Not sure how many of you have seen the underrated classic "The Huddsucker Proxy" but boy is that movie a treat. The less you know about it, the better. Don't watch a trailer, don't read about it, just watch it.
A tagline from that movie is "Ya know, for Kids!" and it got me thinking about the stuff we watch that, as mostly well-adjusted adults, is probably a big below our age range.
What 'kid' shows do you enjoy, or think hold up to viewings as an adult?
The correct answer to this question is "The Animaniacs". Simply classic stuff that's even better the older you are. While I still think Chicken Boo is one of the dumbest thing in the history of dumb things, the rest of the show is great. The songs are catchy and the jokes are still funnier, and in fact funnier now that you can pick up on the number of subtle Hollywood references throughout the show's run.
"Fairly Odd Parents" is a good one, and still something I'll click on if it's on and I'm trying to do something else. Similarly ribald and subversive, it's a show that's more 'for all ages' versus for only children.
"iCarly" ain't half bad, either, kind of capturing a zany 50's sitcom vibe. I had a sister from another mister who turned me on to the show, and while it's not something I watch myself, I have benevolent feelings toward the show, and its executive producer Dan Schneider, who is one of the few TV producers who can make entertainment that is both family friendly and doesn't condescend to its audience.
"The Muppets" are probably my favorite though, with the last movie being eight different kinds of funny, over-the-top, silly, self-referential, and similarly capable of entertaining adults and children alike. Also Chris Cooper raps. You can't go wrong. give "Man or Muppet" a google and get ready to laugh a bit, first because it's a silly song, and second because it's actually pretty relate-able.
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Blog Otter Award: Everyone who mentioned Kurt Vonnegut, because I didn't. I think for a lot of people he's sort of the gateway to thinking beyond what we see, if that makes sense, and if you caught onto him at a certain time, namely in highschool or junior high, you were probably a better, and more critically thinking, person for it.
A tagline from that movie is "Ya know, for Kids!" and it got me thinking about the stuff we watch that, as mostly well-adjusted adults, is probably a big below our age range.
What 'kid' shows do you enjoy, or think hold up to viewings as an adult?
The correct answer to this question is "The Animaniacs". Simply classic stuff that's even better the older you are. While I still think Chicken Boo is one of the dumbest thing in the history of dumb things, the rest of the show is great. The songs are catchy and the jokes are still funnier, and in fact funnier now that you can pick up on the number of subtle Hollywood references throughout the show's run.
"Fairly Odd Parents" is a good one, and still something I'll click on if it's on and I'm trying to do something else. Similarly ribald and subversive, it's a show that's more 'for all ages' versus for only children.
"iCarly" ain't half bad, either, kind of capturing a zany 50's sitcom vibe. I had a sister from another mister who turned me on to the show, and while it's not something I watch myself, I have benevolent feelings toward the show, and its executive producer Dan Schneider, who is one of the few TV producers who can make entertainment that is both family friendly and doesn't condescend to its audience.
"The Muppets" are probably my favorite though, with the last movie being eight different kinds of funny, over-the-top, silly, self-referential, and similarly capable of entertaining adults and children alike. Also Chris Cooper raps. You can't go wrong. give "Man or Muppet" a google and get ready to laugh a bit, first because it's a silly song, and second because it's actually pretty relate-able.
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Blog Otter Award: Everyone who mentioned Kurt Vonnegut, because I didn't. I think for a lot of people he's sort of the gateway to thinking beyond what we see, if that makes sense, and if you caught onto him at a certain time, namely in highschool or junior high, you were probably a better, and more critically thinking, person for it.
1. I tried out this "Slice The Pie" thing yesterday and it gives you a few pennies for reviewing songs. It's not a lot or even a little bit of money, but if you're bored at work a lot or have a ton of down-time, it can be a cool little writing exercise and it'll earn you a couple of bucks in the process.
Voltron.
ReplyDeleteEven Stevens w/Shia Labeouf, seasons 1 & 2 of Rugrats. I would say Looney Tunes, but anyone who knows its history knows it was made by adults and for their own pleasure, more or less. Great stuff!
ReplyDeleteThe Muppet Show, of course.
ReplyDeleteTeen Titans Go!
