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Howdy Blog of Doomers!

Excited about Bret Hart returning to Montreal...not excited enough to tune away from Monday Night Football but excited enough to watch RAW on YouTube tomorrow.

Real quick on this list of WWE DVDs. Most of them I could care less about but Best of MSG and Best of War Games gets a hearty HELL YEAH! from me. My only concern is the blood, please don't tell me they are going to go all black & white on the War Games stuff because of the blood. Screw the kids!

Top 25 Rivalries? Eh...I'd rather just have the Rock-Austin Rivalry DVD because frankly I've always been curious of what they thought of each other and how Austin viewed Rock nipping at his heels while he was doing his thing in 1998 and when did they realize that frequent, but not too frequent, encounters could send their bankrolls into a much higher tax bracket.

Do I really need another Foley Bio...no...Do I really need another Triple H bio...HELL NO. What don't I know about either of these fucking guys?

Bret Hart's unreleased matches? Hmmm that could be interesting.

That's all I got, so enjoy the show, do a little dance, make love tonight, come out swinging and keep it clean.

Comments

  1. Two big questions ahead of the night:
    1. How many times will they bring up and reference (or try and reenact) the Montreal screwjob?
    2. And the next time anyone ever chants YOU SCREWED BRET at someone, how many more times will McMahon bark instructions to an announcer to moan about how fans still can't let go of it and will never get over it? 

    I'll tune in and out of the Bret segments, watch anything else interesting on youtube, and watch the White Sox game. (Until the Angels play, at least.) Pennant races may not be 'telling stories', but I'll probably enjoy watching em more. 

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  2. I think we need a Mick Foley bio, just because the first DVD we got was a collection of matches, and I'd like some backstory and two more disks of matches (like, Jack v. Vader from Havoc, Jack/Sullivan v. Nasty title change, Jack/Sabu and the belt spitting promo (though that might have been on the first one... but I don't remember it) Mankind/UT from King of the Ring 96, Foley/Orton, Foley/Flair... 

    I do <3 the Bret Hart unreleased matches, War Games, Best of MSG and Best of In Your House. 

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  3. I've tried watching Raw live the last few weeks, no DVR, no fast forwarding through commercials or stupid parts. Just sitting and watching the show. I just can't do it. I've got the DVR set and I'll watch the show before work tomorrow morning.

    It's just not worth it.

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  4. I'll pick Cena challenging CM Punk to a match, which Punk accepts ONLY if Heyman can be the ref (which for some reason, Cena accepts) as the setup to the Montreal reenactment of the night

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  5. I can't imagine any Foley matches that are worth it and haven't been released already. The bio could be worth a watch on Netflix, though.

    Right there with you on he other four DVDs, though.

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  6. Yes! Time to relive Montreal! 

    I hope these sublte reminders lead to AJ Lee turning heel and screwing John Cena out of the title at the next pay-per-view, and then months and months of Cena the face versus the heel GM AJ Lee. When was the last time we saw something like that? 

    Jesus Bret, cut the fucking hair. 

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  7. Has Bret aged a lot since the last time he was on television?

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  8. The thing you don't know about Triple H is that as good as you think he is, which is damn good, he's actually much better. He's the Game. He's beat them all. His dick is huge. Bigger than them all. Especially Jericho's. 

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  9. The Bret Hart colored plaid shirt is fantastic.

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  10. Fuck that shit. Hell, have the "swerve" be that Punk is picking Hart as his manager, not Heyman.

    Bret as CM Punk's manager would be far more interesting than Heyman, if only because it would further protect CM Punk and salvage something from this mess by having Cena painted as the bad guy by someone with cred to back up Punk's contempt for Cena.     

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  11. "I'm proud of dat day."

    Haha, I love the Canadian accent. 

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  12. Bret looks older than ever... and he stole my dad's "picnic shirt".

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  13. Also who dresses Bret? I mean I love the guy, but my god he dresses like two steps above a homeless person. 

    Having him cut a promo that's part of the act is going to be a absolute train-reck, the crowd is going to want to do their thing and are just going to get in the way of whatever nonsense they want to try. 

    That pop was epic, I don't want their "Sports Entertainment" to ruin it. 

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  14. This crowd is going to be marky as shit.

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  15. Why is Punk in the ring with Ozzy Osbourne?

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  16. Punk looks like a bad ass with the facial hair and the new haircut.

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  17. I'm watching football. As much as I like just not watching Raw sometimes, I'd much rather not watch it in favor of football.

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  18. Is Disqus eating commnets again on this thread?

