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Glaring omissions (unless my eyes deceive me) The Butcher... The Man with no Name... The Zodiac... The Booty Man and the Disciple. All 5 of those guys deserve to be on this list. They changed the mid card in the mid tolate 90s and dare i say were the catalyst for the attitude era.

    PS- THe Yet-AH

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  19. Ha, "celebrity power".

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  20. Scott, find a way to torrent Punk/Bryan from OTL. We need to know if that's a full monty *****!

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  21. Vince is a lot of things, but Jesus isn't one of them

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  22. Yeah, I would have to switch Steve Austin and Rick Rude. THEN the list is complete and accurate.

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  23. Needs more Big T, Air Romeo, Air Styles, and Jason Jett.

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  24. And only 6 of these guys are dead. That's kinda of shocking consider how damaging WCW was to lives of so many people.

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  25. David Arquette is not high enough on the totem pole of celebrity.

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  26. He never held the World Title, or he'd be higher up.

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  27. No Ultimate Warrior? This list is bullshit.

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  28. I can't believe Piper isn't on there.

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  29. Pretty sure the list is made up of more than just work rate. And Flair was pretty much irrelevant from 1996 until it closed. I wouldn't put him above Sting, Hogan, or Goldberg.

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  30. I noticed that too and figured it had to be a huge dig at him.

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  31. Robocop got jobbed.

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  32. I don't know, he had some pretty big moments afterwards. Like his return in 1998. Then his match at Superbrawl against Hogan in 1999, which popped a buyrate that almost beat WM. He also raised the ratings when he was champ, for that week, or however long it was. 

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  33. Few men can say they headlined Starrcade. But Brother Bruti is one of'em!

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  34. Because Rodman drew a shitload of money. 

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  35. The fact that Sting stuck with WCW all the way through cements his position as number one. He made his name there and was never tempted by Vince's money. He's the Undertaker of WCW = the best WCW star ever.

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  36. Yeah, not including La Parka is an insult. I don't recall TWO different wrestlers dressing up like Rodman in order to pull a fake-out. 

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  37. #1 in PWI 500 in 1997, not wrestler of the year.  Get it right. 

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  38. Yeah, in that respect it makes sense. Good point. 

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  39. also I am a bit surprised at Buff Bagwell being as high as he is.

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  40. I'm shocked that Terra Ryzing or Jean-Paul Levesque didn't make the list.

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  41. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyMay 21, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    I think Malenko deserves a lot of credit for how good the cruiserweight division was. I always felt he was the glue that held it together originally as Jericho only really shone after his heel turn, Eddie was busy in the midcard and the luchadores could be a bit spotty and sloppy at times. His matches with Rey Mysterio really proved how the lucha style could appeal to western audiences if done right. 

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  42. Jarrett is the only persona-non-grata for WWE right now I think, besides maybe Daniel Puder or some other nobody. And Vince is pretty forgiving, I imagine if he felt like he had any reason to take Jarrett back he would try.

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  43.  He's one of Vince's right hands. Arn has all the respect of the workers and is definitely a vital part of the backstage, but apparently Malenko is more valuable to Vince. Or this was made by Joey Style's team and he likes Malenko more than Arn.

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  44.  Kid Romeo, Air Parris, and AJ Styles you mean, right? Or were you just calling everybody "air" that month?

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  45. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyMay 21, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Because he's Buff, he's the stuff and the girls just can't get enough... BUFF DADDY! 

    Seriously between that theme and the American Males theme he has had two of the worst entrance music in wrestling history! I used to think he looked and came across as a juiced up George Michael when I was younger. 

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  46. I know people rag on WCW guys for not really giving a shit most of the time, but it probably helped prolong a lot of guys lives. Getting paid great money regardless of how well you perform, or if you even show up, being able to do pretty much what want you, not having to go all out in the ring, most weeks your work includes putting on a t-shirt and standing in the ring, not a lot of house shows or travel...as a wrestler, in a cut throat business, who can blame them? Shit deal for the young guys, and the pressure to make a name for themselves in a company that pretty much would never allow it to happen probably didn't help Eddie or Benoit, but WCW seems like a better place to be than WWF, depending on who you are.