ReplyDeleteAdventure Time!
def agree on icarly, and i'd add victorious in there, as well
ReplyDeletesam and cat... jury's still out on it, but in general dan schneider's brilliant. just look at his track record. you go, dennis from 'head of the class'!
and i will forever love the muppets
most pixar stuff is great
'the transformers: the movie' seems to hold up better than the animated series, maybe cause of its darker tones. the kick ass metal soundtrack helps, too.
ReplyDeleteand i know we're talking about kids stuff, but in 'the muppets' when amy adams is singing "me party' and dancing...
ReplyDeleteDEM LEGS
inb4 someone mentions 'rock n' wrestling', late 80's wwf, current pg era, and all permutations thereof (though i'm guessing current pg era really wont be included)
ReplyDeleteX-Men: The Animated Series.
ReplyDeleteBatman: The Animated Series.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, currently on Nickelodeon.
...That's all I've got for right now.
Dem legs is right.
ReplyDeletelenny vowels, the animated series
ReplyDeleteAnimaniacs really is good. I also have a fondness for all the old, classic Warner Bros cartoons...of course, they weren't necessarily meant for kids. I still enjoy a lot of the classic Disney films; not the shows so much. I do like both the original Muppet Show and the 90s reboot.
ReplyDeleteMore recently, I dig the Justice League animated show and most of the DC animated films.
ReplyDeleteTom & Jerry and the old Warner Brothers cartoons. Though Pepe Le Pew is a little hard to watch these days.
ReplyDeleteThe only kid shows I can say I'd like is Japanese anime programs back in the days of FOX Kids, although obviously shit like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon are absolutely retarded as animes due to blatant disregard for their own game mechanics. You are using the anime to sell your game, not the other way around. Looney Tunes are obviously legends because Looney Tunes, ditto the various spinoffs from it.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, my two younger siblings watched a lot of TreeHouse instead of Teletoon back in the day, meaning I had to sit through -** classics such as Big Comfy Couch and Franklin. The only highlight of the TH Era had to have been a character in Mighty Machines saying out of nowhere: "I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I GOT BAKED!" The character in question was not edible. Make your own jokes here.
Oh yeah, Teletoon has/had some decent stuff. Johnny Test and Jimmy TwoShoes are solid midcard shows, and some of the cancelled ones like whats with Andy, Ned's Newt, that one show with the supernatural dog and the over cliched family, and the Kids From Room 402 were solid.
ReplyDeleteYTV has really fallen though.
Love the old Looney Tunes, the ones done at 24 fps that are just completely "politically incorrect and offensive" in our times. They were just such better quality animation imo.
ReplyDeleteFor more recent things I'm big into Adventure Time and Phineas and Ferb.
ReplyDeleteTransformers: The Movie (original animated), not the TV show though.
ReplyDeleteThe Muppet Show, although I don't think that's really a kids show per se.
Animaniacs.
Many of the classic cartoons - WB, and T&J.
The Incredibles. I was an adult when I first saw this.
Incredibles is pretty good and has a great little subtext of how we simultaneously encourage our children to be the best, but hypocritically also to include everyone.
ReplyDeleteBatman: TAS is definitely the best of the more modern era I think, Kevin Smith does a fantastic podcast called Fatman on Batman where he invites a different Batman creator in every episode to talk, he's done a ton of episodes with guys like Bruce Timm and Mark Hammill just going DEEEEEEP into TAS. Awesome stuff for a TAS nerd if you haven't checked it out.
ReplyDeleteI've heard so many good things about the Pixar films in general but that's the only one that I've ever seen.
ReplyDeleteDespicable Me is pretty good. The first one, anyway, I haven't seen the second one, though my niece said it wasn't anything special.
ReplyDeleteFavourite Kids show? The Kids in the Hall for having lines like "Gentlemen! This is an office for businessmen, not a large toaster for cowards!"
ReplyDeleteSerious answer is probably the 90's Batman stuff, if only because it had Batman quoting NIetzsche.
Freakazoid held up pretty well because of all the absurd bits, and Darkwing Duck is worth rewatching for all the awful puns I missed the first time.
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ReplyDeleteYeah that 90s Batman stuff was great. A lot of it went over my head in 1992 but I liked it anyway.
