Are there any flag matches involving a foreign wrestler vs. an American wrestler that the American wrestler LOST?
Do you know of any flag matches involving non-American wrestlers?
es, the Hart Foundation KICKED AMERICAN ASS in 1997 and waved their flag the only time that WWE came to the Maritimes for RAW. I surmise that they never came back because of the humiliation suffered and then engineered the deaths of Bulldog and Owen as a long-term revenge plan. Bret was lucky, he escaped with only the stroke. Neidhart suffered the most given that he's still married to Ellie.
Is America the only country where wrestling companies do angles based on nationalism? Do Canadian, Mexican or Japanese companies ever do angles where evil Americans come in and threaten their way of life?
ReplyDeleteRikidozan became the big star he did because he was fighting for Japanese pride against the forces of boorish American imperialism (this was in the 50s...so perhaps you can understand why that angle worked).
ReplyDeleteOh, and AAA has the Foreign Legion which while lead by Konan consists/consisted of a bunch of American talent like Double J, Mickie James, Abyss...it was part of the AAA/TNA talent exchange.
The Amazing French Canadians won a flag match in WCW against Harlem Heat I think.
ReplyDeleteLAX (Hernandez, Homicide and Konnan) won one for Mexico in TNA. Don't remember their opponents, though.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Art Barr and Eddie Guerrero portray themselves as Anerican pricks when they were a tag team in Mexico?
ReplyDeleteDamn dirty Canucks holding down us poor, innocent 'Muricans. FOR SHAME!
ReplyDeleteYou forgot about Pillman. They got him too.
ReplyDeleteHockey Canada's been doing the evil foreigner angle for decades now.
ReplyDeleteUmmmmmm we all know that it was Austin who plotted the conspiracy to kill Owen!
ReplyDeleteKonnan isn't Mexican either. He's Cuban-American.
ReplyDeleteThere was also a live Raw and Smackdown taping in the Maritimes (Halifax) on May 5-6, 2003. Austin did the beer bash on Raw and Hogan was under a mask as Mr. America on Smackdown. I had lower bowl seats for Raw and floor seats for Smackdown.
ReplyDeleteThe best part about Rikidozan is that he was Korean.
ReplyDeleteBig Daddy waved the Union Jack, embarrassingly.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I understand, Manny Fernandez cut some pretty insane promos in Puerto Rico where he'd compare the locals to dogs and play up his Mexican heritage, working off the racial enmity between Mexicans and Boricuas.
ReplyDeleteCanadians and Mexicans are Americans -- Just saying...
ReplyDeleteI think the question meant in the US did any US team every lose a flag match? The aforementioned one was not within our great borders.
ReplyDeleteI was just about to post that. I distinctly remember that episode of RAW had a Triple H/Kevin Nash beatdown that turned into a chase segment that dragged on for what felt like forever.
ReplyDeleteWas the roster so thin they couldn't even use a few Sunday Night Heat guys? At least they would have done a better job of filling time than Hunter slowly beating up Nash followed by Nash slowly going after Hunter in the back.
That was the entire basis of Japanese wrestling from its inception in the early 1950's up until about 1983.
ReplyDeleteLos Gringos Locos, yes. Also Ken Timbs as El Fabuloso Blondy before that, as well as several "Migra" gimmicks.
ReplyDeleteI didn't say that Konnan was Mexican. But he's a Mexican star and started in Mexican wrestling companies.
ReplyDeleteYeah I know - I was just commenting on why Konnan could have fit in well with a 'foreign invader' gimmick in Mexico. I wasn't trying to be critical.
ReplyDeleteAh, misunderstood. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteI dunno if evil foreigner was part of his gimmick from the beginning. Maybe it was like Bret Hart.
I think he was of Korean descent, but Japanese birth.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's kinda funny that they're a minority in Japan which faces incredible discrimination and racism. It'd be like if Lou Thesz was black.
"Neidhart suffered the most given that he's still married to Ellie."
ReplyDeleteWell to be fair, Jim isn't looking so good these days either. How did Natalya come out of that union?