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  47. I get why he's not on there....but no Benoit

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  48. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    *Seppeku*

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  49. I remember being taken aback as a fan that Malenko was #1 that year.

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  50. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    Outside of the initial run from Feb-Jun of 98, I will respectfully disagree. One bright spot though is the Jericholic Ninja.

    He fucking ruled.

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  51. True, but in his mind he's probably better.  He did pin Jesus's father at Backlash many years ago.

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  52.  Yes, where is the YE-TAY!

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  53.  Seeing that WWE made this list i'm kind of surprised that they pretty much got all the major WCW stars in there. 

    The only guy I'd add to that list is Roddy Piper.  He had a decent run and pulled a strong buyrate vs Hogan.

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  54. I don't really take these lists seriously, as it tends to be a mixture of kayfabe accomplishments, in ring talent and personal grudges. But two things that stand out.

    Jarrett at 50 is clearly a slap in the face to him, more so than being left off all together. They're just putting him on there to remind you he exists, and he's the worst of the top 50. Not that I think he did much for WCW, but I'm sure there's others a head of him that shouldn't be.

    Totally agree with Sting over Flair. Sting was WCW's guy, plain and simple. When the nWo angle started, who was the guy they were positioning to save WCW down the road because he was the face of WCW? Not Ric Flair. If it's just the "WCW" years we're counting, did Flair really do much of note? 1993/1994 were pretty good for him until Hogan got there, but aside from the odd good match or storyline here and there he wasn't anything special from about late 1994 until it closed.

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  55. Yeah, if you can't say anything else for WCW, at the end of the day the money was good and the travel was not insane. 

    You can sort of see why so many older talents migrated there, including guys like Bobby Heenan and Gene Okerlund.  They could just keep on doing their thing but on the clock and still have time to spend with their families and such.  Maybe not the most professionally satisfying period, especially for Bobby it seems, but cha-ching.

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  56. I always thought that Piper as the guy exposing Bischoff as working with the NWO was great, but yeah, Piper-Hogan was pretty bad and more than I wanted to see of him at that point.

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  57. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    hence "pretty much"

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  58. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyMay 21, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    I do get the impression that the WWE would love to take Sting on board for a few dream matches. I was shocked that they put him in the Alumni section on wwe.com considering he's a big role in TNA. However I think Sting might be wary of working in WWE due to the difference in the way the matches are put together in the back, which comes across strongly in Jericho's second book. 

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  59. Hmmm yeah, hard to say.

    I wouldn't say Flair was irrelevant though -- he did have quite a few false starts, but nevertheless he was involved in some of WCW's more emotionally credible angles post 1996 -- i.e. The Horsemen/NWO stuff in 1996 and 1997, the Flair/Bischoff feud in 1998.

    I would be comfortable with any ordering of those four though I think.

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  60. Needs more Glacier, Berlyn and "Fat Chick Thrilla" Mike Awesome.

    Ok, so I'm just thinking of shitty WCW gimmicks.

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  61. I actually really enjoyed Piper's WCW time, also minus the Hogan feud, although the lead-up to their first match was really well done.  He had a fun feud with Flair and he was always entertaining (to me) on the microphone, so I welcomed it personally.  I wished they'd made him a commentator though.

    Aside from the Flair match at BATB 97 which was pretty good, I don't think he's really had a *good* wrestling match since he lost to Bret Hart at WrestleMania 8.

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  62. Then his match at Superbrawl against Hogan in 1999, which popped a buyrate that almost beat WM.

    You mean WM 14 or 15?  What?  Not even close.  Where di you get your numberes.

    PS  Clut is right and I followed Flair pretty much my whole life.

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  63. He was way past his prime but was still involved in a lot of main events and top angles. And he still could cut a good promo. 

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  64. His match with Goldust at WM12 is one of my guilty pleasures.

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  65. I think the Parris/Styles tandem actually had "Air" in front of both names.

    But yeah, I did mean Kid Romeo.

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  66. El Dandy should've been there over Dennis FUCKING Rodman.  Shit, technically even David Arquette has beef for being excluded over Rodman!