ReplyDeleteFor me its only wrestling. I can barely sit through a Batman movie and don't care for cartoons but for some reason I still follow the current wrestling product.
ReplyDeleteI own the first three seasons of "The Muppet Show" on DVD (still waiting for the last two to be released), as well as every Muppet movie, the first season of "Fraggle Rock" and the first volume of "Sesame Street Old School." And I apologize to no one for any of it.
ReplyDeleteI do enjoy the x men and spiderman cartoons from fox in the 90's and didn't the 3 Nolan batman movies or the rdj iron man/avengers stuff. Nothing I would go out of my way to watch but definitely childrens programming I can watch.
ReplyDeleteLots of cartoons . . . Animaniacs, Freakazoid, Sam & Max, Spectacular Spider-Man, Ultimate Spider-Man, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, 90s Batman, Samurai Pizza Cats, anything Miyazaki or Studio Ghibli, and . . . my hidden embarrassment . . The Pokemon cartoons and movies.
ReplyDeleteI have 10 and 7-year-old girls, so I'm subjected to all of the current stuff. Ones that they like that I don't mind are Good Luck Charlie (largely because the parents are allowed to be funny and aren't just obstacles to overcome), Sam & Kat (and by extension iCarly), Phineas and Ferb, and The Amazing World of Gumball. I won't go out of my way to watch any of these myself, but don't hate when they're on.
ReplyDeleteOnes I like myself? The 90s/early 2K DC Cartoons (Batman TAS, Batman Beyond, Justice League, Superman, etc), the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon, and anything Jim Henson (ok, MOST things Jim Henson).
I'd watch it... maybe.
ReplyDeleteOut of all those, the only one I've really watched is Phineas and Ferb, and that's another show that deserves its props. Great humor for kids AND adults.
ReplyDeleteI love Boy Meets World because of the way it allowed itself to develop and evolve. So many shows lose their luster or get canceled prematurely because they refuse to let go of certain models (these two always have to be at odds with each other, this guy always has to be an idiot). Boy Meets World followed a group of characters from, what, Middle School all the way to marriage. And it didn't feel forced. Awesome show.
ReplyDeleteThe Spectacular Spider-man is probably my favorite Spidey cartoon.
ReplyDeleteIt was my favorite as well. Ultimate has some good episodes though as well, although it is a bit high in the wacky quotient that might turn some fans off. Also they like to change up backgrounds for no reason (The new Rhino really pissed me off).
ReplyDeleteGumball is a really F**ed Up show, I love it.
ReplyDeleteI do like that we're getting such quality comic-book related content these days.
ReplyDeleteThe Superman show was really good too.
Avatar: The Last Airbender, Batman: The Animated Series and The Adventures of Pete & Pete are three of my favorite shows of all-time. Not just between kids' shows, but any shows of all time.
ReplyDeleteNickelodeon and Cartoon Network early/mid 90's thru 2000
ReplyDeleteyou know, the classics. Doug,Rugrats, angry beavers, Hey Arnold, Ren & Stimpy, Dexters Lab, cow & Chicken etc. Tooo many to list
If it was a cartoon, and was with those blocks of shows, than it was the shit
Man, I cant think of anything at all. Great contribution by me.
ReplyDeleteOne of my favorite dates (that I didn't think was a date at the time) was when me and my ex went to see the new Muppet movie.
ReplyDeleteWe both randomly decided to go see it one night, but when she showed up to the theater, she tells me she threw her back out. I'm shocked, because she clearly looked terrible that night (hair was a mess, she was wearing sweatpants), but it was one of those moments where you realize that despite everything, she rearranged her night for me.
I felt so guilty about it, but we both loved the movie, and a week later she invites me over to her place, and we started our little thing for a few months before she moved to New York.
Regular Show, I enjoy it as an adult, yet it is clean enough for the kids.
ReplyDeleteRegular show is pretty good. Tons of really subtle drug references, like when they tripped on donuts to where they tripped out of existence.
