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EricGriffith feels Cena as a face could have worked, had this happened:
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ECW held the Hostile City Showdown, where Sabu/RVD took on The Dudleys in the main event. (1998) (Below is their FMW match from the same year)
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EricGriffith feels Cena as a face could have worked, had this happened:
On This Day...
ECW held the Hostile City Showdown, where Sabu/RVD took on The Dudleys in the main event. (1998) (Below is their FMW match from the same year)
Cancelling the IC Cup so Barrett can feud with Bo Dallas is asinine. Why can't there be more than one person challenging for a title at a given time? Isn't that what makes a division?
ReplyDeleteMy first comment of the day on BoD! I'm way more excited about this than I should be...
ReplyDeleteTNA going on the road could potentially be a good thing if it leads to them realizing that the Hardy groupies at the Impact Zone don't reflect the real audience.
ReplyDeleteI'm hoping Generico doesn't have to spend too much time in developmental.
ReplyDeleteIf they were intent on having Bo Dallas feud with Barrett couldn't they have rebooked the tournament so it would have focused on Bo Dallas. They could have created an angle in which he took Darren Young's spot (he didn't wrestle this week due to an injury sustained at the Rumble). Then they could have booked the tournament as a Cinderella story in which Dallas emerged triumphant and Barrett is forced to acknowledge the young upstart. If booked right it would have given the fans a chance to learn more about Dallas and decide whether to embrace him. Plus he would have interacted with other members of the roster.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think his brother Bray Wyatt is the one with the bigger upside (much more charisma, personality, a more versatile worker, and an amazing gimmick) but hey maybe there is more to Dallas than what we have seen so far. Personally I think they should give Dallas an overhaul before pushing him to the main roster. It worked for the Shield (trust me, they are better off with that gimmick then if they debuted with the ones they used in NXT and FCW) but Bo Dallas as smiling babyface may be harder to embrace. They should have placed him in some type of tag team with a more charismatic personality if they wanted to put him on the main roster.
They had
ReplyDeleteEVERYONE (even the smarks) sympathizing with Cena during that beat down
at the hands of Lesnar.
Uh, no. And no. And by the way, a big fat no.
Yeh, I remember hearing a lot about this Bo guy. Then I saw him and just thought "hmm... really?". Maybe 15-20 years ago, but the whole smily guy with long greasy hair thing died out long ago.
ReplyDeleteOnly speaking for myself here, but I could totally see what he meant because there were points in the match upon first viewing where I thought, "Wow, Brock is being a total dick and I actually feel bad for the ass beating Cena is taking right now." Then it all went to shit when he Super Cena'd up, but I understand where he's coming from.
ReplyDeleteI'm watching Raw in bits and pieces, just got to the Sandow/Sheamus match, did they announce the IC Title Cup Tournament on the show at all?
ReplyDeleteYeah, I don't recall anyone, even here, saying "boy I feel bad for that John Cena. Brock is such a bully!"
ReplyDeleteHey, hey, hey...Scotty Riggs is a blue chipper.
ReplyDeleteYes! Which is why it makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. Just jumping straight in to an IC Title feud, Barrett/Dallas. Seems really dumb to me. It was the perfect opportunity to build Dallas up. Why would people care about him right about now?
ReplyDeleteI'm down voting this because I don't want the push to go to your head...
ReplyDeleteBE A * BROCK!
ReplyDeleteI think that everyone would be helped by joining a tag team to start. And I agree. Why not just have Bo Dallas win the tournament. Wouldn't he seem like a more credible threat?
ReplyDeleteBo reminds me of his dad, Mike Rotundo, before IRS. Someone who is a decent worker but is not that charismatic. Watching old footage of the U.S. Express in the WWF, it was obvious that Barry Windham was the one full of charisma while Mike was along for the ride. The direction of the rest of Mike's first WWF stint bared this out where he was basically a JTTS before he left. Heck, Mike didn't really find the right persona until he became IRS. Bo needs something like an "IRS" to really standout. As it stands he looks and works like a southern wrassling refugee from 1988, not such a good thing in 2013 WWE.
ReplyDeleteI think they're going for the Twilight/Jeff Hardy crowd with him. In fact they should give him a Gangrel-esque gimmick imo.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with Wyatt is going to be WWE creative knowing how to write that kind of character. Look how fast they reveted Tensai back to just being Albert.
ReplyDeleteThat's not a bad idea but does he have the personality to pull it off?
ReplyDeletePshaw! Captain Mike Rotunda from the varsity club was awesome and a pretty good tv champ.