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  67. Surprised Vince didn't demand that Oklahoma make the list just for another chance to fuck with JR.

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  68. Not bad, assuming this is just WCW era and not NWA. Hard to argue with the top 5. But IMO:

    Nash, Sid, Windham, and (especially) Steve Austin are rated too high.

    Scott Hall, Raven, Bischoff, and The Giant are rated too low. Kidman should not be above Raven. I might move Scott Steiner up a spot or two.

    Jeff Jarrett at #50 made me laugh. You have to know that was intentional...

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  69. Yeah I was wondering the same thing.  Maybe just mixing up 13 and 14?

    That reminds me though -- after looking through a ton of old articles and news reports, I have a pretty strong hunch that WrestleMania 14 buyrate is a totally worked number. 

    It was never officially verified outside of the WWF and their 'final' number came out extremely high over the independently reported preliminary numbers, which by having looked at preliminary numbers for almost every WWF and WCW PPV has no precedent before or after that point -- they almost always go down, but the ones that go up never do by more than a few tenths of a point.

    My personal hunch is that Vince just didn't want a number less than Starrcade 1997 to go down in the books -- but it looks much closer to about a 1.7 or 1.8 buyrate than the 2.2 - 2.3 they reported (varies depending on when you ask).  This sort of makes sense anyways, because business was way up in the WWF by WrestleMania in 1999 (which was originally announced at a 2.8 buyrate by the WWF, before it was verified at a 2.32) that it would be odd for the show to do a nearly identical buyrate.  The 'Tyson Factor' is often used to justify the difference, but Tyson's next PPV fight did the worst numbers of any of his fights to that point and he didn't really pop another big one till the Lewis fight, who was already a PPV draw in his own right.  No way to prove it of course without looking at the books, but non-verified figures in the wrestling  (or boxing) world almost always equate to BS.

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  70. Where's Beniot? I stopped watching wrestling from 05-until this year so I guess I'm missing something. Was he blackballed for some reason? I tell ya the guy with the man with the suplexes and diving head butts. A tad overrated as a worker but still pretty damm good.

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  71. Among others who should've been placed over Rodman: Stevie Ray, Mike Awesome, Shane Douglas, Elix Skipper, Hugh Morrous, Shawn O'Haire, Mark Jindrak, Super Calo, La Parka, Norman Smiley, Steve McMichael and even Vincent and David Flair. 

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  72. Who's better than Kanyon?

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  73. Putting Jarret at 50: worse than ignoring him all together.  That's a nice little screw you.

    Other than no La Parka, I'm fine with this list.

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  74. The list isn't great but Kidman is rightfully ranked higher than Raven (as awesome as he was in his WCW days when booked well) because he was a top attraction amongst the cruiserweights and had multiple title reigns unlike Raven. 

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  75. If you're joking, then smh. If you're serious, then just Google Chris Benoit, you'll find out why he's blackballed

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  76. American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males
    Sung in the melody of American Males

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  77.  Meng is definitely far superior than J E Double F J A Doulbe R E Double T!

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  78.  Has your viewpoint changed?

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  79. Here's both a shitty WCW gimmick and a shitty wrestler: The Maestro! Then there's Prince Iaukea or Prince TAKANAKI as Jericho used to purposely call him!

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  80.  La Parka should be #1 followed by Norman Smiley at #2.

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  81.  Nancy didn't have his chicken wings and tap water ready.

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  82. Prince Takanaki!  God, Jericho was the shit in WCW.

    Maestro was awful.  But how 'bout when Russo thought making Prince Iaukea as TAFKA Prince Iaukea...sigh, I will say this, Russo will try just about anything as a gimmick no matter how shitty it is.

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  83. To quote the legendary Bret The Hitman Hart, "WHO ARE YOU TO DOUBT EL DANDY???!!!"

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  84. Pills and a bottle of wine.

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  85. No Doug Dillinger?

    No Hawk Hana, Maya Inca Boy, Han Zo Mon or THQ/AKI Man?

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  86. That may be the funniest interview given with a straight face ever in wrestling, maybe other than "Jumpin' Jeff Farmer" and his famous interview.