ReplyDeleteBatman Animated Series
ReplyDeleteAnimaniacs
Spongebob
Fairly Odd Parents
I could never get into spongebob
ReplyDeleteI really like that show a lot. One of the best finales I've seen.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite bit is when Will gets fake married to get laid, and Uncle Phil is like "I'm not going to punish you now Will, but I will, I will..." and then the tag after the credits is like "50 years later"
Yea, watched it once and was like WTF is this shit. Another show I could never understand the appeal of was PowerRangers. It hit its peak when I was in the 7-8th grade and it was freaking awful I thought
ReplyDeleteI'm going to go in reverse with this one. As an adult, I tried to watch "Dukes of Hazzard" reruns, and thought that the show was written for kids, because honestly, the dialogue was pretty stupid. As a kid, I enjoyed the stunts and the freeze-frame commercial break.
ReplyDeleteOf course, Despicable Me isn't Pixar, but it's still a terrific movie.
ReplyDeleteYeah you're a bit too old for it at that point.
ReplyDeleteThe big "draw" of power-rangers is that there was literally 0 live-action television at the time with such expert fight choreography and special effects. The show itself was cheesey, but the Robots / Fights / Stunts were pretty state of the art for TV at the time.
Maybe Highlander is close, but otherwise I can't think of anything featuring multiple people using real martial arts, every episode.
Do you even understand what 'subtext' and 'subtle' mean?
ReplyDeleteJesus.
Most Adam Sandler movies fit into this category in the movie genre.
ReplyDeleteCan you give someone a downvote and an upvote at the same time?
ReplyDeleteI enjoy my favorites from Nick's golden era more now then when I was a kid... most of it is probably nostalgia, but there's definitely an underlying "Shit, I was cool for laughing at that!" vibe going on.
ReplyDeleteAlso 80's references.
ReplyDeleteYeah, though I have to say that "The Touch" by Stan Bush is officially played out, and it makes me sad.
ReplyDeleteLiked the first run of Teen Titans on Cartoon Net more than a grownup should. Newer run's a little too anime-ish for my tastes....Most of Schneider's stuff is very good, reminiscent of the TGIF stuff from the 80's......just never fall down the rabbit hole of rumor and innuendo regarding Schneider. Depressing shit if you believe the crap out there.
ReplyDeleteYeah. I do.
ReplyDeleteWhile it isn't DIRECT about it, since that movie is about Superheros and such, there is a SUBTLE undercurrent about what it means to be exceptional, and how you deal with that.
The fast kid (I forgot his name), is consistently being told not to run too fast or show off too much for fear of blowing his proverbial cover, which grates him to no end. If he's special, why should he hold in his ability? Why can't he try out for track? Because it wouldn't be "fair"
Toward the end of the movie when he's finally told to run as fast as he can, there's an awesome, "Robin"-esque joy to it, a kid showing off what he's the best at in a world he's been consistently told to not.
In a very subtle way this kind of makes the audiences who want to think about it ponder how we treat out children and our athletes. We're no longer allowed to pick teams in P.E because we can't hurt feelings. We don't play dodgeball because it may hurt, and little league baseball games all end in ties when you're a kid.
We want our children to excel, but we're afraid to teach our children that YES sometimes there WILL be people better, strong, faster, and smarter than you are, no matter what.
The Incredibles, subtly, and subtextually, illustrates that kind of point. I say subtly because it's not in your face, and sub-textually because you can pull that sort of theme from the sub-plot involving the fast kid.
Round House? No one remembers Round House.
ReplyDeleteI liked Billy Madison but I dunno. Sandler always came off to me as that kid in class who would make funny noises with his mouth and distract the class from the teacher and such. Which is fine, I mean the class laughed and all.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite Sandler movie that isn't a drama is probably 50 first dates, which actually kind of took a real stupid concept and made it sweet and heartfelt and warm. The part on the boat at the end when Sandler is by himself listening to the Beach Boys is hilarious / sad at the same time.
Though Jack & Jill gets credit for the gag where Jill breaks Pacino's Oscar, and she's like "OH you have to have a bunch more!" and he's like "You would think!"
Remember when everyone got all pissed about Cookie Monster making the point that cookies were 'sometimes food'?
ReplyDeleteWas I the only one on board with that?
You upvote him, I'll downvote him.
ReplyDeleteTopanga!