ReplyDeleteHeck the Twilight thing would work much better if they used his real name, Taylor.
ReplyDeleteTNA going on the road is a great move in the right direction although I would guess that Hardy will still be the most over guy regardless of city.
ReplyDeleteI liked the Varsity Club but you could argue that Kevin Sullivan as the evil taskmaster and Rick Steiner as the sympathetic toady are the ones who carried that gimmick.
ReplyDeleteMike was the work horse centerpiece and the tv champ. He played a great heel in that role and boy did I hate him. Then again, I was 13-14 years old and far from smart, so my perception could be off.
ReplyDeleteWait, wasn't Dallas going to be in the tournament?
ReplyDeleteHmm I don't know, he's defo got the look for it. Would be an interesting change from the "babyface rookie surprised by his own victories" route they seem to be going
ReplyDeleteIntercontinental Cup?
ReplyDeleteAIN'T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT
I'm hoping they don't totally eviscerate his gimmick. Change his name if you gotta (as long as it's not to something stupid), but if they're just gonna unmask him and make him a random guy than I don't see the point.
ReplyDeleteThe huge pop Cena got for the win speaks for itself. That win was the most the crowd has been behind him in the past few years... because Brock beat the shit out of him repeatedly.
ReplyDeleteI'd still like to know what that promo at the end was all about. Nothing ever came of it.
I'm not playing the role of jerk here, but I've never seen him wrestle... what's his gimmick other than he wears a mask?
ReplyDeleteHe's a white, ginger Mexican Luchador from Tijuana whos owns an orphanage in Mexico. Gimmick aside, he's one of the most exciting wrestlers to watch.
ReplyDeleteYea, that seemed odd. Kind of like a dark match promo and the PPV feed was just still running.
ReplyDeleteThat pretty well sums it up. Ole!
ReplyDeleteIt's too bad too, I set my DVR to record Main Event just to see the tournament unfold. Guess the WWE doesn't want to give their fans any reasons to watch a C-show. Well, they have solid matches, but meaningful solid matches.
ReplyDeleteThere's immaculate backstage comedy to craft, the writers can't waste their precious time with wrestling.
ReplyDeleteThey could honestly do this in one RAW if they wanted. It would be a great way to showcase the midcard talent.
ReplyDeleteAs I recall, the man was over while in the WWE as well.
ReplyDeleteNON-WRESTLING THREADJACK!!!:
ReplyDeleteWhen the Manti Te'o story broke we had a mini-discussion on whether an openly gay NFL player would be accepted in the locker room. I was shocked at the naivete shown by some of the posters here, who didn't seem to think a gay player would face much oppositon from teammates/opponents.
I present to you Chris Culliver, voice of the silent majority. And if you're wondering why more guys don't speak up, just look at the shit-storm he kicked up with his comments. That's why most guys don't bring this up in the media.
P.S. How much does it suck that the Teo story ended up with the lamest possible explaination (no secret gay love affair? no fame-hungry, Hesiman-coveting sociopath?)?
Yeah, I was disappointed too. I always love a good tournament a la KotR or the awesome 2005(?) RAW Gold Rush.
ReplyDeleteSurprisingly simple explanation. Although that Tuisassasopo dude brings up some interesting things.
ReplyDeleteOh Dixie...you just don't seem to get it. WWE doesn't regard TNA as anymore than a gnat on the windshield, so why even bring them up? Focus on what makes your company great, instead of why you're not as good as the other guy.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he was, actually. But either way, you get him in there somehow, give him some rub against some decent guys and let him rise up.
ReplyDeleteI'm kind of glad that the Te'o story ended like it did, I really didn't want to hate the guy, but hey at least someone was gay in this story(Tuisi-whatever the fuck).
ReplyDeleteAs for Culliver, being a 49ers fan and all so my opinion is probably moot but I really don't care to be honest. He's saying nothing new this is something that 98 percent of football feel and he had the balls to say it.
Anyone want any Deer Antler Spray? Anyone?
Great idea, man. Do all your main event promos as you need to, but the rest of the show is dedicated to the IC Title tourny. I really like it. At least it isn't pointless filler.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad that TNA is finally going to be touring more for 2013, although they may not be right there with WWE in terms of competition but this is very good start.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but that would make sense, so they're not doing it.
ReplyDeleteAs has been said, they should have started doing this years ago.
ReplyDeleteMarge: "It's an ending"
ReplyDeleteI'm all for getting over new talent. Key words 'getting over'. Jumping the gun just a tad here... And let me guess, if the crowd don't take a shining to him, it'll be his fault?