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  19. Bret Hart is the only person that could make Punk a heel. This is very natural. And good.

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  20. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything about Raw so far, which is probably exactly why it's part of the thread. 

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  21. Why were they chanting Ole at him? It's not a soccer match. Were they expecting an El Generico run in?

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  22. Oh man, I am DYING to hear Bret call Punk "scum."

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  23. They chant that at Canadiens games.

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  24.  I'd watch a Foley bio but it wouldn't be able to go into as much detail as his books do so it's almost pointless.

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  25. If you want Punk to have heel heat, have him kick Bret in the head...

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  26. Punk is so awesome right now.

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  27. Thank god they're actually cutting wrestling promos and not trying to act.

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  28. Bret looks like a lighter-skinned F. Murray Abraham. 

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  29. "There wasn't one time Jerry Lawler didn't show up!" 

    Um... Survivor Series 93? 

    Also Bret Hart kicking it to the Titan Tron? LAME... seem my earlier post about the crowd's awesome pop and their lame "Sports Entertainment." 

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  30. If these two keep talking in the ring to fill up the remaining time, it could be one of the best shows  ever.

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  31. Punk is killing it tonight. One of his best promos, IMO

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  32. Or Summerslam '93, when he sent out Doink instead.

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  33. That comeback by Bret was pretty awesome.
     

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  34. Well, the show is going to be all downhill from here.

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  35. Punk would've jumped the sinking ship for WCW, where he would run out his career wrestling La Parka on Saturday Night. Good strategy. 

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  36. Extra conditioner for fragile hair, Bret.  Look into it.  That or a haircut.

    And if you're so sure Lawler never ducked out on your matches, go watch Summerslam '93 again. :)

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  37. That was Bret's best promo since he came back.

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  38. "Jerry Lawler always showed up"... well, except for Survivor Series '93

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  39. Is this the best opponent list they can come up with? Just book Orton vs. Punk then.

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  40. There should be a hashtag #noonewantstoseeanyofthosematches

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  41. What is that horrible music playing during "RawActive"?

    Also, what a stupid fucking name. "RawActive"? How is that clever or resembling anything close to a play on words?

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  42. Miz is on; I'm off to Baltimore.

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  43. He also tried to skip out on his Summerslam match with Bret, by substituting Doink in his place.

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  44. Turned on Raw during a football commerical....who is the POA with Cesaro?? She's hot.

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  45. If they don't gimmick that poll, they're gonna be really surprised when Orton gets the least amount of votes.

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  46. Cesaro's new theme, which is worse: generic WWE alt rock or generic WWE hip hop?

    I personally liked his original theme.

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  47. Congratulations;  I believe that that's the first time in history that the above sentence has ever been written!

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  48. So glad AJ didn't come during the Bret-Punk segment.

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  49. The return of TWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That always cracks me up.

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  50. When Kofi leaps at his opponent and vaguely sort of hits them with his arms, what is he "supposed" to be doing?

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  51. The new one is way worse. Just not good at all.

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  52. This match certainly didnt do anything to help Cesaro look formidable.

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  53. Why is Cesaro supposed to be a heel?

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  54. Doesn't Sheamus calling it a TEXAS cloverleaf sort of the defeat the purpose of adding it to his irish-themed repertoire? Or am I overthinking?

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  55. ...shouldn't you tell him that BEFORE the match, Booker?

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  56. The banning of a babyface's finishing move is always the last straw of a floundering title run. 

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  57. Something tells me pleading your case to Bret that you should be allowed to kick your opponent straight in the head probably isn't going to get you very far...

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  58. It's the A.D.D. nature of thi..oooh, cookies!

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  59. Lipschitz? Who the hell wrote his lines. Its like comedy, but only the exact opposite

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  60. Oh no...this is going to be a trainwreck.

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  61. Are they serious with this skit? Really?

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  62. AH STOP WITH THE CLOSE UPS!

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  63. I'm guessing this wont be the last of the WWE's digital segments.

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  64. This is all the evidence you need to see that they want Sheamus to be the new Cena. All this is right out of the goofy, pandering Cena playbook.

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  65. Well, at least they're not doing this live in the ring.

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  66. Arrgh this offends me as an attorney AND a wrestling fan!

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  67. the competition for most posts on this board between the jobber and ryan murphy is far more exciting than this ep of raw!

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  68. This video is awful.  It's like an episode of Law & Order SVU, except my eyes were what was being raped.

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  69. Just because those pre-taped skits worked with Bryan and Kane, it doesn't mean they're gonna work with EVERYBODY.

