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The PG Era Recap: Raw, 10-28-13

When last we left our heroes, one of them had made a triumphant return; another had destroyed an overmatched nemesis; and the third found himself robbed. Who deserved what? Did Daniel Bryan's actions cause him to lose the title that was his? Is John Cena's fourteenth title reign a sign of more future dominance? And what of CM Punk's future, now that the Dangerous Alliance lies in tatters behind him?

The pre-show commercial promises talking from Shawn Michaels and John Cena.

- The PG-Era Rant for Monday Night Raw, October 28, 2013.

- Live from Orlando, Florida, which just seems appropriate for some reason.

- Your hosts are who you thought they were.


- Opening stills show CM Punk beating the living heck out of Paul Heyman and the controversial main event.

- But first, we will have a Punk/Ryback rematch, which is a WWE App match.

- The Champ Is Here! All this pink on red in the entranceway is messing with the satellite feed. Cena acknowledges that the mixed reactions didn't go away. Cena: “Y'all miss me?” Crowd: “YES!/NO!” Cena calls aside a special thank you to JBL for being the biggest skeptic of the bunch. He imitates JBL (doing a generic Texan accent, and not a very good one), then says it was all motivation for him. And now he's the champ. And from the sound of it, he doesn't plan on going anywhere. He promises that being World Champion means he'll be on SmackDown as well as Raw, and he'll be making the trip to Europe to take part in matches. He then brings up Orton's celebration for later. He knows there will be talking, so he'll be quiet. He thanks Alberto Del Rio for a great match and he knows they will have a rematch, and Cena is ready for it. But just as we end this feel-good segment, here comes Damien Sandow, dressed for action and with the briefcase – but no referee and with a microphone. Sandow: “The UNCROWNED Champ Is Here!” Sandow isn't fooled; he knows that tricep can't POSSIBLY be healed, especially after what Del Rio did. Cena's just talking because he's afraid of a cash-in by Sandow. Sandow reminds us of the briefcase's power, and he's CASHING IN... just kidding. Crowd boos the tease. Cena was ready for him anyway. Sandow then attacks Cena with a briefcase to the arm repeatedly. Crowd wants to see it happen. He wraps the arm around the ringpost, then throws him into the barricade (“RISE ABOVE THIS!”). Sandow's clearly thinking about it. But first, the steel steps. He separates the steps and gets a chair. He pins the arm to the steps and smashes the arm with the chair. Sandow: “My time is now!” It's happening! (Alarm bells are going off because we go to commercial.)

- Money in the Bank Cash-In, World Championship: John Cena v. Damien Sandow. Cena fends off Sandow and hides his arm, fighting with just his right arm, but Sandow finds the wing and does the arm-breaker for two. Sandow throws Cena into the post and cradles him for two. He works the arm some more with knees and a legdrop. Crowd is divded between Sandow as a coward and a new champion being crowned. Sandow with another two, and into an elbowlock and overhead hammerlock. Cena reverses to a Greco-Roman suplex. Sandow with an armdrag on the bad arm and more knees. Sandow wraps the arm around the ropes and adds elbows to Cena's gut. Snap suplex by Sandow gets two. Back to the hammerlock. The Twitter Ticker is divided. Sandow works Cena over in the ropes, but puts his head down and regrets it. Cena with a backdrop to a double KO as we go back to break. Only three minutes in? Man, they're milking it. We return mid-slugfest, with Cena using the bad arm for his shoulder tackle. Both men are down again, and Sandow attacks only to get a big boot and twist slam. But Cena's arm is bothered so much he can't follow up. Sandow attacks the bad arm during Cena's taunt and gets a flip neckbreaker for two. Sandow whips Cena's arm into the turnbuckle. They show the WWE doctor in concern as Sandow keeps attacking the arm. Cena does the AA (sort of – there's no oomph to it) and Sandow bails. The doctor checks on Cena, who waves him off. Cena tells the referee to stop the countout and chases Sandow, slowly rolling him in and putting on the STF with one arm. Sandow easily breaks (of course) and hits the Terminus for two. Crowd is on every near-fall right now. Sandow switches to a full nelson, but Sandow reverses to a flying neckbreaker of some sort for two. Cena adjusts the brace as they get up, but Sandow with the Crossface! Cena escapes it and tries the STF, but Sandow avoids it. AA is slipped out of, and the full nelson slam gets two. Sandow puts Cena up top as the crowd says THIS IS AWESOME (Oh yes!) and tries a superplex, but Cena fights his way out with headbutts. Sandow collapses on the mat, but Cena's crossbody airballs and Cena is hurt on his knee from the bad landing. Sandow loads up a piledriver, but Cena reverses to the AA and Sandow has FAILED at 13:14. Well... I'm sure the Blog hated this. But seriously, Sandow was a dud as Money in the Bank holder. Remember, he was only given the briefcase to turn Cody Rhodes face, which is a lousy reason, and he never caught on as future World Champion. It's no loss. ***1/2 Sandow looks devastated.

- Meanwhile, the Shield. We find out that Ambrose/Langston is rematching tonight. Ambrose admits that Langston's on the rise, but says Langston was privileged for having a match. They won't make the mistake of underestimating Langston. Rollins promises to get back to basics. Ambrose makes a point that he's the only Shield title holder, and Rollins and Reigns seem not to be happy with that. But he's the baddest man there is, so he'll retain.

- Hey, get the WWE App and choose a stipulation! And at least Street Fight, Falls Count Anywhere, and Tables are moderately different.