    "El Dandy is a jam up guy... a serious professional"

    and of course

    "This is a real injury Dean Malenko... this is a groin pull the likes of which you've never seen!"

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  87. How dare the WWE not include the greatest tag team of all time:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oKkgKn_W6Y

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  88.  No joke!  As Bret would say, he's a high flyer of the highest magnitude.

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  89. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    You can NOT forgot about that stud 200 Wins!

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  90. Ah I see. Well, a man's gotta eat.

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  91. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    What about Hypnosis... The highest of the high flyers!

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  92. And why in the blue hell is Nash #5? Oh wait, his buddy is next in line to run WWE. 

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  93. I am assuming that Bret gave the Malenko line too as I seem to recall him nursing a groin injury...although I could totally see Jericho saying it as well.

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  94. It would have to be like his first day on the Internet since 2005 for him NOT to be joking...

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  95. Is this going to be some kind of 3disc DVD with matches and a documentary Nd stuff? Cause I will be all over it like Daniel Bryan at a vegan buffet if that's the case!

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  96.  Well, and he's a road agent now, so he's got that going for him.

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  97. Yeah they are all Bret from the same interview.

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  98.  I believe they are "crossface chicken wings'

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  99. Did he forget to wear a suit too??? For shame!!!

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  100. It beats nowadays where the head writer probably couldn't pick someone like Tyler Reks out of a lineup, let alone give him a gimmick.

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  101. Actually, maybe it should be Karl Malone instead of Dennis Rodman -- the first Dennis Rodman BATB PPV did pretty good, but not as good as the 1998 installment. 

    All kidding aside, I'm pretty sure both guys helped, given all the press, WCW buyrates at an all time high, and coming off of the highest rated NBA finals ever.

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  102. Still nothing can ever top Triple H's response to JR asking him if he was bilingual..."I may be bi a lot of things but lingual isn't one of them...Oh wait..."

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  103. Sting/Luger vs. Steiners, Sting vs. Vader, vs. Rude, vs. Flair, vs. DDP, vs. Cactus Jack, vs. Muta ... ALL classics.

    And the dude pulled pretty good matches out of The Giant, Luger, Hogan (Nitro 95, not Starrcade 97), Avalanche and Sid.

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  104.  LOL.  I missed that one, do you have a clip?

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  105. I know arguing about these lists is fruitless...but the Great Muta at only 31?  He had several good runs with the company.

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  106. Brickowski was my fav from that game... his submission hold was sick!

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  107. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    He had ONE good run and coasted the rest of the time. Come on, "Unmotivated Muta" is the shits.

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  108. Yeah, along with Shawn I don't think there has been anybody as good consistently at working with big guys as Sting.

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  109. The_One_Millionth_VisitorMay 21, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    Nice.

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  110. Don't forget he also called Malenko a "little twerp" at some point during that awesome interview.

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  111. Bret did a better job of putting over Psychosis and El Dandy in that one interview than WCW ever did for them...and it was meant as an insult to them!  The way he did, though, was how it should be done.  Stone Cold's insults of Lance Storm was a burial job as was

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  112. Yeah, Jericho was awesome in WCW and I always enjoyed him more there than at anytime in WWE as far as mic work and angles go.  

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  113. I wish I knew the story behind that interview (not in terms of angle but more the production reasons). Bret never really did comedy promos.

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  114. I hate to thread-jack but there's a crazy pic of John Cena on the Observer homepage. I know he's supposed to be "running on adrenaline" or "pumped-up" at that moment but you can't tell me that guy's not on 'roids. He's got Ultimate Warrior level vein-age going there!

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  115. I would imagine you can find it on you tube

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  116. How about when Malenko was disguised as one of the luchadores (forget the exact name of the guy he was supposed to be) and then took off the mask to beat the living crap out of a cowardly Jericho to finish what was an awesome feud.  Any ways, once he took off that mask, the crowd ERUPTED in what was one of the biggest pops

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  117. Bret's weirdo heel character in WCW definitely had its moments.

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  118. Dude was a midcarder for 95% of his WCW run. Is it really that big of a deal?