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  70. He should rename it as the Texas Shamrock!

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  71. OBJECTION!

    The character Sheamus has the last name O'Shaunessy.

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  72. WTF was that? Is halftime over yet?

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  73. Why would I want to cheer for Sheamus for acting like a petulant childish jackass?

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  74. He's got to start doing it like Nash did, and then gleefully accept being put in handcuffs and chanting, "Attica!  Attica!"

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  75. What in the fucking fuck of fucktastic fucks was that?!?!?!

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  76. When they cut to the shot of the crowd watching the pre-taped deposition, everybody looked SO bored...

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  77. Clicked to football, it was boring. Clicked back to Raw, it was stupid. Back to football, timeout. To Family Guy, in commercial. Football, back to commercial. Raw, commercial. THE FUCK? Back to football, timeout, then timeout by the other coach, finally two plays and a touchdown before HALFTIME. It was like 15 minutes where I was watching TV but nothing was on. 

    The game was in halftime, I had no choice but to watch THAT STUPID SKETCH. 

    Isn't Sheamus' last name O'Sheamus? 

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  78. Probably because Vince thinks it's hilarious. He is the guy who thinks the film "Wild Hogs" is one of the funniest films ever made.

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  79. Well it's not that he was afraid of Bret or anything. He was charged with raping a young girl. It's not like he's a coward or anything.

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  80. Nash screaming Attica is legit one of the funniest moments in wrestling.

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  81. Just tried to make sense of Eve teaming with the faces and the face/heel alignment in general of the divas and my nose started to bleed. 

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  82. Jesus, King...can you stop being a perv for 2 minutes?

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  83. 10 years from now, AJ''s neck will be in worse shape than Edge's.

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  84. Yeah, the whole thing was bizarre. The crowd was confused too as they were silent.

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  85. Oh, so it must be the 2nd Monday of the month; that's the day Alicia Fox randomly decides to be a heel.

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  86.  But she doesn't care, because she's CRAZY.

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  87. Did Nattie have her implants removed???

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  88. Kaitlyn vs Layla

    Potential Worst Match of The Year Candidate ladies and gentlemen...

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  89. It's sad that the Diva's Championship is the most promoted of the secondary titles.

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  90. UPDATE : Murphy pulls to within 3 of the Jobber! Will he overcome the odds and take the title home tonight?? Stay Tuned......

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  91. Yes Michael, and before that, the Hart Foundation actually sometimes wore blue and black wrestling attire... just like Randy Orton is wearing! SO THE FUCK WHAT???

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  92. It makes my head hurt to think that Orton is already a 9-time champ.

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  93. One of these days the writers will figure out whether Alicia Fox is a face or a heel? Maybe she's a tweener?

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  94. Shame Punk didn't have a gimongous tv screen in front of him to let him know Orton was coming...oh, he did?

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  95. Ever since returning, Orton looks more disengaged by the day. He doesnt even bother with facial expressions and is clearly going through the motions.

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  96.  WWE continuity and/or logic alert!

    Cole goes on records as saying that Punk hasn't main evented a PPV since Dec.

    Yet title (World or WWE) match is promoted as a WM main event... even if it goes on 1st.

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  97. Some fun with Twitter facts: Orton got about 20000 tweets, Brodus and Lawler got about 4000 each. 

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  98. I found a new thing to annoy me (not that we've been lacking those)... "Paul Heyman is the reason CM Punk is in WWE". My brain heard that and immediately went "that should be THE WWE" and then I realized no it shouldn't, what Cole said is actually grammatically correct. Which pisses me off, because a federation is a thing. It requires a definite article. Entertainment is amorphous. It's just.. there. I'm not articulating this correctly, but it still pisses me off.

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  99. Punk is straight ripping Bret's whole moveset right now. Love it.

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  100. Another problem with Cena's run, unCreative's so used to 50/50 reactions, that they can't take the hint that a turn on Rock, walk out in Chicago, and crapping on Hart in Canada still can't get him full heel.

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  101. Cena is not from Boston, Cole.

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  102. Technically, isn't "Vintage Orton" Cowboy Bob?

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  103. Ugh...terrible finish.

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  104. There's your tag team main event tonight.

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  105. Isn't that convenient how Lawler came in wearing his gear.

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  106. Punk having to sell for Lawler like that at this stage in Punk's career and this stage in Lawler's is fucking ridiculous. 

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  107. Are you fucking kidding me? Can Orton EVER look vulnerable? I mean...FUCK. Jesus. God forbid your top heel look in the slightest bit credible. He gets clowned by Orton and now getting slapped around by Lawler. 