- United States Championship: Dean Ambrose v. Big E Langston. Cole recaps the actions of last night, focusing on the double-juice when their heads collide. Langston fires off on Ambrose early, but rns into the knees and Ambrose clotehslines Langston. Punches follow, and Ambrose gets a quick one. Ambrose boxes Langston in the corner and works on the eyes. Swinging neckbreaker gets one again. Ambrose stomps away and yells at Langston, which is a mistake because Langston fires back. Ambrose cuts off momentum only to get clotheslined. Langston puts his head down, but Ambrose just runs into a belly-to-belly suplex. Reigns low bridges on the Ultimate Splash and the referee calls a quick DQ at 1:43. The Shield go into triple-team mode, and here come the Usos for the save and clear the ring. And here comes Brad Maddox. HOLLA! (takes drink)

- Big E Langston and the Usos v. The Shield. Joined in progress as Reigns works over Jimmy and tags in Ambrose. Ambrose stomps away on Jimmy's hand and lands punches and a suplex. Rollins in, continuing the attack. Jimmy fights out, but Rollins knocks him back down HARD for two. Reigns in, and he lands a jumping elbow for two. Reigns drags Jimmy to the corner, and Ambrose follows with big stomps and boxing in the ropes. Running dropkick follows, getting two. Ambrose hooks his sleeper as we learn Big Show is not here tonight and Shawn Michaels will be next. Jimmy with a jawbreaker and Dragon Whip kick to Jimmy that staggers Ambrose. Ambrose dizzily tags in Reigns, who leaps straight into a DDT. Hot tag Jey, who ducks and dodges everyone and beats down Rollins with a gut kick and throat thrust. Spinebuster follows, and Rollins eats the hip check for two, Ambrose saves. Langston in, and they go flying with a Cactus clothesline. Rollins catches Jey and puts him up top, but Jey throws him down with a front superplex. Superfly splash hits the knees, and Reigns is in. Double suplex try, but one Uso catches the other and the Usos get a double kick on Rollins. Reigns spears BOTH USOS and win at 5:30 shown. Well, that was a fun finish at the very least. **

- And now, Shawn Michaels comes out, still looking conflicted. No overblown entrance for him, but he still has fans. JBL says Shawn owes no explanation because he can do whatever the heck he wants. Shawn knows he needs to explain, not just to the fans but to Danel Bryan. So he asks Bryan to come out so they can talk. Bryan's angry face needs work. Shawn says he never meant for it to happen. He says he called the match down the middle, but the fans say he sold out. Shawn says he reacted because of what Bryan did to HHH. He chose to retaliate because his best friend was knocked out, and their friendship will mean more than anything else in wrestling. Shawn gives HHH credit for pulling him out of his darkest moments, so he pulled HHH out. Shawn isn't asking Bryan to be okay with it. He just wants Bryan to accept an apology. Shawn offers his hand (Crowd: “NO!”), but Bryan refuses. Shawn admits that Bryan has become better than Shawn even thought he could. But last night, Shawn gave Bryan the last, best lesson: don't trust anyone. This lesson isn't going over well. Is the crowd chanting You Still Got It? He says the respect he's showing deserves a handshake, but again Bryan says no. Bryan is getting more over without saying a word. Shawn then goes into angry mode, saying he stuck up for Bryan every step of the way. He doesn't know or care about Bryan's status, but he's SHAWN MICHAELS and that should be enough to earn the handshake. Shawn's heel turn here is greatness. There's a Jericho/Malenko vibe. They do shake hands... and Bryan pulls Shawn straight into the Yes Lock! Michaels finally taps out, but Bryan won't let go. Crowd INSTANTLY begins a You Tapped Out chant. Cole says Bryan finally snapped as JBL keeps yelling whatever he says. Replays make it clear that Shawn taps. This may be Bryan's Stone Cold moment – and ironically, it's ALSO against Shawn Michaels.

- And now Renee Young asks Daniel Bryan to talk, but quickly backs off because the Wyatt Family attack. They throw him around backstage and into a ladder right next to Bray, who finishes him off with Sister Abigail's Kiss into the wall while saying the devil made him do it. One trunk thrown into Bryan's head later and he's out cold. So much for all that momentum Shawn gave him.

- Los Matadores v. Three Man Band. This time it's all three in a handicap match. HEATH SLATER HAS A BUTTERFLY NET. YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID. Epico and Jinder start, and Mahal works him over only to get hit with a rana and deep armdrag. Mahal reverses to a headlock, and Slater enters only to get caught. Mahal with a running knee allows Slater to stomp away, and 3MB get a double slingshot suplex. McIntyre gets two off of it. McIntyre stomps the head and works the arm. Slater enters and triple-teams some, then gets the air guitar only to miss the kneedrop. Hot tag Primo, who adds some flying jalapenos to McIntyre. Miscommunication disposes of Mahal, but McIntyre gets a running boot. Slater grabs the net and stalks Torito, who ducks under the ring as the chase is on. JBL is whispering on commentary. Torito blasts Slater with a fire extinguisher and gores him. McIntyre is distracted, and the Scot Drop ends it at 3:41. After the match, Slater gets netted instead and Torito adds a flying gore. Honestly, that wasn't even a GOOD comedy match, unlike the Santino effort last week.
1/4*

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AJ Lee and Tamina Snuka v. The Bella Twins. Is it just me, or is this story going backwards? Brie is understandably distracted. For whatever reason, Brie starts anyway with AJ, who attacks early with a spin kick and skips around the ring. Brie with a dropkick, but Tamina enters only for Brie to fend her off. Tamina spins away Brie for one, then slaps on the chinlock. AJ is constantly being shown smiling. Brie elbows out, but Tamina headbutts Brie and yanks her down by the hair for two. Back to the chinlock, but Brie with an enzuigiri and hot tag Nikki. Clotheslines follow, and Nikki with a dropkick. Tamina drops Nikki on the ropes, but is distracted by Brie and Nikki gets a Thesz press. Tamina avoids a charge, but Nikki gets her feet up. Tamina catches Nikki, throws her into Brie, and nails a Samoan Drop. She drags Nikki over to tag in AJ, who is more than ready to end the match, and the Black Widow is on for the tapout at 3:31. Aha – endgame here isn't Eva Marie or JoJo. It's going to be Tamina! The Total Divas really AREN'T legitimate wrestlers at all! 1/2* Maybe not, but that's the vibe I'm getting here. After all, Tamina did all the work in that match as AJ just waited on the side, then AJ insisted on getting the pin. This is how Shawn and Diesel went, too.

- Last night, the Wyatts attacked The Miz. Kane raced in for the save and beat up everyone, Miz included.