ReplyDeleteTransformers The Movie
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Fuck! I was hoping to get this in before you did. Totally right though, movie has a very adult feel to it.
ReplyDeleteProbably because it is fucking stupid
ReplyDeletehey, it's all good whoever got it in 1st
ReplyDeletetill all are one and stuff
I remember Roundhouse, it was part of the original Snick lineup along with whatever that scary story show was.
ReplyDeleteTHREADJACK: Tim Tebow was spotted at the Cleveland Airport.
ReplyDeleteARISE LOSERMIS PRIME
ReplyDeleteSenseless violence cartoons like Tom & Jerry or Bugs Bunny. No moral to the story just people doing mean stuff to other people for five minutes.
ReplyDeleteCant we just cut his left arm off so we dont have to hear about him anymore?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJujm_6t4lo
ReplyDeleteIt was "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" complete with the awesome catchphrase, "Submitted for the approval of the Midnight Society, I call this story..."
ReplyDeleteAnd speaking of catchphrases:
"Reprise the theme song and roll the credits..."
Are yoy a Tebow fan?
ReplyDeleteYoy I am.
ReplyDeleteBingo. I mean, dude...it was Voltron but with live action and martial arts...what's not to like?
ReplyDeleteYea, he won a playoff game, has great intangibles, and will probably give you better results then some current nfl QBs.
ReplyDeleteThe issue you have to change your entire offensive philosophy and personell to put him in an offense that gives him the best chance to succed. Dumb move for a QB with an 8-9 winning season ceiling that youll never ever win a SB with
I'll second that
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQIJ56rltjU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
ReplyDeleteYugioh has no excuse, but the Pokemon anime isn't meant to be the same canon as the games. Also, I thought the Big Comfy Couch was a good show when I was a kid.
ReplyDeleteAdventure Time and Regular Show are great. I also like iCarly, but I'm not sure about the new show with Sam.
ReplyDelete(Giants bias showing)Trent Dilfer's a SB qb. The right coach and defense, Tebow could have made noise. But yeah, it'd be a major league tough sell to change your entire team for a guy that'd be a hit away from the bench and you're stuck with some weird hybrid offense with no one else that can run it.
ReplyDeleteDilfer was such an exception IMO, that defense and special teams were so so great.
ReplyDeleteThe way the NFL has evolved to such a score happy league, I dont know if any team like that ravens team will ever win it again.
But yea, Dilfer was horrendous but has a ring.
haha I'm trying very desperately not to post AT4W's hours long power rangers retrospective right now, but my god what a brilliant series that is.
ReplyDeleteThe AT4W guy essentially breaks down the show seriously, but is completely aware of how freaking stupid it is, including little things like how all the characters dress like children (and all their parents dress like them), and so on.
SERIOUSLY worth a look.
Yeah, I really enjoy Linkara's History of the Power Rangers series. He goes into so much detail about the stories and character arcs, it's pretty fascinating. I only made it to Tommy becoming a white ranger then I just stopped watching the show. But Linkara's series is nice to see how the show developed.
ReplyDeleteYeah it's nuts. I mean the BEST part is that he treats it like a serious piece of work. So he'll talk about arcs and stuff in detail, ALL THE WHILE constantly referencing how idiotic the characters behave, AND calling back to earlier episodes that inform things happening in the main episode. It's brilliant.
ReplyDeleteI honestly think the fellah has some sort of switch flipped that most people don't.
Golden era...that's cute.
ReplyDeleteLet's try Pinwheel, Dangermouse, Belle and Sebastian, and David the Gnome.
What I liked about 50 First Dates is that it had the balls to not go for the easy happy ending of her getting cured.
ReplyDeleteIs Regular Show the one with that Blue Jay thing? If so, fuck it.
ReplyDeleteKind of shocked no one has mentioned Recess. I thought that was a really, really great show that accurately portrayed playground dynamics/elementary school but made it very relatable for adults as well. The movies were very solid, too.
ReplyDeleteAnd seconded on Boy Meets World, easily the best of the teen sitcoms of that time.
Salute Your Shorts was great. I haven't seen it in about 20 years, but I'm willing to bet it would still hold up today.
ReplyDeleteIt's not?
