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Live RAW thread

Just posting this again in case TPrincess is still busy. This might be the lowest rated RAW ever tonight.

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  1. Why did they get rid of the matching tights?

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  2. Was just gonna say the same thing. They had matching gear for one week, then just say "nah, fuck it?"

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  3. I'd say it's their way of foreshadowing a breakup, but that would require forward thinking, which I'm not sure the writers are capable of.

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  4. Fuck the debates. It's Raw time!
    (on the other hand, I have many interests in the football game... go Calvin! go Forte!)

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  5. Amen on "Go Forte!" A few points from Hanson wouldn't hurt, either.

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  6. Sandow is the man... ? For football fans was it wise taking the lions +6.5 for $200?

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  7. Under was the play tonight.

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  8. I wouldn't have taken Lions +16.5 tonight...

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  9. Being serious here, but maybe it's because it was difficult for the average viewer to tell them apart?

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  10. So the Lions can lose by 6 and you still get money? I don't understand how the whole betting with/against(?) the spread works. But if it means you think the Lions will at worst lose by 6 points... I'd be okay with that.

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  11. I'm sorry, but I just plain hate the 619.

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  12. Wouldn't surprise me. Of course, also wouldn't surprise me if Sin Cara had a botch at the catering table and spilled spaghetti sauce all over his green stuff.

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  13. I wonder if this is the "third time" Rey has had this "stomach bug".

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  14. Why would you name your finisher "Dropping the Dime"? Why not just call it "The Tattle-taler."

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  15. I was really thinking that the emergency "Board of Directors" meeting with AJ would be to announcer Rey's third Wellness Violation...

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  16. Fuck Raw, it's Giants/Cardinals Game 7!

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  17. I'll answer that question in about three hours.

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  18. Meltzer is reporting that he has been extremely ill and bed-ridden for days

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  19. Too each its own im up 585 from yesterday

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  20. Quick show of hands: who thinks Kofi getting the IC title makes him matter?


    Didn't think so.

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  21. They both have a huge wardrobe, and just coincidentally managed to grab gear that resembled the other's?

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  22. The title in itself doesn't make him matter. The way that the issue went down with Miz does.

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  23. CHANGE HIS FUCKING NAME.

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  24. The Giants played Washington and the Cardinals played the VIkings last night.

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  25. Not necessarily doubting it, just the cynic in me wonders when he takes the pin...though in Vince logic, Rey's probably being punished for not having the proper immune system for the business.

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  26. Giants on the board first woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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  27. I can't stand the Cardinals. Would love to see the Giants complete the big-time comeback.

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  28. "Will John Cena endorse Ryback That's the question!"


    WHAT THE FUCK??!?! Fuck HHH, fuck Nash, John Cena is the new Poochie.

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  29. I recognize none of those Giants. But I love that one was wearing an Ultimate Warrior t-shirt. Where are they tonight?

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  30. David Diehl had the shirt of the night on.

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  31. Jersey. David Deihl's the one with the belt/Warrior shirt. Former starting tackle, kind of got Wally Pipped with an injury.

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  32. Ive been saying that FOR MONTHS

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  33. Change?!


    CHANGE?!


    Cena is a homeless South Park bum?

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  34. Listen to those piped in chants!

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  35. LISTEN TO THAT CROWD GO SO MILD!!!

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  36. I'll give them this much, Ryback v. Punk is probably the most intriguing match they've had since Punk v. Cena at Money in the Back, where I really don't think I know what the finish is, and either guy going over is interesting. So that's been well done.

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  37. WHAT THE FUCK IS A RYBACK?!

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  38. Yes CM PUNK~! The Giants DO SUCK~!

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  39. Yeah, after that Infield Fly BS, I've taken a disliking to them.

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  40. if the Lions are +6.5... take the final score and add 6.5 to the Lions. If at that point the Lions win the game, people who bet on the Lions win.

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  41. Dude, it's the big bald guy that looks like Goldberg with the RVD tights.

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  42. AGAIN!!! THE TITLE DOESNT MATTER TO JOHN CENA!

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  43. Now I'm thinking Cena screws Ryback accidentally on Sunday... you know, comes in to help but costs him the belt instead.

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  44. So, the crowd boos Punk, they continue to boo Cena, and now they're booing Cena hyping Ryback beating Punk. I think we've covered all the bases in making the audience hate everyone in the main event. Awesome.

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  45. Paul Heyman is just awesome as Punk's voice of reason.

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  46. Heyman is such an awesome slime ball.

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  47. Why have an adviser if you're not going to listen to him, Punk?

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  48. "YOU NEVER FIGHT FOR FREE!" was so awesome.

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  49. What the fuck is a battle of the bee smiths, JR?

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  50. Newark and Rutherford are two different cesspools in Jersey. I know. I live here.