- Kane v. The Miz. Miz doesn't do his entrance and appears to be limping. Miz with big rights, but Kane floors him with one punch. Big boot follows for two. Kane with an uppercut, but Miz fights back with big kicks and the through-the-ropes clothesline. Miz dives off the top, but is caught with a chokeslam for the pin at 1:14. After the match, Kane calls out Stephanie. Stephanie does come out (much to the announcers' chagrin), but stays on the stage wisely. Kane takes up the cause against Stephanie, proclaiming her evilness, but knows that doing so is what's Best For Business™, and offers his services to Stephanie. Kane removes his mask and hands it to Stephanie as he leaves. Wait, what? Why?

- Hey, the Prime Time Players shill WWE Shop. Darren Young shills the replica Divas' Title. Just saying.

- David Otunga offers his professional opinion on the Big Show lawsuit. You know, this is what he SHOULD be doing. He says the lawsuit could change the power structure of WWE.

- CM Punk is out to talk. He seems much happier, and in fact he admits he FINALLY got a good's night sleep last night because he finally destroyed Paul Heyman. That's right, Heyman is DONE. So now that Heyman's out of the way, it's time to eliminate Ryback. Because with the two separated, Ryback doesn't have a prayer. Interestingly, Punk says the three options are pin, submission, or table. Anyway, Punk promised to end Heyman, and now he'll promise to end Ryback.

- Street Fight (59%): CM Punk v. Ryback. So, as I recall, the difference between “Street Fight” and “Falls Count Anywhere” is that the pin must be in the ring. Ryback throws Punk into the corner and smashes elbows into him. Ryback chops away on Punk, but the blind charge hits knees and Punk with a crossbody for one. Punk disposes of Ryback, following with a plancha... that Ryback catches to send him into the post and barricade. Ryback pounds down on Punk, then goes under the ring and pulls out a table (because the heck with the vote). Ryback goes for Punk, who ninjas up a kendo stick and pounds away on Ryback before walking into a spinebuster. Ryback screams at Punk to get up and loads the Meathook, but Punk ducks under with a swinging neckbreaker for two. Now Punk finishes setting up the table, but Ryback catches a high kick and nails a turnbuckle powerbomb. Ryback with a headbutt in the corner and he loads Punk on the top turnbuckle, following up for a superplex. Punk chops his way out and knocks Ryback down, but Ryback catches Punk AGAIN only for Punk to slip out and high kick Ryback, who falls on the table. Punk goes up, and the Macho Elbow through the table follows into the Anaconda Vice. Ryback taps out at 4:27. That's IT? A five minute match? Wow, Ryback really IS in the doghouse. *1/4 But before we get too excited, the Wyatt Family are headed to the ring. Wow, they're really bringing the Wyatts up fast. Punk won't leave and keeps the kendo stick near him. Punk uses the stick to get a little distance, but it's no use as the Wyatts beat Punk down. Crowd hopes for Daniel Bryan to make the save, but that's not happening. Wyatt heads to the ring as Punk is bleeding. But Punk headbutts Wyatt and gets another flurry, only it doesn't lead to anything and Wyatt seems happy to see it. Wyatt with Sister Abigail's Kiss on Punk to finish the deal. Again, the devil made him do it. Punk's blood on Wyatt's arm is a great touch. See, this is how you push someone the crowd is getting behind.

- We the People v. The Rhodes Brothers. This is non-title, which makes sense since they haven't earned the shot. Dustin and Cesaro start, with some lockups that go nowhere. Dustin splits in Cesaro's face, which annoys Cesaro and gets him to walk into some armdrags. Cesaro brings in Swagger, but Dustin works his arm, too, as the Universe declares He Still Got It. Dustin is cornered, and in comes Cesaro to box him in the corner. Dustin with a back elbow off the second rope for one. The brothers double-team Cesaro, and Cody with a running knee for one. Cesaro works Cody over in the corner, but Cody reverses only to get into a chinlock. Cody blocks that and suplexes Cesaro, bringing Dustin in for a bulldog for two. Everyone tags out, and Cody with a springboard dropkick to Swagger before sending him out of the ring as we go to break. All these WWE2K14 ads make me realize Goldust isn't in the game. Neither is Roddy Piper. I consider these both grave oversights. We return with Cody cornered by We the People, and Swagger gets a clothesline and belly-to-belly suplex. Cesaro enters with a Karelin suplex on Cody, getting two. Cesaro with a European Uppercut, and Swagger enters and gets a front chancery. Cody tries to push Swagger back for the tag, but Swagger adjusts his grip and throws Cody into the corner. Cesaro with a Hotshot for good measure, and Swagger and Cesaro do the Vaderbomb/leapfrog stomp combo (although Swagger was a little too far away and Cesaro did more of a dropkick) for two. JBL's conspiracy theory about Los Matadores and El Torito is getting old. Cody escapes a chinlock, but gets nailed with the elevation uppercut for two before Dustin saves. Cesaro and Dustin exchage words, buying time for Cody, but Cesaro with a straight right to keep up the punishment. Cody fights out and throws punches, getting a knee to the face that sends Cesaro to the outside. Swagge can't cut off the hot tag, and Dustin bowls down anyone that moves, adding the kneeling uppercut to Swagger. Dustin in the corner with the ten-punch countalong, stopping at nine to do the inhalation before landing #10. I miss that spot. Swagger reverses a whip but runs into a powerslam. Cody nails the Disaster on Cesaro, and Dustin with a twisting crossbody on Swagger for two. Swagger instantly reverses to the Patriot Lock, but Dustin escapes and cradles Swagger for two as Cesaro saves. Cody is dumped again, so is Cesaro again, and Swagger clips Dustin and gets the Patriot Lock for the submission at 12:16. YES! THEY'RE GETTING A PUSH! ***1/4 Sorry, guys, but I'm a big Swagger fan. Deal with it.

- The failed cash-in deserves a recap.

- Alberto Del Rio is out in a suit. Del Rio doesn't care about the failed cash-in, because he is upset with “that thief” John Cena. Cena stole the belt, don't you know. There will be a rematch, and Del Rio will make Cena hurt BAD. The arm is a target for the submission specialist, who promises to break it. The World Title is his and only his, but we already know that. So we have Cena/ADR at Survivor Series (not official, but most likely).

- WWE2K14 provides us with a look at Undertaker v. Goldberg as a WrestleMania match. The Streak would continue, of course.

