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QOTD 32: I bent my Wookie

Hola Otters, today we're talking about the most iconic animated television show of all time. Family Guy.

Nah I'm joking. We're talking about the Flintstones.

Nah I'm joking. We're talking about Home Movies.

Nah I'm joking. We're talking about The Simpsons.

What's your favorite Simpsons Episode? What's your favorite Simpsons Quote? What's your favorite Simpsons trivia?  E-mail me a clip and I'll post it below

It an (unlikely to succeed) attempt to be brief, I'll put it simply. We are the Simpsons generation. If you are of a certain age, hovering somewhere between the ages of, say, 23-37, The Simpsons ARE a big part of your life, whether or not you've noticed it. It's memes and catchphrases and characters are simply omnipresent. "D'oh", "Eat My Shorts", "Hey Everybody!" "Excelllenttt" and about fifty-seven other things have been pulled from The Simpsons and entered our lexicon like a virus, a yellow-skinned laughter virus.

I remember being 8ish years old, home on Halloween because some prisoners escaped from the local prison, and watching the Halloween special where Homer and Mr. Burns get their heads connected on the same body. I remember gaining a fascination for space and science fiction through that time Homer went into space and ate potato chips.

I'm not kidding when I say a young MeekinOnMovies heard the names Paul McCartney, Bob Hope, Albert Brooks, Howard Hughes, Barry White, and countless others through The Simpsons first. I had no clue the musical number from a Fish Called Selma was based on Amadeus. (Before Jobber calls me out, I was 10 at the time).


But more importantly than that, whether intentionally or not, The Simpsons manages to be about us. We all have a little Homer, a little Moe, a litte Bart, a little Lisa, a little Ralph, a little Milhouse in us, and probably know countless Marges, Flanders, Kent Brockmans, and Lenny and Carls. We want to be tough but aren't, want to be cool but aren't, want to be smart, but aren't.

How many of us has felt like Ralph, fawning after the girl we're perhaps too naive (nieve?) to realize won't want us back, only to take refuge in their pity. How many of us have been like Homer, confounded by a rapidly changing world, ultimately deciding to ignore whatever the changing tide is in favor of chips, beer, and football? How many of us define a Muppet as not quite a mop, and not quite a puppet? How many of us had a tear in our eye when Bart stole that video-game he really really wanted from the Big Box store, only to be shunned from his Family, allowing him to finally realize the true meaning of Christmas? 

That's actually my favorite episode, for the record. I was 9 at the time, and with Mortal Kombat mania running wild, but I had a sneaking suspicion I would not be receiving that game for Christmas, and was kinda bummed about it, like any 9 year old boy thirsty for virtual blood would be. That was really the first time a piece of media spoke DIRECTLY to me on a personal level, allowing me to realize that regardless of what I 'got' for Christmas, every present came with love. Also I got some kick-ass Thunder Zords and Legos I still have somewhere, so I can't complain.

That said, with a show that's been on so long, naturally the question of "It's not as good as it used to be" creeps up, which is tricky. The syndicated episodes are so burned into our skull, that anything new-ish isn't going resonate the same way. That said, new episodes aren't half bad either, as the writers they have on-board actually grew up watching the show, and have it, you guessed it, ingrained in their skull. I'm inviting my buddy David, who is a Simpsons historian (amateur) to the thread to provide some neat tid-bits and trivia.

Anyway, The Simpsons taught us about addiction, love, infidelity, temptation, and loss. It taught us the difference between a joke about race, and a racist joke. It gave us Mr. Smithers, who is the first gay character I can remember, though surely there were ones before him. Like "The Wire" It ultimately communicates / communicated that regardless of what kind of asshole you are, you're still a person. Can you name one Simpsons character who isn't sympathetic at all?

Neither can I.


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Blog Otter Award: Eric Griffith for posting an awesome video by a lawyer about the legal process. I watched the whole damn thing.

(Worth nothing: This is in the context of if you're suspected of a crime, obviously if something bad happens, use your best judgement when assisting Police Officers)


1. So the take-away from the cops conversation yesterday is that I am a lucky motherfucker. I've never had a 'bad' run-in with cops, and never see them act in ways that would be considered uncouth. I recognize that isn't everyone, and that just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Great convo folks!

2. Supplementary Simpsons Material:

The Top 11 Simpsons Episodes of All Time. I generally dislike the Nostalgia Critic's shtick, but this little retrospective isn't half-bad, and communicates a little better the things I'm trying to say about the show.

Inside The Actors Studio with the cast of The Simpsons - This is cool, but ultimately you realize that the cast are just the voices, and not writers.

