Better solution would be to turn him heel, have him steal AJ from Dolph Ziggler, and play him up as the social media-themed heel. Tormenting Cena and Dolph with photos of their respective gal pal with him, humiliating viral videos mocking Cena and Dolph, and basically making their lives hell in terms of turning Zack into an internet troll type uber villain, with AJ as his cliched hot but psycho girlfriend. Think Anonymous or Pre-Shit Reddit Says Infection Something Awful.
Plus, I'm sure Cena would be jump at the angle, it since it means he can bitch and moan about the internet hating him every week while allowing Zack new material to work with for his internet stuff in terms of allowing him to do his show from the POV of a heel. And god knows it would be less humiliating than being someone who gets the shit kicked out of him while Cena yawns and makes out with his crush.
(Oh and Langston and Ryder can also feud with Kane and Bryan, since Ryder has unfinished business with Kane)
Heel turn wouldn't be a bad idea, but I have no faith they'll do anything interesting with it. It'll be as generic as they come, and he'll stay buried as a result. And they don't HAVE to turn him, it's not a natural progression at all. WE WANTED TO CHEER HIM, YOU STUPID DELUDED FUCKS.
His last sliver of "over-ness" is that he sells sunglasses and headbands on occasion. A heel turn could be great but he'd be shuttled out for good months later imo.
Zack Ryder is living proof that PPV doesnt matter anymore.
Look at Zach. He has 4 pieces of merch
-shirt
-foam hand
-glasses
-headband/hair combo (ill count as one)
Im gonna go out on a limb that none of those items are less than 10 bucks. He has on 40 bucks (at least) worth of merch and it sells... It probably doesnt sell like it was when he was hot, but he sells enough to keep getting merch.
he has the price of a ppv, with a substantial amount of re-wear value. (sans the hair /hand gimmick ) as opposed to a ppv that's more than likely gonna be unfavorable... at the least under promoted, rushed and ultimately forgettable.
if im wwe, and i see the ppv going down and the merch numbers going up, id put my energies into merch... and focus on the big shows. Wrestlemania.
zach ryder is a jobber with 4 pcs of merch. think about cena/mysterio or hhh/dx and the amounts they had... or the hardyz in their heyday.
Winning the U.S. title for a week is not getting a pay off. I hope he doesn't renew his contract and goes and learns how to work in Japan and comes back in a year or two. He could make a ton of money doing his shtick in Japan I think.
I actually love this idea. Jericho already experimented with a troll character but Ryder would do that writ large and actually use the internet to his advantage. It's an original idea for a character and (since most of the fanbase hates WWE's social media nonsense anyway) it'll definitely get over as heelish.
Of course, Ryder's turn probably just means that now he'll do two-minute jobs to Kofi and Truth rather than to Barrett or Cesaro....that is, if Ryder gets on TV at all.
Absolutely. The guy busted his ass to get over, but because he wasn't HHH/Vince's creation, he did not get pushed. I'm not saying the guy should have headlined PPVs, but he could have been fantastic for the mid-card.
Stick him in the Guy Fawkes mask that Anonymous uses, do a shtick where he's "hacking" into wrestlers personal details and it's all a big "who is doing this?" and then reveal it's Ryder...
I'm drawing on a blank on it, but within WWE canon were they even technically dating? It seemed like an implied crush on Ryder's end and Eve was completely obvlious. Defending Cena feels weird......
Better solution would be to turn him heel, have him steal AJ from Dolph Ziggler, and play him up as the social media-themed heel. Tormenting Cena and Dolph with photos of their respective gal pal with him, humiliating viral videos mocking Cena and Dolph, and basically making their lives hell in terms of turning Zack into an internet troll type uber villain, with AJ as his cliched hot but psycho girlfriend. Think Anonymous or Pre-Shit Reddit Says Infection Something Awful.
ReplyDeletePlus, I'm sure Cena would be jump at the angle, it since it means he can bitch and moan about the internet hating him every week while allowing Zack new material to work with for his internet stuff in terms of allowing him to do his show from the POV of a heel. And god knows it would be less humiliating than being someone who gets the shit kicked out of him while Cena yawns and makes out with his crush.
(Oh and Langston and Ryder can also feud with Kane and Bryan, since Ryder has unfinished business with Kane)
Zack Ryder as evil TMZ. That's...not bad.
ReplyDeleteDid I just get Baked?
Well, it was 4/20.
ReplyDeleteEven a broken clock is right twice a day, and Jesse just spun some pretty decent booking
ReplyDelete...wow
ReplyDeleteZack couldn't even act scared of Kane... and you want him to have a complex angle?
ReplyDeleteJesus for a second I thought it was the return of Larry Zbyszko. Sheer terror.
ReplyDeleteYep. Hitler's birthday.