ReplyDeletebasicly he's an affectionate parody of luchadors. thus the name El generico, or tge Generic one
ReplyDeleteA lot has happened in those 3 years. So the reactions might not be the same.
ReplyDeleteNo question, but better late than never.
ReplyDeleteI think the percentage of Homophobic people in football may simply be towards the national average. There's plenty of gay people playing football and basketball and as far as I know, there will be plenty of people on the team who know about it. This guy just ran his mouth and then a lot of people swooped in. The Silent Majority is a myth. The last time I heard the phrase was this last election and they were all supposed to vote Romney in with a landslide victory. Lo and behold...
ReplyDeleteBut if he DOES get over, then he hasn't paid his dues which means that...I think he has to job to the Big Show, but only after winning the title from Wade.
ReplyDeleteHardy was practically booed out of the building at BFG. They have not had a televised show out of the Impact Zone since then.
ReplyDeleteThe gimmick is goofy and fun enough to get over but I figure he'll job as much as Ryder and be doing "comedy" bits with Santino.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is she has Hogan in her ear...
ReplyDeleteDixie carter, who gives a shit?
ReplyDeleteHad Cena lost and done an injury angle he would pretty solid as a face right now IMO. It would address two of the main issues the haters have with him: 1.) Supercena - he'd be vulnerable. 2.) He's overexposed - We can't miss you if you don't leave.
ReplyDeleteARS.
ReplyDeleteAndy R. Schyster.
Not necessarily. By having a home base and no major travel, they had something to offer wrestlers that WWE never would do. Also, it is considerably cheaper to run the Impact Zone than to tour. If TNA is tight on money as they say, it might not be good to overdo it.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I think they should do SOME touring. At least all the PPV's.
Yeah, probably. If they were smart they'd slot him in the Mysterio role, get all the kids begging their parents to buy them a Generico mask. We'll see, but I'm not too optimistic.
ReplyDeleteI'd have him make friends with Rey and turn Sin Cara out of jealousy.
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying old "Killer Kalender" tours, but do a 3 month on the road, three month at home style schedule would work? And PPVs should absolutely be in different venues.
ReplyDeleteAnd I understand the appeal for the wrestlers, but if they wanted an easy schedule, why even become a wrestler, ya know?
Goldrush 2005 has to rank up there with the best WWE tournaments ever.
ReplyDeletehttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7cum7sHcl1r6jhq9o1_1280.jpg
ReplyDeleteSOME touring can be fun in fact. And if they're still only doing one show a week, the wrestlers could go up there with family, see some sights, and actually enjoy the travel time.
ReplyDeleteBut I have a feeling he'd be treated like Poochie was to be treated...
ReplyDelete(Cena died on the way back to his home planet)
one upvote: I was saying boo-urns...
ReplyDeleteDown vote the above comment if aces & 8's makes your balls tingle!
ReplyDeleteOh it'd be fun to see him in Chicago, that is for sure, but there's plenty of places that he could do well and be cheered.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if that's the idea? Now that I think about it, the IC tournament really WOULD be wasted on Main Event.
ReplyDeleteI believe I read it will be once every 2 weeks, like the old Raw taping schedule.
ReplyDeleteTensai will be returing as A Train once again next week on raw. Full body hair and all
ReplyDeleteThat's what I thought at the time.
ReplyDeleteWeren't there rumors of Brock being furious afterwards?
What I am saying is that the easy home schedule is something they can use to lure talent. I heard it was a big part of why Christian went over for awhile.
ReplyDeleteThis angle would require him to beat several guys and not just Barrett. Maybe they didn't want to do that?
ReplyDeleteFor some strange reason he reminded me of Brian Christopher. Maybe his body language? I don't know. But, yeah, the smiley guy with greasy hair died when Rocky killed the gimmick dead.
ReplyDelete^ Exactly. Go back and look at the BoD thread and many people were making similar comments during the match. That hasn't happened with Cena in an eternity.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he'll get the Cena reaction where adults boo him and chicks and kids cheer him. Regardless, he's their most over guy and casual fans see him as legit since he's a WWE guy.
ReplyDeleteOur fearless leader did:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rspwfaq.net/2012/04/more-on-cena-v-lesnar.html
While the sentiment was far from unanimous there were a lot of people in the comments in the Extreme Rules 2012 thread that felt the same way.
It lured some talent over and...still got them nowhere on buy rates and ratings. They have a good product now, for the most part, bringing it to the people is what they need not luring more ex-WWE guys.
ReplyDeleteLook downthread. I provided a link.