John Swartzwelder is probably the 'best' Simpsons writer, and you can point to any of his written episodes and get a near classic almost every time. That link points you to his written episodes.

Couch Gags!




3. I feel "Bob's Burgers" has kind of nailed down that "Simpsons" vibe of being just-this-hair past realistic in terms of story and plotting. That's a great show.

Comments

  1. Is that the one with the tiny coffin?

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  2. I've been watching the Simpsons since the first full-length episode broadcast (it wasn't til years later I heard of the Tracy Ullman shorts), and don't plan on stopping, but my only real gripe is how we went from a down to earth, realistic setting for the show, to another cartoon. The one example I use most is there was an episode about 4-5 years ago where there's a gag with Mr. Burns being rung through a fountain in a manner that belonged in the Looney Tunes universe. We went from "Homer might cheat on his wife" to "Looney Tunes, except not funny."

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  3. I agree to an extent. I think some of the over-the-top stuff can be okay if done right. I.E don't try and make a serious point or have a message if you're going for the slapstick silly stuff.

    Really the best 'slapstick' one is probably the one where Homer gets super fat. It was something you could ONLY do in a cartoon, but was realistic enough to where you could still buy the 'reality' of the situation.

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  4. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    paul meekin... you have been NPP'ed.

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  5. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 12, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    lol... yes

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  6. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    your av was mocked

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  7. Ha, I posted a video on my Youtube years ago, and they found it, so I made the photo they cribbed from it my avatar on my own.

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  8. I dont watch the Simpsons. I think I just outgrew the humor (Adam Sandler syndrome) in like junior high. Tons of people seem to still like so Im probably in the minority.

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  9. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    im just saying, you asked if they said anything about you, and you got your wish.


    Life. Fulfilled.

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  10. Ha, I don't know if I'm fulfilled, but I appreciate the attention and playful ribbing.

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  11. Bob's Burgers deserves some love, so kudos there.

    As far as the Simpsons, I will watch the syndicated airings, but almost never bother with the first run episodes on Sundays.

    Their longevity is becoming a disadvantage - they are running out of clever ideas, IMO.

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  12. Ehhh I don't think they are. A lot of the newer stuff is pretty good.

    A little inside baseball: Writing is generational. Folks who wrote the first seasons of The Simpsons were probably some of the first TV writers who grew up watching TV sitcoms. I Love Lucy, Mary Tyler Moore, All in the Family, and countless other shows influenced them the same way The Simpsons influenced us.

    As those writers got burnt out or moved onto other projects, you suddenly had people who weren't familiar with what "The Simpsons" was all about, writing for the show, and that's when you get into the icky "Cartoon" "Principal Skinner isn't really Principal Skinner" stuff in the early 2000s.

    Now we've kind come full circle, as someone who started watching the Simpsons on day one is old enough to be writing TV, and have had those characters and tropes and catch-phrases ingrained in their skull, and can happily subvert those characters.

    Actually I think Scott made a point that Springfield is so full of characters waiting to be mined, and I think we're seeing that happen *now*.

    It's not like I watch EVERY new Episode of the Simpsons, but I make a point to check up on it, and you'd be surprised how much of it is still funny, still touching, and really not that bad.

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  13. I enjoyed the Gorgeous Godfrey episode, if that counts for anything. Mainly for the scene where they show up in "I love my gay grandpa" shirts. And the Craig's list post to hook him up.

    No fatties.

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  14. Hahaha. I haven't seen that one. I'm trying to find an episode where Lisa says "It's okay mom, I can support anything you do, I'm a feminist" and my google-fu is failing me.

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  15. Sir, you are *Missing Out*. It's actually really good and really intelligent, and nothing like Sander's brand of comedy - at all. If anything It's probably more in line with folks like Seth Meyers or David Spade - kind of sardonic but well-meaning, if that makes sense. Do a "Top 100" episodes search, seek out any of those, and have it.

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  16. Yea, I hear you. I meant the Sandler thing more as a comparison to humor Ive really outgrown as opposed to thr type of actual humor.

    Ive watched a couple the fast few years and it just doesnt do it for me. Stuff like Family Guy, South Park, and American Dad have just surpassed it and made it look second tier, IMO.

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  17. I cut an entire paragraph about how The Simpsons relate to Family Guy and American Dad above. I wish I saved it.

    My point was those shows sacrifice narrative and heart for gags, which is fine, but they also have no 'soul' if that makes sense. They're disposable characters who are there for gags and gags only, which, again, is fine, I like lots of disposable things.

    The Simpsons definitely tries to be 'more' than that, for better or worse.