ReplyDeleteOh my god...that's right I forgot the Midnight Society and all of that. Hahahaha, good times indeed.
ReplyDeleteYep the original Snick line-up was Clarissa, Round House, Ren & Stimpy and Are You Afraid of the Dark. Clarissa and Round House were soon replaced by Alex Mack and All That.
ReplyDeleteAnimaniacs is of course the right answer but just caught some '90s X-Men last weekend and it was still pretty good. Also I love the late '90s NickToon The Angry Beavers.
ReplyDeleteNope, Universal. It was actually their first CG movie from their new in-house animation studio; not a bad debut!
ReplyDeleteFuck that, Roddimus was the bomb yo.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how people & reviewers at the time all thought Sabrina was the best TGIF sitcom, when only a couple years later that show would UTTERLY fail to hold up, and everyone was saying Boy Meets World was the best in retrospect.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with "Hollywood is full of scumfuck producers" stories is that they get mixed in with the crazy ass-tards who are all "Hollywood is ruled by the Illuminati and is using their symbolism to make you all their slaves!"
ReplyDeleteReally, it's just plain and simple that most Hollywood people are scum and that like in any job, people who are willing to kiss (or fuck) the most ass are going to get ahead. It's just more concentrated and noticeable there- like how there's ALWAYS this stream of pretty actresses touted as "The It Girl", only to get tossed aside next year. It's not a "conspiracy" because it's not like there's a cabal doing it.
Plus Kimberly the Pink Ranger.
ReplyDeleteHey Arnold was pretty fucking awesome. Great gags, never tried to be too pop culture-referential (a MAJOR thing that annoys me about most Nick shows is that they're all "HOHOHO WE ARE WRITTEN BY A BUNCH OF NERDS SO HERE'S A REFERENCE TO TRON! AREN'T WE CLEVER!?"), and actually dealt with how kids really act. And a lot of the kids are DIRT poor, and the show makes that clear. Very inner-city.
ReplyDeleteI haven't looked at all the responses, but did anyone else think of the Nostalgia Critic and his response when something creepy or scary happens?
ReplyDeleteI really liked Boy Meets World at the time, but it wasn't until a recent re-watch when I realized just how good it was. And it has held up tremendously, probably because the acting is so strong and they did a lot with the characters.
ReplyDeleteEver see the YouTube video Optimus Prime's Rude Awakening?
ReplyDeleteYou want a controversial A! statement? I liked Rita and Runt. Of course I really like Bernadette Peters...
ReplyDelete/Now the Hippos, FORGET IT
Yes, the Veggie Monster Scare. Although Sesame has at least TWICE had Cookie do a "take that" to those rumors. And now he has his own segment this season where he is in movie parodies chasing his real favorite food more often than not.
ReplyDeleteAnd Sesame is a good answer for this...even to this day (they had included 50 Shades of Gray and True Blood references!)
For becoming more sophisticated and all-around better done, yes. But the '80s had more iconic characters and figures, even if it was more cheesy. Plus the end of the '90s was when most of pop culture started to jump the shark.
ReplyDeleteYeah, most anime adaptions have something for everyone, despite being watered down in the States for violence and etc.
ReplyDeleteMy Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I said it. Come on, who wants some?
For me, I still catch most of the comic-related toons (primarily Beware the Batman now, along with Nick TMNT and the Vortexx Spectacular Spider-Man reruns). Also, how about the '80s series The Raccoons?
ReplyDeleteHow do you stand Beware the Batman? Almost as bad as the new Avengers cartoon...ok nothing is that bad.
ReplyDeleteIt's not as bad as I thought it would be. I am used to the CGI (like with GL) and they have some interesting picks from the B-or-C team of villains. Hopefully with Metamorpho showing up and Katana being the Robin expy, we will see an Outsiders reunion one day?
ReplyDeleteIt's better than Teen Titans Go! which is just for A) kids and B) people who like comedy and not comedy/action/drama. Which the original TT was, kind of.
And no I will not admit anything is worse than either of the piss poor Marvel replacements-for-good-series. If I do the terrorists win, or a puppy dies. I might as well like Jeph Loeb's greasy butthole, yes, admitting such is THAT BAD.
Funniest shit ever!!!
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