- Summer Rae v. Natalya. You know, how in the world is Summer Rae supposed to get over when JBL won't even call her by her name? JBL says Summer Rae looks like Josephine Baker. I believe Josephine was black. Meanwhile, Natalya comes out to Great Khali's music. If they make Khali, Hornswoggle, Santino, and Kidd a Survivor Series team for the pre-show match, I'll watch. Summer Rae dances, but Natalya escapes a kick catch and applies a leglock. Summer reverses to a headlock, but Natalya runs her over. Natalya handsprings over Summer on a criss-cross and goes for a waistlock, but Summer with a jack-knife for one that Natalya makes a backslide for two. They keep the arms hooked, and Summer smashes Natalya and does some ballet moves with the rope. Spinning high kick gets one. Summer yells in Natalya's face and does the boot choke, looking like a talented Stacy Keibler more and more by the minute, then adds a snapmare and STUMP PULLER OF DOOM. Summer turns it into a pinning predicament for two. She floors Summer for two, then mocks Natalya before working the leg. Spinning leglock into a quasi-figure four follows. Natalya slaps Summer to break it, and Summer just goes to catfighting. Natalya backs Summer into the corner, but Summer counters for two before we HIT THE CHINLOCK. Summer just lays Natalya down and covers for one before we return to the chinlock. Yes, that happened. Natalya elbows out, but runs into a dropkick for two. Summer makes out with Fandango, but Hornswoggle interrupts. Fandango floors Hornswoggle and gets floored by Khali, which allows Natalya to recover with the Sharpshooter for the submission at 5:18. THIS is the woman they rave about on NXT? -*

- Main event celebration. And yes, the locker room is on the stage again. Curtis Axel is capable of standing at least. The Shield are between the stage and the ring. This is, right now, literally the same setup we had the night after SummerSlam. Bryan and Brie are absent as of now, as are a few other top-carders. Shield enter the ring with HHH and Stephanie. HHH says that Vince asked him, “the man who started it all”, who the face of the WWE would be back in 2003. HHH said he found that man and put him in Evolution and watched him become a star. (My thought: But enough about Batista.) Then that star became an evil man who attacked everyone, including the McMahons. But now, he is truly A+ and is the WWE Champion who won at Hell in a Cell and is truly the face of WWE. HHH lets us know Bryan is in a hospital bed and will not interrupt this celebration. The prophecy is fulfilled, and the face of the WWE is WWE Champ. So here's Randy Orton. The crowd is just numb. Very little reaction to Orton's entrance. Stephanie lets us know that Orton is EVERYONE'S champion, and he represents the WWE locker room. He's what they should be. Stephanie asks them to show Orton respect, and from what I saw, only Brad Maddox applauded. Crowd starts a HUGE “NO” chant. Orton says being champion makes him better than everyone else. Orton says you're either born a success or never a success. Orton calls himself the roster's superior... and Big Show's music hits!? And yes, here he comes storming to the ring. Shield dogpile on Show, but the Rhodeses and Usos take the Shield out of the equation as all heck breaks loose on stage. This leaves Show alone with Orton and HHH. JBL asks the obvious: how did he sneak in anywhere? Show sends the Authority scrambling out of the ring and grabs the mic. He doesn't care about the restraining order because the Orton thing makes him sick. He's not afraid of going to jail because he WILL be bailed out. Show will cost the company millions of dollars and doesn't care if he bankrupts HHH and WWE. He will take everything from them because he has nothing to lose... but Orton attacks Show from behind with the belt. He measures Show, but Show catches Orton with the WMD instead. HHH and Stephanie are out of ideas as Show does the COME AT ME BRO pose. Just to show where the heat is, the crowd is chanting YES at this. HHH pulls his jacket off and looks like he's going to get physical, but backs off instead. Stephanie is holding HHH back. There's a long standoff between the two as the crowd unloads a HUGE Big Show chant. Fair enough. But HHH won't do anything as Big Show's music plays. Show walks out in triumph as HHH returns and fumes. The locker room has abandoned the stage, presumably trying to break up the Shield fight, and that's the last thing we see as the show ends.

FINAL THOUGHTS:

So a SummerSlam main event featuring a divided crowd with John Cena facing an minor league superstar that the crowd wanted to see go to the top has now linearly turned into a feud between HHH as company executive against a big guy from WCW. That's the last I'm saying about THAT.

Let's focus on more positive things: Bryan and Punk are likely to team up against the Wyatts, which will make a fantastic big/little dynamic. We the People are going against the Rhodes Brothers, and everyone in that match knows how to do a Southern-style tag team match that will blow the roof off. Big E Langston is getting the push he's shown in NXT he deserved.

They're reshuffling the midcard, which is a good thing because they need to test new people. Sandow was not getting over as Mr. Money in the Bank, and this was officially pulling the plug on that experiment. Bray Wyatt is the hot hand as a heel, and now he's getting his chance with the top names. Kane will likely replace Orton in teaming with the Shield against some combination the Rhodeses and Usos at Survivor Series, or would if I did it. So right now, the undercard is still where it needs to be and improving.

The AJ thing is reaching critical mass. It's true that Brie isn't really a wrestler's wrestler, but it's clear they've given up on Natalya, and tonight's stinker doesn't give me confidence anyway. Tamina needs to be endgame, because it's poetic justice, and also because the Total Divas have been punked out by AJ over the past few weeks to the point where none of them are likely to be the one to win the gold.

Plus, Cena's back. Love him or hate him, he puts on great matches, so I will simply enjoy those. The fact that he's agreed to work Tuesdays can only be a plus for that show. Say what you will about Bryan or Orton, but merch numbers indicate Cena IS good for business, so more of him is a shrewd move.

There's enough to like about this show. Let's focus on that.

STATS:

MATCH TIME: 50:54 over nine matches
BEST MATCH: Cena/Sandow
WORST MATCH: Summer/Natalya
NIGHT MVP (kayfabe): Bray Wyatt

FINAL SCORE: 6. There's enough that I like, and the Cena/Sandow matches needs to be seen, as does the tag champ's match. Kane's inexplicable heel turn is a dark mark on the undercard, but I'm actually willing to let that play out. The celebration did nothing for me.