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  18. Im with you on the "sacrafice narrative and heart for gag", and maybe thats why I like them...if I turn on something like that I typically want to shut my brain off and just veg out.

    I got the time so might give Simpsons a shot. Any episode suggestions?

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  19. The Old Man and the Lisa.

    Also the COOL thing about Family Guy and American Dad is that when they gag on something, they NAIL it. If they parody Star Trek, characters have all the right gear, sit in the right place, and talk like they would talk.

    If they gag Scooby Doo, the van looks right, the characters look right, and everyone is "in character" even for a 3 second bit. It's authentic so it feels like you're laughing 'with them' not 'at them'

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  20. This show was appointment viewing for me for the first decade but I hardly watch it at all any more in reruns or the new eps.

    My first exposure was the Simpsons Roasting episode which I got on a VHS cassette and watched literally every single day, sometimes more than once, for about a year. We didn't have cable so I didn't see the first run stuff until season 2.

    There's a million fantastic episodes, most of which I'll forget. But a few faves were Whacking Day, Marge vs the Monorail, Cape Feare, and Homer the Great. I know, I'm really pushing the envelope with those picks.

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  21. And Home Movies was pretty good, I liked that show.
    Bob's Burgers is good too, if I watch any animation these days that's it.

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  22. Fun fact: Kang and Kodos are an homage to two classic Star Trek episodes, the Conscience of the King and Errand of Mercy.

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  23. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    1. Last Exit To Springfield, though Marge Be Not Proud is probably in my top 5 as well. It's pretty melancholy when Marge shuts out Bart. Plus, some of my fav Simpsons quotes are in there: "Buy me Bonestorm or go to hell!" "You have selected No."


    2. DENNAL PLAN! LISA NEEDS BRACES! DENNAL PLAN! LISA NEEDS BRACES! DENNAL PLAN! LISA NEEDS BRACES!...


    3. Speaking of Marge Be Not Proud, I read that Lawrence Tierney was a Brando-level gigantic pain in the ass to work with when doing his part as the store guard who busts Bart.

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  24. That first lawyer in the video is my public speaking role model. Great "promo" skills.

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  25. I'm not a big Simpsons fan, but I do have a connection to them.


    My uncle is standup comedian and former SNL cast member (for one season) Rich Hall. He was at least the partial inspiration for Moe from the Simpsons.

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  26. Does your uncle ever do his David Byrne?

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  27. Home Movies is a pretty epic show, for anyone that never got to see it

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  28. Cool! I saw him do standup back in college.

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  29. I love just randomly shouting out "Lisa needs braces" and getting a "Dental plan!" shout back in my household.

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  30. I do this all the time, just random quotes. Especially "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand"

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  31. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryOctober 12, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Favorite Episode: either The Springfield Connection, You Only Move Twice, Homer Vs. the 18th Amendment, or the one where Homer trips balls.

    Favorite quote: This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqfxmWbelcQ . Unfortunately they leave out the next scene, where Marge is unpacking the bag and says to Homer "Whatever you have planned for tonight, count me out."

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  32. No shit. I'm am a huge SNL fan and have the episodes for the season he was on (84-85, the year with Billy Crystal, Martin Short, Christopher Guest) and enjoyed his pieces on weekend update

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  33. I was at a bar once fairly drunk. I must of looked tired or something because a woman came up to me and mentioned that.

    "Maybe you should go and get some sleep."
    "Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me."

    She got the reference and we ended up having sex 3 times the next time we met.

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  34. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Hmmm...I wonder what "Tramampoline!" would get you.

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  35. With eachother?

    Score! I have to tell the "You Don't Know Jack" got me laid story sometime.

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  36. Expendables 2, Arnold Schwarzenegger...oh wait...

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  37. I was lucky. I always drop the more obscure references around women and the usually laugh, albeit awkwardly.

    I was in a relationship once that was going south. Sometimes she would drone on about inane stuff so in order to kill the one sided conversation, I just kept saying "Sounds interesting" after every sentence.

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  38. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 12, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    I lump those people in with the ones that urinate outdoors.

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  39. Hey! Hey! If you haven't peed in the woods you haven't lived sir. YOU HAVEN'T LIVED

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  40. Rats. how long did Caliber do this for? I'm (without much effort) attempting to avoid repeats.

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  41. I remember being seven and the first episode playing sometime around Christmas. It was one of the first things I watched on my new 12 (maybe 14) inch TV in my room.