ReplyDeleteJust give it up, Zack. Just try and make it on Jersey Shore.
ReplyDeleteThe main problem with this is that it involves Zack Ryder, and Zack Ryder sucks.
ReplyDeleteWhen jobbers turn heel.
ReplyDeleteTUNE INTO NITRO TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
In all seriousness, he should become the Raven of this era. It could be decent or a complete disaster.
ReplyDeleteMr. Ryder was quoted as saying, "I'd love to work with Cena again. It was pretty amazing the last time."
ReplyDeleteDidn't Ryder get his revenge on Kane already on one of those Smackdown battle royales?
ReplyDeleteAnd that's the end of that chapter *flicks scarf*
ReplyDeleteZack Ryder is the best example of how WWE doesn't know how to book or "write" for the mid card anymore.
ReplyDeleteHeel turn wouldn't be a bad idea, but I have no faith they'll do anything interesting with it. It'll be as generic as they come, and he'll stay buried as a result. And they don't HAVE to turn him, it's not a natural progression at all. WE WANTED TO CHEER HIM, YOU STUPID DELUDED FUCKS.
ReplyDeleteHis last sliver of "over-ness" is that he sells sunglasses and headbands on occasion. A heel turn could be great but he'd be shuttled out for good months later imo.
ReplyDeleteZack Ryder is living proof that PPV doesnt matter anymore.
ReplyDeleteLook at Zach. He has 4 pieces of merch
-shirt
-foam hand
-glasses
-headband/hair combo (ill count as one)
Im gonna go out on a limb that none of those items are less than 10 bucks. He has on 40 bucks (at least) worth of merch and it sells... It probably doesnt sell like it was when he was hot, but he sells enough to keep getting merch.
he has the price of a ppv, with a substantial amount of re-wear value. (sans the hair /hand gimmick ) as opposed to a ppv that's more than likely gonna be unfavorable... at the least under promoted, rushed and ultimately forgettable.
if im wwe, and i see the ppv going down and the merch numbers going up, id put my energies into merch... and focus on the big shows. Wrestlemania.
zach ryder is a jobber with 4 pcs of merch. think about cena/mysterio or hhh/dx and the amounts they had... or the hardyz in their heyday.
i wouldnt care about ppv either.
"The human game of chess."
ReplyDeleteHe won the US title
ReplyDeleteCena can't sell a loss and he's WWE.
ReplyDeleteThis is a cool idea that if you pitched it to Vince he'd squash it in record time. They are determined to bury this guy forever.
ReplyDeleteUh oh, spaghetti-o!
ReplyDeleteThis is pretty damn good.
ReplyDeleteWinning the U.S. title for a week is not getting a pay off. I hope he doesn't renew his contract and goes and learns how to work in Japan and comes back in a year or two. He could make a ton of money doing his shtick in Japan I think.
ReplyDeleteAnd he sees roughly 0% of those sales.
ReplyDeleteCena/Ryder headlining a PPV would make zero dollars, but I'd watch, dammit!
ReplyDeleteShame Ryback is already running with the angle tailor made for Zack.
ReplyDeleteNo he can't.
ReplyDeleteZack actually started his shtick almost a year before the Jersey Shore came out.
ReplyDeleteBeing sloppy and dangerous in the ring?
ReplyDeleteDoes he not? I always thought that was the deal with merch sales? Or did they curtail that after Austin made enough money to quit whenever he wanted?
ReplyDeleteBeing friends with Cena puts you in Cena's shadow angle.
ReplyDeleteI'm too lazy to check...was this on the WWE Channel or Zach's personal one?
ReplyDeleteI actually love this idea. Jericho already experimented with a troll character but Ryder would do that writ large and actually use the internet to his advantage. It's an original idea for a character and (since most of the fanbase hates WWE's social media nonsense anyway) it'll definitely get over as heelish.
ReplyDeleteOf course, Ryder's turn probably just means that now he'll do two-minute jobs to Kofi and Truth rather than to Barrett or Cesaro....that is, if Ryder gets on TV at all.
I think the WWE channel is no more.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely. The guy busted his ass to get over, but because he wasn't HHH/Vince's creation, he did not get pushed. I'm not saying the guy should have headlined PPVs, but he could have been fantastic for the mid-card.
ReplyDelete...the more you know.
ReplyDeleteStick him in the Guy Fawkes mask that Anonymous uses, do a shtick where he's "hacking" into wrestlers personal details and it's all a big "who is doing this?" and then reveal it's Ryder...
ReplyDeleteWHY DIDN'T YOU ROLL THIS OUT LIKE LAST JANUARY?!
ReplyDeleteI'm drawing on a blank on it, but within WWE canon were they even technically dating? It seemed like an implied crush on Ryder's end and Eve was completely obvlious.
ReplyDeleteDefending Cena feels weird......