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  119. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyMay 21, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    At 0.13

    http://youtu.be/4DHWWpLfAXM

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  120. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyMay 21, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    Rodman did win Hogan's Celebrity Wrestling too which is an extremely impressive accolade!!! 

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  121. He was a bigger part of the first incarnation of the Russo Nitro's and was gone to WWF by the time Sullivan was put back in charge, not that long a period.

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  122. No Bunkhouse Buck?!?!?! This list is bunk!

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  123. Not a big deal. Just a microcosm of what I consider a ridiculous amount of bias.

    When you're vindictive to the point of even putting Dennis Rodman, (the biggest embarrassment of a "celebrity" in wrestling history) on this list, you know you're working with trash.

    This is a lifelong Bulls fan telling you what an embarrassment he was.

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  124. What bias? Is there another wrestler with a murder-suicide on his resume on that list? And Rodman isn't even in the top 5 of wrestling celebrities. 

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  125. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyMay 21, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    No love for Disco Inferno then, the innovator of the marcarena piledriver and the YMCA elbow!

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  126. http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/tna/Ric_Flair_Done_with_TNA_Details_on_Major_Backstage_Heat.html


    WOOO! #2 on the list is abck to his old tricks it seems . Its not even funny anymore its just sad. No wait, its funny!

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  127. "There have been a number of incidents with Flair at local establishments in Orlando since he joined TNA. Flair was reportedly banned from drinking at the Hard Rock Cafe at Citiwalk due to an incident.

    There also have been many stories about Flair not being able to cover bar tabs and company management getting calls from hotel or bar management seeking payment. Something similar recently happened at a hotel TNA has a good relationship with and that was said to be the final tipping point. Flair was pulled from live events and TV tapings after that incident"

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  128. Not if we're only counting the "WCW Era". His best work was in Crockett era NWA.

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  129. lets not forget austin stole the stunner from him, as disco was chart busting the competition long before scsa!.

    Best entrance music ever!

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  130. I actually thought Rodman was one of the better celebs, at least the first year in WCW.  The match wasn't amazing, but he was competent in the ring and it made for a crazy spectacle that got tons of coverage on the news and such.  I actually enjoyed it quite a bit and thought it was well-booked to maximize the deficiencies of everyone. 

    1998 was a different story though -- they gave the match way too much time and Rodman was clearly drunk off his ass.  Malone did a good job though

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  131. Ciclope. The answer we're looking for is Ciclope.

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  132. I actually think he was pretty good for a time -- he had a LOT of surprisingly good undercard matches between 1995 and 1997 in particular.  After that I get a little fuzzy on him pre-Russo, aside from the Dancing Fools thing with Alex Wright.

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  133. Yeah that was a fun angle. 

    Always was disappointed with the match though -- it had too much Jericho offense and went on long enough for the crowd to lose their edge.  When you get a huge pop like that, I think you probably want to work a hot, quick match with Dean getting the win with some nasty move so the crowd can pop huge again.

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  134. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyMay 21, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    I'm still surprised to this day how he managed to drag a good match out of Konnan at Spring Stampede 1999. It wasn't great but was solid enough considering Konnan was involved. 

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  135. Who needs a NetCop when you have Cultstatus? Guy has hit the refresh button so many times on this topic, he's accounting for the last 100,000 page views on the Blog of Doom.

    You're right, who needs Tully Blanchard, Roddy Piper, and Magnum DA when you have Eric Bischoff and Dennis Rodman?

    I'll give Vince credit: At least he didn't put himself in the 50 Greatest WWE Stars of All Time.

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  136. I'm not surprised he's not on the list, but one guy who could be considered for it is Johnny B. Badd. He never really set the company on fire, but from '91 to '95, he was a pretty solid guy in the ring.

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  137. I get an email every time someone replies to me. My phone beeps every time I get an email. And what does Tully, TA and Piper have to do with my argument? 


    Keep pulling bullshit from thin air and I'll check it out when my phone beeps.

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  138.  Good point actually, he walked a fine line there and pulled it off beautifully.  If anything Gene was coming off a bit harsh I thought, but that'd be like the textbook best way to setup a real angle with Bret taking on guys below his level but getting beat by one of them and kickstarting a feud.