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  108. They explained way earlier that he knew about the poll so came in his gear.

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  109. Hey, gotta protect the guy who is one mistake away from being fired.

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  110. Punk a weak heel? really? This is stupid

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  111.  How come? It worked for Miz's reign....oh, it didn't?

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  112. Ha, I actually forgot the poll, which twenty minutes ago. Sorry, but that match was kinda dull

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  113.  I'd rather be watching Dan Rathers and Rachel Maddow engage in awkward verbal blowjobs than watch this unfolding trainwreck of fail and AIDS. And this comes from someone who loves Rathers adn Maddow and is a die-hard leftie!!!!

    That said, can they PLEASE give Ziggler a haircut? The name isn't way people can't take him seriously, it's that god-awful haircut of his.

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  114. Vipers are never vulnerable. 

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  115. I might care about this match if it was Cena and Orton instead of a 60 something announcer.

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  116. How about Apex Predators?

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  117. Or has blackmail material on Vince that he has used to secure Golden Boy status....

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  118. Heyman's ponytail never ceases to amaze me.

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  119. Punk: "Excuse me." LOL

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  120. lol @ Punk saying, "Excuse me" before going back to talking to Heyman.

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  121. I don't understand. They can use any one of literally hundreds (thousands?) of wrestlers worldwide to feud with Punk, yet they decide on a retired announcer.

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  122. God, this is the laziest booking. 

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  123. DEAD @ Punk and Heyman walking off like they were taking a walk in the park.

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  124. Once in a lifetime until next Wrestlemania?

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  125. If you ever ask yourself why does this company fails to make new stars, you have your answer. They rely on the same people over and over again. N

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  126. Fuck, if they have to have Heyman show up, why not have him show up to recruit Ziggler to work alongside Punk as a unit, without Vicky holding him back?

    My fucking God, if you have to make us endure Heyman being used to get Punk cheap heat as his manager, fucking go all out and fucking recreate the Dangerous Alliance group so at least Punk can have a group of like-minded allies running rampant...... 

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  127. Wish Impact was still on Mondays. 

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  128. Kane and Bryan are the best thing about WWE right now. 

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  129. Sorry, but unless Heyman is leading a stable that includes Punk, this seems like a waste. Punk doesnt need Heyman do to his talking. There are others on the roster that could use Heyman to help them get over.

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  130. was watching football (and tennis?!?), tuned in just in time to see
    Super Orton taking out both Punk and Ziggler, and then Geriatric Lawler join the fray and take out Punk. and with that, 27+ years of WWF(E) fandom may have finally been snuffed out.  not with a bang, but with an exasperated "eh, I just don't fucking care anymore" whimper.  hey, remember 14 months ago when Punk was very briefly the most compelling "SUPERSTAR (TM)" of the past 10 years?  yeah, me neither.

    more than anything, it really is WWE's (Vince's?) steadfast desire to tell us "FUCK YOU, you WILL boo CM Punk because we tell you to, oh and FUCK YOU, that's why" that has fueled my antipathy.  looking forward to the War Games DVD though!

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  131. If Kane and Bryan become a team, their finisher needs to be called "The Trust Fall"

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  132. I get what you're saying as Punk definitely doesn't need a mouthpiece. But he does need someone as loathsome as Heyman is to the fans to keep himself heel.

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  133. I would have put Punk with someone like Ziggler.

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  134. He needs to feud with someone named, "the Mongoose".

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  135. Bret... looks like Stu with Long hair.

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  136. As long as Punk acts like he has tonight and they get get other faces besides Cena and Sheamus, he will be fine. The real problem is that they are terrible at making faces the fans want to care about.

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  137. Put the World title on The Ryback please.

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  138. Hello, all!  So the Bengals have completely wet the bed and I came back to Raw.  Have I missed anything?

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  139. Dear lord, this Tag-Title contender stuff is a waste of time.

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  140. Seems like Punk is going after Legends.  This whole thing has been about an Austin feud.  Been saying it since he turned.

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  141. PTP are irritatingly addictive.

    AJ in a tie and open collar blouse, mmmmmmm.

    Further proof WWE mines BoD: Kane/Bryan as a team challenging for the tag titles! (we know theyll beat PTP)

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  142. If they hotshot Bryan and Kane into number one contenders and have them win the titles this Sunday...I am more than fine with this. 

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  143. @RandyOrton: FEED...ME...SMORES

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  144. YES!! Let's bury one of the few teams that you've built up and gotten over to a team that will be feuding by nex PPV.