That's all I got. Stay tuned for Scott Keith and Tommy Hall bringing you Raw Lite, NXT, and SmackDown. In the meantime, I'll be busy playing WWE2K14.

Comments

  1. Nattie screwed up the finish, she was out of place and Summer had to repeat the spot, so I wouldnt go blaming everything on Summer. Nattie doesnt bring anything to the table. She isnt good enough to lead the inexperienced girls and botches more spots than just about anyone else in the company.

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  2. That line about botching is a patently risible falsehood in a company that still employs Sin Cara.

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  3. Nattie isnt much better.

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  4. Punk's white-hot heat two years ago led to HHH vs Kevin Nash somehow.
    Bryan's white-hot heat this summer leads to HHH vs Big Show somehow.
    Unbelievable.

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  5. I dig these a bunch. BTW if you were serious about doing videos for the PPVs, let me know. I can make you a few graphics.

    That said, regarding your video from the prior post (which I hope you don't mind me critiquing here), I had a few thoughts:



    1. Prompter prompter prompter - You're personable and seem to have good screen presence...and you also look like an Uncle I have, but that's a different story. Buuuuut I'd recommend trying to write up what you want to talk about, then run it through some prompter software so you can read EXACTLY what you want to say. There's tons of free software out there, give it a google.

    Though upon a second watch I think you had prompter software and were reading off to the side. If you have an iOS device like an ipad or something, try to place is either directly behind your camera.

    2. Framing. The framing is kind of interesting, as you're essentially looking down at the camera, which 1) makes you blue from the screen, and 2) make it look like you have man boobies (not that there's anything wrong with that!). If I had my way I'd probably sit you at a desk or a table or something where we'd be looking at you from the middle of your sternum, up.

    3. For a video that was done in one take, with (I'm assuming) little prior experience, you're pretty compelling. I'm not sure what you're editing in, but if you want to improve I'd seriously say move the PPV video to Monday and wait for WWE to upload photos from the event, so you can go 'full video' with those and do some cool pans / zooms and stuff. This also allows you to read your copy a lot easier.

    That said, always a big fan of in depth stuff and your stuff is the most indepthiest of the blog! Kudos!

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  6. Can't wait until he does the same thing to Sami Zayn's heat in two years, yet people somehow continue to ignore the common denominator in each scenario.

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  7. Well the good news is that we get to finally see Punk and DB team up which can only mean awesome things. As for the rest hmmm pretty much garbage, you can't blame Sandow for flopping as MITB holder, the dude was jobbing to everyone left right and center for 4 straight months, how an earth does that help him? I feel bad for the guy because he has seemingly been cursed the moment he won it topped off to jobbing clean to a one armed Cena.

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  8. I deleted this, then undeleted this, so if you see it and wonder why it's from a guest, it was me.

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  9. Wow. Thanks, Paul! As it turns out, this was essentially the second take -- the first one took a half-hour and was too big for YouTube, so I consolidated my thoughts. My laptop camera isn't at the same level as the bed I was sitting on -- I think next time I might move to my kitchen table to make it better. As for a prompter, I'd be worried about that since I couldn't see myself and see if I do something stupid (although my fidgeting didn't help). Though in the future, I might indeed take you up on that offer. Thanks for the kind words!

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  10. You're talking in riddles, man! No sense whatsoever!

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  11. Ugh. Remember when psycho heel Orton would just do what he wanted, to whomever he wanted, and was a scary, vicious motherfucker that people credibly believed could and would do anything to walk away with the title? Cause I remember that guy getting over pretty huge and ascending as a top heel that people either wanted to see, or wanted to see beaten.


    This whole Bryan/Orton debacle has left both guys looking like tools. Whether they viewed it as a spring-board to make Bryan a star, a means to rejuvenate a heel Orton, or the combination of both, they've failed on every count. Everybody came out of this weaker, and the audience has been left without ANYBODY to give a shit about moving forward.

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  12. You got a charismatic vibe to you, definitely consider doing more with the videos.

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  13. No problem! Here's some framing Ideas: 1) Holding a camera away from your face via your iPhone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYWIpTKv1Zg (my WWE 2k review)

    2) Sitting on a couch and having a friend hold the camera - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3NukSKLnMw - This is great if you want to be personable. Having someone to actually talk too is a great way to be more natural on camera.

    3) Same Seat, multiple angles - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2oVaeMQiKM&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLA6C8F2F9A87BCC15 This allows you to cut between 'your best stuff' and edit for the best takes.

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  14. Punk at least still became champion again while HHH/Nash had their wankfest.

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  15. Real Americans. 'We the People' is their catchphrase.

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  16. Ugh. Remember when psycho heel Orton would just do what he wanted, to whomever he wanted, and was a scary, vicious motherfucker that people credibly believed could and would do anything to walk away with the title? Cause I remember that guy getting over pretty huge and ascending as a top heel that people either wanted to see, or wanted to see beaten.



    I remember that guy. But I mostly remember how HHH beat him in the main event of WM to get his heat back.

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  17. Nattie has three fans?

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  18. It was the wrong ending, for sure.


    But Orton did still have a long, great heel run as a vicious heel champ (and trading the belt with Cena).

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  19. I was going to say "Well, there are more than three Harts," then I remembered the Harts seemingly all hate each other. At least the living ones.


    Owen was clearly too good for this world.

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  20. No sir, I don't like it.

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  21. The only people getting behind the wyatts are the other fatsos in line at the Chinese buffet

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  22. Are they pushing the Wyatts up or Punk/Bryan down?

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  23. And I though Summer Rae's match was pretty good.

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  24. I think they are sticking them against Punk & Bryan for now as a last ditch effort to get them over. If this fails, you can stick a fork in this group.

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  25. Dude seriously the WWF would have been so much better if in 1996 bret and Shawn were used to get the Godwin's over and Bob backlund and hulk hogan had a pull apart brawl over an unconscious ted dibiase who was the wwe champion.

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  26. The thing is, I've heard the crowd react to the "We're here" on a regular basis, and I know I've heard them clap along to "Broken Out of Love". So is it that all the heat's on Wyatt, or is it overblown?