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  51. What makes it even better is that at the rate he bounced checks in ECW, if weren't for guys fighting for free, he couldn't have put on a show.

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  52. Jumping Jim Brunzell and B. Brian Blair are going to fight? Tune in to RAW to find out!!!

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  53. Beats me, but it probably has something to do with barbecue sauce.

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  54. The only dime Rey cares about are dime bags.

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  55. This is how you draw money - WCW 2000-style.

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  56. One midget is covered in tats. The other one isn't.

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  57. Did Justin Gabriel buy these arm bands at Michelle McCool's yard sale?

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  58. I know the Iron Sheik wants Blair dead.

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  59. So far, it sounds like my plan to watch Game 7 and the debate has been a good idea.

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  60. I don't know about that, but one of them has been humbled.

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  61. That's why I mentioned the "average" viewer, as some tuning in sparingly might not notice this, or know which one has tats and which one doesn't.

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  62. If you hit the SAP button during Sesaro's promo, does he speak English?


    (Also, seperately, if you've never done it, hit the SAP button during the WrestleMania 19 match between McMahon and Hogan during their fight on the floor... there's a point where Hugo Cevitawhatever gets nailed and its hilarious).

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  63. Sounds like a good start to a tasty sandwich to me. Head to Schlotsky's for the corned beef on Ryback!

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  64. Rey seems like one of those "if I'm legitimately too hurt or sick to wrestle, I'm not wrestling, and if you try to low ball me on a contract offer, I'm not signing it" kind of guys. Which means he doesn't truly love the business, or something like that.

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  65. Holy crow, Gabriel over Cesaro? Okay.

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  66. Is Cesaro not feeling "well"?

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  67. THIS FEUD MUST CONTINUE~! or be forgotten about next week.

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  68. Makes sense, Secondary title holder in the middle of a push, let a cruiserweight beat him.

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  69. Put it on PPV for a strong Cesaro victory.

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  70. Honey forged swords vs royal jelly war hammers.

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  71. Evan Bourne just put down the bong and realized he is a lot healthier now.

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  72. Just last week I was saying how refreshing it was to have a mid card title holder win his matches...

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  73. Just hope he's not advising him on financial matters.

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  74. Did You Know?
    Raw is the 4th most interesting live programming airing tonight. But still the longest running weekly episodic sometimes sports sometimes entertainment television show in history.

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  75. Why did AJ have a look on her face like McMahon told her to touch his grapefruits or she was going to lose her job?

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  76. More original: Raw or debates?

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  77. I'm guessing Gabriel's win means he will wrestle and lose his match against Cesaro for the title at the PPV, or the Youtube Pregame show.

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  78. Little known fact - "the business" is Vince's pet name for his penis.

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  79. 450 into a European uppercut?

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  80. Vince: "Now get down on your knees, AJ, and bark like a dog! Oh...Linda's running for Senate? Okay, then just kiss my ass!"

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  81. Yeah, an AJ interview won't keep people from switching the channel.

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  82. They don't know how to push anybody. Obviously the want to get to Gabriel v. Cesaro at the ppv (at least I hope that's what they want... now that I right it it's not that obvious). So in the old days, you'd have Cesaro win a bunch of matches, and Gabriel win some matches, and maybe they'd to like a time limit draw between the champ and challenger to make you believe that Gabriel has a chance.


    But they've apparently forgotten how to do that. Or, they've just decided they'd like to do that match this morning, realized that Cesaro beat him last week, so boom here you go.

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  83. I can think of one way...

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  84. "Here to tell you about that meeting in her own retarded headsnaps, eyerolls, and awkward pauses is AJ Lee."

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  85. Oh wow! More general manager nonsense. NO ONE CARES ABOUT THIS.

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  86. Make her get on her knees and bark like a dog, Vince.

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  87. I hope this crowd crushes her.

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  88. Apparently the crowd likes crazy chicks.

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  89. This is her hometown, I think she'll be fine.

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  90. Shouldn't Vince as the boss be held accountable to the board for hiring a mentally unstable person as GM?

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  91. Continuity has no place in wrestling storylines.

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  92. What GM hasn't been mentally unstable?

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  93. At first, I thought this was out of nowhere and makes no sense. But now I realize they're in AJ's hometown, so per WWE doctrine, they have to embarrass her in her hometown. See also Ross, Jim.

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  94. This is why they cant build up any talent. Someone debuts, gets a few wins, and when they lose, they are forgotten about and sent right back down the card. Going back to squash matches will never happen due to the pressure of getting ratings but it really is the most effective way to build up talent. Look at Ryback.

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  95. Somewhere Chris Murphy has a staffer hoping AJ takes this speech to "I've beeped more beep than a beep in beep"

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  96. Except that Sid somehow still got cheered through all of it.