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  145. Well they won't give him an actual program until he comes back from filming a movie.  Don't worry, he'll be in the main event soon enough.

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  146. I get you.  It's like when Bret made the jump to WCW and always said "the WCW".

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  147. Now they are showing the "Don't try this at home" promo on the shows???  At least I can fast forward through it on DVR.

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  148. Ugh.... Do we want that? Seriously, do we want weeks of Austin mocking Punk for not drinking beer and beating his wife?

    Just have Bret be Punk's evil manager; have him turn on Heyman/Hart turn on Cena and build up Bret revealing that he's still bitter as fuck at being screwed over by Vince/HBK and that Punk is his instrument for destroying the WWE.........

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  149. Hasn't the PTP's ship sailed at this point?  They've been chasing the belts since May.  Not really much point in giving them a 4th or 5th straight title shot.

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  150. Fuck ton of marks in the crowd (the ptp dance, really) lol on oui though

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  151. They would have been better off having the PTP win at the PPV and then having Kane and Bryan take the titles off them later.  Poor Kofi and R-Truth are gonna be dead in the water in Boston, cuz you know Bryan and Kane will be the de facto faces.

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  152. I officially like the PTP now.

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  153. Shame the WWE wont take the training wheels off of the PTP's.

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  154. If they don't pull the trigger by the next PPV they've missed the boat.

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  155. I just think it'll be funny to see them try and pull off a feud in TVPG land where the heel refrains from alcohol and the face is a drunk.

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  156. Bad sign when is crowd was absolutely dead for Bryan on the top rope.

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  157. Something happen to Lawler?

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  158. Hopefully he was fired.

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  159. Whoa! Apparently Jerry Lawler collapsed at the booth and was unconscious as he was carried out.

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  160. Of all the shitty endings they could have used here, they might have used the shittiest.

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  161. Actually, it looked like it could have been something serious. Commentary was dead for a few minutes and there was a "Jerry" chant. Hopefully he's OK

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  162. When was the last time they did wacky tag champs that hate each other? John Cena and the Nexus? 

    Also why isn't The King on commentary... sorry I was watching football until it became a blow out. 

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  163. From Arda Ocal on twitter:  "I sincerely hope Jerry is OK. When I looked over he was hunched over convulsing in his seat and collapsed, then multiple ppl carried him out"

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  164. I was wondering what the hell happened at commentary... is Lawler OK?

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  165. This show is infinitely better when you mute it and watch various Rockers vs. Brain Busters matches on YouTube while its on in the background.

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  166. If it was a serious injury, then I sincerely hope he is okay. I really hope it wasnt a heart attack scare or anything.

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  167.  I noticed the same thing. I started watching late but has the crowd been this dead for everything so far? They seemed jacked during the Bret/Punk highlight from earlier so I dunno what killed them.

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  168. According to twitter, he had some kind of seizure or passed out and security came out and carried him away.

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  169. Damn, looks like I lost my matchup in the BoD fantasy league. Torrey Smith was my last hope.

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  170.  You have a definite point.

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  171. http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/118-daily-updates/27419-whats-going-on-in-montreal-something-happened-to-lawler

    Not good. 

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  172. So after putting a 60 year old in a match, he collapses. Instead of cutting the match short and going to commercial, WWE sends a security team(not a medical team) to carry him out. Seriously, fuck WWE.

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  173. The incident with Lawler took the crowd out of the match, I think. 

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  174. the stupid thing is: don't they realize what they are causing by this? I still torn on to whether or not spend a lot of money on Raw tickets when they return Europe. and the thing is: who do you think I (and: guys like me) will cheer fear? and even try to cheer louder than before?

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  175. Agree. When there is a seizure, you get medical staff out ASAP.

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  176. Yeah, that was probably the case. i hope Jerry is okay.

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  177. I know Meltzer isn't back there, but what he's reporting is they don't know what to do backstage. I'd almost believe it. I guess they are sending the next match out there. Cole isn't saying anything about Lawler, and he is still doing the show alone. 

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  178. I prefer the Eaton/Lane version of Mx vs. the Rock and Roll Express.

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  179. I wasn't paying attention. Is THAT why they were chanting for Lawler?

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  180.  Wow...this is the best work since Shawn Michaels collapse after Owen's enzuigiri!

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  181. I don't think anyone cares, as long as they take a good beating.

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  182. RING THE BELL! RING THE BELL! RING THE FUCKING BELL! 

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  183. Anyone remember the rumors around MITB that Kidd was line for a push?

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  184. Ricardo is my hero for STILL selling that neck while announcing. 

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