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  27. IMO its a waste of the two best guys on the roster. I'm sure those two will get the feud over huge (punk just had the angle of the year with Curtis Axel) but then what do the Wyatt's do?

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  28. Once the bell rings, the act isnt over. They are not entertaining in the ring at all.

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  29. He was too good for that family at least.


    Seriously, any television producer with two brain cells to rub together would have been up there YEARS AGO filming a reality show with those bozos, and you wouldn't need that "fake" reality those other E! shows.


    And the show would be a guaranteed hit.

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  30. And I've heard dead silence during their dog shit matches. You can wear all the weird goat masks you want, and cut nonsense promos that are eeeeeevvvvvvvviiiiiillllllll but what's the pay off in the ring? Why are evil swamp people wrestling? And wake me up when these fatties have a match that breaks two stars. Or add Chris hero to the stable or something.

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  31. Scream09_HartKillerOctober 28, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    I know we all knew it was coming, but seriously, the fucking Big Show? Again? Like, it's 2013 and he's turned heel/face like 100 times by now. Who cares?


    John Cena's back and was basically handled a title just because. On the plus side it's been two years since Cena feuded with Del Rio over a title so that's a fresh match up in the WWE Universe.


    Do you know how old Kane is? He was a hired gun for the original Corporation.


    Again, the fucking Big Show? We want Bryan, we want Punk, we get the fucking Big Show. Until he fully get John Cena, I assume.


    And is this Orton basically the same character he was in 2007? We're not doing that vicious Viper thing anymore?

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  32. Scream09_HartKillerOctober 28, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    I know Diana's book get's ripped, but I found it in a box of my old stuff recently and in re-reading it when I visit the toilet it doesn't sound that crazy. Well, it is that crazy, but it sounds like it's believable crazy.

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  33. Scream09_HartKillerOctober 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Big Show, we're supposed to give a shit about Big Show, while we patiently award full blown giving a shit about Cena.

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  34. The Wyatt family flopping is really what made me quit watching for the past two months. I was so excited when Bray debuted. I dig the characters and the promos but the wrestling just was not there. The other two Wyatt's beatdowns aren't even very good.

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  35. Well thanks to DVR I can watch raw in 45 minutes and thanks to the internet I won't ever have to pay for a ppv. I'm still going to watch because I like heel promos and good matches. However I bought 4 ppvs and two summerslam tickets this year and I definitely won't make that mistake again. Vince and hhh would tell me, "hey carny and rubes buddy, that's the way world works mark." And I'll say "maybe I'm a rube, but im a rube with a pocket full of cash who's only gonna steal your mediocre product I'm embarrassed to have anyone know I watch, so you are one shitty fucking carny."

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  36. Fuck them, they deserve to have their shows ripped off for free. The PPVs are occasionally worth picking up for $15 on DVD, but that's about it.

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  37. She showed some promise. Too bad Gail Kim burned all her bridges with the WWE because they could really benefit from a strong veteran working with the new diva's.

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  38. I seriously need to find a copy of that, or at least an e-book of it. I need some crazy entertainment in my life.

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  39. Nice review, the show was a lot of fun in person even if Bryan getting taken out by the Wyatt's robbed us of seeing him wrestle tonight.


    Summer Rae is not one of the women that gets raves in NXT, she's pretty bad, Paige, Emma and Bailey are the three that are good wrestlers in NXT, but Summer Rae had the look to be Fandango's dancer and got brought up first.


    I've always thought Swagger was good in the ring, but directionless, and teaming him with Cesaro has been very good for his career. And even if some aren't happy about Swagger getting a push, I think the whole board is happy Cesaro might be getting one.


    I do look forward to Wyatt's vs Punk/Bryan, it will be there make or break though because if you can't have a good match with the top two workers in the company, you can't have a good match period.


    The energy was great in the arena, very proud of our cities crowd tonight, although we were definitely burned out towards the end of the show, and Nattie/Summer Rae just killed all the crowd momentum that had been going throughout the night.

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  40. You know what, fuck buying the DVDs. I'll burn that shit from a torrent. I'm a single, childless male with a full time job. I have disposable income to fucking burn and I would literally burn it before I'll spend another dollar on this dog shit. Hey hhh can't wait for your big comeback match. Get out their and bump and bleed for me for free circus animal. Whose the mark now? Not this guy who'll be watching for free

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  41. They have one as a trainer, I'm sure she wouldn't balk about actually getting a chance in the WWE (Sara del Rey).

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  42. Oh and this was my view of the night:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXsxYhzIEAA7T4X.jpg:large

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  43. If Hogan/Savage were the MegaPowers, then what will the inevitable Punk/Bryan alliance be called?

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  44. The UnderCarders?

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  45. Personally I would recommend spending this money on lines of coke to do off strippers while watching his ugly over the hill ass bleed for you for free, but burning shit is cool too.

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  46. The Best in the World of course

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  47. With the size of the Performance Center, Del Ray couldnt do both training and wrestle on the main roster

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  48. I should donate it to the fucking parents television counsel. Either way I just want to say "Hey hhh go ahead and work yourself to the bone for a company that I can steal everything from. ENTERTAIN ME FOR FREE YOU FUCKING STUNT BOY. ENTERTAIN ME FOR FREE

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  49. Two B-Pluses With Some Attitude

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  50. I wish they'd just strip it down to Wyatt as the manager and Luke as the wrestler. Team them up for matches if need be, but Luke can effing GO in the ring if allowed to cut loose.

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  51. GO BLADE AND FALL OFF LADDERS THROUGH TABLES WHILE I HALF WAY PAY ATTENTION IN ONE TAB AND SNARK ON YOUR SHIT PRODUCT I WOULD NEVER ADMIT TO WATCHING IRL ON THE B.O.D.

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  52. Wyatt is a good talent, hes just not able to show it because of his gimmick. From what I've heard, hes got deceptive cardio and is a solid brawler. His associates are nothing, but Bray isn't the slug you think he is.

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  53. Don't forget the part where Stone Cold Steve Austin did the pre-show panel at the PPV the night before, and had to break character and put everyone over like he was a real broadcaster.

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  54. So....


    Orton/Show for the WWE Title.....ummm, okay.