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  97. The computer was pretty fair.

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  98. 2002 era Bischoff?

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  99. What are they going for now? Rise Above Poverty?

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  100. Don't forget about lack of acting ability, Paul.

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  101. ...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here's Paul to destroy any shred of dignity AJ had left.

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  102. Ok, I'm catching up on the show so far. How the fuck did Michael McGilliHennig get on this show?

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  103. Will we get Flair to blow up Twitter?

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  104. She still hasn't answered his wedding proposal yet...

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  105. He needs someone with a good credit rating, Paul.

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  106. Something like this wouldn't be the worst place to use time limit draw gimmick. Not that I can remember the last time WWE used it outside of iron man matches but have Gabriel going up as time's running down, hit's the 450....time runs out without knowing if Cesaro kicks out or not......a little bit of doubt for PPV, no loss for Cesaro...but nah, 50/50 booking

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  107. Like with everything else on this show, nobody was paying attention.

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  108. I'm watching this AJ resignation segment and the whole time I'm thinking "When is Ric Flair gonna appear already?" How long has this delay been now, three months?

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  109. The same Bischoff that sexually assaulted both McMahon women and held a petty grudge against his own disabled nephew?

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  110. I thought they were bringing Johnny Ace back. This is worse.

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  111. What the fuck is a Managing Supervisor???

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  112. So you fire AJ for "allegedly" screwing a wrestler but hire Vickie who's was "allegedly" fucking Ziggler and the Big Show?

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  113. Matt Cain shouldn't be sitting in the bullpen when he's not starting...he needs to stay in the dugout and be ready to come in as a pinch hitter.

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  114. Shit is still shit no matter what you call it.

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  115. Wouldn't this have been the perfect time to turn Dolph face? He dumps Vickie, she gets promoted to GM, she makes his life a living hell. New spin on the evil GM angle.

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  116. I missed a touchdown by 20 seconds. Shit.

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  117. I wonder how many points this quarter hour will lose?

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  118. LUMBERJACK MATCH? What is this, 1986?

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  119. I know I should know better by now, but PLEEEEASE let them mean a half-decent push for Justin Gabriel!

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  120. Heyman oversold that worse than Vince taking a stunner.

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  121. Compared to the rest of WWE, Bischoff should be eligible for sainthood.

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  122. The presidential election is actually a lot like WWE main events: You know Obama's going to win no matter what just like you know that John Cena's going to win every match no matter what.

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  123. How many points does the BoD represent?

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  124. This segment is painful to watch

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  125. Thought they might have given it to Lawler.

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  126. WHY WON"T THEY PUT REGAL IN CHARGE?!?!?! Okay, no more yelling.

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  127. I like Vickie well enough as a manager, but I'm gonna bit this GM role is very short lived ala her prior brief stint on a Raw back in May 2010 I went to where she quit the same night.

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  128. You can now go upside Vickie's head now, AJ.

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  129. Is this fucking Claire Lynch all over again? The FUCK???

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  130. New as in "hasn't been done since Vickie was doing it to Edge a couple years back"

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  131. The Giants need to pay Scutaro whatever he wants.


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  132. Vickie Guerrero is an authority figure again. Welcome back to 2007...and 2010.

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  133. This is just bad. I hope at least a part of Vickie likes her job, just depressing all around that she's a legacy hand that has to earn money because of Eddie. Would be horrible to think she's miserable to boot.

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  134. If this gets Vickie away from Dolph then I guess I can live with it.

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  135. Because he has two Wellness Violations.

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  136. That would have almost been original.

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  137. Does anyone really watch Smackdown?

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  138. Again, 2 strikes is fun to imagine (Orton, I'm looking at you), but does anyone really think 2 strikes matters until and only until WWE has chewed up and is ready to spit out the corpse? If they really thought Regal as GM would work, you know they'd go with it. As long as he doesn't pee on anyone else on an airplane, he'd be good to go.

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  139. This show is the same unfocused mess it always is. What should I do instead. I'm doing a TWITTER POLL!


    #Madde13 to play Madden 13.
    #killthings to play Modern Warfare 3.

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  140. From a kayfabe view, Vince must be paying a ton to eat the contracts of 5 Raw GMs in 2 years. That'd be a funny thing to bring up on the next conference call.

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  141. Almost starting to regret the Austin/McMahon feud now. This stupid fucking idea has been stale for 10 years now and with every new evil GM, it just gets worse.

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  142. Red Sox fan here. I liked Scutaro a lot. He was ragged on for some reason, mostly because modern day Red Sox fans think everyone has to be an All-Star of they're worthless, but I thought he played well. Then they traded him to free up money to sign a pitcher who had no interested in playing in Boston. That's some fine management right there.

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  143. Since you're online, may I add. #watchlesbianporn?