    Although when I was eight years old, my mom was going on about something I did wrong, don't even remember what it was. But I remember what I did wrong next. While my mom was in mid sentence I said "Mom, don't have a cow"! Holy shit, the look on her face, I was already in trouble but now I just dug a pretty deep grave. I wasn't allowed to watch The Simpsons for the next year. I think I missed the first run of the entire third season.

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  42. And you haven't TRUELY LIVED till you've wrote your name in the snow with your pee. I was so proud seeing my name, in cursive, in the snow. I was 23.

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  43. He did it for like four months or so maybe. While you've had a couple of repeats for the most part it's been all original topics. Gotta say you're doing a great job with the QOTDs, you really mix up the topics so nothing gets stagnant. Idea for one, guilty pleasures, we all have em.

    Spoilers: mines Glee, big Glee fan.

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  44. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 12, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Thanks for contributing to global warming!

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  45. I always run out around the cross in "A"

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  46. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Oh yeah, my parents barred me from watching Simpsons until I was 14ish (around S10), so I had to either sneak it in or catch up with it via random episodes back when it was syndicated like crazy and on three times a day.

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  47. Well you gotta be fast and conserve a little, hold back, don't go full force, cup the balls, work the shaft....wait what we're we talking about again?

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  48. Watching the DVD's I find Simpsons starts its decline after the second part of Who Shot Mrs. Burns?
    If the writers can honestly do an episode looking at the history of Moes's bar rag, then surely everything that can be done with the Simpsons has been done.

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  49. "It smells funny in there"

    "No it doesn't"

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  50. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Butthurt downvoters have no sense of humor.

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  51. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    You forgot "swallow the gravy".

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  52. I got this with Beavis and Butthead.

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  53. The second part had so many jokes in succession that it was the peak, for me at least. A good example is Wiggum hoping that all suspects will be as fun as Tito cutting to Skinner slowly and deliberately think leading to the flashback of him accidently putting his mothers make up, leading to Chalmers catching him leading to Skinner confirming Chalmers can say Skinner wasn't near the shooting ending with tge great "but anything else he tells you is a filthy lie"

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  54. Otissue Lee Crenshaw is your Uncle :-D

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  55. Stay on target....stay on targetttt

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  56. Tell that to the cows.

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  57. Probably you only move twice. But lots to choose from from the first 10 years.
    ...It's scary, I've probably missed more episodes now than have seen. Those early years had an OCD like replay-ability for me. Not so much on the ones I've seen since then

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  58. "I'm intrigued, yet suspicious" is my most often quoted phrase during everyday conversations.

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  59. That is THE most heart-breaking episode. Homer finally gets everything he could ever want, but gives it up for his family. The older I get the more I respect that lovable fiction lug.

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  60. Everything about that segment in that episode is worth repeating.

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  61. Just want to throw it out there... I appreciate the Home Movies acknowledgement. Of course, H Jon Benjamin and Brendon Small went on to do other projects that became much more popular, but Home Movies was absolutely charming and clever in its own way

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  62. squiggle vision!

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  63. Lionel Hutz: "Uh oh. We've drawn Judge Snyder."
    Marge: "Is that bad?"
    LH: "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog."
    M: "You did?"
    LH: "Well, actually, replace the word 'kinda' with the word 'repeatedly'...and the word 'dog' with 'son'."

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  64. Basically, the first seven to ten or so Treehouse of Horrors could be on my TV and you'd never hear a complaint from me. Those episodes are what made me fall in love with that show. One of my earliest memories is from the 1996 episode because I watched it after a night of trick or treating when my parents made a stop off at my grandfather's house. It's one of those perfect childhood memories.


    That said, I've come back around to the show's first ten seasons recently. That combination of comedy and serious issues is something I don't think anybody else has ever touched. The writing is just so smart. The Lisa depression episode from the first season still hits me hard every time I watch it, as does the episode where Bleeding Gums dies. That's the type of writing I wish more shows would attempt. It's why only a few comedies like Moral Orel have even registered for me since. But favorite episode? Anything from those first ten seasons.

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  65. That's another quote, yes.

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  66. I'd say give Scrubs a shot if you're looking for a good combination of serious/silly. Obviously they're really different styles, but they still manage to make you laugh / cry within moments of eachother!

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  67. Not enough upvotes to give!

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  68. Machine: "What about those clowns in Congress? What a bunch of clowns."
    Radio guy: "How does it keep up with the news like that?"


    I've been playing that clip all through the shutdown. Brilliant.


    Also love, "Ten thousand dollars? We'll be millionaires!"

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  69. "After the break, we're gonna meet a man who's been hiccupping for last 36 years."
    "Hiccup, kill me. Hiccup, kill me. Hiccup, kill me..."

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