    Why would Tamina be the end game for the AJ Title reign? I'm not sure what Tamina has ever shown that she's going to be anything. Much like the Bellas, but of course we still have a bunch of them, so what do I know?


    They've moving Punk and Bryan onto THE WYATTS??? .....fuck my balls, I'd never even considered that, namely because where in the blue fuck did it come from?


    I think sticking having John Cena lead the World Heavyweight Title picture for a while is actually the best use you're gonna find for him now. Let him work with some of the talent that needs to get established for a while, hate him all you want but Cena has a long history of helping make people when the WWE lets him.

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  55. Bray Wyatt said the 'devil' made him do it? It's hhh behind it.

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  56. Pfft. Austin would still be down in Smokey Mountain learning how to work WWF-style.

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  57. Are...are you seriously equating Dolph Ziggler with Austin?

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  58. Can you take a correspondence course in English on one of those tabs?


    Seriously, learn how to fucking write.

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  59. Tamina is awful. I think we're getting a HTM moment with Paige.

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  60. Big Dick McGillicuttyOctober 29, 2013 at 2:38 AM

    Not my idea, but Goat 2 Sleep?

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  61. You saw the 1996 part, right? Until he won KOTR he was more of a nobody than Ziggler is now.

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  62. Big Dick McGillicuttyOctober 29, 2013 at 2:43 AM

    ...What kind of a name is Big Show, anyway?

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  63. Are we sure they're doing a Bryan/Punk vs. Wyatts program, or is the attack on Bryan meant to put him on the shelf for a while? If Bryan is gone for a month or two...
    1. He's out of the way for Cena to reclaim his spot as the top babyface.
    2. He's not there to distract from the Orton-Show feud, because why wouldn't Bryan dominate it with asking for the title shot he was screwed out of?
    3. If they're building to Bryan-HBK at Royal Rumble, this puts Bryan on part-timer status along with HBK.
    4. If they're not building to Bryan-HBK, Bryan is out until making a triumphant return at Royal Rumble and winning it (maybe he eliminates one/some of the Wyatts to blow off the feud that wasn't).
    4. He and Brie can get married. Like, in real life.

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  64. No one else will get over in the Divas division until it's booked with more than a passing thought. Attention to detail. Tonight, for example, Brie Bella was visibly upset after Bryan gets attacked, but why wasn't Nikki Bella also upset? Not only had her future brother-in-law just been attacked, her man got his already-injured arm destroyed earlier in the show. (Or have they not acknowledged Cena/Nikki beyond Total Divas yet?)

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  65. Wow. This show pissed Barry Horowitz the fuck OFF.

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  66. Well, i think they would be doing a Bryan/Punk vs Wyatt's programme, to get them back as friends. I think if they are doing HHH/Bryan or Bryan/Shawn, they need him out the way for a little bit to build it for a bigger PPV. Having the Wyatt's doing the Authority's dirty work helps with that.

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  67. TBS-Totally LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!

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  68. Does that make Heyman Sheriff Lobo?

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  69. A hell of a concept #LatteLatteBaby

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  70. HIT THE MUSIC!-Ravishing Rick Rude

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  71. Kane basically kneeling and swearing fealty to the Authority made me sad. When Kane joined the Corporation it was only because they had him committed and basically forced him to join or he would go to an insane asylum. I know this is supposed to be a more cerebal Kane, but he's still supposed to be a force of nature, that, while not nigh-unstoppable anymore, is still very strong.

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  72. Lets not forget the last we saw Kane the Wyatt's were dragging him off somewhere. Now he comes back and its forgotten. And he unmasks again. To Stephanie. Who holds his mask/hair up. Because we have no idea.

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  73. As Daniel Bryan gets beat down in the ring by The Wyatt Family, a tearful Brie Bella runs to the back, and tugs CM Punk towards the ring.


    Punk tugs back, and takes her to his bus.


    The next day, the wedding is called off, and AJ has an emo rant on Twitter.

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  74. This is... quite true.


    Ringmaster Steve Austin was a flop, and early Stone Cold was another semi-generic heel. But when he exploded... he EXPLODED.


    Who else has done that recently... I wonder...

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  75. There was a glimmer of that Orton during the Miz beatdown... which was quickly squelched.

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  76. How long did it take to go from Nexus' beginning attack to SummerSlam this year?

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  77. So... Green Bay/Chicago next week on MNF.


    Is a 2.5 (or lower) in the betting pool?

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  78. I'm still sort of bummed that they didn't let us have that match. At the time, I really thought, "Hey look. Oh that's sweet. Nash is here to put over a younger guy."

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  79. It's makes sense if the Wyatt's are working with The authority.

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  80. That 12 minute segment with HBK dide more for Bryan then working 3 ppv cycles with HHH. The king of kings folks, its time to play the game, 1-2 is this on...

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  81. Love your reviews but..."This may be Bryan's Stone Cold moment"


    ??? Pinning HBK for the WWF title at the biggest WrestleMania in a decade >>> making HBK tap at the end of an interview segment halfway through a show no one watched.


    I would love to know why the WWE is running HHH/Big Show as its top feud in 2013. Shit didn't draw in 1999.

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  82. Oh no I'm being flllllllaaaaaaaammmmmmeeeeeedddddd by some jizz stain, what will I ever do? (Oh yeah ignore your worthless posts like everybody else)

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  83. Yeah, I overreacted. Although this may be as big as when he stunned Vince in MSG.

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  84. The Wyatts are way better in a 'jumping main eventers and kicking the shit out of them' role than The Shield is. Let The Shield stick to having long matches and winning by chicanery while The Wyatts don't give a fuck about losing matches as long as somebody gets the shit kicked out of them.

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  85. I hate this product! But not enough to stop consuming it, just enough to stop paying for it!
    America, ladies and gentlemen.

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  86. You may need to join a couple more weed stores.

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  87. The people who sell ad time? Which is still part of the WWE financial structure, IIRC...


    No, the sky isn't falling. And until there's a real competitor, it won't fall anytime soon. But it's still fun to see what they call "must see" being more like "Do not want to see. EVER."

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  88. Well dougie I enjoy bits and pieces. The adr promo/cena vs Sandow match/the shield/most tag team shit.