ReplyDeleteIn that thread, the rant, and the live thread, there is only like 2 people who share that view. Out of hundreds of posts.
ReplyDeleteSo he'll be wearing a mask like Kane, or a bodysuit like Giant Gonzales?
ReplyDeleteYou can't tell stories through tournaments.
ReplyDelete- Said nobody who ever saw KOTR 94 or Deadly Game (best booked tournament ever?)
"Until his hair has grown back completely, the role of "Albert" will be played by a North American Grizzly Bear"
ReplyDelete-411.com
Even after IRS, too. Then, it was all about the character. He was just the most boring heel in the ring. The only time he ever did it for me in the ring was during the Varsity Club days.
ReplyDeleteThat'd be great! We haven't had vampires since....well let's see. Edge and Christian and Gangrel of course (When they were the Brood)...Batista when he was in OVW I think. The guy who was Mordecai, but then became a vampire in ECW. (Kevin Thorne and his fly ass goth cootchie). And let us not forget Vampiro (a classic) of course. Have I left anyone out?
ReplyDeleteTensai was getting 'Albert' chants, so they changed him back to A-Train. I kind of wish some smart ass fans would then start chanting for Tensai, just to give Vince a massive coronary.
ReplyDeleteHe'll become Conquistador Tres.
ReplyDeleteThat guy who freaked out about Rock beating Punk at The Rumble strikes again. I think he's just a gimmick now.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORaBMF4TscM
I'm glad you noted a source. I originally thought that that was a joke.
ReplyDeleteCan't make that sort of stuff up, man.
ReplyDeleteOnly in wrestling.
Nobody's threadjacked this yet for the Bret video linked in the WON update?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xSNJX1aBDSw
Makes some good points, but too harsh in general.
ReplyDeleteHunter's not nearly the legend that he thinks he is, but he's definitely had more than zero great matches.
THREADJACK.
ReplyDeleteTNA Edition.
Tables match for Bully Ray?!
I can agree with all that. Although there is hyperbole in there. Also, I kinda got the impression that Bret was talking about pre Screwjob HHH and post whenever Bret was on good terms with WWE again. Seems like he missed a ton of stuff from like 2000-2005 or whenever because he wasn't watching.
ReplyDeleteLet it never be said that Bret isn't a mark for himself.
ReplyDeleteI remember the days when winning a secondary title like the IC title meant u was getting a push. Not like today when it means ur becoming a non title match jobber
ReplyDeleteVelvet sky with a Pedigree!
ReplyDeleteAlso it would be a hilarious trend if TNA gave all the knockouts the WWE finishers.
ReplyDeleteI dunno, 411.com is usually pretty spot on.
ReplyDeleteThe other day I wanted to know the phone number for my local abottoire, and there it was.
And how!
ReplyDeleteI think Jim Cornette got it right, HHH is the guy who works WITH the top guy. He's a guy you can count on to rise to the occasion, but he cannot carry a match by itself.
ReplyDeleteThat originally video was great... Loved the intensity in the kicking of the DVDs
ReplyDeleteSo far Bo Dallas is just a guy I will dislike for no reason haha... Everyone has those guys they just don't like. Plus he looks like the bad guy in kindergarden cop
ReplyDeleteHes 100% back tracked on that though
ReplyDeleteMy favorite was him chanting "Rocky rocky" while tearing the DVD cover in half. Priceless.
ReplyDeleteAfter seeing that there were tens of thousands of visitors to his other videos, I now feel dumber. This guy's just someone who believes he stars in his own reality show. Thought we had our heir apparent to the "It's still real to me" guy for a second.
ReplyDeleteAfter the interview, Bret had sex with a waitress, who confided in him that he was always her favorite wrestler and his opinions on pretty much everything are exactly right.
ReplyDeleteYeah still hilarious though. His girlfriend recorded him freaking out over the Rock/Punk later too. Funny shit
ReplyDeleteThat couldn't have been his girlfriend, that was probably his little sister who thinks her older brother is a loser.
ReplyDeleteBret's right.
ReplyDeleteTriple H has had a great matches, but he's had them with people already capable of having them. Put him in there with someone that needs to be carried, and you're in for a shit show.
No I watched another video where they kissed so I pray to which ever deity will hear me that they are not bro/sis
ReplyDeleteIt was a good work. He totally "gets" the smark rage and it was completely believable if he hadn't had a ton of other videos.
ReplyDeleteBest bit was licking the DVD, that's the crazy shit someone flipping out would do.
The GTA video is just so good because he actually cries. Real tears.
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