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  139. Where's El Gigante and Van Hammer? Seriously though as long as he's on the list....my shoutout to #49. "you think you impress The Rock? Why? Because a couple of months ago you were down south beating some jabroni named Juventud?"

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  140. Dirty_Dave_DelaneyMay 21, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    Also forget about Bret talking trash about Booker T, "I wanna axe you a question."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hwBJBinB3w&feature=related

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  141.  Times like this I miss living in Orlando. I went to Hard Rock Cafe dozens of times but never did I sit there (in my usual table underneath Kurt Cobain's guitar) and get to see Ric Flair causing a scene and getting turfed.

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  142. Ah yes, Ciclope...thanks.  Was that also the same night Jericho referred to El Dandy as the winner of a Lou Ferrigno look-a-like contest? 

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  143. At least they still put Dean over Jericho, though.  I gotta youtube that match and see it again.

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  144. haha that would be epic to be in a bar where security use his head to open the door (casino style).

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  145. Yup. And Marty "Rock Rock Til' You Drop, Rock Rock Never Stop" Jannetty, and "Billy Kidman. In a few years he'll turn 21 and be Billy Manman."

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  146.  When they first debuted they were "AJ Styles and Air Paris" and then they renamed them "Air Raid" and gave them G-suits. At first AJ had these butt ugly maroon trunks and Paris had these ghetto looking sky blue tights with red block letters, that looked like his mom sewed them for him.

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  147. How did Michael Hayes make this list??? List was missing many nWo key players.

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  148. Pretty good list Rodman and Bischoff shouldn't be there however..
    I miss WCW :(

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  149. Michael Hayes appearing on this list is such BS. If we're counting just the WCW years, he was part of a tag team with a title reign of negative days. Some of this list is right, but other rankings just seem to be using names they recognize from WWE.

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  150. That is a seriously awesome interview lol  How they messed up Bret, I'll never understand.

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  151.  And he was a part of the nWo, ended Goldberg's streak, and held multiple titles.

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  152. Might have something to do with the fact he was one of the most over people in the company from 1996 till its end.

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  153. Yeah, I was kind of surprised to not see Syxx. Isn't he back on good terms with Vince? Speaking of Vince, I think it's time he got over his hatred of Jeff Jarrett. Still don't see why asking for the money that's owed to you when you're on your way out is such a crime.

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  154. Seeing security do that to anyone would be pretty awesome.

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  155. Actually a pretty fair list, especially by WWE standards.  Top 4 is on point.  

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  156. Yeah, check it out, I'm curious what you think!  I love the angle, both guys, and the idea, I just wish they didn't let the crowd cool down as much as they did.

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  157. I loved the Disco Inferno.

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  158. For all the shit Tony gets, that moment proves his talent. He delivers that line with enough conviction that I almost go with it. Almost. As it stands, it's fucking hilarious.

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  159.  WM 15. Superbrawl 1999 did a 1.1 buyrate. I don't know what the number for WM was. But in The Death of WCW, they said that Superbrawl almost beat the buyrate for WM.

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  160.  That happened at the restaurant I used to work in. One of our managers who was an ex-marine and this big undercover cop were our unofficial security guards and they grabbed this one troublemaker up and ran his head into the door battering ram style to open the door and then tossed him into the parking lot. The guy was stupid drunk and probably on something too b/c it didn't even seem to hurt him that these two 250lb+ guys rammed his head as hard as they could into a door and threw him onto the asphalt b/c he lay there for like 2 minutes, blood streaming down his face and got up ranting and raving as if nothing happened.

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  161. The top 4 in this list are pretty spot on. 5 through 10 I can see the argument for. Maybe not in that order but I can buy them being in the top 10. After that it's all over the place with the obvious flub of Dean Malenko this high on the list. Higher than Mysterio? Shouldn't be surprised though it being a WWE list and all.

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  162. Tully Blanchard and Magnum TA never wrestled for WCW, unless you count Blanchard's one match against Funk.

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  163.  Here you go: http://youtu.be/ENT6asElNiM

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  164. Is he above Caliber Winfield, though?

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