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  144. LIke a few years ago when the Redskins had something like $30 million in dead cap space on bonuses they paid to players they later cut. That thought is actually hilarious. Hopefully by now he's learned not to guarantee GM contracts. I mean, has he liked any since Bischoff?

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  145. Yes, but I also remember 2010 being the year that Vickie had a stint as SmackDown GM. This company has a major hard-on for Vickie Guerrero: Authority Figure.

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  146. Love the shirt, Miz. I see a LOT of people buying that.

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  147. What the fuck happened to the Cards?

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  148. At least Claire Lynch had Daniels and Kaz for comedy relief. What has this angle got going for it?

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  149. Haters heart me? Oh man! That is going to set off all those slut bitch haters in the cafeteria!

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  150. From the times I've checked out her Twitter, she actually seems to enjoy interacting with fans.

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  151. Yeah, gotta love all those "Goldberg" chants for the guy about to headline the next PPV!

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  152. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm getting closer to finding something else to do on Monday nights. I'm already focusing more on the baseball and football games tonight.

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  153. That was my thought. NFL head coaches normally have guaranteed contracts so getting fired a year into a contract can be a blessing in disguise.


    Didn't he dump Eric into the garbage to end his tenure?

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  154. "Feed me more" doesn't mean they're chanting for Ryback, it just means they're calling the hot dog guy back over.

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  155. What, did Miz not take that kick from Kofi properly or something? Geez.

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  156. Well, so much for Miz looking like a badass last Wednesday.

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  157. Shouldn't Ryback do the right thing and change the name of "Shell Shock" to "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder?"

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  158. October is Bullying Awareness Month. Bullying should NOT be tolerated and should never be rewarded!

    Also, if you're just joining us, Vickie Guerrero is the new Raw GM!

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  159. Well since she hasn't accepted his proposal, she isn't too stupid.

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  160. I heartily endorse this event or product.

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  161. I haven't watched Raw in months. I follow the product by reading Scott's rants and that's about it. I made it from the beginning until Vickie was introduced as the GM (or whatever the fuck they are calling her). Seriously, what has happened to the sport I used to love? To start, why the hell is every tag team called "Team so and so"? Are the Usos "Team Usos" too? The WWE seems determined to make everyone cookie cutouts and not allow anyone to get over.


    Also it appears that nobody is over. Cena was getting little reaction, Skip Sheffield's chant was barely getting traction, and the crowd was showing apathy towards Punk. I know my rant isn't raising any complaints that haven't already been raised, but I swear, if they don't do something soon Raw will be cancelled within two years.

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  162. I get the feeling they're going to conveniently forget all about the "bosses can't touch the talent" rule for Vickie.

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  163. Alright, here's Kaitlyn to stand up for the girl that slapped the piss out of her a few months ago!

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  164. Not to take things political but Mitt's going Nixon in the debate, sweating it up under the lights.

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  165. Hard to tell which is more pathetic, the fact that there's been five GMs in 2 years or the fact that the longest-tenured GM of the last 5 years was a fucking computer. That laptop must have gotten a sweet severance package.

    And I'm betting that at the next conference call, the first question will be "So Vince, where's this WWE Network that you promised would launch on April 1st?".

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  166. Ryback must be a main eventer...he's got John Freakin' Cena cutting his promos for him!

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  167. Potato chips can be abrasive to the skin!

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  168. Giants are butt fucking the Cards, Mitt is heavily sweating, and Raw is Meh


    This is how a Monday Night should be.

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  169. Eve with glasses = extremely hot.
    She needs to keep that look.

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  170. The whole bullying campaign is just ridiculous when their product features scripted fighting and feuds.


    Take a page from other groups and find a 3rd party issue that can in no way reflect poorly on your product. The Komen/BCA campaign is a good start.

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  171. I'm happy with how this night is going as well.

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  172. Also, DA BEARS!

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  173. This is America after all...

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  174. I'd be a lot happier if I can get 10 more fantasy points out of Forte and Hanson combined.

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  175. This is what they always do when the chips are down. Wait another hour, it will get better...

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  176. Bryan/Ziggler will make everything right with the world again.

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  177. "Team Usos" would just be stupid.

    They're "Team THE Usos", thank you very much.

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  178. Dolph Ziggler being regarded a World Champ is like a practice squad guy getting a Super Bowl ring - sure, it happened, but that doesn't make it true.

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  179. Or Kane could take Bryan's place, because GODDAMMIT!

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  180. Actually, I'm pretty sure that something happening makes it true.

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  181. That's right! Dolph Ziggler was a World Champion for almost an entire 20 minute promo segment!

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  182. He was the definition of paper champion.

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  183. It'd sound better if a confused JR said it.

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  184. No, the definition was Dean Douglas.

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