    So why deny myself the whole thing when its really just 1 thing I hate. Back in 2003 I didn't have DVR and at least didn't know about streaming so I just tapped out. Now I can just ffwd through shit. The time commitment is minimal.

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  89. Are you one of the people that sells ad time? Because I'm not.
    And Raw continues to get a higher rating than 95% of what is on cable tv.
    And I am very amused that what you call "Do not want to see. EVER." is something that you continue to watch.

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  90. Um... Except I didn't watch. Hell, I didn't even post in the LIVE thread this week, except for a couple quickies about 30 minutes before it went on air.


    Then I played FF14.

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  91. Yet you still post in the thread. Disparaging a product you haven't even watched.
    Maybe you should go post negative comments about plumbers in other countries?

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  92. Nah, plumbing just isn't interesting. Have a good day.

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  93. So, help me out if I missed something...how was Sandow supposed to get over as Mr. Money in the Bank? I don't watch all the time, but every time I did, he was putting someone else over. I'm not sure how they expect guys to get over when they are treated as jobbers on a regular basis.

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  94. Yet you say this isn't interesting also.
    I do enjoy that 'Have a good day.' is the new 'I can't defend my ludicrous position, so I'm going to slink out the bank and act like I'm doing it by choice.' Top marks.

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  95. The plan was never for him to cash in Money in the Bank. He was supposed to lose it to Cody Rhodes at Summerslam. Obviously, they came up with a better story for Rhodes instead!

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  96. Worst_in_the_WorldOctober 29, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    Not really anything new to add, just count me in as someone who is frankly amazed at what a shitshow this has turned into. Bryan being called a "B+" player whose too small and too ugly and "can't win the big one", and then...he doesn't win teh big one. FOUR MONTHS IN A ROW.


    Bryan and Orton both somehow being way less over than they were 4 months ago.


    Big Show vs Orton and Big Show vs HHH as the main event feuds in 2013.


    And of course, John Cena back as the champ and lead babyface, and also burying Damien Sandow in doing so. Amazing. Just fucking amazing.


    As someone with disposable income who has happily spent it on WWE in the past (recently Mania, Raw after MITB, and around 4-6 PPVs a year including HITC this past Sunday), I'd just like to speak to the void and say there's not a goddamn way WWE gets a penny of my money for a long time, if ever again. Hello next day torrent of Wrestlemania!!

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  97. Worst_in_the_WorldOctober 29, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Something else that came to mind: how much of a pussy does Bryan look like in comparison to what Cena has done the last two days? Cena was hyped as having an insane injury which he came back from wayyy too early, and still OVERCAME THE ODDS to not only beat Del Rio but then become the first person ever to retain against a surprise MITB cash-in.
    Meanwhile, Bryan spends the last few months getting beat instantly by anyone's finisher. Pedigree at Summerslam? Instant death. Big Show punch at Battleground? Out cold. Superkick from a scraggly, retiree who had spent the last two years crying over Cell matches? Hurt so bad he needs to be helped out of the arena.

    Fuck, in this entire 3-month feud did Bryan even get the kick out of an RKO spot? Nope! This really was an A+ job of defining down a wrestler.

    My prediction when the post-mortem of all this happens a year from now, and we go through this whole storyline with Bryan never getting the belt or a revenge win on HHH, the backstage line from HHH will be that "Bryan ended up cooling off too much for him to be at the level we needed him to be at." Which, in reality, will probably be true. I don't see this upcoming feud against the Wyatts being what gets Bryan to any "next level." If anything, I'm betting this leads to a Bryan vs Kane match at Mania, which is comfortably the level Bryan should be at this point.

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  98. I actually think that the WHC and Smackdown are a good fit for Cena. Let's see if Cena can actually carry a whole show by himself. Give him the comedy matches ala Johnny Ace, and give him the part timers, and make Smackdown the Cena show.


    Will ratings go up? If so, great! Good for the WWE. Will ratings not change at all? We've learned something about Cena's TV drawing power.

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  99. Which is fine except that I haven't yet seen it from him. If he is a solid brawler, why isn't he having any solid brawls?

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  100. Kane wants to join forces with the most twisted people he knows...The McMahons.

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  101. Cena should at least be rocking a huge J.J. Watt style elbow pad to sell the injury.

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  102. Bryan vs Kane at mania would be depressing, especially since Bryan has already gone over him a few times, which could mean he's jobbing to him too...

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  103. Couldn't agree more but its kind of depressing to see one the more optimistic posters here toss in the towel with the rest of us. HHH ladies and gentlemen...HHH

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  104. If you're a long term wresting fan who can't stomach watching the current product why wouldn't you-still follow it online?

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  105. I'm convinced that Bryan is such an incredible pro-wrestling performer that he will stay over through anything north of a Pig Pen match. He's the real deal and knows how to do every aspect of the artform.

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  106. I wouldn't be surprised if she was making a lot more money running the divas training in Orlando than she would working on TV.

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  107. Great, now I have Ravishing Rick Rude's WWF music stuck in my head.

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  108. And why! Big Show has really Never been over as a top card guy. Plus he never went away so it's had to get him over as a nostalgia act. He's never been great in the ring and Big Show/Orton or Big Show/HHH was a championship match done on FREE TV in like 1999.


    It's maddening.

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  109. Like I said, he hasn't been able to show it yet cause of his gimmick.

    Look, put 80s Hulk Hogan in Japan and he'll work a different style cause he can clothesline and punch the shit out of people and have no one complain. Put Kane in a non-supernatural gimmick against a worker that can carefully play to his strengths and he'll be seen as a quality hoss. Tell Ryback to hit people as hard as he can and encourage him to try more explosive offense and people will regard him as a good big man. Bray's gimmick give shim some in=ring limitations, as opposed to just being a hard-hitter. Its even the case for workers like The Rock or Undertaker, who would have a vastly different moveset if they had a different persona.

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  110. Austin had ECW and WCW. Ziggler had the Spirit Squad and "Hi".


    Ziggler is an awful babyface and a worse talker. He's a great bumper and a B level worker with a great look and some charisma. He's the next Barry Windham.

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  111. Although it's a Packers game, which always tend to get more viewers, the Bears aren't in their league of talent, so I don't think Raw's gonna be that much lower than normal

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